₦airaland Forum

cicero:
We are talking about Fela and I am saying he took from Nigeria more than he gave and you call that garbage. I am not talking church neither i'm i comparing Fela to Pastors. The question was 'Is Fela Really A Nigerian Icon' and I am saying know with reasons. Even his eldest daughter faulted him for allowing her drop out of school . Fela was busy singing and telling us what we felt good hearing, but he never spared a thought for the future of the Nigerian youth and the future.

About who a Nigerian icon is, I don't really know, but I would think a Nigerian that you could comfortably point your children to with pride as someone you would want them to emulate. Fela is not that Nigerian.
Read the following excerpts my friend. Good night

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/adprint.asp?blurb=3

cicero:
Fela sang those things, but he was not the only one fighting against corruption and government's high handedness then. Now I appreciate his creativity and I probably followed Fela more than you, but have you estimated the cost of the youths that lost direction following him?

I am not talking about being a pastor, it's a free world and if Being Intimate as a hobby is your thing, you are certainly free to,

But if it was in more civilized societies that he plied his trade, and followed his igbo and sex-with-anything passion, sure he would have retired from some prison

eddy1977:
@ caps28

God or Allah (depends on your faith), bless you for sharing about my home country.
dont mind that other guy who is arguing with you.if he had a family member in the eastern congo like me,he would have understood the pain of loosing family.

my prayer is that either etienne tshisekedi or vital kamerhe,wins the elections.they may usher our nation into a new era.

if joseph kabila was a good man,a man of justice and peace,we the congolese could have supported him.but the mofo is so dumb,and clueless.no management skills,no communication skills,no nothing.

at this point,all we want is justice and peace for all.

Amhatu:
@cap28, Not so.

First,  You have been caught in the lie. You posted a video on The Congo  some time back and had no Knowledge but relied on the person on the video in your attempt to debate me with out knowing anything only relying on  the video you posted ( that's very Lazy).

You did not post any follow up to point out particulars such as very important events that happenned in Rwanda that carried over to CONGO(DR),
you just posted a video and hope people believe oyinbo(muzungu) you are a sad case. (start learning to believe in your self)

Second,  The individual in the video  does not understand French,Lingala,kingwana,Tshiluba or other Kongolese Languages so how can he know or give any balance view?


Don't shame Yourself.





If anybody is C.I.A. it is you .


Any African From Tanzania,Nigeria,Rwanda,Kenya,Zambia,Congo(DR),Congo in 1996 know very well what took place in DRcongo.


You have no Facts as always just posting your opinions. You better be lucky you are not in Congo or Nigeria you should be arrested for your lies.

Amhatu:
What a Joke, Americans do not speak French,Lingala,Kiswahili,tshibiluba,Kingwana, and other Congolese languages. Therefore how could they tell whats going on in Congo.

Irresponsible Lazy people post videos showing opinions that are not objective and more of a demonization campaign targeted at the next Congolese election (Specifically Joseph Kabila).

The persons posting the videos are to lazy to do their on research rather they rely on foreigners not of Africa or African Heritage to tell our History or story.

Certainly America did not replace Mobutu with Kabila. For over 30 years Laurent Desire Kabila was fighting to overthow mobutu (research and get your facts straight).

Beaf:
Would you ever dream of seeing a European ex-president in a cage, even if he was the worst of tyrants?
Those guys know how to operate really smoothly. I can imagine if they had to execute someone (which they don't), it would be like:

martinosi:
ROFLAMO @ Tayo-D! CAP28 has eaten this guys lunch and biten his Ignorant A*** lol!!!

But lets be real, this guy is an Ignorant Nigerian, He does not know
that just 45 years ago, if his parents or gran-parents had come to America they would have been riding at the back of the bus, drinking from segregated water fountains and wishing to retuen back to NIGERIA as the earliest date possible lol!!!

Tea Party is Controlled Opposition


The Tea Party was created to be a  mouse trap for millions of people that were waking up and beginning to ask the right questions and stand up for themselves.

[Now] Tea Party constituents are used as useful idiots, 'demanding' the very policies that are impoverishing them.



by Richard Evans
(henrymakow.com)


The Debt Ceiling / Default threat is a standard Punch and Judy script debate.  The ceiling's raised every year - sometimes twice a year.  It's been raised 10 times since the year 2000, and 74 times since 1962.  Usually they don't want the public to know so it's back page news.  When they make it a big deal like this year, it means they want to drastically cut social services.

[b]So they play this old  'good cop, bad cop' routine.  The Republicans are the bad cop that pretend to gridlock raising tax on the rich.   The argument is reversing the Bush tax cuts will prevent new job creation.

The Democrats play "good cop" by offering to cut social security or other benefits in return for 'compromise' on raising taxes.  When it's all over, the imaginary "ceiling" is "raised", and consumers are seeing less of take home out of their paychecks.

