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Humblebloke:
Something just doesn't seem right......


The contradictions in the supposed holy books inspired by the ''perfect God''


The concept of a god throwing his own creations into a lake of fire for something as minute as believe.......


Does he feed off people's beliefs


Do have a nice week ahead.....

Sir honestly how I wish we can sit down and have a cup of coffee over this, these are the kind of things I live for despite the so called busy schedule we all have and I can tell you that I don't know everything about God but I know that after going through all those contradictions with the scriptures and the help of the holy spirit, you will come to know the raw truth about all those hidden things. But if you want you can still take a step, you don't have anything to loose sir, ask God in your heart to show you himself in a way only you will understand because your heart is Laden with so much questions left unanswered and I believe he will send someone to you this week. Can you do that, it's not a big deal, it won't stop you from living your normal life don't even say if you will here. I will pray for you in faith. God loves you so so much sir, all you need is to know that truth that will truly set you free. My regards.

The prophesy is already manifesting, the next wave of terror that will sweep the world is gradually having head. ISIS will cause untold havoc in Europe in the nest future if these migrants settle there.

xtervaganza:
you're digging yourself into a new hole with every comparison you make



Did I ask my car to worship me? Did I ask the car to thank me for making it? Should the car even thank me for making it so I can use it to my pleasure and discard it when I'm done with it




It's no problem to invent something, but to think your invention owes you praise and worship and gratitude for a favour you did not ask for is beyond stoopid and wicked

Firstly, you don't understand what God really wants from us so am gonna let you go on that because what you have heard about God is probably full of religious doctrines of fear and bondage of being his follower being peddled by men. I mean, who will wanna have a friend that will always look out for faults in you and condemn you all the time once you falter, I wouldn't want such a person and I know that's the way you view God but that's not who God is bro, far from it. God is not angry with you if you fall to worship him, he is not ticked off God is in a good mood, he is happy. All he wasn't from you is a relationship of mutual love. Were you will love him the same way he loves you and not love him out of fear of striking thou once you do anything bad or fail not to worship him. God is a good God and he is love. Now that's awesome!

keenn:
If god didn't create him, who did? Were all
things not created by him(evil inclusive)

If an omnipotent God need to perform a miracle
he doesn't need the consent or intervention of
men, he doesn't. This is a neonate in distress, the
disbelieve of whosoever around shouldn't
matter or cause any effect to his will.

If ur child step on a nail and start crying, does
the child need to call ur attention before u
intervene? I mean!!! So until I call on God to a
child's rescue that is when he will, my gracious!

As regards people being raised up from dead,
well I am yet to see one. If it indeed happened,
then they were not dead in the first place.

As regards the child, am not in that unit
anymore. But would update u if am chance to be
there. My brother, babies die like fow everyday
in hospitals, its no big deal anymore. Definitely(all things being equal) the
child will get better, do u know why? Medical
intervention (chemotherapy and surgery) is
taken place and not prayer or solicit to a God.

If u are worried and moved about this little story,I would employ u to visit a teaching hospital
preferably their pediatrics (children) department
then u'll understand that we are alone.

I appreciate ur spirit though, was once like u.

Sir all things were created by him in his own image and likeness in the spirit because God is a spirit and good didn't create evil because God is a good God all round and all good and perfect gift comes from the father of light above of whom there is no variables. Evil came out of the actions that men and his creations choose and originally from the devil who is the author of evil, but was that why he was created originally? No. You see God has everything put in place perfectly not what you and I are seeing today. we live in a fallen world being ruled by masters of deceptions and the devil. God didn't cause all that, we brought it on ourself by choosing to cooperate with the devil. But the omnipotent nature of God is such that he has the power to turn whatever the devil has succeeded in deceiving people into doing through their actions, God can turn them all into good all to his glory once you are in him. Whether you like it or yes, God is the highest in terms of hierarchy and NOTHING can change that bro, simple. It's a pity that those innocent babies are suffering as a result of so many things in the kind of world we are in where humans take decisions without knowing it's consequences and the devil moving about causing untold havoc, but it's NEVER God's fault not for once nor for twice nor for umpteenth time. God will put an end to evil entirely someday which no man knows but I can confidently tell you that we are not alone in this earth sir, there are forces that you and I can't see both good and evil. I mean just take for instance a radio signal, do you see them? No. But are those signals there? yea and all you need to do is to get a radio and turn it on and tune It and boom you start hearing it with one of your five senses, but does that mean that the signal started when you turned on the radio? No. it has ever been there since. So it is with the spirit world sir, it exist and you know it but don't just wanna accept it because of your enlightenment in the medical field, all you need do is to tune your receiver your heart and you will hear and see things that your mortal eyes can't see, it's left for you to choose the one you wanna hear whether the good or the evil and I tell you sir, you will encounter it for real someday sometime before you leave this earth either the evil or good side of it and you will remember this chat. We are not alone, never has and never will.

