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Netochi:
You nailed it, my daughter would have succeeded with her sister but that one na akpo, she no dy hear but she kind of trying to succeed with her brother

Well, in you I see one blessed with the Wisdom to fix this. My Faith in you is unshakable.

paxonel:
They all have internal meaning which are hidden to Christians reading these passages today, unfortunately.

See! It sure takes a lot of asking and knocking and seeking to find that which is hidden.

In fact, it takes a lot of asking and knocking and seeking to even realise that something might be hidden and needs to be searched for in the first place!

Those who do not ask and knock and seek for that which is hidden will merely believe and tremble like those who build their faith on sand.

Your Faith, Paxonel, is built on the Solid Rock of Understanding.

paxonel:
Thsnks buda!

You are wonderful

Aba Paxonel! It is you that is the wonderful one that started this wonderful thread after doing the wonderful work, so please do not be stealing from your wonderful glory and be giving it to that undeserving buda, lol!

rick1dude:
Have you noticed that VPNs, no longer connecting, i have tried a few, with the same result.

Who is your telco?

Netochi:
My daughter in the other hand will always attack her younger siblings in her favour

Not only is your daughter suffering from the effects of her cousin making her feel inferior, but she is doing to her own siblings exactly what her cousin is doing to herself to make them feel inferior too.

The good thing is "it makes her withdrawn most times and she complains to me", which shows she does not like it when done to her so should not be doing it to her siblings.

You just need to learn how to fit the [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+18%3A21-35&version=KJV]Parable of the Unforgiven Servant[/url] into a lesson for your daughter, and she will be healed, because the mere fact that you have noticed it early is God's Grace in itself.

paxonel:
So, the only demand of your faith in Christ is to believe, which you have already done.

Sorry Pax, but it is not belief that you have shown here, but an understanding of the Word gained through your faith in Christ.

There was indeed a time when you merely believed. But you had faith that that which you believed was true. And now, having tested that which you believed by faith by asking and knocking and seeking with all your heart and your soul and your mind and your being, you have received an understanding and you now know it is true, and you have created a thread to help us understand too.

So, thank you for doing the work and for increasing our understanding.

BassReeves:
You are putting the cart before the horse. Adam and Eve are test objects. The Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil is just a testing tool

The platform under testing were Adam and Eve. The tree is not an object of testing nor ever was it, a platform under testing. There is no grounds for anyone to be testing the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, or be willing to test the tree my dear friend budaatum.

I advised you to read this and will advise you read it again!

Now please read what you wrote above and test for me if you will, the sense it makes to yourself!

"Adam and Eve are test objects. The Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil is just a testing tool", yet "There is no grounds for anyone to be testing the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, or be willing to test the tree".

If the tree is a "testing tool" and if Adam and Eve are "test objects", why would the tester not test the tool?

Do note that Eve was very very willing to test what Adam was told and test the tree she did!

BassReeves:
To you it might be standing free, but was it expressed to Adam or Eve that it is free to eat from?

Did you at all read my answer, Bass? I'll repeat it so you can read it again!

"No the tree was not freely given to Adam and Eve to eat from, for while it was standing free in the Garden, Adam, we read, was specifically forbidden to eat thereof or he would die on the day that he does."

BassReeves:
Wrong answer, you gave because correct answer is yes, it was out of bounds for them to eat of.

A tree that was standing free in the garden was out of bounds, Bass?

How!? Was there barbwire keeping it out of bounds, or dogs perhaps, making it unreachable and out of bounds?

BassReeves:
Eve needed to have inculcated some self restraint, self control, self discipline and strong self will

Why should "Eve needed to have inculcated some self restraint, self control, self discipline and strong self will", when you claim the tree she was "needed to have inculcated some self restraint, self control, self discipline and strong self will" to not touch, was out of bounds as you claim?

Do you need to have "inculcated some self restraint, self control, self discipline and strong self will" to not reach out and touch something I place out of your bounds of you reaching out and touching it?

BassReeves:
She desired having something good, but went the wrong way, wrong time and on wrong side of God, wrong terms or standing with God in getting it

Really now? Would you kindly like to inform me what she desired and what she got please, and what sort of God that was that would rather Eve not have those "something good"?

