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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:34pm On Jan 13, 2022
feedthenation:
---GOPs from states won by Biden presented fake electoral votes documents for the Nov 3, 2020 elections certifying Trump as elected president---


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq1HGGLWdEA
I was at Ketu Busstop some almost 50+ years ago when someone starting yelling "ole, ole". Suddenly, some man was grabbed and begun to be beaten. I jumped in, as small as I was, telling everyone it was not true, and eventually, he was let go.

What had really happened and which no one saw was that the person who yelled "ole" was the ole, and only began shouting when his hand was caught in the pocket of the person he accused. And when he shouted ole, the members of the Ketu Busstop Pickpocket Association joined in to protect him.

That's what's happening here. The party of vote stealers are accusing the innocent of the crime they themselves could not yet away with.

That man, a teacher, paid my bus fare for that week, but we both had to avoid Ketu busstop for a while and walk to Ojota instead.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 5:54pm On Jan 13, 2022
TenQ:
You may be put off by the beginning of the document but please don't throw out the baby with the dirty water. Let's assume that the document was written by an overzealous scribe.
Not only overzealous, but devious too. And I am delighted you noticed. If you've been here long you'd have seen posts from Congo presented as Nigeria, and posts of atrocities that had nothing to do with Fulanis blamed on Fulanis and so on. Most people quickly believe but more evidence often reveals the lies.

Please know that buda has an error in design that makes buda not believe. If buda believed, so called Fulani Monday would not be successfully managing buda's farm in the Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 7:14am On Jan 13, 2022
TenQ:
Please have a look at this document. It was part of what was submitted by a coalition of Yoruba organisations at tthe international criminal court.. It contains some graphic videos detailing attrocities committed by those you defend so much. They say
"Eni t'o mo lo kan!"
Once bitten twice shy!



https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kjzpx62w970ob1/21.7.13%20-%20confirmation%20-%20submission%20-%20international%20criminal%20court%20-%20yoruba%20strategy%20alliance.pdf?dl=0

Let me have your views about the document.
I read part of it despite being put off by the beginning. My opinion of such is expressed in this thread. Hopefully, you know how public sentiment led to genocide in Rwanda

Fact is, quite a lot of what Fulani are being blamed for is done by our very own people, as we found with the gunmen in the East. Fulani may be kidnapping in Kaduna, but dem never yet born the Fulani to come kidnap anyone in the South. Local kidnappers wouldn't put up with the competition for starts, and we know where their cattle is if they dare.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 7:02am On Jan 13, 2022
elated177:
Do you or do you not know that "the Lord" is not the name of the Owner of the Scriptures you are always quoting?
Nobody owns the Scripture, elated, and no Lord wrote it. It is about Lords though, and lots of other folks.
Politics › Re: Its Only The Youth That Can Salvage This Country by budaatum: 10:31pm On Jan 12, 2022
Here's what responsible Nigerians do.

Politics › Re: Its Only The Youth That Can Salvage This Country by budaatum: 10:25pm On Jan 12, 2022
Bonavi:
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Are we really that foolishhuh
Yes, we are that foolish. And irresponsible too.

We claim "The politicians use ethnicity and religion to prevent us from uniting against bad governance, corruption, unemployment, hunger, police brutality etc", as if there is no brain in our heads and politicians remotely control us, when the truth is, we divide ourselves with "ethnicity and religion" instead of "uniting against bad governance, corruption, unemployment, hunger, police brutality etc".

That will change though once we realise that we are responsible for our own salvation from "bad governance, corruption, unemployment, hunger, police brutality etc", and unite to fight against it.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 9:57pm On Jan 12, 2022
elated177:
It is a simple matter, budaatum.

Do you realize that "the Lord", which is a title, was used to replace the name of the Owner of the Scripture?
No, I do not realize any such "simple matter". Scripture advises, be wary of peddlers of "simple matter".

If Scripture replaces the Lord, a [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020%3A3-5&version=ESV]fundamental commandment[/url] in said Scripture is disobeyed.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 8:45pm On Jan 12, 2022
elated177:
With all what you have filled your mind, it will not be easy for you to understand the Truth. I doubt if you haven't confused yourself completely.

Yahushua the Messiah, the Salvation of YHVH Almighty, will help you if you turn to him for deliverance.
As easy as a camel entering through the needle's eye, Christ would tell him. He can not become as a child so does not understand the Word and how it saves.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 8:40pm On Jan 12, 2022
TenQ:
She was in Kaduna working for a farm. She was kidnapped on the road while coming from the market to sell her companies products. She and her workmate were abducted and taken far into the bush. She said they walked none-stop for about 8hours.

