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Renida:
I feel sorry if such is the scenario. People lose interest once their person of interest for so many reasons. One of this which I think is the case here is psychological posturing. What this means is some people are used to working extremely hard aka hustling for things. Their entire life rests on a perspective that what they must have, they must work for, unfortunately some of this whole way of thinking affects even not working aspects of their lives. So in relationships for example, this kinds want to toast toast, chase and beg the woman, but if it doesn't follow this narrative and the lady makes asking her out easy, it poses no challenge and isn't mentally tasking. This makes them see lesser value however good such a partner maybe.


I believe the narrative above is the scenarios playing out here. It happens with women also. When people in this category don't suffer for a thing, their brain tricks them to assume it's worth lesser. It's purely psychological

Only silly men won't love a woman that show interest in them. He who love less has more power in a relationship , If a man chase and beg, he lost his value in the process. No wonder many Nigerian men complain the ladies dont love. They are doing it wrong

Bluntintrovert1:
Okay...... One of those that hides behind the keyboard to spew trash.

Aunty sorry o

Lightangel65:
Shut up the fact it happened to you doesn't mean everyone chew gums a lady like a creep all in loves name.
He doesn't love her if he did it would be obvious, he is just being nice.

na wa . enjoy

Bluntintrovert1:
Do not be deceived, if a guy likes you, he would do everything possible to be with you. Don't take his friendliness for attraction sister.

Keep shut ... You dont know what is going on . I understand that Guy. He was able to make her feel that love because he wasn't too quick to ask her out. The wise men know this. How many of those asking you have you been able to have much feelings for ? Let me stop there

freshboi88:
John 16:15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.
C as this verse don mumu u

Not at all , it shows you dont really think
So this means Apostle Paul lied that Jesus belong to God or what are you saying ??

Gods begotten son that came into existence through him is Gods property

freshboi88:
Quote the verse and paste it here where the bible said Jesus belongs to God.

1 Corinthians 3:23 " Christ belongs to God "

Belong meaning property of the Father. So Jesus is part of the all things that Came from the Father.

freshboi88:
Why is he called Everlasting Father?....

Jesus is not same as the Father. 100% FACT: So which begs the question: who was made through the Father?

Begotten son. That single word has ended your gragra

Jozzy4:
There is only one source , The Father from whom all things came. No Scripture says all things came from the son. It says " Through" the son. ( 1Cor 8:6)

But the problem is it also came through the Father tell us what came through the Father ?

If Jesus is not part of what came from The Father , why does he belong to him ?

U have ran from that 1Cor 3:23 canticles gave you. It exposed una




Angel that fought Jacob claims to Be GOD . capital G . so nothing special

Jesus is not the Father , so you have no point


Did Jesus belong to himself ?

Why is he another persons property if he isn't created ?

Canticles also ask why Jesus is our brother ?

That's the question he has refused to answer , who came Through the Father ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

Jozzy4:
When freshboi88 sees that the bible call Jesus a belonging of the Father

I was just laughing when I saw him jumping the other time, now he saw the scripture .. E gentle. His claim now Is that Jesus belong to himself thats why he ran to Isaiah to make Jesus his own Father , when the bible says otherwise. Christ didn't belong to himself. He is someone property

freshboi88:
I have answered u before nah, u even quoted the answer

All things came from the Father the same way All things came from the Son. In Isaiah, the Son is also called Father.

New International Version
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

So my friend u dnt have a point. Open ur heart to accept the truth.

Can u tell us why a created being is called God and Everlasting Father?...

God with a capital G, not a small g....cos I know the lie u wanna tell now

U are even calling him " SON " . and we all know a son has a beginning . uncreated but begotten , If an uncreated being can be begotten the Father would have been called begotten too , Can't u get the message ? , For you to be begotten means u have a start.

Isaiah doesnt change the Fact that Jesus is a son, begotten into existence .

An uncreated being cannot be our BROTHER .

freshboi88:
New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

@ bolded Is the bible lying too?......I do not use logic, I speak what the Bible says.

Am also speaking what the bible says .
So what came through the Father ? Heb 2:10

The Father is not the same as Jesus . so tell us what came through the Father.

2. Jesus is our brother , you will never hear statement like " Son of Jesus " . he was created just like everyone else hence OUR BROTHER . begotten means come into existence

freshboi88:
Oh u r back from the wilderness. Ur brother @CANTICLES said col 3:23 is Jesus belongs to God. I have finished tht 1.shame will not allow him come back to this thread.

@CANTICLES brother col 3:23 Jesus belongs to God..... hahahaha....this guy will not kill me with laugh.

The bible says those who worship God do so in spirit and truth. U all sure lack the spirit and the truth

Empty barrels make the loudest noise . now go back and address it.

freshboi88:
This man said col 3:23 is Jesus belong to God. This people are subtracting and adding to scripture. That's not what col 3:23 says

Let me quote what it says:

New International Version
Col 3:23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters,

Pls help me ask this man how that verse is the same as Jesus belong to God.