BassReeves:
Are you a learner? Dont you know that everything is seasonal? That there is a time for everything? Thats Bible 101 nah, there is a time for everything and a season for every activity under the heavens etc

I wonder why you'd think it was not the right season for Eve to have eaten the fruit she ate. Is it because you have not yet accepted that Eve must have eaten a ripe fruit perhaps?

PrideofLincoln2:
You that is educating them daily, how far have you gone with your educating them. The more you educate them, the worse they get. You and I had this same discussion about the little midget with 15 monikers telling me you are educating him and we see you did a good job turning him into a smart guy that calls women prostitutes, kitten stinker and all kind of names like the N word with every sentence.
Keep educating them Professor Buddha.

You keep letting them yank your chain instead of outwitting them with the intelligence of your mind.

Sigh.

BassReeves:
Fyi, I am not a Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil tester, and testing the tree is not part of my purview.

I am going to have to ask you to please forgive me BassReeves, for wondering what the heck you might be doing in a thread that is specifically for the purview of those whom Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil testing or not testing is in their purview!?

Might I suggest you kindly park your self by the side and watch those who are willing to test or not test please.

Thank you immensely in advance.

PrideofLincoln2:
Hungry skunk, your life is descending into hell and you are foaming in the mouth about a guy who doesn't give a fvck about your subhuman existence in life.

What is wrong with you? The guy yanks your chain and you just fall for it time and time again like the puppet on his string! Do you not yet understand that is precisely what he wants you to do to make his day?

I swear, you give far too much of a fuq, you this Mr Umudike, and I am going to start reporting you for derailing the thread instead of educating or ignoring the magas.

BassReeves:
Please help me out here.
1. Was the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil freely given to Adam and Eve to eat from? Yes or No

No the tree was noy freely given to Adam and Eve to eat from, for while it was standing free in the Garden, Adam, we read, was specifically forbidden to eat thereof or he would die on the day that he does.

BassReeves:
2. Was the tree clearly out of bounds? Yes or No

No. The tree was not out of bounds. It was there in the Garden in bounds, which is why Eve had no trouble plucking its fruit and eating it.

BassReeves:
Selfish desire for something that clearly isnt for neither her or her husband that she implicated to have at that point of time

What was that something that was desired?

According to what or whom was it not "that point of time", and why?

zikclassiq:
Feeling your pain bro. But that's quite a statement!

What pain? Do you think I will give you Jesus blood without first drinking myself?

You are funny!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4qPsRbeWE

BassReeves:
I would like to believe that I wouldnt though, if knowing how I am cut, I'll probably be asking, asking and asking question until I get to a cul de sac and correct answer, even get answer from the horse' mouth directly and not really depend on hearsay nor rely on second or third parties dem says.

Now! Thank you.

You say, "get a correct answer, even get answer from the horse' mouth directly and not really depend on hearsay nor rely on second or third parties dem says".

Could you please tell me how you'd get a "correct answer" if you do eat and test with your own mouth?

Would all other answers barring testing for yourself not be "second or third parties dem says"?

Know that marks will be deducted if you post irrelevants!

BassReeves:
If I should enter your flat without your invitation or permission, went in to refrigerator, help myself to whatever delicacies in there I want to have the experience, knowledge and wisdom of from chomping them, please help me out here, what would be the reason the press, public, passing-bys etc will give about me.

First, Adam and Eve did not enter the Garden of Eden without permission! Second, I am not asking the press or what the press might have told you! Please see here for an understanding that I am asking that you use your own God given brain and mind, if you can.

BassReeves:
You surely must have heard the saying that: You cant scam nor con a good man or woman, but you feed their greed. It will be because of greed that they will fall for your scam or con.

Even if I were to accept the above, which I don't, the question still remains, "greed for what" did Eve have?

Sorry Bass, but we really can not proceed like this. The question posed are simple questions, and I do not really appreciate the attempt to use too much words to avoid answering it, but if and when you do answer, hola at buda please.

HappyPagan:
I don't know much about the origin of consciousness.. I haven't studied well enough on that matter.

Perhaps you might understand that you are not the only one the above applies to, and that most, intentionally or because they've been told to, fill the gap with an entity they refer to as God onto which they weave their web of growing understanding through extensive further study.

The smarter humans just don't settle for any images of the web that has been woven for them to believe or that they have woven for themselves because they understand.

UnivoD:
God will help us

Actually, God has already helped us by giving us his only begotten Son to kill. It is now time to use the blood we got from the sacrifice to help ourselves!

