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PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 9:56pm On Mar 27, 2011
@Am Alone, this should give the idea about my style and taste. All bought in UK.

PoliticsRe: A Revolution In The Making Buhari Bakare (Tears Of Joy) by brabus(m): 8:47pm On Mar 27, 2011
Some politician have made living with their mouths. Would a professional communicator carry any weight with you?
Buhari said he will probe past govt and people are rejoicing. Na today! We need someone who will deliver like Fashola not minding what happened, how bad, who caused it, when, where, which, etc. We need someone who can justify another 4 year term, not someone who will use the first 4 years to trail enemies.

Do this guys understand what elder statesman meant? Buhari, IBB, OBJ, Saraki, Ekwueme, etc

[size=14pt]I'm expecting comments from BB freaks![/size] lipsrsealed
PoliticsRe: A Revolution In The Making Buhari Bakare (Tears Of Joy) by brabus(m): 8:22pm On Mar 27, 2011
solajacobs:
Goodluck for me

PoliticsRe: A Revolution In The Making Buhari Bakare (Tears Of Joy) by brabus(m): 7:51pm On Mar 27, 2011
Muhammadu Buhari is about [size=16pt]69 years[/size] now (max constitutional presidential age is 70). So, if voted, we will likely change the constitution to become another Gadaffi in Nigeria. After all, if his former backward military rule could not be enough for him, would 4 years civilian rules be enough? I don't think so.



Buhari is a[b] man of integrity who does not know how to retain loyalty[/b]. Gen. Buhari has mass appeal, no doubt. But at 70 years of age, he ought to know that this is the time to quit and give guidance to the younger ones while he is still strong. He has paid his dues having been governor in 1975, petroleum minister in 1976 and Head of State in 1984 - 85, among other positions. In terms of integrity, capacity and competence, he now has some worthy successors. If really he has the interest of the people at heart, he should sacrifice his personal ambition and give total support to the younger generation. Posterity will never forgive him if he destroys the golden opportunity to push out the PDP just because of his stubborn, inordinate ambition to be president again, unless of course he has other motives.

I am very reluctant to vote for another leader who may not survive a full four-year term when there are young, vibrant and energetic youths out there.

HOW OLD IS TOO OLD?

65+ is TOO OLD! MUCH TOO OLD! This would make Buhari's VP (inexperienced in politics and governance) candidate all the more important, as he would probably have to finish out Buhari's term after he kicks the bucket!! [size=14pt]No matter how hard Buhari tries, he will never be able to relate[/size] to our normal, 7-7, working-class Nigerians!!!

Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau of the ANPP is a nice person and very articulate but needs a lot of time to establish the necessary network and sufficient outreach for the high office of president. His party's fortune has been on the decline since 1999. Apart from the national youth service, he has worked only in Kano. [/b]Moreover, we have seen how all governors have turned out to be very provincial at the national level. The late Mallam Umaru was surrounded by mainly Katsina people and Jonathan is surrounded by mostly his Ijaw kinsmen. Even if one does not like Obasanjo, one must give him credit of being able to work with people from everywhere (locally and internationally).


By far [b]the best team
today is the Ribadu/Adeola ticket of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN). They are the youngest, most energetic, most vibrant, very dynamic, very experienced and very exposed. Mallam Nuhu Ribadu, a lawyer, has had a distinguished career in public service for a quarter of a century in fighting crimes, insecurity as well as corruption. At the international level, he has served on the Anti-Corruption Board of the AU, was a fellow at Oxford, UK, and has served at the Centre for Global Development in US. Adeola is a highly rated economist, has had a distinguished career in the private sector as well as in banking and has been involved in the formulation of national development policies for decades. At the international level, he is on the board of the Blair Commission for Africa, amongst others. Thus, [size=14pt]neither of them is a local champion[/size], both of them having worked mainly at national and international levels. Their party, the ACN, is the second strongest after the ruling PDP: in the South-West it is virtually the only party; in the South-South and South-East, it controls the critical Edo State and is set to capture many more states in these zones. In the Northern zones, it is now the party to beat with strong appeal among youth, women and the elite who see Ribadu, the only presidential candidate of Northern extraction with substantial following in the South, as the most viable option for that region. In short, it is the fastest-growing party in Nigeria today. Being the main opposition party, this is the most viable platform with the capacity to save Nigeria from PDP misrule, mismanagement and further disaster. If the difference is clear, then, indeed, the choice is clear.
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God Save Nigeria. Blame yourself if we get it wrong again![/size]

PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 4:49pm On Mar 27, 2011
spyder880:
@ Am Alone, I love the way you spend this money, Chai! If you gat it, flaunt it. You obviously love quality and have the means to obtain it. Well done, just look for the best and enjoy the purchase, price is of no essence, you peace of mind, contentment and satisfaction in your fittings should take priority.
However, people like me will think twice before buying Twyford for 80k, its a matter of choice sha. There are toilet seats that sell for N4500 and people still shait with it for the whole life cycle of the house. On a funny note, if poo poo hold you baaaad, and you rush into a public toilet, do you start inspecting the labels or do your business and walk out?
But its all good, happy usage.
olubuffett:
Spyyder
I beg buy good quality for your  bathroom,  a bathroom should worth spending time in
All so get a good. Tiler and plumer to do a great job, no just do poo and run out because u no fit stand the place.
Am Alone, Chop Your Life! Nuffin do you, I don't have a problem with it! I do think if you are rich enough to buy Twyford of N80kfor your house, you also need to do stuffs for the community you live! In my own case, I grade the road, did the drainage, donate 5 concrete pole and sink well for the community. N80k WC would not matter if the road to your house is an eye sore or your next door neighbour dey throw shot put.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 9:09am On Mar 21, 2011
NemekGee:
@Brabus, Thanks for you response. The land is on the Wabash hotel side of sangotedo. Yes, Sangotedo is really coming up and that is why i want to begin to put up a structure as soon as possible. The land is not exactly close to the main road. You would have to drive into the area  but it is not deep inside either.
My advice, dont do something too serious on that side (coastal shoreline) as govt may in not too distant future develop interest in that area. It may not happen in the next 15 - 25 years but it will surely come. The other side is more OK but as you said you are too deep inside, a bungalow or twin bungalow would make sense.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 12:13am On Mar 21, 2011
NemekGee:
@Am Alone, Spyder and brabus, You guys are doing a great job on this thread and this has been one very helpful thread for prospective home owners.
Meanwhile, i am trying to make a decision on what to build on my land in sangotedo area of lagos. The problem, i am facing here is that i do not know the type of structure to put up there bearing in mind that i am not sure that i would like to live there for a long time and i don't believe in the income that comes from home rentals because i think it is quite little (in sangotedo) compared to the amount of money invested in putting up the structure.

what factors did you guys consider before deciding if you want to build a bungalow dupex or bungalow with a pent house as in brabus case or was it just a case of individual taste and financial strength at the time of embarking on the project?

i wont like a situation whereby i will build a house and dislike it after a short time so i am trying to be sure that i make the right decision while also considering my present financial strenght.
@NemekGee, thanks for the lovely comment. Happy to inform you that I just completed renovation/facelift for a residential building converted to office apartment in d same Sangotedo. To your question, I will consider the following in Sangotedo:
1. My Budget
2. Distance of the site to the express road (if close to the main road, I'll do a duplex as it can be converted for commercial use)
3. Accesibility

You will agree with me that Sangotedo is coming up. In such an area, a bungalow with penthouse will not make any sense. Its either a small bungalow, storey building, multi-dwelling unit or 2 flat bungalow that can be raised or converted in nearest future.

Which side of Sangotedo are you? The Wabash Hotel side (going to Epe) or The Safeway side (coming to Lekki).
PoliticsRe: Petrol Scarcity Hits Lagos And Abuja by brabus(m): 3:20pm On Mar 20, 2011
There will always be one thing to blame the scarcity on,
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 12:59pm On Mar 20, 2011
^^^In the design above

1. Green line shows the waste pipes (toilet, drain pipe, kitchen waste etc) are all on one side of the building thus reducing plumbing cost and preventing blockage as they are all close to the septic tank.