Obama,  Capitol Hill, and Bernanke all serve the same master. Governments don't plan and dictate economic policy anymore.  The financial sector does. Who is the financial sector? It's Wall Street in America; the city of London in England, the Bourse in France and Frankfurt in Germany.  This combine has taken over the authority of de facto centralized economic planning bureaucracies. They now control governments through international bypassing of local laws, and they've got all the politicians in their pocket. Central banks are controlled by financial interests - board members and controlling share holders aren't elected by consumer votes. . So they are not beholding to the public.[/b]

It started in the 80's with massive 'de-regulation' that kept the financial sector under control since they'd tried the last attempt at global coup d'tat between 1929 and 1933.

When you know all this, it becomes obvious how the Tea Party constituents are used as useful idiots, 'demanding' the very policies that are impoverishing them.

TEA PARTY

What is the Tea Party?   For those who can remember 2006-2008 before the election, there was a year where a lot of people seemed to be waking up to the news that both parties were screwing them.   In the election of 2006 the Democrats regained seats through voters who wanted the military adventures and deficit spending stopped and the troops recalled, and peace. 

No sooner than the election was done Democrat House speaker Nancy Pelosi went on national TV with Bush and Cheney to let voters know there would be no change in foreign policy.  Alienation of voters by both parties reached an all time high by March 2007. 

That's when Ron Paul appeared to lure them back into the 'magic of believing' in the election circus.  Supposedly Libertarian, Ron Paul actually led millions of voters back to the Republican ticket.

Then was the economic shock, crash, and 'Bailout' - TARP.   It was a done deal as Bush's last act of treachery before handing off to Obama, Wall Street and the 'mysterious offshore speculators'.

So by the summer of 2009, the growing pool of alienated voters and half awake, half asleep people were herded into this 'grass roots phenomenon' called the Tea Party.

I learned about the local Tea Party group here in town and very quickly recognized what I'd seen years before when I was involved with the Left local organizations in the past.   I assure you that anywhere more than a few people attempt to become organized to influence voting or political issues on any level, they will be infiltrated by at least two professional organizers skilled in hijacking action groups and turning them into controlled oppositions.   

That is what the Tea Party was from the beginning.  The Tea Party was created to be a controlled opposition mouse trap for millions of people that were waking up and were beginning to ask the right questions and stand up for themselves.

In July 30's article, Fozdyke wrote, "If current debts were simply wiped off of the books the only tragedy would be the destruction of the 'too big to fail' banks. While politicians call that a catastrophe it would actually be freedom for millions of disenfranchised debt-serfs. That's why it must not happen - and won't!"

"Wages will continue to be cut even as taxes are increased to service the debt owed to the Banker Lords. Politicians everywhere are bowing and scraping before their Lords, promising deeper cuts and higher taxes. This is as it should be and will effectively cripple economies around the world."

[b]Unbeknownst to American consumers (ie, labor, tax payers), The exponential debt system crashed years ago and has been running on artificial life support since 2008.  "Jobless recovery" is a euphemism for depression. The financial interests that own the politicians and the Fed - well aware the jig is up - ordered their lackeys in government and media to make sure all losses are borne by the consumer without them knowing it for as long as possible. In fact  Obama and Bernanke have been dutifully carrying out the order  to lower US wages by 30%.  How do we know the percentage?  That's how much it takes to bring US wages on par with the rest of the hemisphere. In America, that's why your grocery, fuel, and utility bills have been steadily rising at an alarming rate since last year.

Once you know that Bernanke's job has been to lower the US standard of living (wage value) 30% between 2006 and 2013 he no longer looks like a fumbler.  Media encourages the public to think politicians and bureaucrats 'foul up' because they're 'stupid'.  It only looks that way if you believe their job is serve and protect the consumer.  On the contrary.  We are just 'human resources', i.e. livestock.[/b]

DEFAULT

So what do consumers have to lose if Capitol Hill defaults?  What would happen?

Default means the dollar would not be acceptable tender again until the United States paid.  How have they been paying?  They have been promising the labor of Americans that have to pay taxes. That means 18-40% of the labor of those just starting careers will go to the Federal Reserve combine for the next four decades of their lives - just to pay the interest on debt incurred this year.

When they "raise the ceiling," that means they've taken it out of the future pockets of American taxpayers. US money isn't backed by gold or natural resources.  it's backed by HUMAN resources.

Remember it's the Globalist financial sector calling the shots through their vassal politicians.  The only reason they would tell the politicians to actually default is this:  it will mean they want to collect the "debt" in privatization of public sectors.  A serious example of hostile privatization of public assets was after the Soviet Union fell down, and the Russian government handed over natural resources like OIL to private 'investors'.  The buyers were called "the Oligarchs" and they were nothing but proxies for House Rothschild.

Will they default this time?   I don't think they will so long as the US Military occupation of the Middle East is necessary in their unfolding plans.  So I expect default will come after the next big war.

