₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
Most Americans are not anti immigration, they only want to be able to vet those who are coming into their country just like any responsible person will
In your house currently do you open doors to EVERY one or do you want to reserve the right to vet the people that come in?

Will crime come in more when you have some checks or when you have none?

Well i see your point, it is the sense of security not actual security itself, because truth be told, you can't predetermine anybody's intentions until they act on it, and for the truly criminal, they'd only go through official borders if their disguises can withstand scrutiny or they'd smuggle themselves or their products through alternative routes as has always been the case.
If crime of certain forms is to be reduced e.g drug trafficking, then the demand for such drugs has to be reduced first by working towards making the US the country it should be with all its resources, the US lags behind on many development indices as compared to other developed nations and this is due to a popular notion that certain things considered fundamental rights in other countries are priviledges you can only acquire to certain extents your financial muscle can tolerate, i might be wrong, but i don't think there's that much of a drugs, crime and gun problem in Scandinavian countries as there are in the US

raumdeuter:
Most likely majority of Americans hate open borders but Hilary for some reason was trying to sneak it behind them which was why she gave the speech at a private event and denied it vehemently in public.

Borders serve as a form of security. When you have something you cherish you protect it. Do you practice open door policy to everyone in your house? If your house has your kids you love and possession you cherish do you practice open door policy?

Do you think Nigeria should also practice open border and open the borders for anyone and everyone willing to come in

is it the concept of border security or the reality of it that makes Americans hate open borders in your views? Historically, America was founded by and prospered on immigrants and immigration, when you practice closed borders as a concept, the reality is that you only succeed in stopping immigration not cross border crime, organized crime will always find a way through the paper wall called border security, it is as true in Nigeria as it is in America and many other countries except north Korea for obvious reasons, if you agree with my assertion, then all closed borders imply is in stopping immigration which has never been bad for the US economy.
On Nigeria, the belief we even have borders stopping human traffic is farcical at best, our borders exist only to milk revenues both legally and illegally from trans border commerce esp illegally so no, the concept of closed borders for Nigeria is deceitful so it is not worth pondering

Anduku:
If you want to know my stance on Nigerian politics, you go and read my posts on Nigerian politics threads and you could help us by naming those who you refer to as "shallow thinkers" who enjoy reading my commentary. I have never said you shouldn't be commenting on American politics, that's your own view so I am not painting myself as anything like you. I comment on American politics and I believe everyone has the right to do so if they wish to. All I was doing with those posts was pointing out the hypocrisy on your own part to be saying others have no right to do something while you are doing the exact same thing.

Blah blah blah state it here simple, I did, i didn't ask you to go research me, I'm as interested in you as you are in me you pander towards conservatism right? (I stand to be corrected though) how does that play out in your views concerning Nigerian politics? Those are the simple questions i am asking, let us know you're a conservative or whatever else through and through, abroad and at home where your charity begins, that is, if we are still holding on to the premise that we espouse opposing political ideologies

raumdeuter:
Maybe your answer might be found in how Hillary was scared to admit it in the open.

Let any Democrat just campaign on open borders and let us see the response

So i take it that Americans generally hate open borders?

Godsgal:
And this happens to be the same person that bragged about his achievements earlier. what else do u wish to achieve before u finally settle mr banger

Chai! see fyngal! I be Godsboy too oh! Make we relate i wan tell you sumtin

MufasaRebirth:
Bros gunners no go dey top 4 sef

Shey you go bet am

Bloord of simba!


I cast and bind you by DA bloord!

Martinez19:
In the first video I gave, she said "let's not do what does not works." what was that? "... closing our borders and pulling the gangplank." Her support for the open border policy was a common fact during her presidential campaign and for democrats to turn around and say she did not support the open border policy is outright denial or pathetic ignorance.

And pray tell me what is wrong with the open border policy? I'm interested in learning mind you but i won't accept any trump talking points

Anduku:
Funny that the person who made this comment is attacking me for being interested in American politics while living in Nigeria and he also lives in Nigeria like me. Can u see how hypocritical this liberals can be??

You try too hard to paint me a "you" a.k.a hypocrite! and pander to other shallow thinkers who enjoy your commentaries, i asked you, for your very open and known stance on american politics, where and what is your Nigerian equivalent? What does conservatism mean to you in the Nigerian context? Your response must be well defined as mine or you remain a blatant hypocrite! Or isn't charity supposed to begin from home anymore?

