₦airaland Forum

davidylan:
We all know the media in Libya are heavily controlled with regard to what they are allowed to cover. the rebels recently banned the western media from the Misrata front . . . now those are facts.

lol what a miserable excuse.

Must be Israel's fault no?

that was a genuine error for which NATO has since apologized. Would you have rather Ghaddafi slaughtered them in their thousands instead? Assad is busy slaughtering more babies, i dont see you as concerned for them.

where is your evidence that gadaffi slaughtered civilians?

there are hundreds of videos on the internet showing these same rebels slaughtering and hanging black africans and even doing cannibalistic acts that are too graphic to be placed on a discussion forum - these are the people that your NATO heroes are backing!!!

davidylan:
The free-market system is only found in democratic countries. china has no free-market system.
All systems can never be perfect, but at least democracy is 100000x better than the primitive quasi-religious dictatorships that govern predominantly muslim nations. It is instructive that the only country where arabs are freest is Israel (a democracy!). If you were to accept any visa today, would you choose to go to saudi arabia? Think on your answer.

You really are a joke!

the so called free market system that you extol has brought untold misery, suffering and poverty in africa, multinationals are ra.ping your continent dry and sharing the proceeds of their ill gotten wealth with your leaders and you babble on about free market.  The freemarket system is the reason that shell can cause environmental devastation in the niger delta and not have to compensate displaced fishermen in the area, its also the reason that they come into nigeria and buy up public utilities and then make huge profits by increasing the cost of their services, its also the reason why multinationals can pay nigerian employees starvation wages all with the backing and cooperation of nigerian leaders because of the fact that labour laws are either too lax or non existent.

this democracy you speak of is a mirage - even in western nations leaders pay lip service to it.  in america many civil liberties are being repealed, many western nations are fast becoming police states and many other rights which people have taken for granted are gradually being taken away under the pretext of countering terrorism

Libya had the highest standard of living in africa, with a social welfare system which provided unemployed people with housing and feeding allowance, health care and education is free in libya and no one is homeless.  Scholarships to train in foreign universities are available to anyone who is interested in furthering their education.  Libyan women are the most educated women in the arab world with more of them undertaking university education than even their own men. Life expecatancy in libya is 69 years, compare that with the cess pit known as nigeria which is a supposedly democratic nation - you make me laugh.

You are a big joker for saying that arabs in Israel are the freest, Israel is a racist nation that practices apartheid against arabs, why dont you try telling all those palestinians that have had their homes bulldozed by the IDF how fantastic their lives are and see what they will tell you, how about all those children that are being shot at point blank range by the IDF - you are beyond a joke

davidylan:
Thats quite daft. How can the western media "show it" if they are NOT allowed into the country?

what planet are you on?

who told you the western media are not in libya?  who has been covering the war from benghazi?  How did all those CNN, al jazeera, BBC and sky correspondents get into benghazi to cover whats going on there?
first of all there are two camps covering this war - the pro gadaffi western journalists like Russia Today and various other independent media corporations some of those journalists are in tripoli and are covering what is happening there - thats how this clip was recorded, then you have the anti gadaffi journalists who are restricted to benghazi and areas where the rebels have occupied, these journalists are not allowed into tripoli and all areas under gadaffi's control because they could pose a threat to the security of gadaffi controlled areas.

url=http://www.themediabriefing.com/article/2011-02-24/libya-could-relax-ban-on-foreign-journalists-on-friday]Libya could relax ban on foreign journalists on Friday[/url]
Libya is reportedly planning to allow some Western journalists to report from the capital, Tripoli, tomorrow, but has warned those who have already entered without proper government accreditation that they face immediate arrest and will be considered al-Qaeda collaborators. Foreign media have been trying to gain access for the past week to cover the violent protests that have gripped the country,,

Hmm you expect the western media to show this by magic if they are not allowed into Libya? Last week the rebels banned all media from the western front in Misrata too. Dumb islamist.

so you expect gadaffi to allow agents and spies of NATO to come in and point out where gadaffi is located so that NATO can finally acheive their aim?