She told us that her abductors were Fulani. They spoke Hausa language to them (they were up to 16 in number when she got there) but spoke Fulfude to themselves.

The police asked us to cooperate with them for the Ransome payment. Intact they collected money TWICE! After that first negotiation and payment, the upped their demand. It was terrible. They beat them everyday to force them to cry while they spoke with us. Her hair was scraped to show us they meant business. She was in their camp for about 10 full days.

It's a terrible experience for anyone to face my dear!

I will send you a Dropbox link as soon as ai can upload the documents.
Sorry for your plight, TenQ, but as I said, a "tiny fraction" is no reason to condemn them all.

If I were to become a kidnapper I will learn some Fulfude so that when I kidnap someone in Osun State, they'll be looking for cattle in the North instead of Yoruba me in the South.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 3:10am On Jan 12, 2022
TenQ:
I've read your post. How can I send you the PDF document. It is highly informative.

Like I told you last year, these Fulani bandits kidnapped a relation of mine. They held her until a randsom in millions were paid. Our experiences are different.

But if you can read up on the document, I will appreciate.
Where was your relative kidnapped, TenQ?

And what makes you claim they were Fulani bandits?

Since its experience close to you I'd value your responses more than a pdf, but see advice above if you insist.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 3:07am On Jan 12, 2022
shadeyinka:
How can I send a pdf document to you?
Upload to dropbox and post a link.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 3:06am On Jan 12, 2022
Amujale:
Didn't I advice you not to quote me unless you with something sensible?

Now, cease quoting me and go and troll elsewhere.
Your advice and your orders are obviously ignored.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 3:03am On Jan 12, 2022
elated177:
I am interested in the last paragraph. Are you saying that your teaching there is not occultic...not hidden...demonic?
I am saying, please elated177, you be the judge of buda.

Do note though that if buda is "hidden", you wouldn't see buda to judge.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 9:37am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
Jesus would have to exist first, don't you think so?
No I don't think so. Jesus works even as an imaginary figure in a book. Anyone who learnt anything from the very fictional Things Fall Apart would know this already.

sonmvayina:
God is just a fancy world for the universe .....lol.

This is marduk, with the universe as his garments...
No that is not Marduk! That is a picture of an ancient statue of Marduk, and like claiming a picture of Jesus is Jesus.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 9:30am On Jan 11, 2022
TenQ:
No one has said that ALL Fulani herdsmen are the so called bandits. It only takes a tiny fraction of them hiding unfortunately behind the ordinary herdsmen. Stories we hear is that ........
I guess this is why some call we Nigerians yahoo since some "tiny fraction" of yahoos are Nigerian. Its also why some say we Nigerians are thieves even though most of the Nigerians we know like our mama and papa might never have stolen anything and brought us up to not steal. I, unfortunately can't reason the way of condemning the majority because of a "tiny fraction", especially based on "stories we hear". I know what happens when the Chinese whisper.

Below is the recent "stories we hear" about Fulani's on my own farm. Make sure you read the follow up too.

budaatum:
I met Monday the day I bought my land, far in the bush right by the lake. I'd arranged to meet the land sellers at Owode and there he was, speaking proper English. They'd been chased from their land in Benue and now lived in our semi-abandoned village of Owode which is the last hamlet before my farm.

Monday, who's mother is on my Christmas list, and who has been managing my farm for the past 6 years to fund his own education, is the fulani herdsman that my lazy village people are complaining about.

Yes, Shadeyinka. buda is very extremely megabiased.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 4:03am On Jan 11, 2022
elated177:
What was your response when I called budaatum's teaching occultic?

Having a discussion with you is always something else. This is because you are always all over the place.
He definitely is all over the place and buda is definitely what has been referred to as occult. Or at least, off the beaten track.

I'm sure we'd have called Jesus occultic too though, if he were around today. His time people did said he was demonic, so not far off, don't you think?

I feel Jesus' response would be [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A10-16&version=NIV]"Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear"[/url], at least to those who seek to understand.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 10:13pm On Jan 10, 2022
sonmvayina:
What does that mean ? I have never used that word..
I believe you. The evidence is in support.

https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=+sonmvayina+Nirvana&search=Search
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 10:10pm On Jan 10, 2022
sonmvayina:
God is God

Man is man..

