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Business › Re: Who Really Benefits From Capitalism? by cap28: 12:46pm On Jul 30, 2011

[quote author=My-Key link=topic=714883.msg8819832#msg8819832 date=1312022767]Capitalism is flawed because it is a system built on unsustainable debt. In the fantasy world of international Banking and Finance, economic growth=debt and gambling in the stock market with "derivatives" and "sub-prime lending" and such other bull s.hit. It's also called a "Casino economics", perfected in the United States of America and other Anglo-Saxon countries.

It's a system designed to keep a few people wealthy by shuffling debt around. Government officials have responded to the debt problem by adding more debt. Unfortunately, piling debt on debt cannot solve the problem. This is what a Ponzi scheme; Las Vegas-like secret casino looks like. To keep the pyramid-like structure from acute economic collapse, more and more money is doled out by those wishing to keep the speculation going.

Meanwhile, inequality is growing at dangerous levels in the United States;

http://www.austinweeklynews.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=3&ArticleID=3330

And America is indebted to China to the tune of 1.16 TRILLION DOLLARS. In effect, the US is bankrupt http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/18/news/international/thebuzz/index.htm;

The West is dying because of this unproductive "Casino economy" Only thing I see "growing" in the next few years is the rise of Fascism and the Far-Right.

FACT: 1. Westerners are tolerating immigration, because they think they are fine off as long as they got money. This entire financial system will collapse. THEN WE WILL SEE A HUGE UPRISING. When whites lose their jobs, and their materialist bubble burst, they will have to see the truth for what it is. They can’t decorate their inauthentic lives with 50 inch flat screen TVs when they lose their job.

2. Then, a charismatic fascist demagogue will emerge, Adolf Hitler style, whose final solution will include caricaturing black and brown immigrants as the source of all economic troubles (this is already happening with Geert Wilders, Pauline Hanson, the BNP, Vlamms Bloek, Tea Party, The Norwegian Mass Murderer,etc, etc, ).

3. Then after that, it will be time for another Holocaust; that Western speciality.
Diaspora people, you have been warned,[/quote]According to economic analysts - China is actually what is keeping america afloat because they (the chinese) continue to accept american treasury bills in exchange for their exports - one american economist actually stated that without the credit that america gets from china and other creditor nations it (america) would not be able to finance its military machine - if this is the case why does china continue to accept these T bills knowign that they are being used to finance america's war machine?

the points you raised above are interesting - the thing that i dont understand is why did the US govt decide to kill its manufacturing industry by offshoring everything to south east asia, didnt they know that this would result in massive unemployment? now that they've offshored the bulk of their manufacgturing industry can they make a u turn and decide to bring it all back and reindustrialise their economy and stop this crazy casino economy (as you correctly described it) that is fast turning into a major catastrophe?

I agree with your points about fascism - Adolf Hitler's rise to power began when the german economy collapsed, things were so bad in germany - people were eating out of dustbins and queueing for hours outside soup kitchens to get one meal a day. The jews were blamed for everything and hitler's storm troopers (thugs) went around beating up jews, smashing their shops and stealing their property, the german people who were envious of their prosperity sided with the storm troopers and felt the jews deserved to be taken down a peg. this carried on until Hitler legalised the compulsory deportation of all jews to concentration camps where they were worked to death, starved and murdered.

People think history can never repeat itself, unfortunately it has a nasty habit of doing just that.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Uk Recognizes Libya Rebels As Legitimate Government by cap28: 12:07pm On Jul 30, 2011

Builder:
[b][/b]HA!!, the west economy is in tatters, the US is on the verge is an economy breakdown, the eurozone is about to collapse due to massive ressession and massive borrowing by its menber states etc, in the light of this, these ba.stards gonna be aggressive with any african rising economy that dont fall in with their terms and conditions of trade ie one sided trade that favours them.

It just saddens me that Libya one of the strongest and richest states in africa is now turned to a war zone and the ecomony messed and bleeped up in a well and beautifully executed plan in stages, (1) spread rumours Gadaffi wanna massacre his people (2) UN approved intervention coup (3) unelected rebels installed , (4)gangsters, despoiler and evil sod given weapons of destruction by the west to kill its people while they drill oil for fun and AU is left to provide peace (4)IMF steps in and put libya in debt, u get my drift and libya becomes just like any other african economy

NATO have so far have killed children, women and men in there quest to remove Gadaffi from power and getting there hands on their oil well but u never read and see this on the news instead we are shown news of a white man in norway killing white folks with fertilizer and bibi gun, meanwhile somewhere in Libya, apache helicopers and sophisticated weapons are been used to slaugter innocent being yet the media never show those

My prediction for next year is as follows, Gadaffi wld be killed, the UK owned BP (british petroleum) will have its headquaters in tripoli and british preofessionals will swamp the libyan oil like locust, hence jobs for bristish people in libya, while libyan nationals who cant find jobs in their country will arrive on the uk to work for the minimum wage while the british media labelling them illegal immigrants

Noam Chomsky once said, In the quest for oil and power, the US and its alies will pull out the stops to prevent any really functioning govenment or peace from developing in the arab world

I agree with most of your points apart from:

Gadaffi being killed and BP moving in to take over Libya's oil industry.

NATO will have to take tripoli first and i dont beleive they can do that without sustaining massive casualties - which is what they are trying to avoid because of the backlash they will suffer from their respective populations, america is bankrupt and simply can not afford this war any longer, britain doesnt do anything without america giving authorisation first, the other european countries are totally fed up of wasting money on this misadventure, Berlusconi is being threatened with impeachment by his political opponents in italy if he carries on wasting money they havent got on this fiasco, spain is in dire straits financially, norway stated categorically 2 weeks ago that they would be pulling out of libya once and for all by the end of this month so the whole thing is falling apart.