Hertsnite:
Why is it ok for Afircans in Zimabwe for example to say that White people are not welcome in their land, yet it's ok for millions of Africans to come over to Europe? How would you feel in Nigeria if millions of unskilled white people descended on Lagos for instance ?

bin gbagbo:
@ cap 28 where is the bloodclaat video? shittz!

Libyan rebels killed their commander for secret parley on war's end with Qaddafi
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report July 29, 2011, 1:48 PM (GMT+02:00) Tags:  Libyan rebels   Muammar Qaddafi   France   Britain   NATO   

Gen. Abdel Fatah Younis, commander of the Libyan rebel forces fighting Muammar Qaddafi, was put to death on the orders of Mustapha Abdul Jalil, head of the rebel Transitional National Council, who wanted him out of the way before the start of peace negotiations, debkafile's intelligence and military sources report.

His execution was set up by TNC officers who first abducted him and the two colonels who never left his side. After they were removed to a point 20 kilometers east of the rebel stronghold of Benghazi, all three were shot in the head. The killers brought the bodies back to Benghazi to prove the TNC chief's orders had been carried out and collect their payment.[/b]

Younis, a former interior minister, defected to the rebel side in February after working with Qaddafi for 40 years. The circumstances of his death were deliberately confused by Benghazi.
Our sources report that the TNC chief Jalil wanted the powerful Younis out of the way for good before negotiations for the transition of government in Tripoli began. Jalil is a weak figure who enjoys scant respect – even among the Libyan tribes supporting the insurgency. He was clearly concerned that at some point in the negotiations, Gen. Younis's name would be put forward as the most suitable candidate for leading rebel representation in the post-war government in Tripoli, Qaddafi would then appoint his son Saif al-Islam as his successor and the two would run the future government as a team.
This plan is revealed here for the first time. It was already taking shape at the highest levels in Washington, Paris, Moscow and Berlin when it was derailed by the death of Younis. French foreign minister Alain Juppe brought the plan to London on Tuesday, July 26 to help the British government climb down from the demand to keep the war going until Qaddafi quit and departed Libya.

And indeed, the Cameron government agreed to line up behind Washington, Moscow and Berlin and conceded that the Libyan ruler would stay in the country after he stepped down.

But then, on Thursday, the TNC announced the death of the rebels' military chief. It was followed by a claim that pro-Qaddafi loyalists had shot him to impair rebel military capabilities and punish him for defecting. Jalil claimed that Younis had been called to the Benghazi headquarters for questioning but never arrived, tacitly encouraging the rumors that he had been a double agent who secretly served Qaddafi after his defection and made sure the rebels lost the war.
Those rumors were disseminated as a smokescreen to cover Gen. Younis' warning to the rebel administration in closed meetings - starting four months ago - that they would never defeat Qaddafi's army in battle and they would do well to stop the bloodshed and sit down to work out a power-sharing deal.

The general explained that were it not for the NATO air umbrella and Qaddafi's fear of the losses air strikes would inflict on his army he would have trounced rebel forces in eastern and western Libya and retaken Benghazi in less than a week.

When the TNC leader Jalil refused to heed these warnings and cut rebel losses, Younis gave his field commanders a free hand to negotiate a ceasefire with their opposite numbers on the pro-Qaddafi side. As a result, from the second week of May, an informal truce descended on the main battle fields of Misrata and Brega.

From time to time, rebel headquarters in Benghazi sent out officers with orders to tackle Qaddafi forces in defiance of the truce. But they were no match for the superior strength of government troops and were forced back - proving Gen. Younis had got it right.
When negotiations for ending the conflict hove in sight, Jalil suspected Gen. Younis of planning to beat his own path to Qaddafi and bypassing both the TNC delegation and the NATO powers. The TNC leader resolved to protect his own standing and bid for power by scotching the threat posed by the general. 

http://www.debka.com/article/21162/

norrisman:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/07/30/libya.war/

NATO bombed Libya state run broadcaster and killed 3 of its employees in an attempt NATO says is to prevent terror broadcasts. This is getting so comical it is almost unbelieveable. Terror broadcasts? bloody hell!

''The strike, performed by NATO fighter aircraft using state-of-the art precision guided munitions, was conducted in accordance with the U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973, with the intent of degrading Gadhafi's use of satellite television as a means to intimidate the Libyan people and incite acts of violence against them''

Straight up comedy!

felifeli:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-07-29-libya-rebel-chief-slain_n.htm


Thousands marched in Younis' funeral procession on Friday, as men draped the rebel tricolor flag over his coffin and carried it to a cemetery, where he was buried.

Younis' son, Ashraf, broke down, crying and screaming as they lowered the body into the ground.

"We want Moammar to come back! We want the green flag back!" he shouted at the crowd, betraying his frustration with the months of chaos in the country and a desire for a return to normalcy.

At the funeral, Younis' nephew Mohammad al-Obaidi called Younis a martyr and a champion of the Libyan uprising, while the crowd broke into chants of "The martyr is God's beloved" and "Allah is Great."


Cry the beloved country !