MufasaRebirth:
He pay me make Tottenham win the league sha


Liverpool ko, loserpool ni

The thundah wen go faya u and Tottenham ehn! dem still dey titrate am for Kinshasa quaters for Kampala zoo Mogadishu! For where my gunners dey? Oloun maaje!

Anduku:
Not comparing your motives with mine, just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy. It's there for all to see.
You don't take sides on politics per se but the personality involved is no less a person than the president of the US and I haven't seen you accuse him of not being a good father or a good husband or of not being a good English speaker or you know, any of the none politics issues. All your interventions here have been on hot button political issues in the US. From border security, to immigration/caravans, to spending bills and shutdown, all of them are relating to his political role as president of the US and not his own interpersonal relationships with others. Stop deceiving yourself with that "not on politics per se" angle because you have entered the fray on all the current hot political issues in the US at the moment.

Not hypocrisy dude just wrong forum, trust me i go full ballistic on his non policy issues on other fora but i try to abide by the spirit of this thread i.e the politics, or you would tire of me covfefe-ing around your praise singing of the orange trumpetskin!

budaatum:
I did not call you stupid, BraniacX. I said "How supporting Atiku, a known crook who wishes to sell, or rather, own the golden goose is not stupid, defies reason in my book!" And it was in response to you claiming support for Buhari is a "peculiar kind of stupid". Neither do I believe Buhari can do no wrong.

Atiku is part of the party that ruled when a huge theft of what Nigeria owned occurred in the guise of privatisation. People claim Buhari is no better, but I disagree. When PDP ruled, it just so happened that it was a period when Nigeria enjoyed a boom with our main commodity selling for prices we have never before seen. But where did all that money go? I saw it being spent on the streets of my own home town with people receiving money from politicians just for yelling rankadede. I'd take people to my farm to work all day and pay them above the odds only for them to return home at the end of the day to find some jobless idiot has more in his pocket just for going around with politicians! When Buhari came in that stopped, and I'm glad it did. A nation can't progress when jobless people earn more than those who work.

Now, people would claim Buhari too is corrupt. Personally, I don't believe it, nor have I any reason to. To start with, Nigerians are not stupid. There's no way he can be stealing all by himself without sharing with others, which if he was would be seen by it being spent on the streets but it isn't. But even if he were stealing, he is not stealing as much as was stolen under Atiku and co. The fact that jobless people are starving is evidence that he most likely isn't.

Atiku was specifically responsible for privatisation, which I don't think has served us well. A lot of what was privatised is now moribund since the assets of the privatised companies were just stripped and abandoned. So why would I wish NNPC, the goose that lays the golden egg, privatised by him of all people? Do I need to have two brains to know that even if privatisation were a good thing, he is not the best to be in charge of it? Privatisation may be a good thing in the future. But UK, a forerunner of privatise, are currently ruing the fact they privatised with a lot of privatised institutions not doing so well. And I feel they were more transparent in how they went about it than we would be. Sorry, but I just don't feel now is the right time for it, and even if we were to go ahead with it, I'd rather Atiku not be involved.

Regardless, all the above is simply my opinion. In time, the facts would out, and if it turns out my bubu has been corrupt all along, do expect me to come on here and accept I was wrong and call for his head. I know and expect that you, for one, would not let me off without me eating humble pie. And that is at it should be. Please do not go easy on me. Where I stand is laid out in many threads to condemn me with if I turn out to be the stupid one. And since I sai bubu quite a lot you must not skimp on the size of the humble pie you shove down my deserving throat.

Now, regarding Trump. Personally, my gut tells me not to trust him. Take his wall. 30billion will not be enough to build a wall between Mexico and America so I don't think its a good idea for starts. The wall between East and West Germany is indicative of the silliness of such ideas. People go on about how well he's run the economy when the truth is that America is only just reaping the fruits of Obama's policies. And the way Trump is going, I expect that economic progress to stop. He goes on about climate change being false in an era when the evidence says otherwise. He's given tax cuts to the wealthy. He wants to scrap Obamacare that has favoured millions who beforehand had no care, and so on. We're already seeing the effect of his policies in companies like Apple, and farmers are moaning that there's no market for their soyabeans. The slump in sales blamed on tariffs by some will result in job losses in America and probably a recession, in my opinion.

