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I want the day of reckoning to come for america very soon because all these atrocities that they are committing around the world must be accounted for, these tornadoes hitting america are just the beginning, the coming economic collapse of their economy is jus the tip of the iceberg for them, i want them to feel the same pain that they have inflicted on libya and its people because it is run by a satanic cabal who have no regard for human life.

Barack Hussein Obama is an abomination and a complete disgrace to the black race, any black person who still thinks this man is worthy of respect or admiration needs their head examined, how would he feel if his wife and two daughters were killed by a group of murderous terrorists,  Obama its not too late for you to do the right thing and refuse to carry on with this madness, dont forget that John and Robert Kennedy refused to bow to the american military industrial complex, they stood up for the truth, Obama now is the time for you to stop acting like a fu.king paid up political pros.titute and instrument of the murderous zionist murderers who control you and STOP THIS MADNESS IN LIBYA ONCE AND FOR ALL.

I just find it unbeleivable that southerners are still being butchered up north and still the nigerian govt folds its arms doing nothing, not only that but Goodluck Jonathan has done nothing to bring these people to book.

It just makes you wonder how he is going to be able to run the country effectively, the attitude of the state governors is also quite shocking, how come they did not come out to condemn these depraved acts and demand that these killers be found,charged and arrested? It just goes to show you that the southerners are not in control of nigeria, if Jonathan still has to walk around on eggshells around these northerners despite being the head of state then what good is the power that he claims to have?

Tayo I didnt insult you, i just expressed my extreme indignation at your unwillingness to see through the bullshit dog and pony show currently being orchestrated by Trump under the direction of the real power brokers in america - the zionist jews - THEY OWN YOUR MEDIA AND YOUR POLITICIANS INCLUDING OBAMA AND TRUMP.  OBAMA IS A SLAVE OF THE ZIONIST JEW POWER STRUCTURE AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OF AMERICA HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE ECONOMIC OR FOREIGN POLICY OF AMERICA , in many ways i pity him, he can only follow orders - he is nothing more than a pawn in the hands of these people.

Trump is a liar and a fraud, he will never go against the real power brokers ie  the people who put Obama in office in the first place - the zionist jews, he secretly does back room deals with them but out in the open he bamboozles gullible americans into beleiving he stands for something different:

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There is no depth that racists will not sink to in order to try and prove that they are racially superior to blacks , you must understand that the white man's self esteem and psyche is hinged on the myth of black inferiority, the only way white people are able to feel good about themselves is by being able to look around and see a black person who they can look down on - they live for this - it gives them a buzz - its what gets them out of bed in the morning.

Obama's cardinal sin is that instead of pursuing a career in entertainment or sports he attended some of the best ivy league institutions in america and eventually ended up becoming the president of what they see as a nation designed for whites, in their mind he belongs on the basketball court , a hip hop video or even in prison.

i came across this video on youtube entitled - nigger show me your papers - i think it very succinctly encapsulates the mindset of Trump and his racist compatriots:

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[quote author=A.D.M. link=topic=646198.msg8218499#msg8218499 date=1303949521]Tayo-D, either you're very s-t-u-p-i-d or a troll. Donald Trump is a piece of s--t, a race baiter, and probably a racist. Yes, I'm going to play the race card. How come no president before Barack Obama wasn't asked to produce a birth certificate, which he did before? There's no doubt the haters will find something else that is trivial to make Obama look like an evil man. Now, they want his college transcripts from Columbia and Haravard Universities. Is a black man going to these schools is unrealistic? Cap28 is absolutely correct. These birthers don't like the idea of a black man named Barack Hussein Obama II being in the White House who happens to not be a butler. And if you try to deny this, then I know you are truly s-t-u-p-i-d and out of touch with reality and probably kiss white backside, if you are black. This non-issue is just that: a non-issue. The only people that were distracting from the real issues are Donald "I-have-a-great-relationship-with-the-blacks" Trump and the rest of the racist ilk. You want to go after Obama? Talk about his domestic and foreign policies. This myth is just that: a myth. By the way, Donald Trump put up a full page advertisement in the New York Times in 1989 calling for the execution of five young black men who were accused of despoiling a white woman in Central Park, even using racial language. Those five young men were found to be innocent due to DNA, but some still don't want to believe that. No, Trump, your combover-having a$$ never had a great relationship with "the blacks." You haven't apologized for that disgusting ad and you refer to black folks as "the blacks." F--k Donald Trump, f--k the birthers, f--k the white racists, and f--k you, Tayo-D.[/quote]ADM thank you for being the voice of reason (at last) sometimes when i read some of the comments that people make on this forum i have to shake my head in disbelief.