Im impressed that you read Chomsky - i read his work too.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Uk Recognizes Libya Rebels As Legitimate Government by cap28: 11:54am On Jul 30, 2011

[quote author=Idi-Amin link=topic=722363.msg8819196#msg8819196 date=1312011861]Ode buruku!!! angry

It's africans like you that seat in front of BBC all day eating the western propaganda, and then drink water to push it down. Which Gaddafi is killing Libyans? keep believing the white man's lie. Just like they lied to you in 2003 that Saddam has WMDs and can destroy half the world in 45 minutes grin

and mugus like you chop am. Same story here, nothing different - It's NATO killing civillians now, dropping bomds everywhere. May the Almighty give Ghaddafi victory over these devils[/quote] grin

thanks for trying to educate that dummy.

the west are now facing a very big dilemma - how to get out of libya without facing even more humiliation - at the moment they have gone from saying that Gadaffi must leave libya to - Gadaffi can now stay - as long as he is not involved in running the country!!!!! see U turn grin

these fools underestimated the support that Gadaffi has from his people, the civillian population of libya are all armed with kalashnikovs and hand held Rocket propelled grenades, and they are ready to die in order to defend tripoli from a foreign invasion - if gadaffi were hated by his people - do you think he could risk arming 2 million men and women ? - this is what the west are terrified of - they are cowards, they know that they will face a blood bath if they try to invade tripoli using their own troops, it will become a repeat of vietnam and that will definitely lead to Obama's impeachment .

the only thing NATO and the americans know how to do is stay 40,000 feet above ground dropping bombs on pregnant women and babies, now that they have found that they cant remove gadaffi in this way they have started talking about negotiating with him.

Family › Re: My Husband Is Self Centred by cap28: 10:26am On Jul 30, 2011

9ce Hope:
Mrs,let me rcall to your memory dat d Bible says;consider urself fortunate wen u ar faced with various kind of challenges because wen your faith succeed in facin dem,then uve got d ability to endure.Moreso wot do we no?d present coms n we face n deal wit wot it coms wit but d only one who nos d end from d inception'GOD' has d gr8test solution to your problems.Call for his help n he is forever ready to help because God gives generously to d needy. Divorce is not d next option.

I really hate these pathetic religious fanatics - they are very low on common sense, they never take responsiblity for anything in life. LEARN TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND STOP USING THE BIBLE AS AN EMOTIONAL CRUTCH - JEEZ!!!

Family › Re: My Husband Is Self Centred by cap28: 2:24am On Jul 30, 2011

NAJALYN:
@poster, go into serious fasting and prayers to save your marriage. Talk to your husband and try to solve the problem. There is no problem God can not solve. Divorce is certainly not an option.

religious fanaticism and stup.idity all rolled into one - the above poster seems to suffering from both of those vices.

Yes she should fast and pray while the supposed husband continues to abuse and degrade her - does that make sense to you?

would it be better for her to sit tight and wait for him to infect her with various deadly STDs because according to you "divorce is not an option".

Family › Re: My Husband Is Self Centred by cap28: 2:17am On Jul 30, 2011

nigerian women are really going through hell, why would any woman continue to put up with a man who refuses to provide for his own family and then as if thats not bad enough cheat openly with another woman!! things that men get away with in nigeria they could only dream of getting away with in the west as no woman in her right mind would tolerate such bad treatment from a supposed husband and still stick around.

Business › Re: Who Really Benefits From Capitalism? by cap28: 1:40am On Jul 30, 2011

Nigeria is a capitalist country, it practices capitalism in a harsh undiluted form, so how come so many of you are trying to get the hell out of the place then? It has no safety nets for the poor, no unions or collective bargaining for its workers, only recently introduced a minimum wage, it has privatised almost all of its public utilities and has opened up the entire country to foreign investors, so why is almost everyone in the country poor? Why is it that the only people benefitting from this capitalist paradise are the politicians, retired army officers and their relatives, how come this free enterprise hasnt created innovation, efficiency and competition in nigeria?

Foreign Affairs › West Begins To Backtrack Over Libya by cap28(op): 11:09pm On Jul 27, 2011

The West Has Begun Eating Its Own Vomit in Libya
By Michael J.K. Bokor, Ph.D.

Tuesday, July 26, 2011

After creating the impression that Libya's Muammar Gaddafi has lost his legitimacy to continue ruling the country and must “go,” the West is now backtracking in desperation. It is changing the tune. Britain's Foreign Secretary, William Hague, said yesterday that “Gaddafi must relinquish power but[b] “may not have to leave Libya,” according to a BBC news report.[/b]

This statement, which reinforces a similar one made last week by France's Defence Minister, Alain Juppe, conflicts sharply with what we have heard since the West inserted itself into the Libyan crisis on March 19. We wonder what other surprises there are yet to come.

The “Gaddafi-must-go” refrain seems to be the favourite tune of US Foreign Secretary, Hillary Clinton, which she sings loud wherever she finds herself. But now that that tune has been changed by the French and British NATO partners, will she alone continue to sing the old tune; or will she also sooner than later turn to the new chorus?

This shift in stance suggests that the West is gradually coming to terms with reality. Its political rhetoric and military campaign in Libya are fraught with inconsistencieshich can't help the rebels overthrow Gaddafi. Nor can the International Coalition itself do so without paying a huge price. They must have known by now that dislodging Gaddafi from Tripoli will be more costly than bending over to eat back their own vomit—which is what they are doing. This turn of events doesn't surprise me at all.

The reversal by the French and British confirms the pervasive ambivalence that runs through the International Coalition's campaign in Libya—by loudly claiming that they were in Libya to solve purely humanitarian problems and not for regime change only to turn round to attempt doing that very thing. To say that Gaddafi can live in Libya is annoying. Who do the political figures in the West think they are to determine where a country's President should be? They are behaving as if they have any right to call the shots, which is nonsensical.

Also unbecoming is William Hague's suggestion that whether Gaddafi should leave or remain in his own country is a “question for Libyans.” Who are these LIBYANS? It appears that Hague and those who think like him cannot comprehend the Libyan crisis in its entirety to know that those fighting Gaddafi are in the minority and can't hold the majority to ransom just because they are being backed by superior military armaments from the West.

Conservatively, we can say that the anti-Gaddafi elements constitute just a third of the Libyan population of nearly 5 million. So, if Gaddafi's fate is to be determined by “Libyans,” should that onus be on the minority who are against him or the majority who support him?