But the facts, or rather, my facts, hardly matter, or at least they are countered by facts as seen by the other side. For I'm sure you have counter facts to whatever I have to say, which I'm certain you will claim are more valid than mine. And that's the beauty of democracy. On election day, we all go to vote, and the person who gets the most votes becomes President in Nigeria as well as in America. And calling each other stupid will have nothing whatsoever to do with it. And if either of us has a brain in our heads, we'd surely find out.

My apologies then if i jumped the gun and implied you were stupid, point is i don't want atiku either, but he's the best shot at unseating buhari, his multiple cross carpeting which is unique to Nigerian politics indicates that his primary loyalty is to himself! Any politician who cross carpets even once without being practically forced out of the party like shehu sanni has lost my trust for life, the two major political parties in Nigeria are a single breed and i am not naive to believe otherwise, same politician different flag and they'd always blame the previous party for all the ills they helped execute! I honestly don't believe atiku is incorrupt either, a former public officer acquiring so much wealth can only be through manipulation of statecraft to suit his ends, but it all ends there====> "belief" I believe this in my heart of hearts but i can't prove it and for now atiku for me serves the purpose of unseating buhari so he has my total support!
Now to buhari, i never supported this man, but he rode into power on a wave of goodwill of the alleged majority, he had it within his power to make a massive difference with little to no opposition, my grouse with buhari asides my hate is first and foremost his hypocrisy that stinks to the high heavens pertaining to corruption, yes corruption is far far worse under buhari and the APC but they came into power wielding the sword of propaganda and they have been sharpening that sword and hacking with it ever since, selling the narrative that corruption is an exclusively PDP thing, on your experience concerning jobless people making more money under the previous government, that isn't true from my own experience, down here in the south, only having an official government portfolio no matter how ridiculous would guarantee that because politicians here dont go around sharing money except during campaigns, anybody who wants to live of the cash harnessed from a "rankadede" would starve in either regimes but people could live better back then because they had jobs, what went wrong is the dearth of the private sector and the middle class and this brings me to the second and worst reason why i absolutely hate buhari, buhari killed our economy and crippled the middle class, you might want to defend buhari citing price of oil, foreign debt and so on, but obasonjo came into power in 1999 with the price of oil at around $10/barrel, massive foreign debt, massive corruption and looting of our wealth by the previous military administration(s), incessant crisis in our oil producing sector with the proliferation of many Niger delta militant groups so much so that under him Nigeria was hardly ever able to meet its OPEC quota, massive opposition and multiple attempted impeachments in the national assembly, but obasonjo persevered and improved our economy, negotiated debt reduction, saw to the rise of the middle class and many more, so why should that excuse suffice for buhari? The difference between an obasonjo and a buhari is simple, buhari might be literate but he is poorly educated and as such makes terrible decisions based on his poor understanding, buhari goes around the globe demarketing Nigeria and Nigerians, he wants to create a global image of himself and just himself alone to be the only incorruptible Nigerian a.k.a lone ranger and if he throws the entirety of Nigeria under the bus to achieve that so be it! What is presidential in that attitude? Every single word a president utters has ramifications that can't be easily predicted and this he has in common with trump, he started his admin talking about bringing parity to the exchange rate one of his many superfluous promises, he talked about using the organs of state to achieve that in a supposed free market with many foreign investors, that kind of language from a new president of a new party whose political/economic agenda was vague to start with forced the hands of many a foreign investor who withdrew their dollars from our economy, instituting a massive capital flight and folding up of these companies with resultant folding up of the Nigerian companies they did business with in a domino effect with the eventual loss of millions of jobs from the collapsed companies all in the private sector which is supposed to drive an economy forward and that is the source of our recession, couple that with the massive spike in the exchange rate caused by the shortage of dollars due to foreign capital flight and the resultant inflation in the cost of imported goods on which we are heavily reliant and you get the bleak picture, these two things have little to do with corruption and oil price, these are two policy/leadership failures that can be placed directly on the doorsteps of the president and no one else! No one else can take the fall for these no matter the narrative his propagandists spin, we in the supposed middle class are feeling the bite, i have never worked for government or benefitted from government, I don't earn that sumptuous government monthly salary, I have always been in the private sector and strived to make my ends meet, but since buhari's second recession, that has gotten harder and harder even with juggling extra jobs, the money we earn now no longer has same spending power as it used to and our cumulative expenses and bills have increased so why should i be Happy?
I recently chatted with a colleague of mine working in Dubai who sat for a promotion exam along side about 20 other candidates including from other African countries like Kenya and Uganda, they all got promoted except him and the other Nigerian! They made a query to management demanding to know if it could even be possible they failed the exam, HR called them aside and pleaded with them that they did pass the exams but management was uncomfortable with putting Nigerians in positions of authority because of their corruption "as stated repeatedly by their president!" so do you get it? My friend lost his promotion and better pay directly because of your president and no one else! And this is just one example and my friend is understandably furious! He hasn't shown interest in Nigerian politics for a while but he does now and he is massively anti-buhari for obvious reasons!
I can go on and on about the corrosion and politicization of institutions and instruments of state, the massive corruption cases cronies of buhari are involved in but is being swept under the carpet and/or ignored but i don't want to bore you further, your decision is made as is mine and we will all suffer the consequences of it so may GOD help us all, I wish i had the alternative of farming many middle class individuals have up north which you apparently do, I hear it is profitable and i for one would welcome the extra income, I don't depend on government and don't want their largesse, but i would like my hard work to suffice for me and be able to save too like i used to before buhari's calamity

