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Government wants to control price at the pump by expecting me to sell at a loss, lol.

budaatum:
Electrical Tomatoes

The emboldened is about the only bit of this that got my attention but I notice it caught no one else's.

"Price controls"! It means a product is kept at a price set by government, and in Nigeria, we know it's kept low and very likely beneath the cost at which it can be sold at a profit. Like petrol really. But we can at least claim a reason for petrol with our crude oil and our ineptitude at running refineries. Electric though!?

Imagine it were tomatoes. You invest in land and fertiliser and labour and grow them, and when you get them to the market, government sets the price. I'm absolutely certain if that price is higher than the cost at which you grow your tomatoes, you wouldn't mind much. You'd likely be delighted if it's high enough for you to make a tidy profit. And if you're fortunate and the price set is so high, you'd likely invest in more land and more fertilizer and more labour and grow even more tomatoes. But this is Naija, where the price set by government is more likely to be way below your costs so that after you sell your tomatoes, you would have lost money.

Now think, you lost money on your tomatoes. Are you going to plant tomatoes next season? If you're into the charity business or you're stupid, you just might. But if you're not and have rent and school fees for your kids to pay and you want to eat and pay the interest on a loan I very much doubt you'd be stupid enough to throw your money away growing unprofitable tomatoes!

Well, that's the case with electricity in Nigeria I'm afraid. You generate it, transport it along unreliable transmission wires, lose a large chunk of it to illegal use and theft and what you do get paid for does not cover the cost of producing it. Now tell, would you plant electricity next season? I very much doubt it unless you're into the charity business or you're stupid, of course, but somehow, I just can't imagine you'd be either.

So, what's the solution you might wonder. Increase the price of electricity of course. But come on people, increase the price of electricity so electricity planters can earn more money and plant more and sell more? Surely you must be cursing me by now, or haven't you noticed you'd have to pay more for my electric if you want it?

Ok, perhaps you're all nice civilised folks and don't want to curse me so let's try a different way of looking at this. Imagine Buhari removes the price control so I can sell my electricity at a market determined price like I currently sell my tomatoes no doubt at a profit high enough for me to want to plant more next year. Are you cursing me yet? I'm sure you would be if it was the subsidy on petrol I were talking about removing. Hell no! You'd likely stone me if you could get your hands on me!

Well, that's what this piece is saying where it says "The private sector is given little incentive to invest.” After all, I'm in the electric planting business for the money and the profit and not because I love you all as Adam Smith would say, so why give you light if you aren't paying me for the priviledge! And you wanna complain you're in darkness?!

When you pay me enough to cover my planting of tomatoes after paying for the land and the fertilizer and the labour and the interest on a loan and cover what I lose to theft and illegal harvesting, and still make a tidy profit to reinvest, I will plant 12000megawatts of tomatoes and I will sell 12000megawatts of tomatoes and even more megawatts of tomatoes than you can eat even because you would be incentivizing me to invest what you pay me in more land and more fertiliser and more labour to plant more tomatoes so I will have more tomatoes to sell you and make more money. But if you want cheap electric, keep your price controls and don't incentivize me but don't expect me to waste my time labouring in the sun just so you can have light because, like you, I ain't that stupid nor into the charity business!

Anyone cursing me yet, because I am telling you, we are too cheap!

I really haven't figured out what the scam is here, and would appreciate enlightenment.

https://immigration.gov.ng/visa_group/employment/

bemeruca:
but you see what I was warning you about. this is happening because the police arrested a lot of innocent people the other day for nothing. the two-tier policing will bite them hard and it will only get worse.

The way you reason is somehow. In fact, you don't reason at all.

Why would police arrest innocent people?

basilico:
Just a quick one. Who the fuq with a straight mind endorse Kamala Harris?

You ask who endorsed?

I think you should wait to see how many people actually vote for her so you can claim they all have unstraight minds.

Mercisharelove:
GOD ALMIGHTIEST IN CHRIST JESUS BY THE HOLIEST SPIRIT NATURE. DO YOU HAVE IT?

Whatever I might think I have is irrelevant, as I might just be lying to myself that I have what I lack.

If you have the "HOLIEST SPIRIT NATURE", you will know what others have by their fruits.

Do note that you have not answered my question.

What exactly is this "eternal life"?

Sapasenator:
OP claim to love "God" but hate and curse everyone around her, no be madness be that. I never attempt to reason with these religious mad people.
It is a colossal waste of time.

Such people should try to understand the Bible they preaching instead of merely believing it. For not so doing is like crucifying the Christ they peddling.

Do know that the person responded to is not the only reader of my responses, and that while some seeds might fall by the wayside and wither in the sun, some will fall on fertile land and produce fruit even a thousand fold.

bemeruca:
@budaatum, one police station burning in Sunderland. the people are angry about two-tiered policing which is obvious now. I will say, all sides are just wrong but the negligence of the politicians will only make things worse.