Even if you hadnt mentioned anything about Trump's track record with regard to blacks in america i knew he was a racist, i could smell racism from him a mile off.  Everything about this man is totally repugnant, here we have a known crook and bankrupt now acting as judge, jury and executioner over a man he sees as an easy target, dont get me wrong i totally can not stand what obama stands for and i am actually convinced that obama is a sociopath with no moral compass, however i can tell the difference between someone who is genuinely concerned about the well being of america and someone who is out on a witch hunt, Trump falls into the latter category.  This opportunist saw what he thought was a chink in obama's armour and he moved in for the kill.  Now he has the audacity to question obama's educational qualifications, when will it end? is this the price that obama has to pay to appease the baying racist dogs in america ?  Would Trump have dared to ask bush jnr - a draft dodger and  former drug addict about his educational qualifications? 

what makes the whole thing even more nauseating is that you have some people (Tayo D) on here actually thinking that this is all well intentioned.  How is it that any sane person would go as far as congratulating an opportunist and self publicist  like Trump for supposedly getting obama to disclose his birth certificate?  How is it that Trump, a man who had nothing but pure unmitigated malice in his heart for obama should be congratulated for such an act when it is obvious to even a person with no brain that Trump merely sought to humiliate and embarrass obama for having the temerity to be the president of a white nation.

There are many delusional black people in our midst, these are the kind of black people who have convinced themselves that whites see them as equals, they  are willing to excuse any kind of unacceptable behaviour meted out by whites to blacks in order to "get along" funnily enough they normally get what an african american comedian refers to as the  "nigger wake up call" which is where a delusional black person suddently finds himself on the receiving end of racism and the racist incident  is so glaring and so in your face that they have no choice other than to accept that racism is indeed alive and well, from that point onwards they awaken from their fairy tale world.

Trump is an out an out racist - it is written all over his face, there is no way you could not be a racist if you are part of that unhinged birther movement, i listened to one of them on the internet a few weeks ago, you could hear the contempt, the bitterness and the rage in his voice - he referred to obama's winning of the presidential elections as the biggest hoax ever perpetrated against the american people, i felt like saying to him - no the greatest hoax ever perpetrated against the american people was when your supposed founding fathers (who were all slaveowners, pirates and merchants ie oligarchs) bamboozled you into fighting a "war of independence" and then fooled you into believing that you live in a democracy.

These white american racists deserve whats coming to them, they say pride goes before a fall, its going to be very interesting to watch these people go into meltdown, i really do wonder how these racists will cope when the dollar finally collapses and the american economy goes into freefall.

I am  not a fan of obama's economic or foreign policies by any stretch of the imagination, but this witch hunt that has been going on under the hysterical direction of the most right wing racist elements in america aka the birthers   is sickening to behold, the real issue for many of these lunatics is the fact that they simply can not come to terms with a black man being their president, it is so obvious.  These people are so enraged at a black man leading what they see as a white nation that they are prepared to do just about anything to humiliate him, some of the comments ive read on some forums demonstrate just how much these people hate him not because of his economic or foreign policies but because of the colour of his skin - its sickening.  You would think americans would be focusing on much more important issues like their rising unemployment, staggering deficit , weak dollar and the fact that China's economy will officially overtake them by 2016, but no these deranged racists would prefer to spend their time agonising over Obama's birth certificate - i wish them luck

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playmode you've made very good points up there, our people like to follow and believe all the lies that the western media feed us but they forget that the people feeding them these lies have their  own  agenda.

here is what a discerning american journalist had to say about libya:

Gaddafi's social and welfare programmes in Libya are rarely mentioned in the Western media. Why is that?

Colonel Gaddafi has done a lot for average Libyan people, making them Africa's best educated and most prosperous, in stark contrast to the US-backed regimes in Egypt and Tunisia that collapsed from within and without an imperialist intervention from the outside.