According to William Hague, “What happens to Gaddafi is ultimately a question for the Libyans” (BBC News). If that were the case, why should the West not listen to the majority Libyans who are against the NATO military campaign against their country? Or the hounding of their leader?

Of course, the shift in stance seems to affect the rebel leadership too, now that they know removing Gaddafi from power won't come as easily as they had anticipated. And fully aware that taking Tripoli or Sirte (or any other territory with solid support for Gaddafi) can't be done without much cost, the rebel leadership is buckling to indicate that Gaddafi and his family can remain in Libya conditionally: to give up power and agree to certain conditions as part of a political deal to end the war.

Again, we view Hague's suggestion as a clear demonstration of frustration at the West's own inability to remove Gaddafi from power. It is becoming increasingly clear that the International Coalition cannot achieve its objectives in Libya without further exposing its own fundamental weaknesses. At different levels of engagement, its approach has turned out to be ineffectual.

We know that the International Coalition entered Libya with the express objective to solve the humanitarian problems created in mid-February when the uprising erupted in Benghazi against Gaddafi. But that urge quickly turned into a different objective when, instead of enforcing the “no-fly zone” mandate authorized by the UN Security Council Resolution 1973, the International Coalition took it upon itself to launch devastating airstrikes on anything perceived as pro-Gaddafi as part of efforts to actualize the sub-text of regime change.

In pursuit of this objective, NATO has taken over the anti-Gaddafi battle to fight on behalf of the rebels. While it destroys pro-Gaddafi forces and Libya's infrastructure from airstrikes, it paves the way for the rebels to fight on the ground. So far, more than 710 of such installations have been destroyed by the British Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, and Army Air Corps since the military action began on March 19, according to the British Ministry of Defence (BBC News, July 5, 2011).

Despite all that havoc, Gaddafi is still in power and his loyal followers in the major cities (Tripoli, Sirte, Zawiya, and Zlitan, among others) continue to reaffirm their support for him. Gaddafi has persistently refused to heed the demand that he should not only step down but must also leave his country.

By refusing to obey such an imposition, Gaddafi may be complicating matters as far as the AU's peace overtures are concerned; or he may be repudiating the Libya Contact Group's so-called political solution in the form of proposals for a ceasefire that he is to obey. But his stance further questions the justification for NATO's military campaign itself or France's back-door arming of the rebels, contrary to the UN Security Council's Resolution 1970.

Gaddafi has proved to be resilient and calculating enough to withstand the enormous pressure being exerted on him. Having already known the objectives of his opponents, Gaddafi has no other option but to fight on. Only then will the political powers behind NATO's mission come to realize that the Libyan conflict is a political one that must be solved politically.

In a clear demonstration of duplicity, the Libya Contact Group has suggested that it wants to solve the problem through political means; but with NATO's persistent bombing raids on Tripoli and other pro-Gaddafi territories, there is no iota of doubt in my mind that the West has nothing new with which to solve the problem. It has only adroitly changed its game plan—hiding behind the so-called political solution to intensify the airstrikes in addition to enforcing sanctions to worsen the plight of Libyan citizens in pro-Gaddafi territories.

The objective is to starve those territories of much-needed commodities like petrol—as we can tell from the long queues at petrol stations in Tripoli. The expectation is that when the people can't get what they need to live under Gaddafi's government, they will revolt and create conditions for NATO and the rebels to take advantage of.

Gaddafi is in no mood to be dictated to; hence, the conflict will persist for as long as it will take him to prove to his opponents that they have bitten off more than they can chew.

Now in its 6th month, the Libyan conflict has exposed the lapses in the International Coalition's militaristic agenda. Many instances confirm that the International Coalition entered Libya with no other plan but to remove Gaddafi from office and install in his stead the Benghazi-based rebel leaders grouped into the Transitional National Council. Continued,

http://www.modernghana.com/news/342004/1/the-west-has-begun-eating-its-own-vomit-in-libya.html

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 8:55pm On Jul 27, 2011

Amy's drug-addled ex-husband Blake Fielder-Civil left out of her £10million will

By Sara Nathan and Simon Cable

Last updated at 2:47 PM on 26th July 2011

Amy Winehouse left her drug-addled former husband out of her will to ensure he could not win a slice of her fortune.
The singer, who will be cremated today following a Jewish service for friends and family, made provisions to ensure Blake Fielder-Civil would not get a penny following their divorce in 2009.

Her fortune was estimated at £6million in the Sunday Times Rich List of April, but is now said to surpass £10million and growing.

Left out: Ex-husband Blake Fielder-Civil will not receive anything from Amy's will

Her acclaimed album Back To Black topped the iTunes chart in 17 countries yesterday, including the UK and the U.S., and is expected to top the official UK charts this week.

Legal experts said Miss Winehouse’s wealth would be divided among her immediate family, including her mother Janis, who is suffering from multiple sclerosis, father Mitch and older brother Alex.

More, Winehouse family confirms Amy's funeral will take place today as tributes continue to pour in
AMANDA PLATELL: Genius, but Amy's was not a life to admire

Her parents split when she was nine and are divorced.
A close family friend said: ‘Don’t expect everything to be straightforward. Janis is very sweet, but very meek and not in the best of health, Mitch is always the one in charge.’
FUNERAL SET FOR TODAYThe funeral of singer Amy Winehouse will be held today for "family and close friends".

The announcement by her grieving family came after police said they would need to wait up to four weeks for test results to establish a cause of death for the 27-year-old.

A spokesman for the family said: "The funeral will take place on Tuesday and will be a family and close friends affair."

He would not reveal details about the location or time of the funeral, which Jewish law states has to take place as soon as possible.

Scotland Yard said it would be waiting for the results of toxicology tests after the post-mortem examination was unable to establish a formal cause of death.

The results are expected in two to four weeks, a spokesman said.
The body of the singer was yesterday released to her family after they were forced to carry out the arduous task of identifying her at St Pancras Coroner’s Court.