HappyPagan:
You are the joke. You are using Vpn. I'm using Jesus. Get there behind me Satan.

Oh Lord God please when shall people see that when one says, "I follow Vpn," and another says, "I follow Jesus," they are still mere human beings?

HappyPagan:
I have been trying to connect to Twitter today.. the thing is not loading..

So I reached for the Master key Jesus.. I prayed and casted. I sang for a few minutes...deep deep worship.. and lo and behold , now I can browse.

Glory hallelujah.

Yes, I used Jesus to connect to Twitter today, Jesus not being "I prayed and casted. I sang for a few minutes...deep deep worship" as you erroneously think, but the Wisdom that made me seek out a vpn to get around the barriers that were set up to prevent me from connecting to Twitter, and that I've included in the link so you too may use some Jesus to connect to Twitter too!

LordReed:
Buda my dear buda. LoL

What, my Lord? Lol!

Seriously, it's the same thing going on in this thread.

Observe for a while before commenting please my Lord, unless its to answer the initial question posed.

BassReeves:
Genesis 3:6
'And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was delightful to look at, and a tree to be desired in order to make one wise and insightful,
she took some of its fruit and ate it; and she also gave some to her husband with her, and he ate.'

Genesis 3:6
'When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food
and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it.
She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.'

Genesis 3:6
'The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious,
and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it.
Then she gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too.'[/i]'

She clearly is saying she wanted the experience, knowledge and/or even wisdom eating from the the tree, the fruit would give her.

"She wanted the experience, knowledge and/or even wisdom eating from the tree the fruit would give her"!

Now, how does that fit in with your previous reasons which were "due to pride, disobedience, thievery, covetousness, narcissism, vanity, self-centredness etc"?

How does "experience, knowledge and/or even wisdom eating from the tree the fruit would give her", correlate with "due to pride, disobedience, thievery, covetousness, narcissism, vanity, self-centredness etc"?

And before you respond, can I implore you to first read this again please.

BassReeves:
budaatum, you've heard the saying: We are our worst enemy. Our enemy, is the, inner me.

If tbh with you I cant possibly give you a definite answer except for if I am living the exact moment.

The first statement is likely more profound than you think. Just think of the enmity between snakes and humans. The second is however you being your worst enemy, as it shows you fear to confront the truth in yourself.

So let me be a serpent and tempt you again because I am certain you can give a definite answer but are just afraid to like sonm initially was.

Bassreeves, If you were in the Garden of Eden would you be like Adam and not eat of the fruit of a tree called the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? Or will you be like Eve and pluck of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and eat?

Once you have become bold and have answered the question above, the next part is Why would you eat, or Why would you not eat?

LordReed:
I don't get the impression this author thinks trade was a big reason for Muhammend's actions is what I am highlighting. Instead it does seem establishment of the religion was the most potent reason for his actions.

You "don't get the impression".

I fully respect that my Lord because it is not quite my style to impose an impression on a person since impressions are influenced by ones perception, mine being that of greedy bastards playing holier than thou, just as it was in the beginning and forever will likely be.

Know that I will make fun of you my Lord, if and when your impression changes.

LordReed:
From the book:

WHAT plans Muhammad and Abu Bakr were making on the road that led them to the city we do not know. It is unlikely that they had any clear vision of the future or that they reckoned all the consequences of their emigration. They were certainly glad to be able to settle down at last in an environment friendly to their beliefs and to their action. Their ambitions probably went no further than making Medina a centre from which the belief in Allah as the One God should spread out to cover a large area of Arabia. They may also have dreamed pending the just punishment which Allah would surely inflict on the unbelieving city - of exacting a more limited and human vengeance on their account.

Have you got the book?

There's a lot more in the book than that my Lord, and I do not just expect you to take the words ("Lord Lord" alone but their implications (fruits) too. (That, by the way is what we learn from reading the Bible, "in spirit" so to speak, and not just the surface meaning of the words).

Note from what you quoted he says "we do not know", and he intelligently says "Their ambitions probably went no further", which is speculation that gives sufficient space for you to think of other probabilities going much further, especially since he even suggests they "may also have dreamed". If they dreamed once, it would not be wrong to think they might dreamed other dreams too, of wealth for instance, or glory.