Humblebloke:
He knew how the devil was gonna end up......still he created him knowing fully well it was only going to be at the detriment of his own creations(Humans)


Looks like he is trying to experiment.......

Hew knew that there was a possibility of that because of the freewill he gave his creations but he mass another provision for that possibility if it arose and sir God want experimenting when he created ask things. He made everything available and only him knows all of them fully and my peanut brain dosent know all, neither does the devil nor his angels that's why only him really really really knows the unknown. If you wanna spend the rest of your life on trying to figure everything out about God with your mere peanut brain I wish you good luck but I can guarantee you that you will surely be more confused than you are today about him because you your brain is just way too infra - decimal to comprehend that and you are gonna die trying to do that sir. Is it not safe to just believe in him even if he doesn't exist as you claim and when you die you will be glad that you did rather than being sturbborn and arrogant to believe just your senses only thinking that's were it all ends while you still can't yet figure out a mere sleeping and waking up with that your brain only to die and stand before that thing you thought that didn't exist, remembering days like this. Now, that's gonna be some sorry future for you sir. But hey, God is ever waiting for you to come back and not face him that day and regret by acceprong his love and knowing him in truth and not through any doctrine of man, you gat nothing to loose sir. Think about it. Stay blessed and nice week ahead.

hahn:
@bolded, why are you comparing the decision of a man with a supposedly almighty god?

Answer this question, if YOU are god, will you create evil in men and then punish them for it?

Because our brains are too minute to reason like God he uses the simple things of this world to explain how his kingdom works. Now if we can't comprehend these ordinary examples, do you think that you can understand the deep things of the spirit?
Sir, God didn't create evil the same way he created everyone and the earth, Good created everything and saw that they were good, evil came into this world through the devil who manipulated man to disobey God the same way he challenged God when he was still an angel. And God didn't create the devil for evil purposes either rather he created him for a sole purpose of being the lead worshipper in the order of heaven. But the devil out of the freewill that God gave all his creation decided on his own to covet the position of God and went ahead to challenge his authority. If you were God what would you have done to the devil for such act?

Teempakguy:
obviously, you would have to get rid of them.
However, God's method is unethical. Would YOU burn all these rebellious workers in a fire for eternity? Why not just sack them

What if you sack them and they go and establishes another company all with the same purpose of pulling down that your great work and rebelling against that your company is intended to produce this time from the outside, will you still sack them and allow them to go and corrupt other labourers that you may potentially employ?

bulldoza:

Complete rubbish.
Stop using some senseless script to tell me bullshıts
What's is God's position
Think of this yourself for example
I KNOW THAT IF I PUT MY FINGER ON THE FLAME OF A BURNING CANDLE, I WILL BURN MYSELF AND GET HURT. YET, I STILL WENT AHEAD TO DO IT? Later, I started cursing and blaming the candle for burning me... Does this make sense?
What kind of silly "freewill" are you talking about?
Who created freewill?
God knows the beginning and the end? Why did God create evil and the devil in the first place? Why would God create an enemy for himself