I'm just wondering why i didnt see you with any pictures of the thousands slaughtered before NATO's intervention. But of course . . . expecting you to be objective is like waiting for Syria to stop killing yet more thousands . . . you must have missed that too.

how did the uprisings in Syria start? who started them and why?
So dropping bombs on babies is a brilliant idea?

tom28:
Kola Boof did claim she had an affair with Osama Bin Laden

Yes she was his mistress for some years, her book really opened up my eyes to the persecution many black africans suffer at the hands of arabs.

davidylan:
and where were the threads for those being slaughtered and violated by Libyan forces?
where are the threads for the thousands slaughtered in Syria?

Instead we get a thread on an erroneous attack on Tripoli for which NATO has apologized?

Is anyone else really bored by the predictable arab propaganda?

You must be one f.cked up MF if this is all you could come out with after seeing this video, you better pray that you are spared this kind of misfortune you animal.

NATO continues to murder innocent libyans with impunity, in this video libyan babies are the  latest victims of this murderous onslaught:

Please note viewer discretion is advised:


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queensmith:
Cap- arent the IMF and the Paris club 2 separate things??

Yes, they are two seperate organisations, but they work in a collaborative manner.  The IMF offers loans to countries (subject to various conditionalities) and when these debtor countries are unable to keep up with the debt repayments or the conditions which are attached to these loans the IMF refers them on to the Paris club which are a group of 19 western nations which draw up alternative debt repayment mechanisms and conditionalities.

So is the country incurring interest on the 12billion its meant to pay back in addition to the public assets its giving away?

No, nigeria has already paid back the $12 billion (it did so within one year) no interest accrued on that figure, but its still selling off its public utitlities to various foreign investors as part of the entire negotiated deal.

Since all okonja REALLY did was get the sum back to the amount Nigeria owed in the first place- why is it widely publicized Nigeria benefited from debt relief?

because most nigerians are pig ignorant and dont understand that the western international banking system is used by western nations to covertly appropriate the wealth of sovereign nations.

in a way- we cant really blame okonja- if she doesnt do it, someone else will. Soo far the whole 'democratic' govt of Nigeria have only been successful in carrying out the western worlds developing economy crippling agendas.

actually thats not true, we have much more capable and sincere economists in nigeria who would not have kow towed to the western predators, part of the reason nigeria is in this mess in the first place is because of a debt inherited from the irresponsible and reckless borrowing of the Shagari regime, when Buhari took over the reins of power he was advised by the IMF to take on loans in order to settle these debts owed to the west  but Buhari REFUSED to do so and instead sought advice from his economic team who advised on alternative ways of settling our debt.
Buhari imiposed a freeze on all foreign loans, employed economic policies which would boost nigeria's revenue and was able to pay off almost 50% of our debts without borrowing a penny from the IMF - this man succeeded in doing what no other nigerian head of state has ever done in nigeria's history, but see what happened to him, before anyone knew what was happening he was toppled by babangida who went on to borrow huge sums of money from the IMF and set nigeria onto the road of economic destruction which we are yet to fully recover from.

                                               

What im mostly curious about is what exactly has been bargained with the Paris club for them to finally decide to release the debt? Since they initially refused during Abachas regime what did okonja or the appointment of okonja do to change things?

I smell a military base somewhere. . . , . . . . . can anyone confirm if theres currently a US base in naija??

Nigeria paid $12 billion as part payment of an inflated debt the bulk of which was made up of interest.

Nigeria also agreed to divert govt revenue  earmarked for healthcare, education and other social services into servicing another debt which it owes to other internatinoal lenders - i think this additional figure is in the region of $10billion dollars.

In addition nigeria agreed to sell off its public utilities to foreign investors and devalue its currency.

As far as i am aware there is no US military base in nigeria, however an american naval warship is currently stationed off the coast of the gulf of guinea as part of the bilateral regional security agreement that jonathan entered into with the US recently to fight terrorism - which to my mind is merely a pretext for the real reason that they are there ie to "secure" the oil reserves
It is however very likely that following the attack on libya by NATO the door is now open for the US to locate military bases on the african continent using a specialised military command centre known as AFRICOM. AFRICOM is actually coordinating the attacks on libya along with NATO as we speak.

queensmith:
hey Cap- i see what you mean about the WB- monetary policies. But i thought okonjo iweala's bid allowed for debt relief FROM the debt Nigeria was in? What agreement was made that allowed $12 billion back to the paris club? I thought they lost out?