Jehovah Witness is just a gathering of people that lack intelligence, wisdom and understanding. They do so because they lack the Holy Spirit. Because if my pastor tells me this in my church, that col 3:23 says Jesus belongs to God. I'll challenge him and tell him that the verse doesn't say anything like that.

But people like canticle swallow it hook, line and sinker and even go as far as using it to display their ignorance online

The fact still remains Jesus is a property of The Father , just like everyone else. that's what the bible says , that I made a mistake in quote doesnt change it. I didn't know you are not so knowledgeable enough to know the bible said so.

1 Corinthians 3:23 " Christ belongs to God "

Jesus is part of what Came from the Father . his properties that belong to him.

freshboi88:
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No, there is no bible verse that supports that. If there is show me

and is the Father part of the all things that came from the Son?

The bible never said all things came from the Son. U lied.

The Father is above all , all his sons including Jesus are made by him.

But when it says all things came through Jesus ( The Father and Jesus himself is not included )

U will never hear things like " Sons of Jesus " . IMPOSSIBLE. Because he is not the creator

But he was created too, So Jesus is our brother

freshboi88:
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No, there is no bible verse that supports that. If there is show me

and is the Father part of the all things that came from the Son?

Colossians 3:23 Jesus Belong to God.

Why is Jesus his property ? Yeye

freshboi88:
New International Version
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.


Hahahaha......Ur attempt to make sense with Ur post turns logic on its head.

U can say one thing a million times, it would never make it true.

If what u r saying is correct then that verse should read Jesus Christ through whom every "other thing " came and not "all things" . Do u think every other person is as daft as u have chosen to be.

This verse u have quoted doesn't show that Jesus is created, it shows that Jesus is God, Uncreated .

The same way everything came from the Father is the same way Everything came from the Son. So both Father and Son are originators, source of life. That is what the verse says. It works to my advantage.

Show me where it says every other thing was created through Jesus and I'll believe u

Is Jesus part of the all things that came from the Father .. ?

freshboi88:
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If God every thing was made through Jesus and another verse says everything was made through God. It only conirms that Jesus is God. The bible is very clear on who everything was made through.

Jesus is not the one mentioned at Hebrew 2:10. Read again, the person through whom all things came was making Jesus perfect in the verse . unless u mean there are two Jesus ? Freshboi88 u are a comedian

God used him to create other beings. Show me the verse in the bible that says this.

Col 1:16 doesn't even support this assertion

New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and for him.


In english language does b]all things exclude anything?.....

All things for Jesus said exclude himself and his Father .

But when it says All things came from Tue Father ... Jesus included. So Jesus was created

freshboi88:
U have not provided the verse that shows that God made Jesus through himself. In the whole of the bible not one verse to support that claim.

Col 1:16 doesn't even support this assertion

New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things [/b]have been created through him and for him.

Now use ur God given sense and look at the bolded.

Yebrews
Since Ur academically inept lemme come to your level and ask u elementary questions,

In english language does b]all things exclude anything?.....

Let me school you .

ALL things in the case of Jesus is relative to things that came THROUGH him.

Using your logic - ALL things came from the Father ( 1Cor 8:6) means Jesus too came from to Father . Read this again and again.

So its clear Jesus was created by the Father . he is part of the all things that came from the Father . but how asy he made ? The bible says Through the Father himself.

freshboi88:
The onus is on u to show me and reconcile Col 1:16 and John 1:4 as well as 1 cor 16:45 with Ur lies that God created Jesus first.

U made a failed attempt by quoting proverbs which I said it has no relationship with Jesus. I asked u to show me where proverbs 8 mentioned Jesus, You couldn't because it's not there.

The purpose of the thread is for u to explain how Jesus who the bible said everything was made in him, through him and for him was created.

Did he make himself?...........

Through the Father too , u forgot ? Let me remind you. Through the Father showed the Father dont need Jesus to make Jesus , he can make things through himself.

More punch: all things came FROM the Father as well, including Jesus. That's why Jesus is a son and Gods property

joyandfaith:
you did not see the corration? go and read bible in your mother tongue.

Savage! he lacks comprehension lols

freshboi88:
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New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

Adam didn't create all things
Angels didn't create all things

Jesus did....All things were created in him, through him and for him.. Even you, u were created through him, in him and for him. And u turn around and question his Divinity. God forgive u.

If Jesus is created then he must be part of all things. Meaning Jesus was created through Jesus. [s]

Begotten means brought into existence .. And The Father dont need Jesus to make Jesus . The Father made Jesus Through himself. Heb 2:10

You are shouting God need Jesus to make Jesus , forgetting that the bible explains that someone was made through the Father too . whoooooooooo ? ? The big Question

freshboi88:
New International Version
Col 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

Adam didn't create all things
Angels didn't create all things

Jesus did....All things were created in him, through him and for him.. Even you, u were created through him, in him and for him. And u turn around and question his Divinity. God forgive u.

