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gensteejay:
Your opinion. I didn't type that post for you to believe or disbelieve the claim I made.

What I stated is something I have experienced a number of times over the years. Whether you believe or disbelieve that is none of my business.

I don't have any business with whatever dreams you had. You can keep your dreams out of my mention.

I did not expect you would philosophise, gensteejay. Nor was I mistaken enough to consider that you would ask buda to believe or disbelieve.

In your dreams do you get to dictate who mentions you, gensteejay, because in your personal experience your dreams is fact.

armyofone:
He didn't really put America first - they are all the same -
The poor man feels it.

America is put first. It always does and always will. You research what US gets in return and see.

Bluebyrd:
Democrats are sending:
$700 million to Sudan

It is US Congress that is sending.
Read what they get in return.

https://www.reuters.com/article/sudan-usa-int-idUSKBN28W0FZ

ono:
So, all these rants is about the man's business? Who told you we like Trump because of his business dealings? How dumb can all these leftist, short-sighted, Biden ass licking goons be? You think I like Trump because of his personality and/or business dealings? You are indeed lost and possibly irredeemable.

And I thought I'm about to engage a reasonable one among the crazy lot.

Basically, his character does not matter to you?

I bet you'd put new wines in old bottles too because you are the "reasonable one among the crazy lot"?

ZooOga:
you guys are just too fast oo. i thought i had the latest scoop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EOI5sp6tRM

This is good. People like our dear missing since soon after the election Olaadegbu who worships Pat Robertson can now start campaigning for President Kamala.

Biden should resign in year 2 by the way. And we must be seeing a Presidential Kamala by end of year one.

raumdeuter:
If a Pastor can make this type of bold faced U turn from following Trump, how much more regular politicians that are not held to any moral standard

Wait till after Jan 20 and you will see the real friends of Trump

It will be like biblical Peter where some will say they have never spoken to Trump before

I so love you

feedthenation:
---Trump latest whining on twitter about a judge being disloyal to him---

He must have thought it was quid pro quo.

bayelsaowei:
he is soon to be called a RINO

Shows how powerful the Democrats have become if they've converted Bill Barr have a consience.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12861498_notable02314_jpegfc8266c6944cd1445586ee24e184df2a

Timiofak:
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1341078245878472706?s=21

Ono

I know you love news from Newsmax, watch this please

Please.

They should be sued. As a matter of duty to the nation.

sanpipita:
Church will be against abortion and talk it down, till its time to benefit from an innovation created from foetus cells, one of reasons it makes me sick people who talked down vaccines are getting it if not first.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-vatican-idUSKBN28V1HV?

Death has always made the religious evolve their dogmatic archaic ideas. Blissful heaven may be on the other side but no one is ever in a hurry to sing with angels so they'll abandon belief instead.

HellVictorinho:
Both religion and spirituality are unnecessary

Define "religion". Define "spirituality".

Let us compare and reason then see if they are necessary or not.

chic2pimp:
Congrats Lewis the BBC SPORTS PERSONALITY OF THE YEAR 2020. It's only a matter of time before He gets given a Knighthood.

They don't show Formula One free to air in UK. You must pay Sky to watch it. I can't help wonder that if a Jenson Button or a David Coulthard was doing so much winning television will find the money to show it for free.

With my deepest apologies. I do not mean to seem rude.

gensteejay:
Personally, I have had dreams over the years where I saw some dead relatives and got some information from them.

These are some of my personal experiences that convinced me that there's life after death and that consciousness (soul) is immortal.

buda often dreams that buda has a million dollars in the bank. Therefore buda is convinced that buda is a millionaire.

gensteejay:
I also follow scientific research on consciousness-related issues and know their limitations.

I agree that you know. You have clearly shown the "limitation of research on consciousness-related issues". I hope that is why you therefore endeavour to do further "research on consciousness-related issues".

gensteejay:
However, I'm aware that for others to take this personal experience of mine as a fact, it needs to be verifiable (by others).