Consider this from Gerald A. Perreira at Black Agenda Report:

Under the revolutionary leadership of Muammar Qaddafi, Libya has attained the highest standard of living in Africa. In 2007, in an article which appeared in the African Executive Magazine, Norah Owaraga noted that Libya, “unlike other oil producing countries such as Nigeria and Saudi Arabia, utilized the revenue from its oil to develop its country. The standard of living of the people of Libya is one of the highest in Africa, falling in the category of countries with a GNP per capita of between USD 2,200 and 6,000.”

This is all the more remarkable when we consider that in 1951 Libya was officially the poorest country in the world. According to the World Bank, the per capita income was less than $50 a year – even lower than India. Today, all Libyans own their own homes and cars. Two Fleet Street journalists, David Blundy and Andrew Lycett, who are by no means supporters of the Libyan revolution, had this to say:

“The young people are well dressed, well fed and well educated. Libyans now earn more per capita than the British. The disparity in annual incomes… is smaller than in most countries. Libya’s wealth has been fairly spread throughout society. Every Libyan gets free, and often excellent, education, medical and health services. New colleges and hospitals are impressive by any international standard. All Libyans have a house or a flat, a car and most have televisions, video recorders and telephones. Compared with most citizens of the Third World countries, and with many in the First World, Libyans have it very good indeed.”

http://redstomp.org/forums/showthread.php?1314-Gaddafi-s-social-and-welfare-programmes-in-Libya

Dont you find it strange that the western corporate media keep quiet about all that but continue to focus on the fact that he has been in power for 42 years as if the saudi, bahraini and kuwaiti royal family havent been in power for even longer or as if the west has never supported leaders who have been in power for more than 20 years like  Omar Bongo of Gabon, Mobutu of Zaire, Blaise Campaore of Burkina Faso and Paul Biya of Cameroun.

Playmode thanks for posting - v interesting article.

America is now officially in economic decline - this is now being reported in the mainstream media:

BOSTON (MarketWatch) — The International Monetary Fund has just dropped a bombshell, and nobody noticed.

For the first time, the international organization has set a date for the moment when the “Age of America” will end and the U.S. economy will be overtaken by that of China.

IMF sees China topping U.S. in 2016According to the latest IMF official forecasts, China's economy will surpass that of America in real terms in 2016 — just five years from now. Brett Arends looks at the implications for the U.S. dollar and the Treasury market.
And it’s a lot closer than you may think.

According to the latest IMF official forecasts, China’s economy will surpass that of America in real terms in 2016 — just five years from now.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/imf-bombshell-age-of-america-about-to-end-2011-04-25?link=MW_story_popular

This puts into perspective why they are in libya and why they want africom bases all over africa -  they are hoping to destabilise and then take over all the african countries where china has invested heavily possibly to slow down china's ascendancy to super power status, they will fail, i also hope they fail in their attempt to remove gadaffi, what they are doing in libya is a criminal act, i hope russia and china step in to stop this madness.

america knows the game is up but they are finding it hard to accept that their days of glory are now over, lets pray that they dont plunge the entire world into a nuclear war out of desperation.

shotster50:
First off, Russia's involvement or lack of in the Libya crisis is highly suspect. It would be naive to hold them up as a credible source of information in the afore mentioned crisis.

Moving on to your second question, as far as I can recollect, I never gave you that impression. You simply assumed that.
For someone who is so vehemently anti 'Western',  what are you doing abroad?!!!!

why would it be naive to hold RT up as a credible source of information?

I wasnt aware that if you criticise the foreign policy of a western govt that makes you anti western.

I also was unaware that if you live in a country you have no right to criticise any aspect of that country's system of govt!!!


If thats the case then that would mean that anyone who lives in nigeria and criticises the nigerian govt is anti nigerian!!!

Criticising the west's  foreign policy does not necessarily mean that you are are anti west, it just means that you do not approve of their foreign policy and you are expressing your view , if we are to use your argument that anyone who criticises a nation is against every aspect of that nation that would mean the BNP are anti british because they criticise their govts stance on immigration and multiculturalism!

try if you can to watch these terrible videos:

http://uruknet.de/?p=m76906

cap28:
the alternative media sources such as RT have nothing to gain from telling the public the truth, they may have their own agenda but you are more likely to hear a more objective version of the news from them than from the corporate owned media outlets like CNN, FOX, NBC etc

meant to say here RT have nothing to gain from lying to us!!

kodewrita:
He did not go to eastern libya, he referred to videos on youtube and accused british journalists already-on-ground of not investigating events that were clearly displayed on youtube. That might be a valid accusation but HE DID NOT VERIFY IT TOO so he's guilty of the same.
Really? Did he visit Misurata or Adjabiya or any of those places. He's talking about Tripoli. Nobody accused Ghadaffi of bombing tripoli.