Her parents broke down in tears as they visited a growing shrine outside their daughter’s £2.5million home in Camden Square, North London.
Last night, a close friend told the Daily Mail Miss Winehouse had put her affairs in order following her tumultuous two-year marriage to Fielder-Civil, 29, who is currently in prison.
She wrote the majority of Back To Black about their stormy romance and the friend said: ‘Around the time of the divorce, all of Amy’s finances were sorted out – and Blake can’t get his hands on any of it.
‘I am pretty sure that Amy does have a will. As a matter of course with record contracts, financial advisers will make sure that is done.’
Fielder-Civil was sentenced to 32 months in jail last month for burglary and possession of an imitation firearm.

Speaking from her home in Ruskington, Lincolnshire, his mother Georgette said: ‘He’s devastated and profiting from Amy’s death would be the last thing on his mind.’
Miss Winehouse’s friends and family will today attend a service at a North London cemetery before her body is cremated in Golders Green.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018757/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Blake-Fielder-Civil-left-10m-will.html#ixzz1TKyNMD00

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 8:14pm On Jul 27, 2011

Amy Winehouse left a £10 million pound fortune which will now be shared equally amongst her surviving family members: her mother, father and brother. Im happy to hear that, the tabloid newspapers - the sun and the daily mail are jubilating about how she left nothing to her ex husband Blake Fielder Civil - i think they are being cruel and presumptuous, the guy never asked Amy for a penny when they divorced and is currently so overcome with grief that he is on suicide watch, not everyone out there is a gold digger. The guy had his faults - he was a bad influence on Amy but ultimately i think he loved her.

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 9:58pm On Jul 25, 2011

AMY Winehouse's jailed ex-husband broke down in tears after learning of her death, and admitted yesterday: "I'm beyond inconsolable , my tears won't dry."
Anguished Blake Fielder-Civil collapsed on Saturday afternoon when prison officials called him from his cell to break the shattering news.

And after a sleepless night, the 29-year-old former junkie, who spent a stormy two years wed to the Back To Black singer, hailed her as the love of his life.

Affair , Sun story on pairBlake, serving 32 months for burglary and a firearm offence, said yesterday: "I will never ever again feel the love I felt for her.

"Everybody who knew me and knew Amy knew the depth of our love. I can't believe she's dead."

Staff at Leeds' Armley Jail have been told to keep a close watch on "shocked and stunned" Blake - a one-time music video runner.

Just weeks ago, tragic Amy told pals that Fielder-Civil, from whom she split in 2009, was the only person who could save her.

Her ex, jailed last month at Leeds Crown Court, was granted a special compassionate visit from girlfriend Sarah Aspin, the mother of his newborn son Jack.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3712356/Blake-Fielder-Civil-collapsed-after-hearing-about-Amy-WInehouses-death.html#ixzz1T9Wl4Bvt

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 9:39pm On Jul 25, 2011

shooze:
I have followed this thread with amusement because its so easy to sit in judgement of others when we are no better. I was an addict for 8 years and it was Not because I was irresponsible it was rather to escape from horrors I would rather not discuss here and I know how difficult it is to quit the addiction. No one wants to wake up lying in their own vomit or not knowing if u will even wake up . I was able to break it not because of any rehab but by his grace. For sagamite your constant repitition of the word cretin is beginning to make me wonder if you are not a crackhead yourself. @ davidlyan you are a "christian" all I can say to you is what would Jesus say?
@ coogar and his crew thank you

well done for having the courage to share this - and im happy you were able to fight and overcome the addiction.

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 11:56pm On Jul 24, 2011

Its so easy to stand in judgement on a person and become judge jury and executioner when you have never attempted to do anything remotely interesting with your own life (davidylan).

Its so easy to pretend to have all the answers when all throughout your life all you've ever done is copy ad nauseam what has already done before (davidylan)

mediocrity is celebrated as a desirable attribute whereas individuality, creativity, raw talent and genius is sneered at by people who have contributed nothing of note to humanity (davidylan)

Amy was a victim of a troubled upbringing - she was emotionally fragile, she was dependant on drugs and alcohol not because she was a reckless fool but because she saw it as a form of escapism from her troubled life.

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 6:51pm On Jul 24, 2011

ThiefOfHearts:
I like the cut of your jib, cap28

anyway why are people mentioning drugs when no one knows the cause of death yet?

It IS a shame though that despite her voice and great music, that her problems is what many will remember however

cheers sis,

no one knows the cause of death yet but its pointing towards an overdose as she bought cocaine, ketamine and heroin from a drug dealer the day before she died AND she had been drinking a lot , plus she was very depressed because of her split with her ex.

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 5:49pm On Jul 24, 2011

davidylan:
Odd. So living life on the "edge" is the same as destroying your own body with drugs of abuse, alchohol and cigarettes? thank God for "boring, straight-laced" lives! What do you mean by a "non-conformist"? You mean a completely irresponsible fool constantly flirting with jail and death?

the problem with you is that you have no appreciation for artistic genius - in your cocooned, boring grey world, sucess is all about adapting to the status quo ie doing some mundane boring 9 to 5 job and earning enough to pay the bills, getting a mortgage an SUV and then sending your children to school so that they too can learn to be robotic morons just like daddy - the beauty of the world we live in is that its made up of people with dynamic exciting views, people who are not afraid to push back boundaries and who love to explore new avenues - these kind of people are creative geniuses - a phrase you might be unfamiliar with!!!

Unlike you they prefer to explore the world on their own terms not on the terms of others, you will never understand them because you are not privilged to be a member of their exclusive club hence your extreme antipathy towards them, they belong to the class of alphas while you belong to the beta group.

There is nothing irresponsible about thinking outside the box, there is nothing irresponsible about not wanting to be a brain dead follower, it takes great courage to step outside the box of conformity and venture down the much more precarious path of unconventionality - Fela did it, John Lennon did it, Kurt Cobain did it and Amy Winehouse did it, when you chose to be different you expose yourself to a whole new ball game - you are now fair game for media intrusion, gold diggers, black mailers, the list is endless, in the end it all becomes too much and it gets to you -it takes a highly disciplined mind to be able to turn away from drugs under such extreme mental pressure.

you obviously have no understanding of this because you took the easy option - you chose obscurity, a 9 to 5 job and anonymity. Try walking in their shoes for just one day if you are man enough.