Okonjo Iweala negotiations allowed for nigeria to pay $12 billion dollars in partial payment of an original debt which was said to have amounted to $30 billion dollars.  The bulk of this debt consisted of inflated interest which continued to accrue even when the nigerian govt had tried to negotiate a moratorium (or freeze) on the outstanding sum that was owed.  The foreign predators,  REFUSED to place a freeze on this interest and as a result the original sum owed began to inflate until it amounted to a staggering $30billion - the abacha govt actually refused to pay this inflated figure and tried negotiations but again the paris club werent interested.  

It was only when Obasanjo assumed office in 1999 and brought in this woman that negotiations began once more and this time Okonjo Iweala "negotiated" this ridiculous deal in which the nigerian govt agreed to pay a whopping $12 billion instead of the inflated $30 billion - but only as a part payment, as if that wasnt enough she also agreed to a number of austerity measures such as the selling off of valuable public assets to foreign investors for pennies on the pound, devaluation of the naira, cuts in public spending on education and health care and other social services, plunging average nigerians into a state of grim poverty.  

Now i ask  you this - if someone steals my credit card and runs up a bill of £10k on it, and i call you the credit card company and say - look i cant pay this - someone else ran this bill up and you turn around and instead of canceling the card continue to charge me interest on it - who is at fault?

the paris club continued to charge nigeria interest on a loan which had been squandered by a previous regime despite pleas by the abacha regime to freeze the interest -  does that sound like relief from debt or a case of a shylock money lendder trying to extract more than he got from you originally?

Now this supposed debt releif that they claim to have given nigeria is actually not debt releif but a decision on the part of the paris club to accept slightly less than the inflated debt that they were asking for in the first place - the whole debt releif claim is a complete myth.

Okonjo Iweala merely acted as a facilitator in the (illegal) transfer of a huge chunk of nigeria's wealth into the hands of the IMF, the world bank , multinational corporations and corrupt members of the nigerian elite.  What did the average nigerian get out of this? - i will tell you - a collapased education and health care system, mass unemployment and more poverty and i can tell you that she has been invited back by JOnathan to reprise her earlier role all under the guidance and isntructions of her masters at the world bank and the IMF.

^^^ @saggy

do you see what i mean ajegunle boy? you exhibit nothing but  unadulterated illiteracy and an  inability to engage intellectually, suprise me for once and form an intelligent sentence, go on boy, suprise me.

You see the refinement and intelligence that you so obviously lack comes with exposure and enlightenment - two attributes that are so obviously lacking in you.

^^^^

illiterate, do you understand how the world bank operates?

Do you understand how their monetary policies have brought the african continent to its knees?

Do you understand the role that structural adjustment policies have played in the economic decimation of many african economies all with the collaboration of stooges like Okonjo Iweala?  

You remind me of those primitive african chiefs who sold their own brothers and sisters into slavery in exchange for cheap gin and broken mirrors -you are the 21st century embodiment of a primitive slave trader.  Okonjo Iweala sold out her own people in exchange for an appointment at the World Bank, in your dim mind that is an acheivement but she got there by assisting in the transfer of $12billion of nigeria's wealth into the hands of a group of financial predators aka the paris club.  

Your low intellect and non existent brain prevents you from having an intelligent conversation - i honestly beleive you should be placed on display in the musem of natural history here in london as an example of how it is possible to regress from man into neanderthal.

Sagamite:
Cretin, the white man is still chasing you?

All your failures in life is still due to the white man?

I bet in your demented world she is the whiteman's stooge.

Mental patient.

what failures? failure is not in my dictionary, but your picture appears beside the word failure in the dictionary.

YOur non existent intellect, motor park tout mentality and crude diction has condemned you to a life of unmitigated ignorance, it must be terrible to be you mate.

I asked a few questions about Okonjo Iweala above and i noticed you didnt have the balls to attempt to answer any of them , make my day and try - i love making mince meat out of you.