Loooool.... God didn't create evil sir, evil came about from the actions that we take that same candle is what gives you light is it not? Your analogy is Just like saying that since God knewv that the candle will burn, he shouldn't have created light. Everything that God created was good in the first place including the devil which in your case is the candle right? Good.
Devil was created so that he will serve a good purpose which is being the lead worshipper in the heavens if you know your history or read them at all. That's the same way that that candle is there primarily to give you light, but out of freewill that God created why because he has that same freewill that's why he felt like creating us and everything, so that we will be and feel like him but with the understanding that he is higher in hierarchy which is quite understandable or else you wanna ask me why did God not make the devil master over himself after creating him. But the devil was curious to become God ie the candle wanted to take the place of the producer, which led him to challenging God and that's where his problem started. He kept on trying to outwit God by deceiving the other creations of God ie man so that hee will make a mockery of God and that's why he lays it in the heart of men to ask such questions like this, making them only to See the candle (himself the devil) as a bad creation of God that only burns people's hand without letting them to the truth that that same candle was originally meant to give light and not burn proles hand. But God being the all knowing has always changed his antics and turned it around for good to his glory because he is the matter architect that constructed the universe. and the truth will always remain for those who seek to find out why was the candle created originally, until God himself punishes the devil on judgement day for that singular act of challenging his authority.

xtervaganza:
stop lying and forming bollocking about your wicked god




1st, we did not ask him to create us



2, he's evil


3, he's more evil than the devil you ported as evil



4, he's the same as the devil



5, he has stoopid plans for his people in heaven(praise and worship all your sorry life in heaven). That is not enjoyment of everlasting, you'll be bored to death



6, he is man made

Sir, did that car you are driving today ask to be manufactured? Do you think that God didn't create man for a purpose of enjoying his powers with him? If thats your logic then before all these things you are seeing today came into being the manufacturer would have asked them if they wanted to be created, the engineers would have asked all their inventions how far, you wan exist? before they go into producing them. I mean, how dumb can you get and still breathe? (sorry if that sounded harsh)
Sir you need to open your eyes to the truth before it's too late because it's the not your fault that you are thinking this way, the devil is the one manipulating your heart. You are better than this bro, look into your heart and you will see the truth. It won't cost you anything to entertain and reason what am telling you bro, even if it's for an hour just think about it, and see what have been shielded from you all these while. The spirit of the living God will minister to you and convict you into repentance. One love bro, with all sincerity of heart.

bulldoza:

Rubbish

Then why is God "all knowing"
He knows the beginning and the end. i.e, he knew Satan will end up being rebellious and yet, he still created him....
YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND OR ASSUME FOR GOD.

You are mixing the whole thing up, yez God knows the
beginning and the truth is that this world as you see it
had already finished before it even started, it's just
like a building that is drawn on a sheet of paper before
it is actually built. Nothing is new under this sun,
Lucifer as an angel eyed and coveted God's position for
himself he wanted to overthrow God why because God
didn't create man and his angels and cast them under
spell of eternal loyalty from them, he gave them and us
choice and freewill to choose what they want to do so
that they will respect him having their whole will intact
and not forcefully or with prejudice. But despite this,
God as the most powerful and top of the hierarchy, has
measures in place for those who will choose wrong
because he knew that some will and those measures are
strictly for rebellious followers and those that
challenges his authority because he gave them freewill
to do so. And the punishment for what Lucifer did was
great because he is an angel and not man, he knows who
God is more than any man can ever know and yet he
went ahead to test his authority and if you as a man
were in God's shoes what would you have done?
Remember the hell fire was not made for man but for
Lucifer and his angels at the end of times and God
demoted Lucifer from the high but he didn't take his
abilities as an angel from him because his blessings are
permanent and the devil knows that his judgement is
coming and that's why he is deceiving men today into so
many actions that will amount to rebellion against God
so that it won't be only him that will serve that
punishment of hell. He started with Eve in the garden
of Eden and deceived them from the perfect plan that
God has for man and that's why man disobeyed God
because he has choices just like Lucifer not knowing
what the consequences of disobedience will bring upon
mankind for had Adam and eve known, they wouldn't
have eaten of those fruit. And the devil didn't stop
there, he is in the world today deceiving people with his
deception, he is reading this post right now and is
designing ways already to counter it. But the truth is
that he can't stop the kingdom of God and he cant
escape his judgement, the question is have your eyes
been blinded by his deception? From accepting Jesus
and being saved?
Happy Sunday

keenn:
This argument is going in a merry-go-round.