Don't you mind those others. I have the same problem with them. Whenever I go to shop with my personal experience of mine as a fact million dream dollars, I'm having trouble convincing anyone to sell anything to me. They stupidly insist that my dreams are not facts, as if they know what they talking about, and I always return home empty handed with nothing!

gensteejay:
A person might see past humans like Sango, Osun, and co, who were deified in the past as god/goddess, in a dream or meditation, but he/she could choose to call them other names like ETs or beings in other dimensions (parallel worlds).

I think a person might think they saw the past humans like Sango, Osun and co, though those who know the Yoruba Gods will tell you Sango and Osun do not have human forms because they are spirits, but since me myself is a dream dollar millionaire, can I possibly say they did not see the "facts" they saw in their dreams?

gensteejay:
OtemAtum is one guy I find very interesting. Having read his book, I can say there are many historical facts in it.

But there are many parts of the book that I can't say whether they're real or fictional.

However, 3 important reasons why I can't consider the histories in the book as a mere personal experience is due to the Seriot language he brought, the local histories in the book, and the etymology of various names in the Bible, Qur'an, and other historical figures.

The Seriot language is wondrous and looks like a natural language. I first learned the language in 2018 and am still learning it.

I think Otem is not writing what is real. Nor is Otem writing fiction or history or personal experience. Otem is writing Atum, and Otem is using Words to open eyes and minds.

gensteejay:
I don't honestly think the brain of one guy can manufacture the histories in that book with that depth and the natural language (Seriot). It looks highly impossible.

They say, the person at the bottom of a mountain can not see as far as the person at the top.

I, buda, bow to the Great Mind of OtemAtum!

Again, I apologise.

HellVictorinho:
Nobody can specify what is outside the universe but I know that there are infinite things outside it towards the absence of nothing/nothingness.
In other words,it is impossible for NOTHING to exist!!!

One must listen to hear oneself.

"No one can specify", but HellVictorinho specifies that "there are infinite things outside it towards the absence of nothing/nothingness" because HellVictorinho specifies that "it is impossible for NOTHING to exist".

Can you tell what you understand from the above if I say, some one must obviously exist to be specifying or there would be no specification. Therefore, "no one" must exist, since someone specified, twice?

You might need to not think Gods, and disbelieve, as in let your mind do the work to get a meaning for you from what is said above. If you can, tell us what your mind tells you it understands.

P.s. Anyone may participate in this exercise.

LordReed:
I concur my dear buda. May we continue to eat the fruit of knowledge.

And feed it too.

Kobojunkie:
I still don't understand why you continue to assert that Adam and Eve where slaves, not we're they prisoners in the garden.

Nowhere in the story are you informed that they were barred from leaving Eden..matter of fact, we learn much later that there were no gatekeepers until after their deed and this was to keep them out of Eden, not lock them in.

They were just ignorant, ba?

They didn't know how they arrived at the point they discovered themselves at and a God said, "Remain ignorant", and that is not slavery enough for you, you see no chains?

You, however, seek to be free so you seek to question to understand. buda rejoices.

Kobojunkie:
They did not complain of their unclothedness until shame overcame them as a result of their disbelief of God's words

You mean, until after their eyes were opened by the knowledge they had consummed, then they were ashamed, no?

I seriously can not believe you can possibly be telling buda to not use the brain that the Lord God Almighty placed in buda's thick skull to shield buda's mind but buda must wait to be "informed"!

It is not possibly that you are saying that to buda so I will wait patiently for you inform me please and see shame.

LordReed:
My dear budaatum what do you think of this:

People don't want the stress of engaging their brains to figure things out in the ever evolving complex interaction we call life. Rather they want rules that define how they live and absolve themselves of responsibility of thinking.

I do not agree at all, my Lord, for it is not that "People don't want", but that they have been programmed to believe they must not engage their brains, because if they engage their brain how would they be exploited and enslaved?