Sagamite:
A useless foool with nothing to offer is more likely to stay somewhere because they know that is the only garri they can get. She is highly educated and extremely intelligent and has enough experience to back her up to the point she does not need to kiss any arse. That is not sulking. That is knowing your worth and being worth a lot.

If she was not born with leadership skills, she would not (a) have got to the top in world bank and (b) would not have been invited back to the top at world bank.

In regards to very few in Nigeria taking her seriously, remember, very few in Nigeria are sane and refined. Most are shyt heads so not a problem if that was the case. We the few need to change the mentality of the insane to kowtow to their desires of leadership.

spoken like a true intellectual, where did you learn to sound so refined and cultured - did you study at the Ajegunle finishing school for motor park touts by any chance?

I think it is going to be Somalia 2 Martinosi.

The idea is to completley destroy Libya and reduce it to a failed state. I read an article last year about the 5 nations of the world whose banking systems remain outside the control of the Rothschild controlled world banking system and they are:

Libya
Iran
North Korea
Sudan
Cuba

I didnt think much of it until this attack on Libya started up and then it really started to make sense.

delusions of grandeur
ignorance
limitless stu.pidity
inability to apply common sense to the most basic situations
cowardice

nigerians have got to be the most ignorant set of human beings on the face of this planet!

Has anyone bothered to research Okonjo Iweala's economic policies and who they benefit? no

Has anyone bothered to research Buhari's economic policies and who they bnefited when he was in power in the 80s? no

Buhari will go down in history as one of the only nigerian heads of states who rejected IMF recommendations to devalue the naira and sell off the bulk of nigerian public services to foreign investors - now lets compare that to traitor Okonjo Iweala who masterminded one of the biggest daylight robberies in modern history when she handed over $12billion dollars for a supposed debt vastly made up of inflated interest to a bunch of wolves aka the paris club - and this is the woman that nigerians wanted as a running mate to Buhari!!!

Keep allowing yourselves to be used and abused by these traitors - all of you deserve what you get.

The real question should have been why did s.tupid GEJ appoint this IMF/world bank puppet?

Hasnt she done enough damage already? - The last time this woman was in office she handed over a gargantuan $12billion to the Paris Club for part payment of nigeria's debt as if that wasnt bad enough the IMF stipulated that nigeria had to continue implementing their terrible austerity measures ie the selling off of public assets to foreign investors (for next to nothing), devaluation of the naira even further, cuts in public spending which have led to the collapse of the health and education systems.

But of course Okonjo Iweala couldnt give a mess about the effects of these policies because as a member of the corrupt nigerian elite she lives a life of luxury, sends her children to study abroad and receives medical treatment in america whenever she needs it - so everyone else can go to hell.

i wonder what new scams her and her bosses over in washington have schemed up this time around, but we deserve what we get since we have refused to open our eyes to understand that Okonjo Iweala has absolutely nothing to offer nigerians except mass poverty. I wonder how long it will be before she recommends the Sanusi's sacking - if i remember correctly he was against the IMF recommendation of the devaluation of the naira - looks like he might want to start looking for another job because i think he is going to clash with this woman very soon.

Can someone plse explain to me why they think this woman is a good choice, for starters i'd like to know how the average nigerian benefitted from the $12 billion payment she made to the Paris club in PART payment of nigeria's debt in 2007 ? Did the living standards of the average nigerian improve after that massive chunk of money was paid in the space of ONE YEAR to foreign creditors?
Is there any likelihood that the living standards of the average nigerian will improve with her in this position?
What exactly is her long term objective for the nigerian economy? will she be recommending the sale of MORE of nigeria's public services to GEJ's buddies and foreign investors for pennies? Will she be recommending that the naira be devalued in accordance with her masters over at the IMF and the world bank? Will she be recommending even more draconian IMF structural adjustment policies in accordance with her masters instructions over in washington in order to keep nigeria on a permanent downward economic spiral?

ababda - have you heard of a lady by the name of Kola Boof? she's the author of a book called - diary of a lost girl.

the book talks about how northern sudanese arabs enslave south sudanese black africans, her father (who was an egyptian married a black oromo woman (from somalia) spoke out against it and he was murdered along with her mother, she was adopted by an african american family and now lives in america.

s.tupid and dull "goodluck" jonathan has already opened the door for the deadly european and american colonisers to come in. In exchange for his house negro services Obama gave him an old second hand american warship. In the days of slavery africans would tell tales on their fellow slaves in order to get into massa's good books.