Why arent you living life on the edge? Seating here to chat on the internet is quite "robotic and boring" you know . . . its the kind of life you'd expect for "conformists" like me not you.

unlike you i am broadminded enough to live and let live, i dont stand in judgement on people who choose to live their lives differently from mine, there are many people who may take an instant dislike to how you live your life but an intelligent mind understands that in this life you can not expect everyone to have the same values and perspectives as you.

1. And SO freaking what? They were outstanding musical geniuses who added SQUAT WHAT to our lives? People with boring 9 to 5 jobs are the REASON you have an education, have an improved standard of living. They are the doctors who make sure we live in relative good health, they are the police-officers who maintain law and order, the scientists who put us on the moon, an aircraft in the sky and a car for us to drive (instead of riding horses).
Boring folks with 9-5 jobs are the reason you can turn on your taps in the morning and find water there, they are the reason you have 24 hrs non-stop electricity, have good roads, relatively cheap food and all the regulations that keep you safe. They are the scientists who work hard to improve our lives so we can live long enough to appreciate your "non-conformists". They are also your soldiers who die in relative obscurity so YOU can sit in your little cave and worship drug-addled irresponsible fools with the ability to strum a guitar.

this goes back to my earlier point about your lack of artistic appreciation - to you life is all about going to work, making money and coming home - your level of understanding is not yet evolved to the point where you can appreciate that music is an art form.
do you know the psychological effects of music on the human psyche? are you aware of the immense power of music and the lyrics that go along with songs? why do you think musicians in the western world are some of the most lauded and respected people in the world?

Have some more respect for these folks pls.

So we can agree that you hero-worship irresponsible people with a lack of self-discipline? At least that's a good start.

no , i respect talented geniuses who touch people's lives in a postive way - again something that is lost on an artistic phillistine like yourself.

Sigh. See above for the incredulity of calling doctors and lawyers boring.

this is why we live in a world made up of people with different talents and abilities, we cant all be doctors and lawyers, we cant all be firemen and nurses, everyone has been anointed with their own talent and everyone must answer to their respective calling in life - Amy Winehouse's calling in life was as a singer, songwriter and performer - there would have been no point in her going to work in an office - she would have just ended up frustrated - she answered her calling in life and gave the world her wonderful soulful voice.

Yeah . . . just imagining what the parents of Jimi Hendrix or Amy Winehouse are going through makes me even more determined to be involved in my child's decisions. I'm sure those parents (who definitely knew how to raise children) are SO GLAD they allowed their children to "pursue their own dreams" which included dying as an irresponsible, unfulfilled 27 yr old.

No thanks.

If you could only come down from your high horse you would discover that Amy had a troubled upbringing, she was a very emotionally fragile person and people like this are more susceptible to drug use.
Her family tried to be there for her but it is very difficult to erase the damage of a troubled childhood.

hmmm this is disgracefully ignorant. Fela's parents were extremely strict! When it comes to education, they remain pioneers in Abeokuta till today and they were certainly VERY demanding when it came to their kids educational and career choices. Fela and his father had a falling out over his choice . . .

would he have been better off as a medical doctor or a lawyer? i think not

he had the strength of character to stick to his guns and stick to what he was put on this earth to do, for that he shoudl be respected.

Yes Fela was a musical genius, but he died in relative poverty an aids patient. His two brothers? One a famous SAN and the other a professor of medicine and former health minister who both died at a ripe old age. I know which i would choose.

Fela acheived more in one lifetime than people like yourself will ever acheive in 100 lifetimes, despite coming from an affluent background he fought for the rights of the poor man on the street, he exposed himself to beatings, intimidation and abuse from a draconian and corrupt political system, he stared death in the face and was not afraid to put his own life on the line for what he beleived in , he was a a symbol of courage, strength and pan africanism - will anyone remember you for anything remotely positive when you die?

Yeah rather be stuck in the 18th century than end up like 21st century Amy Winehouse.

to be honest no one gives a damn about you or your views, you are just another anonymous wage slave, content to revel in a life of boring anonymity

Go to youtube, such talents are a dime a dozen. A youtube group re-arranged the song "you are the world" for Haiti, it was MILES better than the one recorded by so-called musical geniuses.

but not in the same league as Ms Winehouse - Some of the greatest names in the music industry like Elton JOhn and Mary J Blige have heaped praise on Ms Winehouse, people who are themselves great acheivers and yet you who knows nothing about music continues to criticise such a talent - perhaps you know something about music that Elton John and Mary J Blige dont!!!! lol!!!

Bill Gates has never won a grammy in his life . . . so what? Does he care? Yeah a grammy is all there is to life.

boring !! Bill Gates is a giant in his own field - what has his field of endeavour got to do with the entertainment industry?

But at least it wont lead to drug-addled death at 27 right? Amy died as a 20-yr old "superstar" . . . sure her parents are feeling proud right now. Perhaps they can now eat her awards or raise them as grandkids?

You will never understand - because your experience and understanding of life is severely limited - thank god the world isnt filled with narrow minded people like yourself!!!!

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 3:32pm On Jul 24, 2011

davidylan:
I'm sure her parents would beg to differ. I'm sure that just like me you would also prefer a well-rounded normal 27-yr old daughter with a simple job than the "exceptional success" of Amy Winehouse.

This generation really needs to re-define what they consider "success". Winning a bunch of essentially meaningless awards while living a life of pain, sorrow and constant loss is NOT my idea of success. Emphysema at 27 is NOT success, drug-addled brains residing in a crumbling body dependent on cocaine to survive is NOT success. Is she more successful than the 27 yr old married doctor wife with 2 normal kids?

Not everyone is cut out to be a boring, robotic conformist - some of the greatest icons in the world were non conformists who preferred to live life on the edge rather than end up living boring, straight laced lives like you.