And that is why the story of Adam and Eve is such an amazing myth and why we must thank the Gods for the priviledge of reading it. For while it is used to shut down the brains of the unthinking, it opens the minds of those who eat.

Are the Gods not indeed so loving and infinitely wise?

Savagethe21st:
bro long time, hope u've been okay. I still enjoy reading your posts from time to time

You make me learn. I am most honoured.

Tnx supermod.

Martian:
Buda doesn’t believe unless it’s convenient for him to quote the book to support his assumptions. If you don’t believe the book, why argue about it’s interpretation?

You make me bang my head against the wall. Is this what they taught you in Martian school?

If a person quotes that "the area of the square whose side is the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the areas of the squares on the other two sides", do you also assume it is only because they must believe it?

What if they are architects who have built bridges with derivatives of the quote, is it also because they believe it too, or because they have tested it and found it to be so because they have evidence and know instead and understand that which they quote?

I better not quote "to be or not to be" or you'd probably say one must be a question.

Martian:
E.g Garden of Eden. You and Dtruthspeaker have an argument going on about what really happened or what the story is supposed to mean. The only people that try to ascribe any meaning to that story are believers of Judaism and Christianity.

Who told you that you have to be a "believer of Judaism and Christianity" to interpret the Bible? Did they also brainwash your head that you must believe Okonkwo struck down Ikemefuna or things will fall apart?

Did you yourself not call them myths, Martian? If so, perhaps all I need to do to read a book of myths and understand what I read is a brain in my skull and the ability to use it, don't you think?

Martian:
To anybody else, it’s just a Jewish cultural myth that doesn’t have any hidden meaning or significance.
I mean, would you argue about the meaning of thetans or the significance of xenu?

First, please. I have already educated you on your over generalisations and I'm hurt that you insist. You are Martian.I do not want to need to continue to educate you that you are not just "anybody else"!

On thetans and xenu, I'm afraid they were missing on the curriculum I studied, but I'm certain there's a library somewhere with books on the subject if the need ever arises that I have to inform myself.

Martian:
To put the goal post back in place for the benefit of the paying audience. The question was not about world floods but one specific story in the Hebrew bible, to wit Noah’s Flood.

Was Noah's flood not described as a whole of the earth flood in your book of myths?

If there really are other world floods a person who uses their mind might wonder why they are not in the Bible and which God then caused them, but I guess you have not been given permission to interpret and understand what you read. Is that why you have no opinion on the matter too, after all, you are a Martian and not a "believer of Judaism and Christianity", or are you?

shadeyinka:
Far inbetween!
I've chatted with some guys on in on NL but the truth is that few people are analytic with respect to deeper things involving Nigeria and her economy.

Seems you see what I mean, and hope you find that disturbing. Are you surprised si many are wailing bubu? What about our own brains? Are they not needed? Are we such dunces? We really should be asking!

shadeyinka:
As for me, I advocate "A Systematic Import Substitution Economy" with active utilization of Nigerian's intellectual and Human resources to solve local problems and supply needs. It is imperative that we wean ourselves from importation (with it we impoverish ourselves and farm out jobs to exporting nations)

I'm getting tired of these wailers.

I wonder if you could think about it a bit more, add some flesh to it then start a thread where I can join you to discuss if only so next time we can both point to one single thread where we can say we discussed a sound economic principle please?

It will make my week not go wasted.

joxxy01:
But trust me Bro... you never made any valid sense.. not even one, just dodging from the truth.. Good night

You mean, it made no sense to you.

Are we not happy you are not the only one reading here?

joxxy01:
Whaoooo I laugh, I now know who you are.... no point arguing. I now know you.

Glad you laughed. Don't stop there though. Work plenty de, or we will be wailing still like lazy fuqs long after we kick out my bubu.

shadeyinka:
I guess you know that the borders are now opened!

But, is closing of borders a sound economic principle?
Was there any form of guarantee for your farm produce?