I think burning down a police station will make it worse for the police station burner, but they might at least be lucky and not have to share a prison cell with migrants.

LordAdam16:
Kyle Rittenhouse endorses President Trump.
https://twitter.com/ThisIsKyleR/status/1819459882510069816

This will be a non-issue if you guys weren't desperate for any news to sustain the Kamala bump.

Yet, here is you making it an issue because of the sustained Kamala bump.

AsabaAgent:
Those days when food was being imported farmers never complained

They just stopped farming, and the price of food kept going up, so you now can't afford what's imported.

nairalanda1:
I still won't blame our education system.

Is that something a kid with SSCE Biol would grasp?

You seem to think I mean the sort of secondary school education received in Nigeria, or that one must have learnt every single fact.

Science is compulsory all the way through secondary school in some countries, along with critical reasoning, and its effect is the development of minds that are willing to continuously learn even long after they may have left school. While our schools teach science as if it were some sort of religion in which knowledge and understanding never evolves and the facts must be believed.

A good education will teach science as the development of the mind to learn and reason, instead of just the filling of students with facts. After all, I did not learn about the condition being discussed here, and went and did my own research to educate myself about it.

A bad education would make me discard what I found out and stick to my ignorance, is my point.

ShoeGetSize wouldn't post what he posted as evidence if he had a good education

Mercisharelove:
What are your greatest wishes??

My greatest wish would be that people love each other more. The world we live in would be much better if we did.

Now answer my question please.

What exactly is this "eternal life"?

ShoeGetSize:
Yes, I'm obviously lying. Even though Caster Semenya himself admitted that he had no womb and that he had undescended testicles.

Maybe the reason you're so emotionally invested in this issue is because you are also a woman with testicles.

You must need to degrade to elevate yourself.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/24/caster-semenya-800m-world-athletics-hbo-interview

Mercisharelove:
It will be the greatest discovery of your life to know that you got eternal life right now

What exactly is this "eternal life"?

ShoeGetSize:
Both Caster Semenya and Imane Khelif have male Instruments.

The fact that you need to lie just shows even you know your argument is weak.

If the athletes in question had male Instruments, no one would be arguing they are not male.

nairalanda1:
The problem is, most people only know that xx is female and xy is male.

And no, I am not going to blame our education system. Imagine doing it without some knowledge of undergraduate university level genetics and embryology knowledge.

If we don't blame our abysmal backward education system, we wouldn't fix it and solve the problem of ignorance that it causes.

That ignorance does not only apply to genetics and embryology. It is also the reason why we say "Nepa!" instead of "and there was light", after we've said "let there be light", and is also why many are protesting hunger today and that government is not feeding them instead of feeding themselves by the sweat of their brow.

First of all, he ordered me to resign from my job.

My Father insisted that I couldn't be unemployed because he didn't invest in me to sit at home.

He ordered you to resign and you agreed without considering your wonderful father's investment in you?

Your husband is a small pig and you mismarried. Accept you made a mistake and can easily correct it by dumping him.

Farmers who lose income will not remember him well.

Those who are not employed because jobs are exported for us to import will not remember him well.

The value of Naira becoming 3000 to the dollar would be remembered well by dollar sellers but I don't think buyers will remember him well.

Bond holders who will ask for higher interest to lend him money to subsidise your eating might remember him well, but Nigerians who pay back the loans for the food you ate wouldn't.

Inflation, if it has a memory will rejoice at record highs, and the Nigerian Stock Market will likely hit 200k, but sellers, when they do sell, will soon remember their wheel barrow amounts of money bought far less than before.

This is just a quick take though, so don't mind me.

These same people argued that Semenya was not a woman just because she was far better than them.

Its like arguing a person cheated just because they beat you.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13698605/What-DSD-condition-Olympic-boxing-controversy.html

This will send price of gari and petrol up a tad.

And by the time the protest is over, that tad will become significantly obvious to the busy protesters.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/investing/2024/08/02/nigerian-eurobonds-drop-as-deadly-protests-spark-investor-flight/

Mercisharelove:
I understand the struggles you are talking about, there's no crown without battles. That's for sure. You said you believe in CHRIST right. Do you ever think, God would say to Christ what he said to Adam?

First, I never said I believe in Christ because I don't. I rather read a book and try to understand instead of not using the brain in my head to ask and knock and seek for understanding.

As for you "Do you ever think, God would say", the proper question is, "would the writers of the Bible write what God is written to have said to Jesus what he is written to have said to Adam?"

And the answer to that question is likely not, since that wouldn't serve purpose, which was to feed people the fruits of knowledge so they be educated.