The muslims never said islam was a religion, they also call it a way of life, to each his own.

What provision has God made for the sick people?

Let me tell one of the so many helpless cases I see everyday. Last week, I saw a case of a neonate (new born child) with hydrocephaly (extreme big head), jaundice(yellowish-green body), severe dehydration(wrinkled skin)...and bed sores.

When this child cries u would practically feel the excruciating pain he is passing through. When we go for ward rounds, I am move to tears as regards the lad situation compounded with the parent not financially dispose to pay for treatment.

I an agnostic was the one who initiated financial contribution for this kid to assist with treatment, in my team are Christians/prayer warrior fellows...I wonder why they didn't initiate a prayer section for miraculous healing for this lad.

If I a man/flesh/agnostic could be moved to tears to solicit support ,how much more a god(omnipotent) that u claim is merciful.

What protocols does he want before he can help
? For crying out loud, they didn't ask me for help and neither did I reveal myself to them for gratitude
(This is just one of the so many cases)

Sir I understand your feelings and I must say am inspired by what you did, I can confidently tell you that God didn't put that child in that condition, it can be attributed to so many things but I know that God didn't create that child that way. The devil can manipulate anyone including a new born baby that is innocent by seeking the cooperation of man. And sir not everyone that claims to be a Christians is a Christian truly, Christianity is not by mouth nor religious doctrines that are everywhere today, it is by living after Christ when he was on earth and must Christians don't know even who they are following about the authority they have.... leave that for another day.
It's God's will that that baby will be healed but it has to depend on those around him and what they are doing, can never interfere with the affairs of men unless he is invited. He put restrictions on himself by the laws you and I know today and for that child to be healed it has to go beyond that laws and enter the spiritual realm with FAITH. Medicine can heal tho if they have already figured out the law to that effect with our peanut brain. Lemme ask you sir, mid someone can raise a dead person up am sure you must have seen or heard such stories for real, .com you think that healing a baby will be difficult for him? I mean there are millions of things that are going wrong in this world that if God should just intervene today, this world will cease to exist because he will disrupt a lot of thing in other to fix the mess caused by our actions and choices. But that day is coming, the judgement day. My only prayer is that that baby will come in contact with a true believer that will liberate him from what the evil one has done. and sir to prove to you that God is ever willing to heal anyone if only we knew how to tune our receiver to receive the healing, that baby will survive that condition and be made whole physically before the end of this month in Jesus name., because there is nothing that too difficult for God to do in his name. You can hold me on that let's see if God is real or not. Do me a favour and come back here and quote me on the first of next month on the condition of that child comparing it to the present. God is a good God sir, not minding how men have painted him negatively. Remain Blessed.

lovely17:
There are several things the Bible didn't make clear even the Bible contradicts itself in several verses wonder if I have been decieved also?

God is not an author of confusion sir, bible is so real and conforming as you can ever imagine, it's the interpretation by men (doctrines of men) that has killed most people today. If the holy spirit is ministering the revelations to you bro, you will discover that from genesis to revelation is a masterpiece of God's power. But on your own human understanding it will sound strange and contradictory. If you bring out your time and asking the holy spirit for help and study the word with passion the same way you do that thing you like most and not just referring to some popular verses and arguing about them, it won't be long you will know the TRUTH and it shall truly set you free. Remain Blessed.

demelza:
What an analogy! God bless you richly.

Thanks bro and you too. The glory belongs to God.

Bobopupa:
- - - > Succinct!

All to God's glory, remain blessed.

bulldoza:

Rubbish

Then why is God "all knowing"
He knows the beginning and the end. i.e, he knew Satan would end up being rebellious and yet, he still created him....
#YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND NOR ASSUME FOR GOD.
#GOD WORKS IN A MYSTERIOUS WAYS
#NO RELIGION IS PERFECT.