What would the world have been like if the likes of Jimi Hendrix, JOhn Lennon, Kurt Cobain , Billie Holiday had ended up doing 9 to 5 jobs? - these people were all outstanding musical geniuses, sensitive, intelligent and in the case of John Lennon extremely charismatic but they answered their calling in life which was to become musicians, song writers and entertainers - they also INGESTED A LOT OF DRUGS - but that will never detract from what they acheived in their short lifetimes and what people continue to remember them for - drug taking is one of the hazards of the entertainment industry it takes extreme mental discipline to steer clear ffrom them if you are an entertainer. The idea that everyone has to end up as doctor or lawyer and live a boring conventional lifestyle is the reason why so many nigerian children end up living empty unfulfilled lives because instead of pursuing their dreams they merely pursue the dreams of their parents - that my friend is not how to raise children -children should be allowed to pursue their own dreams with the parents giving guidance when needed along the way.

Fela Kuti was a musical genius with outstanding talent - he will always be remembered for that irrespective of his lifestyle - imagine what it would be like if he had had parents like you who would hve insisted that he study to become a doctor or a lawyer, imagine the talent which would have been wasted and imagine the frustration that he would have experienced in an unfulfilled life.

You need to get out of your narrow mindset and free your mind, cos you sound like your stuck in the 18th century.

Amy winehouse was a success whether you want to accept it or not, it is no mean feat to sell millions of records around the world by the age of 20, you dismiss her acheivements without even understanding anything about her talent, she wrote her own lyrics and played musical instruments - can you do that? can you write songs that appeal to people from different, races, classes and cultures and make money from doing it as well ? you call a grammy award meaniningless - really - what have you done in your personal life that tops that?

by the way being a married doctor at 27 with 2 kids is so mediocre - there are thousands if not millions of people who have achieved that and much more - how many people do you know that have become critically acclaimed international superstars by the age of 20?

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 2:07pm On Jul 24, 2011

Sagamite:
Mental case, you are not going to say she was killed by whites for singing in a black way?

Mooron, that blames whites fro everything.

What was your dumb contribution again? Oh, her excuse is she took drugs because people let her down? Let her down how? By not wanting to work with her again?

Dumbshit, when next anyone faces any disappointment in life, then they should go and take drugs because tin-pot ediots like cap28 think it is justified.

lets compare the short but exceptionally talented life of Amy Winehouse
with the lonely, envious, miserable and empty life of self appointed internet warrior sagamite:

sagamite -
functional illiterate - check
inability to communicate or grasp basic concepts - check
callous motor park tout mentality - check
below average iq - check

Amy winehouse
award winning superstar by the age of 20, talented singer songwriter.

In a million lifetimes Sagamite you will never and can never acheive anything remotely close to Amy's success, so why dont you go away and do what you normally do every sunday in order to ease your frustration - go and have a long self-service - okay wink

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 1:42pm On Jul 24, 2011

ElRazur:
Perhaps I missed the memo. Please explain to me as to how this is so?

Sagamite isn't a junkie, he's living and breathing, keeping you entertained here (well, at least you keep replying to him). . . . How is a dead singer better than him?

wow! you must really have warped tastes - sagamite? entertaining - jeez

Isnt entertainment supposed to uplift you and make you feel good not make you lose the will to live?

Amy was exceptionally talented and touched many with her wonderful tear stained and soulful voice , sagamite - on the other hand despite many years of contributing absolutely nothing to anyone anywhere on the face of the planet will never be noticed the day he does everyone a favour and drops dead.

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 1:03pm On Jul 24, 2011

Aqva:
Time to go enjoy d weekend. Far away from the likes of morons like Sagamite who use the internet as a place to brag, meanwhile in real life they are dysfunctional, unsocialized piece of shiit.

A dead Amy Winehouse is better and will always be better than a legion of worthless living Sagamites.

co-sign bro, you totally hit the nail on the head

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 12:03pm On Jul 24, 2011

Amy was said to be devastated and ‘inconsolable’ after being dumped by her on-off boyfriend Reg Traviss, 34, just before she checked herself into The Priory rehabilitation clinic last month.
Traviss, who had previously turned down a marriage proposal from the star, was desperate to help Amy turn her life around, say friends, but when he realised she could not beat her demons he ended the relationship.
You will be missed: A fan lay a portrait of the star
Last night, as Winehouse's body was taken to a local mortuary, her heartbroken mother Janis admitted she believed her daughter's death had been 'only a matter of time' when they met just 24 hours before she died.
'She seemed out of it. But her passing so suddenly still hasn't hit me,' she said.

Instead, she said, she preferred clinging for comfort to Amy's own parting words at the end of an enjoyable day they had spent together on Friday.

As mother and daughter kissed on the doorstep Amy told her, 'I love you, Mum'.
'They are the words I will always treasure and always remember Amy by', she said.

Last night Amy’s father Mitch - who had predicted she would die if she failed to quit drink and drugs - said he was devastated but has vowed ‘not to crack up for Amy’s sake’.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018126/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Singer-heartbroken-Reg-Traviss-split.html#ixzz1T1GZQ4GP

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 11:56am On Jul 24, 2011

Tragic Amy Winehouse 'heartbroken' over split from Reg Traviss as she dies aged 27
By Lara Gould and Sarah Bull

Last updated at 11:26 AM on 24th July 2011

Troubled singer had a long battle with drink and drugs

Devastated after split from director Traviss last month

Father Mitch flies home from New York 'to be with Amy'

Autopsy could take place 'within next 24 hours'

Claims she bought cocaine, heroin, ecstasy and ketamine in the hours leading up to her death

The sordid details of Amy Winehouse's final hours emerged today, with claims that she bought a cocktail of narcotics including cocaine, ecstasy and ketamine.

Although the exact cause of death has not yet been released by police, Sunday tabloids have claimed she was seen buying drugs from a dealer in Camden just after 10:30pm on Friday.

A source told The People that she was seen buying substances, believed to be cocaine, heroin, ecstasy and ketamine leading up to the hours before her death.

She is also thought to have been drinking heavily, which may have been the trigger of a lethal concoction of drugs and alcohol.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018126/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Singer-heartbroken-Reg-Traviss-split.html#ixzz1T1EBAFF1

Amy was a fragile young woman who was let down by a lot of people in her life, it sounds like she couldnt cope with the split from her boyfriend and decided to end it all.

