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TheSourcerer:
he's just another war loving God who battles the enemies of the Israelites but cannot and has never helped feeding the poor , catching rapists red handed or even just saying hey hi I exist , I'm just a bloody coward , that will send you to hell for not loving my ways , Bleep you yaweh , suck jesus's nipples hopes Mohammad cums of your stupid Throne

you are probably deceived by religion. But I think you are smart than that, if only you could research the hell claim Biblically

ENEMYOFGOD6:
where is your proof to back up the existing of that your imaginary,worthless, useless, hopeless God ? you brainwashed sheep don't quote me again OK.

It's logical that you can't wrap your head around a god that creates hellfire to burn his own creations ... I agree with you that cannot be loving, so deep within I know you do not deny there are evidences of Design in the Universe, from Nitrogen cycle to how the sex organs of male and female are carefully structured to produce offsprings , But have you ever consider if Religion was telling you lies against God about the whole hellfire stuff ??

rottennaija:
So you don't know his name? I want to hear you mention it... What is his name?

answer a fool according to his folly .
Yeah, I don't know his name .

rottennaija:
Abeg! No fall my hands

Just go and park somewhere, seems you don't know what to say again. Jwfact owner doesn't believe in the Bible as God's word , you are Satan's agent to direct people to such a person.

paulGrundy:
you didnt put the reference because neither me nor paul Grundy made that comment. you simply made it up.

cc; rottenaija,

it wasn't made up, you are just silly

paulGrundy:
am not suprised! telling lies and misrepresentation of comments is not new to you.
i have this quote for you @Jozzy4

John 8:44 King James Version (KJV)
44 Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

cc; rottenaija,

don't be a stupid man, the quote Jozzy4 brought to the thread is real . You are the liar here and should apologize to Jozzy4

rottennaija:
Who is he? What is his name?

You created this thread to advertise a website of who you don't know ?

paulGrundy:
where is the reference to that quote? cc; rottenaija, TruthinAction

for real ? FAKE paulgrundy . busted

Jozzy4:
You didn't address the main issue, though I must commend your insight on what Jesus meant that's if you actually meant what you wrote above at bold.

Now here are my questions :

1. Do you accept Rottennaija is wrong to interpret Jesus words to mean literal eating of emblems ?

2. Do you agree that your pastor and mentor, Paulgrundy of Jwfact is Extremely Wrong below ?



" he [ Jesus ] commands partaking of the emblems as an importance acceptance of him and gaining everlasting life.

John 6:53-57 "Accordingly Jesus said to them: "Most truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves. He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I shall resurrect him at the last day; for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me." - Paulgrundy


Is he right or wrong ?

Looool , so this is where they got that garbage from .

rottennaija:
Who doesn't believe in the bible?

Jwfact owner

Jozzy4:
Let me repeat the Fact that 1. You haven't gave a valid reason why those who lived in the past never ate this bread and wine IF its essential for everlasting life . your time difference theory only QUESTION the validity of Jesus claim to be the second Adam that gives eternal life, if his coming ONLY Affect people of his era .

2. You again, haven't respond soundly to the fact that despite Jesus institute the Memorial, we Stoll find a Man that same day who gained Life promise from Jesus without eating bread and wine , Your Exception theory contradict Jesus statmenent that " UNLESS YOU Eat " . who are the YOU ? How then can the man be an exception ? Is Jesus lying ?

3. You again failed to respond to @Jessicha's point that during the 1000 years of Christ reign, some unrighteous people would turn to doing good and gain Life, Did they ate the bread and wine ? No .

Now My focus is the below .



If it result to death and sickness , How then can you reconcile it with the below ?


48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever.

What Jesus OFFER doesn't LEAD to Death.

To address the they ate it unworthy : Don't forget that Jesus contrasted this flesh of his with Manna . Did people died from eating Manna ? Even when some people disobey some instruction guiding it, NO One died from eating it.

Is Manna now better than Jesus flesh ?



Attitude ?

Christ said and I quote

" “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you khave no life in you. 54 [u] Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life , and mI will raise him up on the last day. "

From where did you see attitude here ? He state " Whoever FEED " . whoever .

This is what happen when you try to merge to events that are different.


Even the Manna known also as Bread from heaven didn't kill anyone because of attitude . Is Manna better than Christ body ? ?

highlight is so funny, well done bro . What Jesus gives doesn't lead to death, but mr rottennaija is quoting a passage that says emblem caused some deaths . shooting himself on the leg.

rottennaija:
If they are free from their sins after death, then why are they raised to judgement? Why are the righteous raised to eternal life and the wicked to judgment?

and the wicked will be raised to heaven since there won't be earthly ressurection , right ?

