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SuperOnyi:



This means Nigeria has always not being easy , anyway it'd take a miracle for me to line up and vote for anyone especially on federal level.

Yes, Nigeria has always not been easy.

In the 1950s, my father would walk 7 miles to Osogbo from my village, then all the way to Ilesha to get to the grammar school. And he had to return every Friday to work on my grandfathers farm on Saturday and Sunday.

As for you not voting, I can only hope the miracle does happen so you not only stand in line to vote, but before then, encourage your friends and family to get their pvc in advance too and vote. And while you are standing in line that you record what you see too to deter those organising the election from rigging it.

Its our country you see. And no one but ourselves can redeem us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO9m6PHO_nw?si=n_0IOMmUmgAGjpoq

GBTYO:
They are not Christians.

These are the same people Solodu said have become apostates of the church and have been converting to voodoo worship

Do you expect a Christian to reason like these heathens?

I hope Christians do not reason like this. They wouldn't love their neighbours, but just kill them and claim their God told them to.

Scarcity234:
Drunk fowl, unity beggar of a failed country.
And, you're nothing as your opinion nor help is not needed to effect any decision.

You're nothing.

You must be something. And my hope is that you become a lot more in due time. Hopefully you'd by then learn to make your opinion and help needed and effect many decisions in your life, since charity must start in your own heart, and in your country.

StraightGaay:
Israel shouldn't be distracted, they're doing the lords work, doing away with terrorism and restoring worlds peace.

Israel is doing the lords work by killing children?

I guess your lord must like the human sacrifice then, though I can't see how that eliminates terrorism and restores world peace.

It looks like some people don't like the Agbado we elected.

Holluwhakemmy:
2023 election really turned Peter Obi to something else. He just want to be on news doing unreasonable things up and down

Don't mind that my Obi.

Why can't he be like Agbado who is doing reasonable things that is making Nigerians smile.

Let me know when you decide to stop being Nigerian so I can consider contributing towards you moving your Biafra to Rwanda.

The fewer stupid people we have left in Nigeria, the better we'd become.

Scarcity234:
You're the obvious stupid fowl can't even understand what the rubbish it spills.

Worse is thy you think you can play me.

You're very dumb and ain't what you think yourself.

Drunk fellow.
Read the rubbish you spilled again when sober.

They are not smiling because our leaders are clueless and lack vision

They really are clueless if they haven't yet realised that they elected the leaders that are wiping the smiles off their faces.

In fact, since we don't realise and don't seem to want to smile, I am now going to consider no more being the obidient that I am and campaign for the Agbado insyead!

Vote for Tinubu in 2027 please! Smile na scam

pdppower:
You will gladly vote for him again. Why then are you complaining? Be ready to continue wallowing in hunger.

The turkey is voting for Christmas, lol.

SuperOnyi:

It's dedicated to people who have never had to go on fasting for weeks because they had nothing to eat and break it with a bread, akara, and plenty water.

Chai! Those days!

I would starve all day and eat small eba at night with lots of water to fill me up so I can sleep. Then one day, a friend came crying that his hunger pass my own, and I ended up sharing my small eba and water with him for years.

I'm talking 1984-88 here, after I realised that my eating is not to be left to the sweat off the brow of some politician, but the sweat off my own brow. Never starved since.

All I can say is education, and pvc. And hope those starving learn to use both wisely so these times may pass for the starvers.

ijebosb:
Do you think slavery should have been left up to the states to decide?
In fact, states rights was the very argument used to try to prevent the end of slavery by Southern States.

And then we fought a war. And slavery is not even left to a country these days not to talk of a state.

Slaves couldn't just up from those states and go to states where there were free people like I can take my body out of a state that wants to own my choice, so sorry, I don't see them as being the same thing. When they run after me and jail me for my choice, we can equate them then.

In fact, I would love those who want to own my body to be stupid and jail me for my choice so I can Rosa Park their stupid asses or even go to war, though I feel the majority would vote them out long before then or a Biden might put my body my choice in to the constitution.

In fact, the way the world is currently leaning, I wouldn't be surprised if one day in the future, my body my choice isn't eventually a right enshrined in the world constitution just like antislavery is. I just hope its sooner rather than not soon.

ijebosb:
A lot of people disagree.

And isn't that why we have democracy, to sort out what we do despite our differences and disagreement?

ijebosb:
The Supreme Court size is a norm. The question is what do you believe is more important, protecting a norm of 9 justices and lifetime appointments, or protecting people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery.

The supreme court said the state should decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery, which means the majority people in the state get to decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery. But in the current end, it boils down to my body my choice, since no one can stop me leaving a state where I am in a minority and go to a state where I am part of the majority. That, is democracy at work.

Now, if Biden would do me good, he'd put my body my choice in the constitution so states can't take over my body. But I guess he'd find it difficult getting past federalism and state autonomy.

ijebosb:
I believe that Education is the foundation of a Democracy. A lot of people in the US aren't getting that education.