God can't become man

And man can't become God..

God is not a man or human being Numbers 23:19..

Jesus is a Roman idol ...has nothing to do with God.
Well, I guess that is according to your own understanding. Some of us happen to know that humans have been becoming Gods from the very beginning of time. The Pharaohs, for instance, were great Gods in their time, as Amujale could teach you if you care to know. You would find it in the Old Testament too if you care to look to understand, and in case you did not understand it from there, Christ, knowing how important that simple knowledge is and its implications, reminded those who read about him too.

Jehova is a Hebrew invention and has everything to do with God, as do the even earlier "Gods" created by Romans, along with Ogun and Sango and Allah and Shiva. A smart person might wonder why humans create Gods.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 9:59pm On Jan 10, 2022
shadeyinka:
How do you as citizens fight bandits who
1. Live in the deep forests
2. Carry Assault Rifles and Sometimes machine Guns
In the deep forest in the South, shade? Like in the deep forest in Ibadan and Enugu?

Perhaps my Yorubaness is clouding my view here, but you are Yoruba too, least going by your name.

Please, where are you from (or live)? How deep is the forest where you are from (or live)?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 9:54pm On Jan 10, 2022
sonmvayina:
I said the Messiah will lead people fo the worship and reverence of one God. The creator of the universe...Not necessary through Judaism..yorubas refers to the creator as Eledumare and the igbos as chukwu....the yorubas will worship Eledumare and the igbos will worship only chukwu ONLY.
Eledumare =chukwu = marduk = Hashem= creator of the universe...
........= Jesus Christ, to some.

I guess the question you need to first consider is, What is God, but we don't before we start adding and subtracting from what has not been established (at least a common understanding hasn't), and then we argue that we see more than others instead of admitting we read it in books and ignorantly chose to believe instead of understand what we read. You called God, the "Universal Consciousness", so you ought to respect the individual parts that make up that consciousness. It is the second commandment given by Christ, 'that you love your neighbour'.

Paul inspires me to say:

When one of you says, I am a follower of this,” and another says, “I follow that,” aren’t you acting just like the ignorant people of the world?After all, who is this? Who is that? We are only humans seeking understanding. Each of us did the research. Seeds are planted in our hearts by our reading and it grows. It’s not important who does the planting or who does the watering. What’s important is that the seed grows. The one who plants and the one who waters work together with the same purpose of increasing knowledge and enlightening. And both will be rewarded for their own hard work. For we are all workers working in the field so we may build.

Check [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%203&version=NLT]here to see how much licence I took[/url].
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 9:24pm On Jan 10, 2022
TenQ:
They are in every state of the federation herding their cattles. They migrate down to the south especially during the dry seasons to find pasture for their cattle.

Conflicts with farmers occur when they encroach into the farms!
I know this TenQ. I have had them on my farm in Osun State with their cattle, as I mentioned here. They did not have ak47s and perhaps that's why I was not afraid of them despite being all by myself, and perhaps I am special or something and known in their trade. The herders of cattle in my own part of Osun State are herding cattle for the big people in my home town. You buy a cattle and they care for it and you share its calfs between you, so if anyone's cattle eats my plantings I know who to go get my restitution from. Besides, who would dare encroach on the farm of the Child of the Basorun not to talk of kill her?

TenQ, please, where is your village (if you have one and are not just as city person)? Even in your local neighbourhood where you live, can Fulani come there and terrorise you without your area people fighting back? Dem never born the Fulani or any outsider who would come terrorise my own home town. The local terrorisers will not put up with the competition and our strong community cohesion must be a repellant, but if they dare, we will instigate a new local festival with a God that needs the sacrifice of cattles!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 8:19pm On Jan 10, 2022
Amujale:
One would need to read proper history textbooks to understand the amount of carnage that these foreign extremist ideologies are responsible for perpetrating during their introduction of these false narratives to innocent people. i.e The Destruction of Black Civilizations by Chancellor Williams.
Do note that the opinion below is a minority one. Almost eveeryone else rates in 5*.

Books like this are not historical. Cool if you want to feel good. And considering the terrible condition of African people, some just want answers outside of facts--then this book will fill your socks. But you have to ask yourself seriously now, is that all you want. This is the age of plurality of knowledge. It rejects egocentric universalism and exclusivism in the study of history.In our age we need to demonstrates that the methodology and tools that we employ are above those the colonialist used to describe us. It is fitting and reactionary for authors to make into myth the history of Africa, but that does not take us closer to the truth. The issue of race (us and them) is a modern problem created with the Atlantic slave trade. It is certainly not 4500 BC which is a ridiculous conspiracy theory.