2. The dimensions
   main sitting room is 24ft by 24ft
   waiting area is 12ft by 12ft (where we are going to introduce glass block partition)
   Kitchen is 12ft by 12ft
   Porch is 8ft by 24ft (any guest who is not meant to enter the house ends up here)
   Store is 7ft by 8ft
   Dining area is 16ft by 12ft
   Master bed & bath is 26ft by 16ft
   Bedroom 2 & 3 is  12ft by 12ft
   Bedroom 2 bath & dresser is 5ft by 12ft

Unfortunately, the finalized draft copy of the first floor showing the loft is not loading. I'll try get a new copy from my dad who made the drawing. I designed the building.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 9:56am On Mar 20, 2011
^^^ Am Alone, this is beautiful.

check out mine below (this is d finalized draft copy). I dont have the digital copy of the main plan.

PoliticsRe: Why I Didn’t Attend Nn24 Presidential Debate ––jonathan by brabus(m): 9:41am On Mar 19, 2011
And regrets will forever be your portion.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 11:43pm On Mar 18, 2011
@Gobi38,

Please find below the breakdown for my roofing.

Woods

2x6 60 pcs @ N800 = N48,000
2x4 400 pcs @ N500 = N200,000
2x3 300 pcs @ N300 = N90,000
Facing board 40 pcs @ 1500 = N60,000

Wall Belt 6 dozens @ N2500 = N15,000
4 inches 3 bags @ N5000 = N15,000
3 Inches 2 bags @ N4500 = N9,000
2 Inches 7 Kilo N1000 per kilo = N7,000
Others (wey no get record) = N25,000

Step Tiles Aluminium
Long Span 4.5 gauge step tiles N1330 per sq meter (I paid N600,000 including transportation)
Labour (woodwork/aluminium) = N70,000 but I'm planning to send additional N35,000 to the carpenters for nogging.
PoliticsRe: Presidential Debate on NN24 by brabus(m): 9:09pm On Mar 18, 2011
@ALL, Lets form an Alliance to vote in Buhari. The change we need is he
PoliticsRe: Presidential Debate on NN24 by brabus(m): 8:43pm On Mar 18, 2011
For me,
We need Buhari as President
Let him choose Shekarau, Ribadu and others as his Service Chiefs

What needs to hppen is the guys should form Alliance, choose Burahi against "Luckmaster"

Tonight Ribadu is the best. See the answer on zoning
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 6:35pm On Mar 18, 2011
A visit to this site can tell you of the amazing designs and finishes happening here in Lagos. You can see the construction from foundation to finishing stage. http://thehavenhomes.com/yes-we-built-them.htm

@Am Alone, N150k is good if the man know his onions. I paid my carpenter N70k because he's my close relative. The least quote I got was N180k from other carpenters. I used step tiles aluminium although the initial plan was to use Crete Tiles.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 8:38pm On Mar 17, 2011
@Am Alone, You are 2 years on Nairaland today. How are you celebrating it?
N10m is not too much, not even for the high tastes you have. I know you will eventually do more than that, just keep the records and see for yourself.
I dey pray for you and all other people on this thread handling their projects. God will bless us and see us through.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 8:29pm On Mar 17, 2011
I will try show you the foundation of the house and mine. You can see the obvious difference. The same applies to my elder sister (a UK resident) who is building in Ibadan beng supervised by her friend and my dad. Clash of interest on the part of d supervisors? The went to lay tiles before plastering the walls.

You agree with me that yr building will near N10m.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 7:57pm On Mar 17, 2011
Am_Alone, wadup. Great pics here, I wish I could upload the one being built for my neighbour who currently resides in UK. Project was supervised by his sister who happened to be a woman leader in PDP Ogun state. They had to quickly plaster the deck to cover up cracks.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 7:18am On Mar 17, 2011
@Spyder880, abeg make you no boss me o. I'm your junior in all areas and respect is reciprocal.
spyder880:
emmm, emmmm, can I use a lifeline, I want to call a friend, or lets use 50-50, lol.
bros, am still calculating sha, lets see how it will be like.
As you've seen it, people are already talking N7m for your house. No be Lagos o or elsewhere cos in all you are doing, I've not seen a place where you mentioned settling omo-onile (touts), Foundation levy etc. For here, its a norm. Outside that, the area where I lived in Ajah, you must pay on each truck of sand to your site, a block is N200 and moulding option is not advisable. Am Alone will still pay roofing money which is the final payment when you are building in Lagos. Outside that, he will still need some N2 - N3m to do the finishes (fence, lighting, electricity, borehole, overhead tank, floor finishes, plastering, plumbing, landscaping, aluminium/burglary, furnitures, bath accessories etc), which means by the time he's ready to pack in, nearly N10m would have entered into the project.