If Jesus is created then he must be part of [b]all things. [/b]

Yeah , All things that was made by the Father . that's why Jesus BELONG to the Father .

Meaning Jesus was created through Jesus.

You would have made sense if the bible didn't say the Someone passed through the Father.

Hebrews 2:10

" It was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering as part of his plan to glorify many children,


Someone passed through the Father remember ?

Freshboi88 , the only problem you have now is identify what passed through the Father , for something to pass through the Father it means what passed through the Father needed no Jesus to be made. It was made and Through the Father himself [ NOT Through Jesus ]

freshboi88:
No matter how u wan turn am. Abraham had other children.

God also has other children. other sons ... Silly no matter how u turn am , .

BEGOTTEN means Brought into existence , anyone begotten has a beginning

You are in trouble

The bible never stayed that Jesus was created. So applying Abraham logic to God is outright foolishness

Show me the verse where God created Jesus

Revelation 2:18 Jesus is a " Son of God "

Luke 1:35 Adam is a " Son of God "

Job 38:4-7 angels are " Sons of God "


What's the similarities between all of them As creation ? Who father them all ?

freshboi88:
Re other children not Abraham's children?. The verse did not say Abraham and Sarahs only begotten son.......u just added that....dude sense is far from u

If u say Isaac is Sarah only begotten son...u would make sense, not Abraham, he had other sons period!..e no get how u wan twist am.

Now the question is why was Isaac called only begotten when Abraham had other children?....lemme leave u to answer that, when u have the answer come back

You would have made sense but you lose it when you didn't realize . ABRAHAM CANNOT BEGET A CHILD ALONE.The point still stands . Begotten means brought into existence. And Isaac is the only one he got by promise to Sarah .


Now God has how many wives or how does God beget and brought into existence his own sons ?

freshboi88:
So Isaac was called Abraham only begotten
son..if thts d meaning u r alluding to begotten then u r wrong. Shows u dnt know nything. Was Isaac the only son Abraham father?

Yes only begotten son of Abraham and Sarah . the only son of that union, .. To give birth as human, a man and a woman must have sex and someone would be brought into existence. ISAAc is the only begotten son brought into existence in that marriage.

How does God brought into existence his son ?

freshboi88:
To answer your question...All things came from the Father, The Source, Originator.

col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

So also... Christ created all things. Let me leave you to differentiate between both. When u are done let me know

Who came through the Father ? Because its clear both are different. So how can the Bible says someone or something Came through the Father if all was made through Jesus ? Just name what came through the Father

freshboi88:
Using human wisdom to analyze the matters of God is utter foolishness

Its not human wisdom , the same begotten was used for Isaac and we know it means brought into existence .

The same Greek word. Dont be an hypocrite . You are sounding like one already

Begotten means brought into existence. And for your information , the Father made him through himself . dismantling your op

freshboi88:
Y r u fooling urself. How does it clearly show that someone came from the Father when it says All Things. When did all things change to someone or something?

So if this verse refers to the Father and the John 1:4 says All things were created through Christ....so how do u reconcile that?...

If Ur interpretation is not consistent with scripture then u r obviously wrong.

This verse is referring to Christ. Mirroring John 1:4 and col 1:16

Its not Christ., you are making that claim because u know that verse would wound you.


Christ was given many things , let me point one from the same Colosians 1:19

King James 2000 Bible
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell;

The Father gave him all the fullness he has.


Romans 11:35,36 says the person has not been given anything.


More tears for you


" In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting for God, for whom and through whom all things exist, to make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering.
Heb 2:10

This also testify that All things CAme THROUGH the Father . the Father is not Jesus . definitely like Jozzy4 mentioned , Someone came through the Father , which means the Father made this one himself without any agent. This dismantle your John 1:3 claim that Jesus is needed for everything



At this junction , let us go back to the question : Who came THROUGH the Father ? Without Jesus .

Freshboi88 over to you

Janosky:


Freshboi88 initially claimed that Romans11:36 referred to Jesus Christ, Bros na wa ooooo !!
Suddenly your "spiritual wisdom of heavenly things" done CHANGE Jesus Christ to Father

You dey read Romans 11:35-36 , yet you come dey argue blindly jumping from pillar to post..

Arguing blindly indeed . Good morning brother

freshboi88:
Show me where that verse said the father created someone through himself

" THROUGH HIM " . Romans 11:35,36 . If all things was made through Jesus without anything through the Father. This verse is a lie

Clearly , someone came through the Father . who ?

freshboi88:
Already explained that..can't keep repeating myself.go through d thread

Begotten means to bring into existence . So does your argument stand in the face if this ?

freshboi88:
Guys I am dealing with @Janosky. E yansh dey pepper am now. E hi don tire for me say any akara analogy I carry comot freshboi go just use me do yeye.............

My brother nah because watch tower don deceive you nah. How u wan take win argument when u dey wrong

Am surprised you are still dragging this when you believe already that Jesus is a begotten son. What does it mean to be begotten son ?