Limitednow:
Source: https://politicstimesng.com/shehu-sani-why-should-re-elected-kaduna-central-senator/

I wish i could vote for this guy

glosplendid:
Happy new year nairalanders,,just recently graduated and looking for a job instead of staying home doing nothing,,,my location is Abuja,,please any decent job with a good pay is okay by me,,course:political science and international relations ..contact:glosplendid@gmail.com

madam your greatest selling point on your CV is your profile pic! If i get job opening, I for personally employ you myself! Chai! see my employee oh! Dem don thief you go! Chai!

Abbeybailey:
At least you guys are better than us. The only thing that makes me happy is getting rid of Mourhino. Never liked him and i am glad he's gone.

jesst look @ them! yinmu

budaatum:
That's my opinion, and I can be talking through my ass. It does not mean it must be everyone else's opinion, or everyone who disagrees we me hasn't got an ass. I think Atiku is an ass too and wonder if he and Trump are ass related!

nah dude! Bubu is more trumplike (except in tweeting) too many gaffes, always bulk passing and blaming someone else, always trying to portray themselves as awesome and pseudo messiahs come to save the day, I can go on and on but let me stop here, my opinions though

Martinez19:
Lol. What is wrong with you people? People have the right and freedom to follow anything they want. Will you also worry about how Nigerians are following English soccer teams rather than Nigerian soccer teams? Our interest and politics we choose to follow is our call. Stop worrying over it and bring your facts to the table or shut up.

Cc. Auduku

I thought i had replied you, well, poor network issues...

Here's yours!

I call false equivalency on your football team analogy reason being supporting a football team is optional, your nationality on the other hand, hmm not so much!
But using your analogy, I support arsenal FC(guilty as sin so you got me ) but i troll Manchester united, city, chealshit threads whenever they loose (the hate is strong in this one! ) but i am invested totally and emotionally only in my darling arsenal! My heart never strays away from home and the Topsy turvy fortunes of my club! I even use arsenal in pro soccer for better or worse so You won't for example, see me selecting a fantasy or winning eleven for those clubs i mentioned because i have no interest in their victories except when it serves my purpose!
Having said that, if any of these clubs fields a Nigerian player, (even the disgusting spurds!) I rout fervently and exclusively for that player, not the club but the player, except of course when they play against us so you see, my loyalties are well defined, can you say same for your friend?

Anduku:
On the contrary, I know who they are and I don't support what they stand for. I support Trump and that's it. How about the guy that shot rep Steve calise? How about the lunatic that attacked Sen. Paul Rand? Were they not all liberals supporting and attending liberal politicians rallies. I guess we should then lump all liberals in with them and say that's what all liberals stand for

And what was Trump's stand on those attacks? He called them out didn't he? As any good president should! Now compare that to his response on other attacks, his interpretation of the Charlottesville riots, his attack on Collins kaerpenick, his response to every other black person with a platform calling out his BS and bias, his belated response when a black unarmed man took down a white mass shooter, his silence on every other headline on police's all too common brutality and use of deadly force against unarmed black people! This for a tweetsy very opinionated president! Do you get the picture now?