This thread is good enough as an eye opener and a guide but its not to say that N7m will build your house. Make fight no come start o.
spyder880:
Boss, afraid catch me for this your standard of finishing, but what is life if a man cannot enjoy his hardwork, please carry us along so we learn more from you.
I'm building this masterpiece to showcase myself, I already have a 2 bedroom which am living right now. This house would pass for any of those N40 - N50m houses you see in Ikoyi, Osborne, VGC and I'll do it for less than N15m.
A friend asked me how much will finish my house, I said "I don't know but I know it will be nothing less than N13m"
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 12:00am On Mar 17, 2011
@DCGUY, Thanks. I will check them out. I saw some outdoor solar lights in Ikeja yesterday. It makes a lot of sense. Who needs PHCN anyway?

I noticed they have a shop in Ikota Shopping Complex.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 10:01pm On Mar 16, 2011
^^^Pls, lets do this off thread. Thanks
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 9:25pm On Mar 16, 2011
E no easy o! To build, dey chop and still dey play big boy for street. I'm feeling you too.
My finishing will gulp additional N5 - N7m.

1. Landscaping (Interlocking tiles, though I planned to do it myself since I have moulds that can produce 500 tiles at once)
2. Tiles (Granite/Marble finishes)
3. POP/Suspended Ceiling
4. Aluminium/Burglary (custom design)
5. Lightning (Chandelier for the loft, POP lights, Outdoor security lights, etc)
6. Furnitures (kitchen cabinet, wardrobes, doors etc)
7. Solar powered pumping machine
8. Architectural finishes (Quoin, Window surrounds, Stainless steel balustrade, stonewall, glassblock partitions etc)
9. 3-man a side football pitch/
10. and so on.

The house pass child play o. Its more than bricks and mortar!
Make we no distract attention, we can share ideas as per finishes off this thread.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 8:48pm On Mar 16, 2011
Am Alone:
@ Brabus
Please can you post us some pictures of your house
with after the roofing?? Since you said you have roofed
the house already!!!
Also, how much did it cost you for the roofing of your househuh
I'd love to, but I've been off site for some weeks now. All pic posted on the thread are old pic already on my system. I'm all out to make some cash for the finishing stage. I'll upload when I have the opportunity to do so.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 8:28pm On Mar 16, 2011
spyder880:
I was dodging that question because I dont know the answer, but, let me hazard a guess, anything between 3.5m to 4 m will complete my house to painting level. But we must stick around to find out the real figures.
No Comment! WAEC don release result. Is that yr final answer?
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 8:25pm On Mar 16, 2011
Am Alone, when is it happening on saturday? You no the way its done in yorubaland, its part of the building expense. Hope say na pounded yam and egusi. PM me o!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 11:16am On Mar 15, 2011
spyder880:
@ brabus, what are the effects of curing on German floors? It seems these guys have started laying blocks for me on the site. My engineer called me and told me they now have water and its safe to lay the blocks, infact they have laid up to 100 blocks before he started calling me. I intended to start this stage by Thursday but now it seems they have pushed things foward. The engineer convinced it could be done. I think they should go ahead since the German floor was made since Saturday last week. I will show us pictures later in the day.
No problem. I started laying block on mine the 3rd day but we wet the floor very well. It's always good when you wet the floor very well so that the concrete doesn't cake in some areas.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 12:30am On Mar 15, 2011
Am Alone:
@ Brabus
85k na for workmanship oo
Materials na 200k ooo
check out na!!! Na one of my neighbour introduce am to me
and i dey suspect them 2 ni!
At times, when I'm faced with situations like this, I pipe low. Relax a bit! Why do you need him now when you have even not roof the house? The stage you are entering now, you need to get your priorities right. Abi no bi so, Spyder?