The Title along should raise a massive red flag. Destroyed by who? Sounds like Africa plays the victim again. Also there was no "black" civilization in antiquity, and certainly no concept of "black race" to be destroyed. And someone else mentioned this habit of lumping people of Africa into a slave name--black. Axum did not agree to be part of the "black race" with Nubia. Nor did Songhai with the empires it conquered. Worse still (and related) the GREAT ISSUE OF RACE, is a modern issue, not a historical issue. Ancient Greeks did not hold the same race views as modern Americans. Actually it would have been the Very Ancient Egyptians who distinguished themselves against the people this book calls "black". And so did the Ethiopians (even til this day)

The thesis is suspect because all civilizations rise and fall and Africa had its time in the Sun. Moreover. Many agents lead to the demise of African civilizations. It cannot be explained to suit modern politics and emotion. Threading facts together and explaining them away is not history. Books like this may have empowered many, because our situation is so dire. But do we understand ourselves better? Now we have to go deeper and really start reading.

Today we have DNA, deep history, serious scholarship on the ruins of old. It is sad that people will rest on this kind of therapy. If it got you to search for Africa then it has done all it can do, do not let the quest die with this kind of material.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/125953.Destruction_of_Black_Civilization
Your "email inventor" assertion was not about email invention per se, but about the limited way in which you arrive at your conclussions.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 6:32pm On Jan 10, 2022
shadeyinka:
It seems you are not aware that the Fulani is indeginous in every state in the North-West, North-Central, North-East and the North Central.

How do you as citizens fight bandits who
1. Live in the deep forests
2. Carry Assault Rifles and Sometimes machine Guns

I believe you didn't read this news;
https://www.nairaland.com/6928767/bandits-kill-147-vigilantes-anka/3#up
Are they in the deep forest in Enugu and Ibadan too or is it the locals terrorising and kidnapping in those places?
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 6:20pm On Jan 09, 2022
shadeyinka:
Behaving like the ostrich doesnt change the truth on ground.

BTW:
No one has said that ALL Fulani herdsmen are bandits: far from it.
What we have clearly said is that: many of that class of people have turned violent and are causing mayhems about the nation.

Who are those who rustle cows?
Is it not these same people?
And I am telling you you are wrong. Nigeria is a huge country, and the local mayhem creators in certain parts of it would very not welcome competition. See the map below and tell me how Fulani can be the bandits there.

Those who rustle cattle are thieves stealing from the cow owners. If they were Fulani rustling from Fulani it would have easily been resolved in their community where chopping off thief's hands is not so much frowned upon.

Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 3:15pm On Jan 09, 2022
shadeyinka:
Please, don't be overly biased.
It is a know truth that we now have a new class of so-called Bandits who specialize in kidnapping, and murders. They are mainly of the Cattle herding Fulani Stock. The Baptist students kidnap of a few weeks ago is a classic example of Government inaction and insensitivity to the problem.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/11/26/bandits-demand-n99m-ransom-for-release-of-66-abducted-baptist-church-members/
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/bandits-northwest-nigeria-release-15-students-after-parents-raise-ransom-2021-08-22/

Maybe the proper question is this:
Why did these people become a refugee in their own country?. As far as I know, there is no War in Nigeria except the Bokoharam (who are in the North-East of Nigeria)
If I were not biased, hard working trustworthy supposed Fulani herdsman Monday would not be working and profiting from my farm, my lazy village people that I am biased against, will. And they are the kidnappers in my own village because no Fulani or any other outsider dare kidnap anyone there. And I can't just abandon my own personal experiences and start ignorantly believing the media or my village people instead because I have a mind and a brain and the ability to use it.

They are refugees because bandits in various forms have attacked them and their farm land and the Fulani's cattle, which is why they seek refuge down South.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:17am On Jan 09, 2022
ono:
OK. I'll make it a simple question, again.

What's Jesus about in this passage of the scripture? I'll accept if you say you don't know. It's fine. We are not expected to know everything. We have UFOs out there that many are still trying to solve their mysterious sightings. Abi?