As a reward massa would give them a piece of greasy chicken or a biscuit now you have african leaders like Goodluck Jonathan manifesting similar character traits. He secretly sent troops to Ivory Coast to help Sarkozy install an IMF puppet and he is also secretly working in collaboration with the americans in order to install AFRICOM all over the african continent. I have one word of warning for him: your day of reckoning must surely come, just as Saddam and Mubarak were removed by america their former ally, you must surely meet the same fate - traitor!

SEFAGO:
^ There are loads of free translators online. I just mentioned google to help you for starters

Whateva anyways. You should just have said thank you instead of getting offended. Nigerians and their silly pride .

listen mate, why dont you take a running jump (preferably off the edge of a cliff) your "help" is neither wanted nor needed - ar.sehole.

btyflmd:
schwarz is nicht gut - black is not good

es ist eine krankheit - it is a diesease or sickness

wörter werden sich wie reich nicht zeigen - words cannnot explain or words are inadequate to explain

brandenburger - it is a massive building in Berlin with high fence and used for tourism

prostituierte - LovePeddlers or prostitution

ich habe nichts wie das vorher gesehen - i have never seen that before

mädchen - women or girls

schlecht und verrückt - bad and crazy

thanks bros- these germans are a bunch of racist c.nts i really dont understand why we continue to put up with their crap.

SEFAGO:
^ Bros do some independent work: Google Translator

For Starters:

black is not good, it's a disease!

schwarz ist nicht gut, Es ist eine Krankheit!



We thank God, we thank God.

Is that all you could muster Einstein, my google translator is not working thats why i asked btyflmd who lives in germany - in future if you have nothing constructive to add keep your mouth shut.

some comments from chinese people about the pictures of chinese men with african women:

These people really have heavy/strong tastes!

许糖糖久久:

How scary it must be when Being Intimate in the dark at night~~
Just a shining mouth of teeth, unable to see anything else, must careful not to panic.

短枪哥哥:

I wish them the best/happiness, so what if they’re from Africa/are African [black], as long as you like/love them, that’s all that matters.

youaregood:

Doesn’t matter, love has no borders.

abcgba:

These black MM have nose-bleeding [hot] bodies and bewitching looks, just a little dark.
Don’t know if their children/descendants will be good looking or not.

招架不住:

This brother,
when looking at his wife at home,
even needs to carry a flashlight.



rowleen:

Black people always make me feel like they haven’t fully washed themselves, I can’t accept/handle someone who is dark all over their body.

kiki611:

If the sex/gender were reversed, the comments to this post would all be cursing/criticism…

御野:

It’s okay if you want to marry, just don’t leave your children/descendents in China. I don’t want future Chinese people to be like those half-black half-yellow people in Latin American countries, with lowered intelligence, having lost the purity of their blood, with only a name to claim.

安静的甘草杏:


I’ve given it some thought, if in the future China can be as developed as America, a lot of foreigners will want to immigrate and become Chinese nationals, but I still won’t accept them, because I feel they wouldn’t be true Chinese people.

笔墨丹心:


Those who are too dark I truly am unable to accept. Just looking at them I lose all intimate desire! Turn the lights off and its okay.

Purely my personal prejudice, so don’t yell at me if you disagree!!

暗夜百合的清香:

If I haven’t remembered incorrectly, lou zhu is that SB who married a Western/white girl and is going all out making babies, planning to “rebuild the Chinese nation” abroad… is building the Chinese nation built like that?

[See "Chinese Encouraged To Emigrate To Defeat Foreigners".]


I forget what movie it was, where a white person said the good thing about a black woman was: “Once you’ve Were Intimate, you’ll never again want any other color of woman”.

醉卧花底间:

^^^^
btyflmd do you understand german? If yes, can you translate the german comments in that email excerpt?