The pity some use the same book to enslave. Thankfully, it also has the capability to open the eyes of those who seek instead of merely believe.

Mercisharelove:
Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

He wasn't cursing Adam, no, he was actually cursing the ground, he couldn't curse Adam because cursing Adam would have been cursing himself.

Be that as it may, neither Adam nor the ground was cursed. If it were, Adam would not have been able to feed himself and his family, and they likely would have died of starvation and hunger. Instead, they used the knowledge they had gained to feed themselves and multiply.

Mercisharelove:
What I am saying is this, you don't operate under such atmosphere anymore, why? you are the righteousness of GOD ALMIGHTIEST right now as I speak with you.

The reason I don't operate under such atmosphere is because I regularly and constantly eat the fruits of knowledge. That is what Christians refer to as accepting Christ into one's life. It means going to church and learning from reading the Bible, as church was the school and the bible was the widely made available textbook of the time.

We today have evolved from then as education too has. The Bible is no more the only textbook, and we do not only go to church to learn one day a week anymore because we must go till the ground. Instead we go to school 5 days a week to learn to use our brains. And we are obviously better off for it since we learnt not to eat only bread or we'd have become malnourished.

bemeruca:
i never said this. you are lying as usual
which brain are you talking about?

So much controlled entry
https://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=8Cc VvRX5-XM

it's either crimes or the taxpayers feed them.

Funny you keep quoting far right channels to prove your point. Its like quoting the kkk to prove blacks should be hung.

Taxpayers will indeed feed asylum seekers while their status is being determined. We feed the starving in Sudan, and save whales and elephants too, because we are kind and generous and love our neighbours even if they live far away elsewhere.

If you are awaiting decision on your asylum seeking and commit a crime, your asylum becomes null and void and you'd be deported back to where you came from after you've served at his majesty's pleasure for your crime.

Mercisharelove:
3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

That these can't be applied to you anymore?

In one world I am a farmer, Mercisharelove, where if the above does not apply to me, I will starve because I would have been lazy. The alternative is of course to get slaves to sweat on my behalf of course, but slavery has been abolished so the best is to pay staff for the sweat off their brow.

In my intellectual world, I apply the sweat off my brow to learn my book or I would be ignorant and unemployable.

What you quoted is not a curse but a fact of life. One must work to eat unless one has sugar parents who have done the work for one.

Christ was promoting knowledge. He was basically saying, "use the sweat from your brain to learn by eating the fruits of trees of knowledge instead of using your brawn to till the ground" ignorantly.

The seeds planted with knowledge and wisdom do not produce thorns and thistles, but "grow hundredfold, in another sixty, and in another thirty”.

Konkoja:
You dived into topics you are ignorant about and sadly you are not even aware. In the UK, identity of U18 going through judicial process are never revealed as a practice. It's for the judge to decide after trial if the ID will be disclosed or not.

You said no one has a problem with immigrants who add value - just shut up! Honestly, you have no clue!

And he actually adds no value.

bemeruca:
Stabbing all over the country, and people walk freely with machetes.
Anyone with common sense will control who enters the country..

This is silly nonsense. Everyone trying to get into UK knows how controlled entry is, but here's rightwing you claiming illegal immigrants arrive at the borders with machetes.

Intelligent people here do not listen to Tommy or Chaudry because we can use our own brains to think and reason.

DevilsEqual:
What she did is 100% wrong from the moral standpoint. Is this what your feminism is about??

Empowering women and getting hit by them later in life?

You people just support your gender in sun and rain regardless of who fails who

From the moral standpoint, lol. I guess you'd also tell me she'd burn in hell, but wouldn't say much if the man took a second wife or constantly cheated on her.

What about from her own point of a need to survive and better her lot?

Have you thought your "Empowering women" is because you made women powerless in the first place?

I don't give a fuq what you think.

Brendaniel:
You lie a lot, it seems

Philipponzaghi:
Why are we always looking for protests instead of solutions? Open borders for food import? Sounds like another way to ruin local farmers' livelihoods. Let's focus on empowering our own agricultural sector instead of relying on imports. Tinubu has a vision, and I trust he knows what's best for Nigeria.

I want to be the first person to stone you and I for considering "empowering our own agricultural sector instead of relying on imports".

I propose 3 stones for myself for every one for you because you say it better than I can.

Salewa97:
Appointing a lawyer without a legal adviser? That's a recipe for disaster.

This is funny. Lol. And I'm accusing you of a typo.

Is the lawyer they appointed not their legal adviser?

The organisation also urged the president to open the land borders, particularly in the Southern part of the country for the importation of food items to bring down price.

The government should open border so farmers in other countries can find market for their labour while our own farmers stop planting because it is not worth it?

Or is it just that everyone so selfishly wants cheap food that they don't care that it exports jobs?