Anduku:
Lol, And you taking sides in a debate about an American border wall is what? Delving shallower

yes i do take sides, just not on the politics per se, more on the personality involved! Always goes back to my motives which remain constant, yours however is up to the jury

I see you're trying too hard to compare my motives to yours, try harder, i may be a hypocrite on many things, just not this one

Anduku:
This you delving shallower and shallower right? Talking about border walls costs and ineffectiveness, slats, Trump's f-35's and talking about DACA and Democrats taking credit of a big trade off. I can see how shallow you delved. He even called people Trumpanzees . Hypocrite!!!

My dear, if you fail to see the Smiley's attached then you fail to get the joke, from my own perspective, it is so much fun to observe a character you detest self destruct repeatedly and that's why I'm familiar with trumps many blunders not because it affects me anyways, the evolution of the terminologies involved in his border security over time is very hilarious you don't agree? Well no surprises there! And the stealth f-35 joke sails past you too? Well, too bad! does me finding it hilarious amount to me espousing an American political ideology? You tell me
I'm not you so where again is my hypocrisy? Subscribe to Trevor Noah's daily show pleeezzz! you'd hate that you love it! satire can be brutal!

Trumpanzees, buharideens, didn't coin those terms but damn do they stick!

budaatum:
I don't need to prove I'm not stupid to you. Unlike others, I'm satisfied with you calling me names. But if you care, the privatisation he championed when he was VP is enough for me not to support him, and you don't get to tell the likes of me what to do with my own pvc! At least, I don't need to obey you!

I am not calling you names, (not yet anyways) but you called a candidate i support a thief and i am sure you do say that by popular opinion of the political party you espouse, you also went ahead to call me stupid for comparing buharism to trumpism (my reason is simple, both are personality cults hinged on the belief that the object of adoration can do no wrong)
If privatization is wrong, what would you rather have? We do operate a capitalist economy right? Right?
I can't tell you what to do with Your PVC but failure to mention atiku's acts of thievery makes you that uncomplementary word that rhymes with cupid! see? I done did it!

Anduku:
And I guess you here in Nigeria appreciate and understand what's happening in the US fully enough to be taking sides with Abbeybailey right? You really need to look in the mirror and see that you do exactly everything you are attacking me for. We have a Nigerian living in the US on this forum, Temple1288 and he has said categorically that what Abbeybailey and co say here are blatant lies, so what informed your decision to take sides with Abbeybailey and not him? I can't get information from Conservative news sites but you and your fellow liberals are free to get yours from CNN and other liberal news sights right? What a joker!!! If I am to use your own description, then you are also a very I'll informed but strongly opinionated individual

I do appreciate what is going on in the states far better than you because unlike you (at the risk of sounding like a broken record) i have family and colleagues over there and their collective accounts are my basis for my opinions not just news media alone although the media most times buttresses their points even your much vouched for fox news whose newsfeeds i also subscribe to and i challenge your source of firsthand experience this Temple 1288 to come call me a liar too! That is how confident i am that i am not you!
Like i said earlier, my source(s) are not liberal news outlets(not only) I subscribe to faux news, new York times also, I stay away from the alt right talk heads of Ben Shapiro, hannity and co because my tolerance wanes anytime i hear them, on faux news, it may interest you that they do give their conservative guests a rundown of possible questions and preferable answers I think a F.O.I request revealed they did for the EPA director anyway, and a latino faux news host or is it contributor went recently and i kid you not "I know i am the designated pinyatta on fox news but to say this caravan of women and children is a criminal invasion is very discriminatory and racist" I hope you're still enjoying faux news

Anduku:
Defensive indeed!! From what? Someone who goes about making flimsy accusations? Aren't you the one who posted the quote below?


You were very unequivocal in your accusation so stop trying to shift the goalpost. I just set you right with the truth and that's that.

And you calling others insane liberals makes you what? I know where and how i draw my inference Mr! Dont shift goalposts by claiming you don't delve deeper into american politics by espousing an American political ideology!

budaatum:
Thanks for the "stupid". Even though Sai my bubu, but down Trump. How supporting Atiku, a known crook who wishes to sell, or rather, own the golden goose is not stupid defies reason in my book!