Now, that's a pity, that a lot if people in the US aren't getting that education.

Happened in Nigeria too by the way. A lot of people did not get educated by Buhari's APC hardship and elected Tinubu's APC who is now educating us on his own even worse hardship.

I hope we learn, but if we don't and behave again like turkeys voting for more APC Christmas, I guess we'd just be repeating the class and our education continues, I say.

ijebosb:
The problem is that a majority of the US could get it and Biden wouold still lose as our elections are based on the Electoral College. And the spaces with the unfair electoral advantage are the least educated.

Its gerrymandering. And it makes USA seem undemocratic in my view. But it is at it is until we amend the constitution I'm afraid. Pity Biden isn't looking to change it already

ijebosb:
yes there are vast amount of Americans that are stupid and get easily fooled by misinformation. And those tend to be the loudest voice. It's the truth. And this thread isn't the outlier you think it is.

Loudest voices, but still one vote each. And yes, this thread isn't the outlier. I got Newsmaxx, Infowars, OAN and Fox on my telly talking the same ignorant stupid qanon 2000mules rubbish, and there's many on Twitter and a reddit and that dump's failing Lies Social. And almost half the country showed they are stupid, so I ought to know this thread and others like it here aren't outliers. My hope is they continue to be the minority they were at the last election, and the next election would let me know if they are or not.

ijebosb:
Though we have free speech doesn't mean we can't stop protecting those who spread it.

I don't want to protect those spreading lies. What I want to be done is have them charged to court and be found guilty and fined a la Alex Jones and dump and Guiliani and Sidney Powell and Bannon et al. I gain much pleasure when the jail time and money they are being asked to pay results in them going bankrupt and imprisoned.

ijebosb:
Biden begging Meechan would be political interference.

I know it is. Still, as soon as dump is jailed by Merchan, Biden should beg the state governor for dump's release. The humiliation would make my day.

ijebosb:
As head of the Executive Branch, Biden's duty is to enforce the law. The DOJ falls under him. It's been norm that the President walls himself off given them independence, but Attorney General reports to him, so untested because of the Norm, but many people believe the President can dictate prosecutions.

See above where I am asking Biden to illegally jump over the wall and free dump, lol.

I'd hate it though if Biden jumped over that same wall and weaponised the DOJ to prosecute dump.

tctrills:
I think you have so watered down the meaning of revolution that anything can be seen as a revolution.

If that weren't true, I'd be here arguing that the so called Iranian revolution was just a coup, but since some call it a revolution, arguing it isn't would be ridiculous.

tctrills:
You happen to be doing two things at the same time. You have watered down the meaning of revolution and complicated at the same time.

This earns my utmost respect.

Revolution is a complex word. Its why I offered the more complex wikipedia definition and not just some simplified meaning from a dictionary. The wiki shows the complexity and the varying meanings of the word while also showing the various arguments about what constitutes a revolution.

Its in the eye of the beholder. I mentioned Eve as an example of a revolutionary person, but you said she was just being disobedient. The objection to South Africa's apartheid was a revolution, but some call those revolting terrorists. Jesus Christ was a revolutionist, but he died in the process. And when we consider the outcomes, like the millions who died in China's Cultural Revolution, you see it as bad, while many look at China's resulting rise today in envy. That, is how complex this is.

Anyway, after all that. Thank you very much for the interesting respectful discussion. You are appreciated.

Scarcity234:
You're just childish.

So if I child seeks to break away from a family to start his own because of his dislike of how he's being treated, he will automatically resort to doing things that would cause his present family to fail?

This is just stupid! And it shows you have comprehension issues and a reasoning deficiency, and are not worth responding to.

When you fix your issues, hola then.

basilico:
I know its wrong to talk ill of the dead, did Alex Jones shoot them for them to get such an award.

Literally speaking, yes he did shoot them.

Instead of letting them grieve their losses, he intentionally lied just as you do here, and rallied his troop to verbally shoot them too, and is now paying for it.

Seriously, I doubt you have him on your telly. If you did you'd know how sick he is. Actually, scrap that last bit. If you knew how sick he is you'd likely know how sick you are.

The best was watching him cry and beg you all week to buy his diq hardener. Best comedy ever it was, and very much made my day.

elated177:
Probably in your own culture, budaatum, women have never been oppressed in my own culture or part of the world.

I have never said this to anyone on here but I'm going to say it to you. I don't read past the first few lines of your post because even the tiny bit I do read is not worth the bother.

If you get your head unstuck from where you normally stick it, which is usually up some gay person's ass, that might change, but currently, you quoting me to attract attention to your thread is just you being a nuisance and a pest and an attempt to make buda stink like you do, at which you are sure to fail.