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 7:15pm On Jul 23, 2011

claremont:
Those of us who are "Armchair critics" should ask ourselves what we have been able to achieve with our own lives, rather than putting our hand in our jaws criticizing others. The mark Amy Winehouse made in her life time is what a whole generation of armchair critics will never make, who cares whether she died of drugs?! Did Fela Kuti not supposedly die of AIDS, did Micheal Jackson not die of a drug overdose; please let's not allow self-righteousness becloud our ability to reason logically. Amy was 27 and she made a mark on earth, what mark have you and all your generation been able to make in this rat race called life?!

thank you, nonentities who will never be rememberd when they die and who in a million life times will never acheive one zillionth of what this young woman achieved during her brief sojourn on earth continue to stand in judgement over her, fools.

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 7:11pm On Jul 23, 2011

RIP Amy

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Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 6:41pm On Jul 23, 2011

I cant imagine what her parents must be going through, they fought to try and wean her off her addiction to coke and heroin, they fought to get her away from the clutches of the drug addict she was married to, i remember her dad even saying that if she did not end her relationship with her drug addicted ex husband (blake fielder- civil) both of them would be dead within months - this must be a complete and total nightmare for amy's parents.

Music/Radio › Re: Amy Winehouse Is Dead by cap28: 6:21pm On Jul 23, 2011

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! shocked

This is tragic - this girl was so talented

Travel › Re: Uk Deports 61 Nigerians by cap28: 1:48pm On Jul 23, 2011

justwise:
@cap28

So you blame British and America for all the problems in Nigeria? Its actually sad that individuals like you blame everybody else for your problems rather than urself.
I have never seen a hypocrite like you in my life. Is just like all these Muslim fanatics who live on benefit in the UK, they are against everything British but they still live there with their 10-12 kids on free houses, free education, free food, they are against alcohol but they still enjoy taxes paid-in by those companies.

I will advice u to see your GP, you are getting worst by day.

Justwise i didnt say i blame britain and america for ALL the problems in Nigeria but i blame them for MOST of the problems in nigeria - they created the enabling environment for what we have in nigeria to exist, they laid the foundation, they financed, planned and in some cases executed the military coup detats (Murtala Muhammed and Buhari) which put in power compliant puppets to do their bidding - do you not think that they have a case to answer?
You sound like you get most of your information from the Daily Mail - keep up the good work mate!!!

Politics › Re: 5 Reasons Why America Is Worse Than Nigeria by cap28: 1:29pm On Jul 23, 2011

The OP makes a lot of very valid points but many posters simply can not get beyond their materialistic and consumer orientated perspective on life to see the truth in his words.

I dont think the poster is comparing the US to Nigeria in terms of economic development - america is an industrialised nation which built its wealth on the enslavement of african people and the appropriation of land of other weaker peoples- its an empire - that is enough for it to be a world leader, no if im not mistaken the op is referring to the adverse effect that life in america has on the average nigerian.

debt - i agree with the poster - debt has a terrible effect on the every day lifestyle of the average person in america, and unless you are a multi millionaire, have paid off your mortgage, are not shelling out huge tuition fees to pay for an education you cant escape it in america - debt is the reason you have to put up with doing a job you hate or working with people you despise - effectively you have to go out and work in order to get rid of it in order to prevent losing your home and your lifestyle - in other words you become a wage slave, this debt hangs over your head sometimes until after you die.

stress - for the average nigerian who wasnt brought up in the west life can be stressful because of how much harder you have to work in order to afford your standard of living - unlike nigeria when you can chill out with friends and family after a hard days work you may find yourself coming home to either an empty home with just the tv for company. If you are lucky enough to have friends and family around you they may be too busy to visit because they too are caught up in the treadmill lifestyle as well, a survey was carried out in the uk and it was discovered that blacks who live and work in the uk are more prone to suffer from depression and stress related illnesses than their counterparts who live much harder lives back home in nigeria!!!

professional devalue - unless you are a medical doctor, scientist, surgeon or trained in any other highly specialised field where there are a shortage of skilled personnel you will not be placed on the same level as american or uk trained professional and will be expected to start your training from scratch - which means going in to debt (see above) so i agree with this point as well.

prices - food prices are rising steadily all over the western world and are set to go through the roof the minuite the US dollar crashes and is no longer the world reserve currency, american economists are predicting that the dollar's value will drop so steeply that the end result will be hyperinflation -so all this so called cheap food that many of you continue to crow about will become a thing of the past .

cultural diffusion - american culture which is based on empty consumerism, sex, pornography, promiscuity and general vacuousness is all consuming and all present - it contaminates and destroys every thing it touches but above all it does not tolerate difference - anything that departs from the above is ridiculed or and ignored, also america is a society built on legalised racial segregation as a result america is divided along racial lines and people of african descent are relegated to a position of inferiority (although this is no longer practised openly) as a result of this a lot of nigerians born and raised in america will do everything possible to dissociate themselves from anything that reminds them of their culture - that is if they want to fit in with their fellow americans.
Therefore loss of language, sense of identity and culture is inevitable for most nigerians born and raised in america.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Rebekah Brooks Has Resigned. by cap28: 12:03pm On Jul 23, 2011

thameamead:
Murdoch no longer weighs any power in the Uk, he is finished, The Guardian has be applauded, if not for the Guardian's non-stop pursue of the phone hacking scandal , the British public won't have known Murdoch was the tyrant running the country.

But isnt he still running the sun and the times? don't both papers still enjoy the highest number of sales out of all the current british newspapers?

also isnt he still going to try again for the BskyB bid?

Travel › Re: Uk Deports 61 Nigerians by cap28: 11:31am On Jul 23, 2011

justwise:
To be honest with u, i have tired to figure out what goes on in your mind but i have failed.
You have being living in the UK for years if not all your life and at the same time, your hatred for UK and Western countries is beyond believe. Cap28, you have a choice of moving back to Nigeria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Tripoli. . those are places u can live comfortably and share your ant-UK/west view without sounding like a hypocrite.

The British govt do not hate me, Nigerian govt does, i will not be living in any country that i hate so much, enjoying freedom of speech, security, social welfare, education and other benefits that country provides.