A known crook and your proof is?
This is your chance to prove you're not stupid

Kophschmerzen:
Black Nigeria reshiticians, y'all look up what Steve Miller, David Duke, Richard Spencer think of y'all and come back at me. You can sit far away and sprout sh1t but the seven year old girl shot in Houston Texas by white nationalist spur on by Trump, will be lying in a grave now for no just cause.

no this is just liberal media drivel according to Obixcel and anduku, they'd tell you it has absolutely nothing to do with trump but when the shooter is caught (mark my words he'd be caught alive as against a black suspect riddled with a hundred bullet holes by white police officers fearful for their lives) his history will show he supports trump, attended some of his rallies too and bought into trumps narratives too

Anduku:
Abbeybailey, before you go on applauding, I hope you read the bolded part very well? This coming from your fellow Trump hater should knock some sense into your thick skull

and oh!.......you missed this part, very conveniently too

I also mentioned that it is rich to sit in the comfort of your African skin in your home in a homogenously black African country on the African continent and claim to understand the challenges of what it is to have our skin color today in trumps America where all the closet racists have come out unapologetic with a barely disguised in your face racism because they have an unapologetic neo fascist as president

Chew on this! I here is where i fully stand with Abbeybailey you can't here in Nigeria in the comfort of your own race and skin say you appreciate the experience and challenges of a black man in Trump's America better than a black man in Trump's America! Gettit? And if the source(s) of information from which you draw your inference that this is not the case is/are conservative media outlets and talking heads then more's the pity, it makes you an ill informed but strongly opinionated individual! And i challenge you to communicate with at least 20 African Americans currently resident in the states personally and get the overwhelmingly majority opinion and see why you're ill informed

Cc Obixcel

I hope this replies you sufficiently

Abbeybailey:
Wow, not trying to patronize you , I will say God bless you for this post. You nailed it. Imagine a Deer supporting a Lion in the jungle. That's Blacks supporting a vile rgacist pig named Trump.

you're most welcome

Anduku:
And by the way, your friend Abbeybailey doesn't believe you should be here either. He has a huge dislike for people who live in Nigeria like you comnenting on this thread, he thinks you should remain in your "third world cave" (his words not mine) and have nothing to say about the things happening in the US.

Abbeybailey!!! What have you to say about this my fellow third world cave dweller commenting on American politics?

Well, there's that teensy weensy little issue of being more catholic than the pope isn't there? Will infuriate any priest i reckon

Anduku:
And where if I may ask have I ever told you I belong to the GOP? Just like you, I am on an American thread on a Nigerian forum giving my own opinions and supporting who I want to support but here you are again lying about me claiming to be a political party member in the US. I challenge you to show me one single post where I said I belong to a party in the US. Just another typical example of liberal foolishness!!! And who told you I don't have any party or ideology I support in Nigeria? You just get all these jargons from your over active imagination. A simple glance through my posts on nairaland will show you that I am very much interested in Nigerian politics and air my opinions about it also. Stop with the nonsense of attributing to me things I never said or never did

Ah, a tad bit defensive are we? I said and i quote "something tells me" read specifics because it seems you're the one jumping to conclusions here! So good of you to clarify that at least our dear old Nigeria has a niche in your heart! I was beggining to worry

Anduku:
Very nice attempt at pivoting away from the fact that you totally goofed in your earlier post by trying to pin on me something I never said, bravo. I read your entire post and I struggle to understand the point you are making. What is my grouse with what? Someone wishing for a recession? I guess if someone comes out tomorrow to wish you were killed then we should applaud him because wishes don't kill people? Then as for your insinuating I am not supposed to have a party or ideology I support in the US because I live in Nigeria, my question is then what are you doing on this thread yourself? Seeing as this thread was opened to discuss American politics, then you shouldn't be here since you live in Nigeria. You have been here attacking Trump but you turn around to tell me I can't support him or the GOP because I live in Nigeria. Only and only a Nigerian liberal indeed!!! On an American politics thread attacking the President of the US and taking sides in a debate about a border wall in the US? You're a bloody Hypocrite!!! As for filling in that blank space of yours? I guess SMART is the word you are looking for