You dont even need him until you have put doors
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 12:14am On Mar 15, 2011
spyder880:
You are so funny, I am a businessman, and I make the best decisions to enhance my profitability. The house I used zink on is a tenement house which I will pull down in 10 years max. I will use the land for a filling station later so its like a temporal structure.
It is not more expensive to do labour for aluminium roofing as against zink, all na labour work and many factors like height, size, space and convenience is what will determine their charges. Easy bros, with the way you are going, a smart builder will tear you to shreds with such misconcepions about materials.
Another point, spending too much cash does not ensure perfection, sometimes its a wrong signal wich they interprete to mean you are wasteful and should be sucked dry.
Gbam!

As you can see even on this thread. Your electrician wan take 85k do wiring of a bungalow! Is that one Lagos price? If he's not your brother, fire am! But if he's yr brother, call family meeting.

Spyder880, We go still have ME vs YOU on this thread! When I said my project has gulped a little over N4.5m to the stage shown in the pic, some people say na lie. But with the way you are going, I doubt, you will beat my cost. Remember the N4.5m includes main building, fence, extension and granite was used all through. Although, reading through your posts and your methods, I noticed I waste money in some areas. Nonetheless, I say thank you for this thread.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 11:59pm On Mar 14, 2011
Am Alone:
@ brabus
what do you think about this electrician charges?
For the electrical wiring we is asking for 85k(i no lagos things expensive and i need the perfect job)
but i mean the money too much
me dey think like 30 or 40 k o
any suggestions?
Haba, no go play dangerous game for that area o. The 85k no too much o so long the guy is using quality materials (Nigeria Wire). But if na me, try break the wiring into two (interior/exterior) and do the first part. See what was used and calculate what will be required for the other part.

For finishing stage, I no dey give money to anybody. I only pay for Labour and materials. I buy all the fittings and get the warranties myself; even get the receipts in my name. No 3rd, 4th or 5th parties.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 11:49pm On Mar 14, 2011
Am Alone, btw me and you. You are doing well but I have question for you. If you had to start all over again, will you still spend the same amount as you've expended on this project or less?
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 11:44pm On Mar 14, 2011
Spyderman, the bargain master. Ratio still enter block laying. I don learn anoda 1 today. Well noted. Thanks for remembering to water the german floor).

Am_Alone, if I see error. Trust me, I go talk. Your guys are doing a good job. I must commend them as well.

@All, this is a perfect thread for prospective home owners. It will serve as a guide for many. Many thanks to Spyder880, the thread owner for the wonderful opportunity.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by brabus(m): 11:23pm On Mar 14, 2011
Am Alone:
@ Brabus,  Tru talk
But you know construction varies from are to area
Here in lagos they Labour is 1,500 per day if they are setting blocks
Then bricklayers charge 2500 to 3000 per day and they set 80 to 100 blocks per day
This price is for lagos ooo!!!! I have used a total of say 4300 blocks!!!
if you do your calculation you can tell the difference. Please confirm from anyone that works in Lag!
Everything is been inflated!!! To my own calculations, I am doing great!!
Lagos price just dey different!  I remembered when I was in Ghana
There Bricklayer collects 1,500 per day work
while labour charge 1000 to 1200 per day work
now check out the difference,
But I still hear your talk sha!!!
But get am in mind say Lagos things high
Any body building in Lagos please i want to confirm that
Yes, you are right. Things are kinda expensive in Lagos. But I must tell you, my bricklayer is someone I picked from a friend in Ajah (I was formerly a resident in Ajah). He has his charges and I have my budget. Personally, I dont like daily job as they slow you down. I negotiate per level (incldg columns and beams) and try to see that I get a good bargain. Daily job is N3000 for bricklayer and N1,500 for Labour in Sagamu and I assume its d same everywhere because these guys get union. No difference at all.

All my reference sites are in Lagos (Ikoyi, VGC, Ajah, Eleko, VI). I would have loved to show you some of our new designs but I personally dont like showcasing people's project without their consent.

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