Go find something to do please and leave me out of your stupidity and ignorance. I don't have time to waste on you.

Even my UK law is getting this dump. Must be because he hires the best lawyers here too.

tctrills:
Let me ask, do you call the 2015 election a revolution? We dumped PDP for APC remember?

No, I wouldn't, since there was nothing groundbreaking about it in my opinion, despite it being the first democratic change of governing party in Nigeria.

Electing my Obi on the other hand would have definitely required a transformation in the psyche of the majority of Nigerians to the extent that I would have called it revolutionary. I however would not have been surprised if I were not agreed with.

raskymonojendor:
Well he is not wrong. Twice Awolowo demanded that secession be put in the constitution, and twice Azikiwe ensured that would not be.

A limited capability to understand what one reads is worst than not reading at all.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/1953-12-02/debates/35479b07-f546-4c3a-afd7-3b631f006046/FutureStatusOfLagos

Let's see if the US House sanctions UN too.

Justice works.

Scarcity234:
You deem yourself intelligent with your comments that's reeks of childishness?

You ain't close to being one.

You made a claim above and I asked you a question that you ignored...

Is every crime by anyone in Nigeria committed cause the criminal wants Nigeria to fail and is every criminal a secessionist?

First, I never told you I was intelligent, but thank you for associating me with intelligence. It is appreciated.

The answer to your question is no. But I don't know why you'd ask me that question since I never said "every crime by anyone in Nigeria committed cause the criminal wants Nigeria to fail and is every criminal a secessionist".

Now that I think of it however, every crime by anyone in Nigeria does contribute to Nigeria failing. Some criminals though, just commit crimes for their daily bread and don't give a fuq about seceding or whatever damage their crime might do to Nigeria.

And now that I've answered your question, I've also gone and reread your initial post and can only conclude that you have comprehension issues, and you definitely have problems expressing yourself, which makes me wonder if you are not the childish one. Otherwise, how can you possibly conclude from what I wrote and that you responded to that those who believe in Nigeria want to justify Biafra?

If they were alive during the war, would they have worn Biafra and Nigerian army uniforms and fought for both sides too?

Scarcity234:
I guess those who belonged to the other side of the war who believed in Nigeria and who are now were and and are still doing what you listed wanted to justify Biafra?

What kind 0f childish thought is this?

Your comprehension abilities are as bad as your inability to express yourself like a mature human being.

atheistconverta:
You have a point though... I have added another screenshot this time of kobojunkie himself so i hope that suffices for you.

A little better, but I can't conclude from that that he said Jesus Christ never existed.

My fault though. I'm pedantic like that.

I feel like spreading lies that you are gay, ritualist, witch or wizard. E.t.c., but I know it would be stupid to do so.

Dump her if you don't like her instead of coming here to post on social media and socialise with us.

Autodidact1:
Stop asking stupid questions you already know the amswer to. Or is your bias locking your 🧠?

Stop commenting if you haven't got anything intelligent to say.

atheistconverta:
Kobojunkie seems on a mission here to make a mockery of the teachings of Jesus by quoting them as though he were a true follower of Christ, but will trying to convert Christians to atheists at the back telling them Jesus never existed. Beware!

Op, your evidence is untrustworthy, do note.

If you want to accuse someone of saying something here on Nairaland, you'd need to quote where they said it, instead of presenting someone claiming that person said what you claim they said.

If I were to quote yours above and claim the person you accuse said what you claim they said without providing evidence where they said it, it would be lazy, and I'd just be lying, and that, in my opinion, is worst than being an atheist.

tctrills:
Yes, the American Revolution is one of the very few good ones. But if you notice, all the examples you give are older than 100 years and far in between. That only tells you that revolution is not a smart move. And I never said all revolutions are negative, I said most. It was you who felt all revolutions must be positive. But it seems you have changed your mind about that so good for you.

My objection is against your sweeping statement that revolutions are bad. Whether revolutions are good or bad depends on the person revolting, is what you can't seem to accept. And you fail to recognise that even good or bad is subjective.

If I revolt against oppression and die in the process, you might think that is bad, but as I stated in this very conversation, some would rather revolt, and even if they died in the process, it could still be considered good for them and for others who might live. Examples are Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.

Anyway, as I said, I always revolt against those who would oppressor me. My dignity alone would make me revolt, as I'd lose respect for myself if I don't. And that's probably why I don't get oppressed. It's like standing up to bullies. If you don't revolt against them they'd just keep bullying you.

As for your many other ways, they are included in revolution for me, which is standing up against the status quo in order to effect change. And there's no reason why that standing up needs to be bloody, which is why peaceful revolutions effected by Martin Luther King Jr and Gandhi and Eve are mentioned.

And to that list I add Jesus Christ, and revolutions that come into effect due to the peaceful practice of democracy. If Nigerians had dumped APC and PDP at the last election, we'd likely be talking about a peaceful revolution now.