He was invited to libya by the gadaffi regime, it is ludicrous to suggest that he would have been allowed into the rebel controlled areas along with pro gadaffi minders to investigate the killings of black libyans.

He accused the western media of not investigating these killings because their safety is guaranteed and they have access to the rebel held areas, despite this advantage they have shown no interest whatsoever about investigating the killings of blacks there, is he not justified in pointing this out?

he couldnt visit misurata or ajdabiya as they are currently under bombardment by gadaffi's troops and the rebels  and are too dangerous to be in right now, he did however visit the three cities gadaffi was accused of bombing and found no evidence of bombing as alleged by the western press, he mentions their names in the beginning of the video.

kodewrita:
@Yes they are more credible, why?

They are not owned by the government. They may be sympathetic, biased(to the point of insanity) but they are independent. Putin more or less owns RT.

You my friend need to clean your glasses and get out of the marxist library.

I dont believe CNN either but the video I saw was without commentary and the Libyan official in question kept stammering without giving a cogent reply.

At least CNN makes a better attempt at being objective even though they are definitely not by any long shot. BBC is still much more objective.


Africans need to move beyond the independence struggle mentality and the cold war.

Marxism failed.
There is no West.
We are our greatest enemies (generator importers killing power, road contractors deliberately creating bad roads, ministers of petroleum practising illegal bunkering, governors funding terrorism/assassinations and of course africans supporting tyranny).

Stop supporting tyranny and despotism on our continent.

Its support like yours that keeps us in the dark ages.

Its amazing how quick you are to call people names and yet your knowledge and understanding of international issues is very limited  - so you think the american media outlets are more credible than RT because they are according to you "independent" -  are you aware that the majority of the american media outlets are owned by multi billion dollar corporations many of whom have business interests in many corrput dictatorship govts around the world.

These corporations actually OWN and CONTROL the US govt which is a lot worse than what you are accusing Putin of doing.

It is an open secret that the US govt is completely bought and paid for by american multinational corporations.

This has been going on for years but you dont know this because you dont know anything about US history - go and research how american multinationals like United fruit company controlled not only the US govt but the govts of many central and south american countries like guatemala, ecuador, chile etc

even in our own country nigeria, shell owns and controls the nigerian govt and weilds enormous power over the british and dutch govts.

the alternative media sources such as RT have nothing to gain from telling the public the truth, they may have their own agenda but you are more likely to hear a more objective version of the news from them than from the corporate owned media outlets like CNN, FOX, NBC etc 

you talk about CNN - CNN is owned by time warner , - time warner was one of the highest donors to obama's presidential campaign in 2008 these corporations are far from independent and have a vested interst in reporting biased information to the public.

you can check here:

http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main

the idea that the BBC is objective in its reporting is quite frankly a joke - the BBC is run by a group of govt appointed trustees these trustees are handpicked by senior govt ministers - if these trustees want to keep their jobs and big salaries they must ensure that the BBC reports news which tows the govt line - something that you are accusing Putin of doing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Trust

kodewrita:
Hail cap28, knight errant,
defender of tyrants [Jammeh(Gambia), Ghadaffi (Libya), Mugabe (Zimbabwe) and Gbagbo (Ivory Coast)]
opponent of democracy
absentee freedom fighter.

what is your definition of a tyrant?

can you explain why the abovementioned leaders are tyrants?

what is your understanding of a democratic nation?

Do you regard britain, france and america as democratic nations? if yes, why have they launched an unprovoked attack on a sovereign state without the approval of their own citizenry and in the case of america without approval from congress?