All this government know how to do is to BORROW money and SHARE money in the name of Tradermoni and co!

Thoroughly disappointed in this government.

Of course its not sound economic anything! It is absolutely absurd! But as I said, show me one economic principle that 3 million of us Nigerians have ever discussed on here. I don't mind if its unsound even, just one.

PrideofLincoln2:
Those two guys have mental problems and they disguised it with Trump's ass licking with no equal. Those two rabble rousers love Trump more than Melania and Ivanka.

They must be the only ones

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/ivanka-trump-dow-greenhouse-gasses-tweets?itm_content=footer-recirc

celwonder:
You jst confirmed my suspicion.

Do av a nice day.

Regards

Thank you. And you too.

shadeyinka:
Please what special economic principle has he used since he took over?

Buhari? Border closure. Buhari closed the border and made it profitable for me to grow rice. There might be others, but that's the only one I can recall at this moment. Perhaps others might help please, but it tells you lot's, don't it. About our collective ignorance. Afterall, he is not the only brain in Nigeria, or is he?

Look at us here, on the largest Nigerian forum with our almost 3 million brains. Show me the "special economic principle" we have bothered to discuss. Just one will do. Perhaps you'll understand how so ignorant we really are and help reduce that ignorance by next election.

joxxy01:
Imagine what this one is saying, force education down whose throat?? Beside what then is Buhari's work as a President? maybe u should school me... Okay I called my self to duty by owning a farm where I cultivate to provide food for the country and increase GDP...

Who send you? Do you not have a family? Don't you like good things? Why are you not simply providing the food on your farm for your own belly and that of your family?

joxxy01:
and then some backward thinking Fulani and their cattle comes to my farm to graze all that I have labored for after " calling my self to duty" and then even threaten my life... what do u call that,

And that cattle did not fall down dead?

But why will "Fulani and their cattle" not "come to my farm to graze all that I have labored for after "calling my self to duty" and then even threaten my life"?

Can you tell me the difference between the "Fulani and their cattle", and your "duty by owning a farm where I cultivate to provide food for the country and increase GDP", because, honestly speaking, they look like the same thing to me, and you should really be handling it over without them needing to threaten you.

On my farm, when Fulani ate my cassava, I informed them very strongly that I work for my cassava like they work for their meat so if they let their cattle eat my cassava they must understand its like I eat their cattle so I went to their oga and demanded payment for my cassava and got it.

Ok, I understand you might not have the powers I have accumulated, and my farm is in Osun State where Fulani and cattle is not overwhelming me, and we are organised in my town, and nobody born the Fulani who will try such a thing because boys know where they live and will just kill their cattle in retaliation. Still, wherever I am, so far its not North, I am sure me and all the other cassava growers can pull together and resist. Abi dem no get jujuman for your area so their cattle die?

Where in Nigeria is your farm, joxxy01?

joxxy01:
and to add more salt to injury their number one Patron seating in Aso villa is not seeing anything wrong with it, as a matter of fact has not labelled them terrorist what do u call that?? .

First, I do not agree he is their patron since their doings is detrimental to him really, and you're only being tribal, and before they brought their cattle down South they completely ravaged his own North, I hope you know.

But to be honest with you, I do not know how to convince you that "their number one Patron seating in Aso villa" does not care about you or has insufficient knowledge nor the ability to stop them, and when he even said they should do ranch cattle farming to get them off your farms, well, you did not exactly see the benefit of farming your farm as a ranch now did you? I mean, instead of reskilling, and advance from crop growing to animal processing, did you not say Fulani was taking your land?

joxxy01:
where then is my motivation to farm when I am not protected?? how do I Perform my "Duty" coz that's my area of specialization

Specialization is dead. That's why you must be agile and versatile. If one market no sell you do not just sit there, is how we say it in the market. You get off your lazy ass and find opportunities that work. Another word for it is reskill, or diversify.