Jessicha:
Useless excuse Are there unrighteous people presently?

exactly what I just typed . lol

rottennaija:
Looking for excuse to escape responsibility? Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and a host of other ancient servants of God will be resurrected to life in heaven without partaking the communion. They live at their own time and satisfied the requirement for God's favour and remembrance

stop lying , Jessicha make a good case there, So there are no unrighteous people during this time as well that will get ressurected for life ? ? So how come they didn't eat emblem before gaining life or Jesus lied that Unless ?

Jozzy4:
They left him because they were dull in hearing thinking he meant a literal EATING . like You are doing . you ain't different from them. He clarifies " The flesh is of no use at all, my words are spirit" .

Literal Eating can't give you LIFE . its the spiritual aspect below that gives life.


40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life,

What gives eternal life as written above ?



Are u aware that some became sick and even died after partaking of emblem ? Something that gives LIFE should not Create Death as well. Emblem has a different purpose Jesus said : this cup means the New covenant . he was instituting a covenant NOT literal eating that gives life




John 6:40 says faith in Jesus gives eternal life, Are u calling our Lord a liar because your understanding of his words his shallow ?



Of course, The Thief on Jesus side did that before he could have LIFe right ?

Don't forget Jesus said " UNLESS " . this thing should have NP exception.



Jesus said : " The FLESH is of no use at all " . so he wasn't referring to literal eating .



When Adam and Eve sinned, God quickly blocked the tree of life, cos eating it would give them life


Fast forward to apostles day, If eating the bread and wine gives LIFE , It won't cause death or sickness for anyone. , in fact it should be encouraged to gain LIFE , no matter either u sin or not . . But the reverse was the case.



Its like telling me Governing Body can say tomorrow that Rich man and Lazarus is a literal story and I will believe, when there are many Holes I discovered myself. They just can't ! They need to prove it soundly for me to accept, Here you are struggling to tell why after Jesus institute , a man still gain LIFE without eating Jesus blood and flesh ?
now asking nonsense question on something you are yet to prove soundly ... Partaking the emblem doesn't give LIFE, its not what Jesus was speaking at John 6 . when instituting the emblem, Jesus use it to establish NEW COVENANT . NOT as a way to gain LIFE.

That way the thief on his side Is exempted, but He can gain LIFE because what is required is Faith in Jesus NOT eating bread or flesh that is of no use at all to gain life

you saw the title of this thread , the rottennaija guy is a product of Jwfact brainwashing. emblem gives life , yet some eat it and get sick . should people die as a result of what gives Life ?

Jozzy4:
Here is the text :

" So Jesus said to them: Most truly I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOURSELVES , WHOEVER feeds on my flesh and drink my blood has everlasting life " John 6:53,54

Did John the Baptist Eat Jesus flesh and drink his blood ? Would he have everlasting life ?

lol, what a thread

Jozzy4:
Jw facts is a Sick place to Learn about witnesses , The moment I saw his Failed analysis on birthdays and how he skipped the topic of hellfire and immortal soul in his questionable doctrines , I knew that guy has nothing in his head when it comes to Biblical knowledge, he was probably scared of flopping big tyme. He is just an opposer , an opposer has nothing positive to say . ( Revelation 12:10 " accuser of our brothers " attitude ) , A wise person should only visit Jw.org for good information's . Well articulated and short

bro , apart from that he doesn't believe in the Bible

rottennaija:
Anything you read on jw.org, compare and contrast with www.jwfacts.com. If you want to buy a car, it is better to hear from the manufacturers, people who have bought and used the car and people who no longer use it. Hear from all sides and decide.

www.jw.org and www.jwfacts.com

what an human being, So you can learn about the Bible from someone who doesn't believe in it ? shaking me head for you seriously .

tobidipity:
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jehovah-witness-beliefs/



jw.org is the only official website of Jehovah's witnesses

100%

this is highly misleading, Jwfact that said the Bible is not God's word ? that said the Bible is not different other books written by men ?

Change the topic to: Where to go if you do not want to have faith in the scriptures .

rottennaija:
What does being a Jehovah Witness entail? And is there a place I can read about them unbiasedly?

Mark Jones, Ex-Jehovah's Witness of 31 years
Answered Jun 5, 2019 on Quora.com

Your first port of call should be JWFacts.com

Many people (me included) wish we’d visited that site before getting involved with the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

safarigirl:
As for Bambam, you cannot find a woman facing domestic violence, that will admit to it. The abused always protect their abusers at first and swear on Obatala that no such thing is happening.

Let Bambam enjoy her status as a newlywed, their 'perfect marriage' needs to maintain that flow for a while. After all, all the divorced couples once told us everything was peachy in their marriages

You painted some serious reality at bold , have even created a pictorial version of it

Janosky:
cc: Emusan...

@4)
Joshua 22:22, YHWH is the mighty God.
Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is a mighty God.
Psalms 82:1,6. Man is a mighty God.
Emusan, how many mighty Gods are there?