If america, britain and france are not supporters of tyranny why do they provide military aid to israel to the tune of $3billion a year enabling israel to murder unarmed men women and children in palestine?

if america, britain and france are not supporters of tyranny why do they provide millions of dollars in military aid to saudi, qatar and bahraini royal families as well as numerous african dictators like allasane ouattara of ivory coast, blaise campaore of burkina faso, the nigerian govt , the bongo family of gabon and paul biya of cameroun?

look forward to hearing your responses.

shotster50:
Who is the greater fool, You despise and loathe the West soo much yet you fall for the cheap Red propaganda.

why is this according to you "cheap red propaganda" can you expla\in why you do not agree with what was said in this clip?

also can you tell me why you accept without question the propaganda churned out by the western media, why is that? isnt a fool someone who accepts without question or reason one view while dismissing the other? sounds like you mate.

kodewrita:
You are quoting Russian TV you big dollop.

They were invited by a Ghadaffi Government that could not show CNN the so-called wounded civilians (They actually took them on a merry-go-round tour of the town).

Stop showing us staged Russian Propaganda.

if they were so objective, they should have visited the rebels too.

He avoided the direct question on whether Ghadaffi staged the tour and simply kept rambling about NATO needing to stop. Answer the direct question, self-servicer. He did not.

This is a very naive and suspicious advert paid for by the ghadaffi govt while the russian interviewer makes a weak attempt at objectivity.

I have seen much better propaganda on PressTV.

They were invited by Gadaffi and the first place he allowed them to inspect were the places where he is alleged to have dropped bombs on his people - does that make sense to you?  If i am accused of aerially bombarding people in a particular town why would i take people to that very town?  Perhaps you could explain to me why he would do that, unless you are saying that he was able to cover up the damage he did to the town just in time for the visit from the UK delegation.

i dont know whether you listened to this clip properly but the observer went to eastern libya where he saw black libyans being chopped up by these so called rebels - listen to the observer's statement at the end of the clip.

at the end of the day you are entitled to beleive what you want to believe, as i have said many times africans never appreciate the seriousness of a situation until it is staring them in the face - good luck.

A group of independent observers have just returned to the UK from Libya and have confirmed that there is no evidence that  that gadaffi ever launched airstrikes against his own people as was widely proclaimed in the western corporate media, looks like this whole war is being waged under false pretences - sound familiar?

The observers are also questioning why the western media continues to remain completely silent about the mass slaughter of black libyans and other black africans by these same rebels:

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thanks, horus

Horus, how do you download videos so that the actual video clip shows up on the page?

also did you know that there was unrest in burkina faso? I was suprised at what was said here, hope they succeed in removing that murderer campaore though.

The Gambian govt have taken a stand against the neo colonial invasion of Ivory Coast and in this clip they issue a very ominous warning to africans about the coming recolonisation of the african continent:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFmAaBGhUbU&NR=1

Horus thanks for posting this very informative lecture by Dr Molefi Asante. Again further confirmation from one of the most astute intellectuals in america on the insidious intentions of britain, france and america towards africa.

Dr Asante raises so many important points, for example the seizing of funds by america from african central banks in yaounde and abuja came as a shock to me, these are very important issues that need to be brought to the attention of african people so that they can see that the intention of europe and america is to keep africa in a perpetual state of subservience and poverty, also the yearly satellite fee that they were charging african nations was another eye opener, i mean there is so much in the professor's speech that forces you to sit up and listen.

thanks again Horus, im going to look for the prof's books.

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i agree with you bro, but how do we move forward, we are not a united people, change can not be undertaken by just one person or even a handful of people, there has to be a mass movement of people who understand what is going on and are willing to do something about changing the status quo, look at how difficult it is to even convince people on NL that we are still oppressed by whites, if you cant even convince your own people to see what is glaringly obvious - tell me how you even start implementing the change?

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absolutely spot on - i feel sorry for this new woman in his life, she's going to regret the day she set eyes on him, none of his relationships/marriages ever end well primarily because he only goes where he can gain. He uses people and discards them as soon as they are no longer of any use to him (financially).

The ambassador's daughter kept him afloat for years, but due to his greed he kept getting involved in dodgy 419 businesses which led to him ending up in court for match fixing - as you correctly stated he was then left with a huge bill of £600,000 - no suprises for guessing who must have picked up the tab!!!

The guy has absolutely no conscience and sees everything in life through monetary terms, i hope this woman has kept her money/investments securely locked away or she may find herself going bankrupt very soon.