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CanadaOrBust:
But he is right. Read his post.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom
—The primary classes. Where you begin.

and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
—The advanced classes.

Ihedinobi3:
Hello.

For what it is worth, I don't think that either you or Praivit0 can prove your rather big claims about the believers of the first century. I'm quite confident that you are both wrong.

Of course, the 66 books of the Bible were not bound together in one volume at the time, but that was because the technology did not exist. Books were written on scrolls that had a physical limit to their size. You could only "bind" so many scrolls together into a "book." For that reason, the early believers actually kept copies of all the books of Scripture in their meeting places for public reading when they assembled. Then, if anyone could afford it and had the ability or could afford the services of a reader, they made copies of any given book that they wanted to own and read or have read to them privately.

As I have argued several times on this thread (and elsewhere), every writing of Scripture was clear to believers to be Scripture right from the moment that it was written throughout history, including during the time of Moses. No believer with any spiritual common sense and a heart open to Truth has ever been confused about what is Scripture and what is not. It is immediately obvious. The Bible itself says as much. Paul and Peter were still alive obviously when Peter affirmed that Paul's writings were Scripture. Paul himself commanded the churches that he wrote to to share his letters to them with other churches and to make copies of his letters to other churches for their own selves. He did that because he was full aware that he was writing Scripture to them. In the Old Testament, Moses consciously wrote everything he did on God's direct orders. Jeremiah did too. Even when King Zedekiah burnt the first uncompleted book of Jeremiah, his officials knew that it was Scripture and tried to persuade him not to.

As for the 66 books being available to the Church of the Apostolic Age, the New Testament was completed by the middle of the first century. Not only was it completed, it was also very quickly distributed as it was being written. So, believers throughout the world had access to the full Bible when the Apostles finished writing the New Testament. Nobody lacked for the Truth at any time.

Of course, many other books were traditionally preserved in perhaps many assemblies, books that were clearly known not to be Scripture, but which believers loved to have read to them and which some of them thought had some spiritual value. Among these perhaps would be the histories like the books of the Maccabees. Eventually, things like this became a snare when apostates who thought too highly of themselves assumed licence to teach falsehoods that violated what the Apostles taught.

This is what led to the agitation for a Canon. The whole business of defining a Canon was not because anyone was in doubt of what was Scripture and what was not, it was entirely because false teachers in the church visible began to create confusions in the church visible especially regarding the Deity and Humanity of Jesus Christ.

Even so, the binding of all the books of the Bible into a single physical volume did not occur until new book-making technology that allowed the creation of large volumes came about. As I said, this did not stop Christian churches from collectively owning a full collection of all 66 books. If you could afford it then, you could even privately own a copy of this collection. Judging by the vast array of manuscripts from so long ago too, it seems clear that many copies of the collection existed in varying degrees of completeness too, certainly because of private ownership of copies made according to affordability.

As for the Book of Enoch, as I've said, I don't presume to decide for anyone what to believe and what not to believe. But the Book of Enoch is a late production. It was a copy-cat project designed to draw legitimacy from what Jude wrote. There is absolutely no inspiration in the work. Jude himself made reference to no book at all. He only quoted Enoch himself, something that can be explained by his status as a prophet (that is, one who declares God's oracles). A prophet obtains information through various divine means including visions and dreams. Jude was writing of something that had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit, not of anything he had read from any book.

Nonetheless, you need not receive this as any kind of rejection or challenge to your right to believe anything you want. I completely and wholeheartedly believe in your right to exercise your free will. The rewards and consequences of your choices are between you and the Lord. My part is merely to teach the Truth to anyone who might listen.

MuttleyLaff:
Look at your fingers, are they equal in length?

Empathy and having compassion to your neighbour will save you from the lake of fire.

Abdulgaffar22:
But is it really true that any lifeless and unconscious entity can perform any kind of exercise; let alone the exercise that will cause such LIFELESS and UNCONSCIOUS entity to now become FULLY AWARE of itself ?

MuttleyLaff:
If you're playing a poker game and you look around the table and can't tell who the sucker is, it's you. Don't ever again make the mistake of underestimating someone because you never know, what one thing you don't know about, they might be holding in, lol.

LabDNA:
What are the chances that if these appointments are based on merit, these big men children will occupy those offices.

Anas09:

MuttleyLaff: How old are you budaatum?

budaatum:
I am 13 years old.

Lucasbalo:
She sure did win. Kudos to her because Tens of millions of Americans give Taliban Trump the middle finger everyday.

Lucasbalo:
No way, the guy is so divisive, it's unbelievable. Trump IQ at best is below par. He's a national embarrassment to all well meaning Americans.

Lucasbalo:
That guy is a Nazi sympathizer and no wonder he love the racist pig Trump.

CTPlayer:
Besides you who else said that. Nobody. You have outed yourself as the racist though.

CTPlayer:
You are such a phucking idiot. Mexico the entire country is ran by the Drug Cartels. You can't even admit that I am right about the Mexican rapists and you change to topic to some weird ass chit. You need help with your brain lol.

CaveAdullam:
Thank God spiritual maturity is not to believe in the 66 books but to love the Lord God Almighty with all our heart, soul, mind and strength and to love our neighbors also.

Maamin:
What baffles me is how you take so much time and pride to defend what is indefensible. You have been fed so many times scriptural evidence on so many account on this thread and even on the previous thread concerning the sons of God in Gen 6:2 but your pride in wanting to win argument won't let you admit the truth. Keep it up!

MuttleyLaff:
Fyi, Satan appreciates what you and others, the likes of rosy1992, Ihenobi3, budaatum,, EMILO2STAY, kkins25 and missjojo bring up unsubstantial bible verses, that are easily demolished and torn apart into shreds. You, in particular Maamin, along with Ihedinobi3 and EMILO2STAY have put forward bible verses, the likes of Luke 20:34-36, Genesis 6:4, Job 6:2, Job 1:6, Job 2:1 etcetera, that are not contextually read

OLAADEGBU:
You started by misleading readers with the spelling of bestiality and you went on to denigrate the story of the OP because it was reported some years back. In your crooked mind you think time erases crime committed.

CanadaOrBust:
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom

CanadaOrBust:
and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

SniperAssassin:
1. First of all, I agree that the earth is older than 6000 years. Those questions are directed towards those who don't. But, if we are to take the book of Genesis as a source on history, then the earth was created before the stars and by extension, all galaxies (Genesis 1:16: And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.). And it is impossible for the stars to exist before the earth, seeing that it is the nuclear fusion in them, that creates the elements found in the earth out of hydrogen.