Point of correction, this is an american thread on a Nigerian forum and yes you and i are allowed to have opinions but that's where it ends, opinions only, but no, you delve in deeper into party membership[i] (sic)[/i] and espousing ideologies, well they say charity begins at home, what political ideology do you espouse to in Nigeria? I have told you mine is progressive cum liberal and yes i support not belong to the PDP, where do you stand here at home?
Yes and yes i attack trump and if you go back to my earliest and successive posts, you'd see i attack him for what i surmised he stands for and allow happens in terms of racial injustices not party affiliation or political ideologies as those have little direct impact on me so where i beg you is my hypocrisy? I said back then and i repeat today that the rational behind the misnomer "a black trump supporter" is very confusing and defeatist to be honest! I also mentioned that it is rich to sit in the comfort of your African skin in your home in a homogenously black African country on the African continent and claim to understand the challenges of what it is to have our skin color today in trumps America where all the closet racists have come out unapologetic with a barely disguised in your face racism because they have an unapologetic neo fascist as president and i am not sprouting hearsay, I actually do have family there, this is something you'd appreciate if you were in constant communication with the family you have there, so having put my opposition of trump into context i ask you, where is my hypocrisy in championing the cause of people(Americans) of same racial stock as myself because that is chiefly what i do on this thread and if that translates to opposing trump, why not?

In return i ask you in a different manner, if you do lack a political party or ideology in your own country, where is your much touted wisdom?

slawomir:
Proud to be a Bini man
The only tribe mentioned in Black panther

The only city where people use money as if they have big company and industry.

The city where the king is truely king

The only city on Nigeria map

Oba gha to okpere! Ise!

The only city the white men visited in West Africa and they were impressed and surprise at the smart thinking of the Binis on how they could come up with such idea of constructing roads that link the entire city to ring road even when they thought black is far from civilization as at then




Isoright

Out of the movies above
Have watched six

Definitely mission impossible by Tom cruise will always earn more

I was shocked when i discovered that the two most richest actors in the world are Tom cruise
And sharukhan

Wrong, they may be the highest earners for last year bit overall I think Samuel s Jackson is the richest actor alive currently

Vinstel:
And where in his write up did you see him say that recession is a product of wishes? It will do you well to read a post properly before jumping to respond to it. Abbeybailey has been wishing for a recession in the US just so he can have something to bash Trump with and he called him out for it, simple. That doesn't mean that just because he wished then it must happen. That's what it will remain, an unfulfilled wish! Because no recession is going to happen in the US. In fact, for the past five days, the economic indices have been on an upward swing so those evil people praying for a recession should better forget it. It isn't happening.

If according to you, they're mere wishes not supported by any concurrent economic realities then i ask you too, WHAT DA BLUIDY HELL IS YOUR GROUSE? see? If i wish for purple unicorns or a volcanic eruption or maybe a shift in the tectonic plates with resultant earthquakes which you know to be implausible, you'd ignore me but if you know my wishes to be in the realm of possibility, then your reaction will be more understandable, so if it is nothing but mere wishing not corroborated by wall street pundits and/or the feds and/or economic analysts why does this mere wishing discomfit you guys so? Why does it not evoke only the type of reaction my wishing for a purple unicorn does? Why the consternation? Or maybe there's some truth to the alternate theory that it is more than a plausibility

Anduku:
I never said anywhere that recession is a product of wishes so I don't know what you are yapping about. I just condemned a lunatic who was wishing for a recession. Is this not a perfect example of the liberal foolishness I spoke about? It seems being a liberal and being sane are mutually exclusive, you can't be one and be the other at the same time

If wishing for a recession can't result into one then what's your grouse mbok? I repeat what's your grouse? From what I've read about your comments and that of some other characters, you're classic examples of trying to be more catholic than the pope! You, i and many others are Nigerians resident in Nigeria and you have a political party you support in America lols or is it a political ideology you espouse to? conservatism abi? Since you repeatedly condemn alleged liberals, if you tag me a liberal, i readily accept and own up to being a liberal i.e open minded to better ways of doing things but only and only a Nigerian liberal so in your case, what does being a Nigerian conservative mean? See why i insist you're not qualified to judge anybody's sanity? You can't espouse to a political ideology in a country where you have no stake and no say and lack one in your own country where you have a stake and a say, it is like being more concerned about what happens in your neighbor's bedroom while you have a sexually unsatisfied wife!
See what i have done? I didn't mention political parties whether democrats or republicans because for either of us to claim to belong to anyone of either would be sheer stupidity but something tells me that sometime, somewhere you must have proffessed one which in my definition makes you effing ...................... You can fill in the blank space