It is those sort of comments that make that book one of my favourites on the subject, that and the fact that Maxine was borderline atheistic (though he is described as being agnostic). He does not write for you to believe but for you to use your mind in order to gain an understanding, and it is why I so admire Muhammed, dare I say.

benalvino2:
You didn't dislike his ability to breath in oxygen? You could just say I hate him because I was told to hate him by cnn and BBC

Have you changed your mind about buda or something? because I thought we agreed that buda has a brain and a mind and knows how to use it, so why should I lie and claim "I hate him because I was told to hate him by cnn and BBC"?

BassReeves:
Gotcha and I am with you now then

I beg to differ, because going by the evidence and by Eve's own self admission, she clearly revealed her reasons for plucking the fruit, eat it and pass rest on to her husband Adam.

Please BassReeves, I am buda. If a thing is as clear as you claim, I have immense faith that you will place it before me to see for myself, so please show me Eve's "clearly revealed reason" so I may see it for myself.

BassReeves:
If I am going to be straight and honest with you, I figured that the telling and meaningful name of the tree, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, was what confused and compelled Eve to partly have that strong desire to eat of it

You are saying something here Bass, and I would like you to "be straight and honest" and follow through.

If you were in the Garden of Eden would you be like Adam and not eat of the fruit of a tree called the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil because you believe that on the day that you eat it you will surely die? Or will you be like Eve and pluck of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and eat to find out if you will surely die or not on the day that you eat it?

benalvino2:
Very inconsistent. Budaatum has said severally that Trump's handling of covid is one reason he dislikes trump but look at him making excuse for nonsense

The evidence of my dislike for drumptf long before covid is in this thread! I disliked his untrickle down tax cuts for the already wealthy! I disliked his ineffective wall! I disliked his discrimination against trans and gays! I disliked his fake pandering to the evangelicals! I disliked his "fine people on both sides"! I disliked his thinking he'd get away with shooting someone on a New York street! I disliked his Obama was unAmerican and a Muslim! I disliked his pandering to populism and lied. I disliked the fact he wanted to control my womb instead of his own prik! His handling of covid is just more evidence of his incompetence, which is what I generally dislike about him!

LordReed:
Lemme illustrate the way i see this subject with food. You would agree with me that the main reason you eat food is to survive however there are other aspects of eating food that provide motivation to go through with the rigour of purchase and preparation. Things like taste, flavour, texture even visual beauty add to the experience and make you want to do it again and again. Do these additional impetus mean your goal of survival has been superceded? No they don't. I will acknowledge that some foods you eat purely for the taste and not survival but still your goal of survival remains intact. Religious wars had other objectives but those objectives did not subtract the central goal which was religious domination or retaliation.

See the reason I've been given for eating a fruit, and my response.

One may be full already and just be eating because one is a greedy pig!

BassReeves:
budaatum, being that according to your admission you created this thread for your schooling, then it'll be appropriate that the thread's title heading be 'budaatum get to school' as opposed to the current 'somn goes to school'

The title of the thread was "Sonm Schools buda", or something of the like, but his silly attitude and inability to answer simple questions made me change it to what it currently is because it is more accurate.

BassReeves:
Eve's reasons for eating the fruit were due to pride, disobedience, thievery, covetousness, narcissism, vanity, self-centredness etc.

And the above is untrue! Eve's reason for eating the fruit was simply because she did not believe what Adam had told her and she rightly wanted to test for herself if it was true that she would die or not, which is why I give credit to Sonm for eating it too, though it contradicts his "obey the Torah"!

Good to see some people are helping to fight for our democratic right to freely express ourselves!

And no, the irony of twitter silencing buharis right to freely express himself is not exactly lost on me though I think buhari's tweet was very ill advised, and is the sort of thing he should have said to bokoharam.

Now we know why they banned twitter! Its like dem say Dangote ban sugar so he can sell him own sugar, lol, but Dangote sugar at least get 3 star I think, unlike this app that is just about getting one.

KnownUnknown:
I would PAY YOU to say it. The guy has tried to insult me before with that “did you finish primary 6/ss3” line and I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

What was my crime? I followed his wriggles to their retard3d conclusion.

Don't mind him. He does not seem to realise that he is not as smart nor as knowledgeable as he thinks he is, and that his actual lack of knowledge is glaringly obvious. Just see how he danced around and avoided answering my questions because he knows he would corner himself.

Good thing is, from now on, whenever he behaves like the nursery school kid that he really is I can bring him back here to be schooled, lol.