I have every right to voice my opinion about a country that has destroyed the economy of my own country, if not for the SAP programmes and other economic reforms which were designed to destroy the nigerian economy and reduce the people of nigeria to mass poverty i would not have had to leave nigeria to live in this racist country.

Nigeria is a rich country and if left to run her own affairs without western interference would have been a great nation. These western parasites know this, they do not want any black nation competing with them and this is why they have remained behind the scenes fomenting coup detats all over africa, recommending disastrous economic policies and ruining the image of africa and africans all over the world.

Since the british have succeeded in destroying my country and making it unbearable for me to live in they are going to have to get used to more of us moving over here, i am one person and i alone can not change a system which is submerged in pure evil and corruption all sanctioned by the west , if more people were willing to stand up and fight these western stooges then i would consider moving back to nigeria but as it stands the average nigerian seems quite happy to keep living under a system of tyranny therefore my isolated opinion will have virtually no effect on the general opinion of average nigerians.

the british and american govt DO hate you, you know why? - they recommended to Buhari that he devalue the naira in 1984 - he refused, they recommended that he BORROW MORE LOANS from the IMF in 1984 which would have kept nigeria in a permanent debt trap - he refused, they recommended that he introduce SAP - which would have meant cutting spending on education, health care and other social services - he refused, when they realised buhari didnt want to sell out his own people and plunge them into a state of perpetual poverty THEY HAD HIM REMOVED AND THEY REPLACED HIM WITH A MORE COMPLIANT PUPPET IE BABANGIDA - is that the behaviour of someone who loves you? If they beleive africans should be more self sufficient and less reliant on external debt why FORCE BUHARI TO INCREASE EXTERNAL BORROWING ?? WHY ?? DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? Unless of course the motive is to destroy you economically?

You think because you are earning pennies in their country that somehow means they are doing you a favour? You are only here as a source of cheap labour and the minute labour becomes surplus blacks are the first to be fired or deported as is the case now.

is there really freedom of speech in this country? Louis Farrakhan is banned from entering this country because of his political views -did you know that? various black organisations have suffered police harrassment until they had to close down - did you know that?

many black men in this country who are arrested by the police die in police custody with no subsequent investigations into the matter - did you know that?

a black man driving is 10 times more likely to be stopped and searched by the police in this country -

i wont bother talking about employment - as im sure you know the deal.

britain uses the highest number of surveillance cameras to spy on its citizens than any other western nation - did you know that?

with regard to the social safety net - i dont know if you've been following the news but since the recession began in 2008 the govt are now using this as a great oportunity to gut the social welfare system - cuts are currently ongoing and by the time the tories have finished with it you wont recognise it.
The two tier educational system in this country is designed to prevent certain groups from moving up the social ladder - thats why they have state funded schools that a lot of kids graduate from without knowing how to read and write grammatically - these "schools" are designed to limit the educational aspirations of people from the so called lower classes and keep them poor , semi literate, obedient and ignorant while the upper classes (mainly whites) are educated separately in fee paying "independent" schools (which strangely enough are subsidised by the govt) - in those schoools they are taught that they are better than the people from the "lower classes" and they are groomed for higher positions in society - incidentally this is how Cameron, the milliband brothers, clegg, and virtually the entire conlib cabinet were educated.

the UK educational system is a two tier system of education which ensures that the ruling elite remain in control with everyone else accepting their lower status and remaining in it - thats why the UK is described as running a class based society. In fact this is the reason why the british govt introduced the welfare system (NHS, unemployment benefits etc) - they wanted to keep the lower classes obedient and prevent them from rising up to overthrow them - they did this by providing cheap housing, state funded education and healthcare, food and factory jobs for life - a hungry man is an angry man who is capable of doing anything - give the masses what they want and they will let you get away with murder

It is going to become even more difficult for people from poorer backgrounds to have access to university education with the increase in university tuition fees.

As someone said earlier britain has benefitted tremendously from immigration as they suffered huge labour shortages after the second world war, they opened the doors to immigrants from the carribean, africa in the 50s, 60s and right up to the 70s, the clamp down started in the early 80s in order to limit the flow of immigrants (but only the black and brown immigrants) but now that they do not need black and brown immigrants any longer they have begun their crackdown.

with the exception of nigeria all the above countries you mentioned are all either under US/UK military attack or occupation because of the west's desire to access natural resources or because of their strategic location (Somalia lies adjacent to a major shipping route which the US want control over, they also have large untapped oil reserves).
why is this so difficult for you to see?

Travel › Re: Uk Deports 61 Nigerians by cap28: 9:49pm On Jul 22, 2011

Justwise my man i just made my point, but it went over your head my friend cheesy

why defend people who hate you and your progeny?

remember how they came to "own"australia, america, canada, south africa and new zealand, they should be grateful that we are in their country after everything they have done to us dont you think?

Travel › Re: Uk Deports 61 Nigerians by cap28: 9:31pm On Jul 22, 2011

justwise:
They were deported cos they were illegal immigrants, stop waving your race card here.

If it was about color of skin then your backside would have been kicked out of the UK yrs ago.

Let me ask you again, the same question i asked you about a yr or 2 ago (if u remember) When are u moving back to Nigeria judging by your ant-UK/West views? I asked you this question about 2yrs ago here and u said very soon.

Come oh, Just dumb or whatever you call yourself, what is your problem?

Do you see UK border patrol people looking for white south africans, white zimbabweans, australians and new zealanders who do not have UK residency?

I will move back to nigeria when Shell, Exxon Mobil and Chevron clean up the environmental devastation they created in the niger delta area and when IMF and the world bank release their stranglehold on the nigerian economy - keep carrying whitey's sh.it - punk.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Rebekah Brooks Has Resigned. by cap28: 8:10pm On Jul 22, 2011

yeah, but with a hefty £3 million settlement.

murdoch will just assign her to another segment of his vast empire.

Murdoch has the british govt in his pocket so nothing spoil, those bitches are so scared of him they had to modify the kind of questions they asked him during that their so called inquiry, murdoch own these bitches - don't for one second think that he's finished.

bitches like Cameron and Brown are on his payroll- they genuflect before him, dont you find it strange how the whistleblower has suddenly "committed suicide" grin

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