You are mixing the whole thing up, yez God knows the beginning and the truth is that this world as you see it had already finished before it even started, it's just like a building that is drawn on a sheet of paper before it is actually built. Nothing is new under this sun, Lucifer as an angel eyed and coveted God's position for himself he wanted to overthrow God why because God didn't create man and his angels and cast them under spell of eternal loyalty from them, he gave them and us choice and freewill to choose what they want to do so that they will respect him having their whole will intact and not forcefully or with prejudice. But despite this, God as the most powerful and top of the hierarchy, has measures in place for those who will choose wrong because he knew that some will and those measures are strictly for rebellious followers and those that challenges his authority because he gave them freewill to do so. And the punishment for what Lucifer did was great because he is an angel and not man, he knows who God is more than any man can ever know and yet he went ahead to test his authority and if you as a man were in God's shoes what would you have done?
Remember the hell fire was not made for man but for Lucifer and his angels at the end of times and God demoted Lucifer from the high but he didn't take his abilities as an angel from him because his blessings are permanent and the devil knows that his judgement is coming and that's why he is deceiving men today into so many actions that will amount to rebellion against God so that it won't be only him that will serve that punishment of hell. He started with Eve in the garden of Eden and deceived them from the perfect plan that God has for man and that's why man disobeyed God because he has choices just like Lucifer not knowing what the consequences of disobedience will bring upon mankind for had Adam and eve known, they wouldn't have eaten of those fruit. And the devil didn't stop there, he is in the world today deceiving people with his deception, he is reading this post right now and is designing ways already to counter it. But the truth is that he can't stop the kingdom of God and he cant escape his judgement, the question is have your eyes been blinded by his deception? From accepting Jesus and being saved?
Happy Sunday

Sir, if you own a cooperation for an instance and your subordinates are rebelling against you despite all your efforts to have a cordial and personal relationship with them even after they disobeyed an injunction you gave them when you employed them, you have the power to sack them but didn't, still loved and cared for them and even sacrificed your position and came down to their level to show them what's best for them, hoping that that they will make the right choices without you compelling them and forcing them without any choice of their own, but with a definite day of judgement in mind to judge all them, according tho those that accepted your sacrifice for them and those that refused it vehemently, would you fold your hands and watch everything you have built be tumbled over by some rebellious workers and not do something to put an end to the decay that their rebellion has brought about?

keenn:
I understand ur position,I once shared that faith and talked that way too bxcode

I believe u are a Christian, and I appreciate ur conviction. But What would u say about islamist fundamentalist and their killing spree all in the name of following their believe, what would u say about worshipers of men(satgurumaraji) or what would u say about worshipers of self(budhism)?

My objection is about prayers being answered by a God, if truely there's is anything of such, I am yet to see. I mean! The hospitals are there.

First of all, religion was created by man to siut him according to cultural, environmental and other values. That's why we have various religion today and I must categorically state that am not condemning any of them. But Christianity is not a religion rather a way of life if you go back to its origin in Antioch were the disciples were first called Christians because they were living like Christ while he was on earth and also it's the only belief that worships a living God, other religion can point to the end of the existence of their author respectively. Religion as a matter of fact has done more harm than good because men have twisted it to their selfish and lustful desires. Religion will only permit what will service it, it was religious doctrine that painted God the way he is seen by many today in the Christian world, I can't really say much for other religion. The truth is that God has been terribly misrepresented and he can't just move his thumb and heal everyone on earth, it will man interfering with the affairs of men. The reason why people are not healed are numerous, we live in a fallen world bro, the devil is moving around inflicting people with sickness and diseases not God, God has already made provision for everyone that will ever fall sick but is it everyone that will be healed? No. Because not everyone knows how to receive that gift of healing and also the choices that we make daily plays a part, it is the truth you know that will set you free. I gat so much to say on this that I may end up confusing you and sounding weird, but I know that God is a merciful and a faithful God.