As for your motivation. Your belly, or starve. Though, since your "duty by owning a farm where I cultivate to provide food for the country and increase GDP", I would not be surprised if you are starving already.

Martian:
You’re so quick to insult people!!! Is that a trait of Buddha, Atum or Jesus?

Zen. To provoke those who have brains.

And I do not agree that I am quick to insult people and think you have not read buda enough to have accumulated sufficient data to accuse buda of what you accuse buda of.

Have you so quickly forgotten our one and only conversation Martian?

Martian:
Mr. Buda "who is not a believer but has read a book" Atum. May the bimbim of the Pixie be upon you.
A man from Tarsus wrote to some people in Corinth and claimed to speak with the "tongue of angels", what do you "understand" ,not "believe", this to mean?

Gift of prophecy?
Understands all mysteries?
All knowledge? ****this guy is not lacking in self esteem"*****
Faith to remove mountains?!!!! Literally or figuratively?

Martian:
He asked a simple question but instead of a yes or no answer, you argued semantics then dismissed him. I’m not defending Sonmavayina, just an observation.

You do not know where our conversation began, just as you seem to have forgotten where you and I left off. After many years of not reading buda despite being on the same threads often, below is a link to where the current saga began.

Read it. Then return to accuse buda please after you've seen it evolve.

https://www.nairaland.com/6319053/when-eve-charged-court-charges#97208657

Martian:
Again, do you believe (or understand) that the flood happened??

I really do not understand why you keep asking me this despite me repeatedly answering you so, here. One more time.

Martian, buda does not do believe, period.

buda is far too proud of buda's ignorance and has the greatest desire to fill buda's mind with knowledge so buda has no space nor time to create stupid crap in buda's head and ignorantly believe it is the truth or facts.

If you do some research about world floods you'd likely not believe them neither, I think, hence son's homework.

He will learn that buda does not feed lazy fuqs!

celwonder:
If u ar referring to Buhari and also calling him a clone, knw dat u ar insulting your President.

I have full regard and respect for my elders because I know they are doing the best they are capable of doing and I pray I overfill their shoes.

I apologise. My bubu is not a clone.

Solsix:
Price of crude oil, how doe that relate with kidnap of school children?? How does that increase virtually all agricultural commodities beyond the rich of ordinary Nigerians??

I did not say kidnapping is because of oil money. During Jonathan's time there was more oil money and even more kidnapping, though I bet most of you forget.

Lack of something to do is what causes me to kidnap you. That, and the fact I am stupid. If I paid attention when in school and learnt to become an accountant or lawyer or carpenter or mechanic or farmer etc I would be too busy counting money suing furniture and mechanically farming acres of land, but look at me! Wailing that bubu is making food "beyond the rich of ordinary Nigerians" like the lazy fuq that I am! No wonder I am being kidnapped. What else am I good for than to be sold as a slave? Or perhaps you think school kidnapping has only just begun? Have you not heard of the Atlantic Slave Trade and the Trans-Saharan Slave Trade? Do you think they prefered university students? Or is it that you never knew school kidnappings have been going on in parts of Nigeria for centurys and finally I have become sufficiently empowered to shout loud enough that I am being kidnapped and be made a slave and fortunately you are no more too deaf to hear me?

As to your "rich", on 30k per month? Give me a break! Seriously, how much reach do you expect to have for so little? What work exactly do you do that 30k is all the reach you deserve? Don't you see tons of people all over Nigeria earning more? The carpenter and mechanic earn more than that and the lawyer and the accountant definitely lots lots more. Have you considered reskilling to increase your earning potential, or are you wailing for bubu to come from his enjoyment in Aso Rock and come and increase your reach?

You will live a very long and interesting life Solsix, mark my word. Do let me know how far you get someday in the future please. I would love to know how you got there.

Consider singing as you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0

Dtruthspeaker:
it would be best you cease speaking to me.

I am definitely not speaking to you. You are just the board I use to speak to those who use their brains and minds and I promise you that I will never tire nor stop.