Here is an excerpt from an email sent by a german expatriate worker living in nigeria, explaining to his friend in germany  how fantastic life is in nigeria:

Behrend,

Wish you a very MERRY CHRISTMAS and a real exciting NEW YEAR. I miss you so much . I miss all the action there…all the fun… He !

But the only thing that makes it better is the good atmosphere at work : Too many projects to control, in different fields, a lot of experience to get, and the ****** guys here are real close and gentle, we leave like brothers than when we ar at home!… Believe it or not we’re working not less then 13 hours each day !

[b]Most of Nigerian people are real poor and dirty!: schwarz ist nicht gut, Es ist eine Krankheit! but they very smart and it amase me many times how smart good they are…but you will be really shocked when you see the way they live…there houses built by sand…

Their foods like posion and better than what you will feed Gerhard with!  …their wear like rags, ! And the big guys of the government, those who are in power…you don’t mant to know how reach they are : Wörter werden sich wie reich nicht zeigen!!!! And they still want and beg us to come to their villages with them, go around town with them, even pay. Hannes and Rafael wher paid to come to a party!! Nigeria government people want people to see white men around them…komische Leute!!!

Anyway, our situation here is a lot better : We have our own house, and three Nigerian guys to cook and clean…we have uncounted mobile armed guard with AK47 that stay with us 24/7, I have two pamanent drivers that drive me around sites and towns, he works as long as I work, only for 125£ every monts, we have big how with fence and big like Brandenburger!!! I am more than president ******* here in Nigeria …we also have television with dish, stereo, AC…and each one of us has a brand new car: a 507 peugeot designed especially for Nigerian roads that most of it are still made with sand without asphalt (those are the roads inside the towns), still they have good highways that link the cities with each other.

Prostituierte! Prostituierte!! Every where, for 10$! and the fine girls that are good are also Prostituierte for 15$, Ich habe nichts wie das vorher gesehen!, the girl will do anything for money! Rafael use mädchen howless and to abuse them with sex and treet them like sluts and dogs every night with different mädchen … schlecht und verrückt! Sometimes we stay in camp’s common room and watch via CCTV!!!! At midnights…[/b]

I am just few months, but I will always keep you posted….Bye and greetings to Janh!
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/rowland-adewumi/an-expatriates-email-from-nigeria.html

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That chic is haaaaaaWWWWWWT. Is she Fulani or igbo?[/quote]she's an igbo babe

i cant even read all the comments on here as im sooooo pissed off by this, for christs sake why are nigerians tolerating this kind of bullsh.it on their own land, can someone please explain why we are allowing this kind of crap to happen in our own land??

tom28:
I agree with you with everything u just said but then are you sure that Jonathan is going to support America on its establishing a military base in West Africa?

Tom, its all done and dusted Jonathan has agreed to AFRICOM siting a military base on the continent, he is afraid of america and doesnt want nigeria to be subjected to what libya is undergoing right now.

Jonathan is not really a leader, more like an administrator, look at how ineffective he has been since those recent bomb blasts in abuja, he is way out of his depth, he can not move an inch unless he gets clearance from the US or britain.

I think you are right Tom28 - we are simply not brave enough to defend our nation therefore it will be a walk in the park for the americans - there will be little or no resistance.  Instead what you will have among many nigerian ethnic groups will be COLLUSION with the americans

The other thing to consider is the fact that it might even be too late to ponder on such issues as i beleive that Goodluck Jonathan is actually in support of AFRICOM locating military bases in africa, if not he would not have voted in favour of a no fly zone over libya.  the no fly zone was the first step towards a military intervention  by a foreign army onto the african continent.  AFRICOM is run by the pentagon and their agenda is to invade and overthrow various african regimes which are not complying with american economic policies - they are still battling with libya, i belieive other african nations like zimbabwe and northern sudan may be next.  Nigeria is already taken care of as Jonathan is not arguing with his masters and is doing everything they ask of him.

to be honest i like her strength of character and forthrightness

A  nigerian young lady says its not her duty to cook for a man, she says women who cook for men in order to make the men fall for them are "fools and id.iots" do you agree?

http://www.nigeriadailynews.com/video/18687-video-is-this-how-to-be-a-nigerian-wife.html