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." John 6: 47-51
Verily I say unto you, those who seek understanding of the book with their own heart and soul and mind and with the aid of the Holy Spirit and Ghost and Comforter he will send you when he returns to his Father to help you, you will have a better more comfortable fruitful journey through life than those who remain ignorant and enslaved like Adam.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 3:08am On Jan 09, 2022
Amujale:
So you admit the character is a fictional character.

Then, what exactly is the point of contention?
Amujale, you contend because you stick your fingers in your ears and do not see nor read nor listen.

Fictional, yes. And my favorite fictional part of it all is the fictional Garden of Eden where fictional Adam did not surely die on the day that he ate the fictional fruit of the fictional tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but his eyes were opened by fictional wise seeking Eve, and we read that they then went on to live for another 800 years during which they are written to have populated the earth.

The poor in spirit believe it while the wise understand and are grateful that some bothered to reveal that story which originated in Egypt where some were kept in ignorant bliss by fear of death just as they are today.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 2:59am On Jan 09, 2022
Amujale:
Africans invented the concepts of Numeracy and Literacy.
Talking about inventions, were you not supposed to provide credible evidence for your assertion about the inventor of email?

That said, and even if your baseless assertion is true, I hope you understand how far the entire world has contributed to "concepts of Numeracy and Literacy". I mean, just look at you and I, using foreign literacy (technology) to discuss in 'foreign language of misery' instead of our own language! Abi Amujalẹ ki se Yoruba ni?

Learning evolves, Amu. Egyptians wrote on stone columns in heiroglyph most called the Words of the Gods. A single letter took weeks, sometimes months and a single error was not easily fixed with rubber or tippex. Thankfully, they evolved to papyrus and stopped needing slaves to write on stone for them, but unfortunately the Gods stopped dictating the Words and the Egyptians stopped writing and even forgot how to read the Words of the God's on the columns of stone. And the slaves couldn't read either, being just copy artists, they completely lacked understanding, but they cobbled up what they could from what they had and voila! Out of Egypt came what we know today as the Holy Bible and thousands of equally old and informative books and the device you are communicating with me with.

Its not the enemy, Amu, it's just a book. And we read books from antiquity to see where it has come from and how it got to where it is today so we can learn to do greater things than have been done instead of starving on the glory of past inventions.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 11:58pm On Jan 08, 2022
Amujale:
Christianity and Islam are the worst ideologies ever to set foot on African soil.

How can these foreign extremist ideology that brought about nothing but misery, poverty, pain and death be the road to anything African? How?
You missed out, English, and Arabic, and books, and reading, and organised learning with your senses and eyes open, which are very not ideologies at all.

Or do you wanna claim the Religions of Books have not reduced your misery?
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 11:53pm On Jan 08, 2022
shadeyinka:
I think those few bandits with AK47 were enough to steal, kill and destroy.

Dont you think you are being biased with the report you got from your farm in Benue State?
The person close to the land told you that these squatters were Fulani (they didnt have to be the violent ones amongst them), but you several thousand kilometers away was sure they were not Fulani.
FYI: many Fulani herders don't have cows of their own. The hire out their services to the rich and powerful Fulani cow owners.
I met Monday the day I bought my land, far in the bush right by the lake. I'd arranged to meet the land sellers at Owode and there he was, speaking proper English. They'd been chased from their land in Benue and now lived in our semi-abandoned village of Owode which is the last hamlet before my farm.

Monday, who's mother is on my Christmas list, and who has been managing my farm for the past 6 years to fund his own education, is the fulani herdsman that my lazy village people are complaining about.

Yes, Shadeyinka. buda is very extremely megabiased.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 11:42pm On Jan 08, 2022
Amujale:
I suppose boredom has got the better of you, defend your fictional character, you can't defend.
buda should defend a fictional character in a book?

Amu is very funny.
Crime › Re: Bandits Kill 147 Vigilantes In Anka, Zamfara State by budaatum: 5:51pm On Jan 08, 2022
shadeyinka:
Really!?
So there were no Fulani Cow herding Bandits in the South!
So, what was the problem of Sunday Adeyemo (Igboho): Was he chasing an imaginary enemy?
Why did the South-Western Governors established the Amotekun Corps?
There may have been a few, as I mentioned the last time we discussed this but nowhere near as many as was claimed and not as much as has been terrorising the North.

I received notice last month that displaced people from Benue State were squatting on my land, though the person who informed me ignorantly called them Fulani herdsmen despite their being farmers with no cattle.

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