@5). Why are you so daft?
John5:26. Jesus says "Just as the Father has life in himself, so HE has GRANTED the son to have life in himself"

Without Life the Father GRANTED His son, the son's glory na banza !!

Jesus says he received EVERYTHING from his Father. Matt28:18. John 5:26. Acts2:36.
Do you believe Jesus words?
Emusan, receive sense!!


@6).
"That all men should honour the son even as they honour the Father".
PROOF that the Son had no honour from men UNTIL his Father's APPROVAL and command to men.

@7). LIAR.
Jesus sacrificial death paved the way for his mediation between God & man, that's the sermon of Paul to Timothy.
Paul NEVER said Jesus is a man in heaven.
The last Adam & life giving spirit,Jesus Christ is the first fruits of those resurrected from death to heavenly life. Flesh and blood can not inherit heavenly life. 1Cor15:20-50.

Emusan Pharisees, stop lying.

The way Emusan is getting flogged this days ehn

OpenYourEyes1:
I love number 10 and 17. Well done sister!

your number 10 holds no water as other humans were worshipped too, number 17 says Mighty God not Almighty God

OLAADEGBU:
My question would be: Were there giants or Nephilim after Noah's Flood on the face of the earth?

not at all, they were simply children of those disobedient angels

QueenSekxy:
You are free to make yourself feel better.
Aren't you the big headed isi mango that kisses under udara tree?
All these guttersnipes sef.

i dont think u can win this guys not because you are not intellectual, but the fact that you listed some really cool character traits you have such as been prayerful , Godly , i suspect u are the bible reading type.

now ask yourself: how many women of nowadays possess such Godly virtues ?
this is why the so called bad boy philosophy these boys are advocating will continue to score high points.

now adays many ladies even detest a no sex relationship. so u get the point now ?

Emusan:
Self consolation!



Nice one!



They didn't translate it as MIGHTY GOD for human so that silly people like JWs will know only Jehovah is a MIGHTY GOD but was translated as MIGHTY GOD for Jesus who is also a human!



idiot don't divert our attention here...

If not because you're silly, shouldn't this tell you that for the root word to be translated as MIGHTY GOD for both Jehovah and Jesus means much more than what you people are claiming?




Yet your silly hand could type "If they translate as mighty Gods for those humans,..." so isn't Jesus human again?

Since u refuse to be wise.
Those humans are Mighty Gods too . cephi ni

ChristianNorth:
Anything that suits you. Even if Jesus come down today to tell you "hey! you got to kidding me" you would still argue with him.

We know the organisation you are coming from. We know they don't reason beyond what their Awake says

Simple question u cannot answer, don't be silly , is it Awake that said humans will be partakers of DIVINE nature ?

Emusan:
Now using Hebrew to spew nonsense...

Show me where it was translated as MIGHTY GOD for human and angels in your translation...

Then why was it translated as MIGHTY GOD for Jehovah and Jesus Christ?

Caught . the root word Is the same. If they translate as mighty Gods for those humans, silly people like you will still ask how many Gods we Christians have. Its clear the original thought when applied to humans has nothing to do with trinity .

A son will be born [as Human ] and called.

ChristianNorth:
Infantile argument. Was it translated from the hebrew word "Elohim"?

In Igbo we have Chi and Chukwu. They are not the same but both means God in English.

Stop saying rubbish

Psalm 82:6 humans are called Elohim. Do u agree to add them to the list of Gods, now ?

ChristianNorth:
Of course, you are a god but you are not divine . Colossian says "in Jesus dwells all the fullness of divine attributes bodily"

Simple question, who created the heaven and earth in Genesis? Of course, God.

But both of us know that anything that was made was made by Jesus. John said it, Peter said it and Paul also said it.

So Jesus is GOD.

You are not making any sense, @bold , will humans not become partakers of that DIVINE NATURE ? They must be Gods, add them to the list , then I will take you serious

Barristter07:

Are you so uninformed and ignorant not to know EL GIBBOA was applied to humans ?

. Emusan sorry

ChristianNorth:
You guys are just hopeless liars. You interpret words in the context it was made.

Saviour can mean anything but the saviour associated with Jesus was translated from the Hebrew word "messiah" or the Greek word "Khristos" (christ)

"His name shall be called Mighty God" and you still want to explain this away as mere title but your brainwashed brain didn't allow you to see how this still validates the deity of Jesus.

Obi of Onitsha is a title. He is given that title because he is the obi (King) of Onitsha. Only a god can claim the title "Mighty God"

Don't forget he is also called "eternal father". I wonder how you intend to explain this away.

You obviously have no idea what is been talked about . next time calm

Jehovah says beside me there is no saviour, but othniel was called a saviour ? How many saviour did isreal have ?

When u answer this, we know how many God they have as well