Princewell2012:
bxcode. pls could you share some of these true nature of God here?

I will be interested to know them.
Or still send me an email. gnwaneri@ymail.com

Thank you.

it's an audio file, will forward it to your inbox immediately, won't regret listening to it...... is your mail address gmail or yahoomail please, it's confusing kinda.

UncleSnr:
How I wish I read the post you made earlier... Man created god in his own image.

What's preventing you from doing that?

keenn:
Nigga, what other platform do u want again, is this not a platform?

What so complex about a prayer being answered, I mean!! If an ominipotent God has answered a prayer, what other protocols are needed again, why should there be a 1001 thing from preventing an answered prayer?

Let me tell u one secret, in medical school, prayers are not included among the option of modalities of treatment. Its so funny that this religious people havnt performed any miracle(proof for answer prayer) on hospital beds.

My brother do what u have to do, for if there's a God, the universe is so big that ourequest is probably irrelevant.

A time will surely come when we all are gonna stand up for what we believe in and until then, I believe and will ever believe in God, who created the heaven and earth, the only living God. Remain blessed sir

And someone will still go and download songs made by her and listen? Wow!! Remembering that I used to waste my resources downloading and following all these so called celebs and their songs that adds no atom of value to my life. How dumb can we get and still breathe.
Thank God for knowing the truth.

UncleSnr:
Go home, you are confused! You don't even understand your deity. Don't paint him to be what he isn't. Holy books spelt it clearly who he is and how he works, don't just try covering his deficiencies.

Lol... do you for once think that man can cover God or defend God? He dosent need me nor anyone to do that. Am not covering up anyone, you are suprised because you probably haven't seen anyone talk about God in such a manner. Am not trying to prove anything to you either because it won't make sense to you. But i know that God is a good God and am sorry but your opinion dosent count, simple. Whether 7billion people dosent believe that or not, i don't give a rip. Now that's awesome.

That's not who God is, it's religion that has succeeded in painting God like that. It's a pity and I don't for once blame anyone who dosent believe in God after hearing all these stuffs about rules and regulation one has to keep or else God strikes you, atheists are bolder than Christians in this aspect because they make more sense than most Christians who dosent even know the true nature of God. If ihadn't known this truth about God, you tell me that i need to worship someone who will strike me anytime i don't live up to his standard, i wouldn't want to do anything with that thing no matter what i will gain from him. But that's not who God is truly, he is not an angry God or a wicked or mean God as 99.99% of most religious doctrines teaches today. How I wish I can have a platform to let share with people on the true nature of God. God is a good God.
Op, there could be thousand and one thing that could be preventing your already answered prayers from manifesting from the spiritual realm to the physical realm. I don't know where to start from but you we can talk if you feel like cost all on me.... just let me know if your mind is free to that effect.

It's only the truth you know that will set you free.
I respect what you guys believe in but remember if there were ever a possibility of knowing what will happen after one leaves this earth, won't you rather want to hear about it even tho it may not make sense to you? In the spirit of being open minded.

Op do you know that sin is not the issue again? Jesus has paid for sin once and once for all. That's Ann old testament law if you think that God is angry at the so called homosexuals..

Misconception and religious doctrines is what birthed atheists and other beliefs.... That's why I hardly argue with an atheists because it's not his fault that he believes what he believes, he was told about God, the one and only true God in a wrong manner.
It takes supernatural revelation to change such person not by arguments and so many Christians think they are defending God by abusing others that don't believe in him, if you are doing that then you don't know who God truly is.

That's the hard truth, it's a pity that the university system is just seen as a means to grab a document titled degree and once they become graduate they stop reading and upgrading themselves. That's why I encourage young people like myself to do things that will only add value to your life. A lot of activities that we do today are pure distractions with little or no value and we make them our priorities.
I don't have a job, I Don't have a job, what have you been doing all along up until you see that job invite? Your guess is as good as mine.

An Emir died some years ago in the north, 22 private jets landed in Kano that day and no body said anything about it.
Hypocrites!!