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snowstormm:
Only a blind will pick hazard....sterling, Sane,debruyne,Silva has been more productive better hazard

Fixed

dopeJemi:
Diggz, Between Salah and Hazard, who has been more productive?


please just pick a name, please I beg you in the name of God, Just pick a name, that is a straight forward question, who has been more productive between Salah and Hazard this season.. abeg, Just pick one name

Are we arguing this?

dopeJemi:
My goodness, do we have to wait till season end before we know who has been more productive? do we have to wait till the season ends before we know that Kane has been the better striker this season? do we have to wait till the season ends before we know that Man City is on top of the table

So because it's December and not May, Man City are not top of the league, Kane is not the best striker, lingard has not been more productive, we must wait till May before we realize what is placed in front of our eyes

Messi has been more productive than Ronaldo, salah has been more productive than Hazard this season, Should we wait till the end of the season to realize that? since it's just December

Your logic is sound, I no even want argue, because your logic is telling me that until the season ends before we say Kane is the best striker in the League, Man City is top of the league

The bolded example is way way far off. Just like saying Dangote is richer than diggz.
The better analogy is Son of spurs is more productive than oga Plus.

diggz:
More productive....how? You people's ediocy is becoming more and more alarming by the second.....in December more productive...?

Lingard 747 mins 6 goals 4 assists.
Hazard 1157mins 5 goals 2 assists.

Who has been more productive?
Cc. Raumdeuter

Linkfield:
Its true when people say you guys are going the way of arsenal.
You are reasoning like them. So you too wan celebrate "we finish above Chelsea" trophy Wonders shall never end.

You snub the part that ur mate City which you guys are supposed to battle the title is 14 points above you. You both spend money, you both have the best squad in the league, you both started well.
In August bookmakers where deliberating BTW Utd and City where the title would go, now in December its all done and dusted, you can't even argue on that again...

BTW, Chelsea just won it last season, you haven't won it since 5 seasons ago. Who is supposed to be more aggressive?

Chelsea should be more aggressive they have 5 we have 20.

dopeJemi:
so where will Chelsea fans vent their frustrations seeing that Man Utd are struggling to win games and Chelsea are still 3rd behind Man Utd?

Chelsea have been playing well and winning matches and man u has been losing. But Chelsea has moved from 3rd to 3rd

PietroRico:
that one na your own.
Lingard is the truth right now. Everybody go realize soon enough.

No mind them, we de give am respect small becos of the polling booth awards wey him don win.
They compared him with Messi we warned them.
They jump to ororo we told them to watch it, that ororo no be plus mate.
They jumped to neymar We advice them to stop.
The went to KDB, the guy show am level.
They jumped to Sallah, now its Coutinho and Lingard.
Very soon e go be Jordan Ayew vs Hazard

dmcdad:
Honestly, for someone of Mourinho's calibre, he is acting cowardly. Ahswear!

Ok sir . He is are you happy now?

Ok . Pep is a the second coming of Jesus and Jose is a sh.it manager. Point taken.

odizeey:
yaya was a gift to city.
Pep do things with yaya. The problem was that Busquet was there, and there can be only one captain in a ship.

No he didn't, Pep dont really rate Yaya.

dmcdad:
I'm telling you that most don't... At least from my own perspective. Infact, they have more reasons to hate Madrid more with the controversial win they got against you guys in Fergie's era, but yet, most still would choose Madrid over Barça for no just reason.

That's my point, man u fans even before Ronaldo mostly prefer Madrid. Even before the champions league loss to Barca. But Madrid fans don't like man u. I think the table has turned now, Most united fans like Barca now and now is the perfect time for that given their forms. And with Barca playing shekpe in the UCL, their united Fan base will increase.

ctuagent007:
In order for them to win their argument, they the "real fans" said/claimed that Pep CHASED Zaba, Clithy, Sagba, Navas, Caballero, Nascrii, etc when I told them those players were out of contract, it changed to "if Pep was good he would have told those players to renew their contract."
But thank God for Google, (delph was bought for £35m) I told the real fans that Pep didn't renew their contracts that ended. Now the ball is in Mou's court, will he do as Pep did by not renewing Fellaini & Carrick's ending contract cos i dont want excuse again

Some people de do like women Allah

larride:
As at 2 season ago, Stones is one of the most rated young CB in the league, that's why the magician paid 50m quid for him. Chelsea wanted him, heck even some man Utd fans on this forum wanted him. so yes, 2 years ago I could have bought Stones if given the chances. Delph was both as a squad player and he's still a squad player. What Pep did to Delph is what Mou did to Young, no biggie.

That's how you guys were banding Otamendi as an average player turn good player under Pep when in fact Utd fought tooth and nail with City for his signature.

Yeye Dey smell.

I had this debate with someone some time ago, Otamendi was the best central defender in laliga before he went to city. Rojo for example was already tagged a flop before mourinho arrived, what happened now?

dubylhover:
exactly,but you do also know that "peps magic" didn't work on gotze who was unplayable under klopp

The same Pep that couldn't work with Zlatan who was unplayable everywhere he played including in Sweden.
Pep threw away Yaya toure who came to city and became world class. Every manager has there own Bleep up and high times

larride:
You mean Pep was stupid to buy Stones for 50m pounds? You mean City wasted 35m to buy Aston Villa best player? When City bought Delph and Stones, they were in demand players in the league. what exactly re you saying?

Pep bought a trash player for 50m to turn him into a good player. Wonderful. Dope you re really smart.

When the team plays rubbish, let's blame the players but when the team plays well, lets hail Pep. When the table is turn to Mou, it's vice versa. Yeye we dey hear.

Thank you my brother. When you point it out, they call Jose my god, they will scold you and list a whole lots of things, join notorious trolls to mock the team.

AntiIgnorance:
That tide is gradually changing ... Given the number of United fans I saw celebrate Barcelona's win in El Clasico.

This is because Madrid are ungrateful and sullied, I cheer Madrid all along even before Ronaldo, but from this season, I am for Barca. They seem to be more well mannered lots and less arrogant

dmcdad:
Man U fans do so mostly because of Ronaldo. And also to spite Barça who denied them of 2 UCL trophies.

It's not wholly truth, most I know liked Madrid even before the Ronaldo-Messi era.

dmcdad:
Lol @ fairly...

Most Man united fans i know, usually cheer Real Madrid, but Madrid fans do the opposite to Man U, even when we are not competing with them for anythng. Nawao

patrickmuf:
What else is there to comprehend when someone outrighly refers to a section of the fan base as "deluded" because they there question a manager for dropping players same manager you claimed doesn't have any freedom...

Go and check the meaning of "delusion" in the dictionary, you will know what I mean. Somebody said here that "your god" mourinho, but it doesn't bother me. The issue here is when we slate someone do it fairly. I am never a mourinho fan, he has his faults, but most criticism of him are not factual, they are just fallacies.
On another note. My initial statement about some fans doesnt even mean people here, but some arsenal trolls jump in here to turn it around.

patrickmuf:
Every body is entitled to his/her opinion, stop using derogatory words to describe people because of differences in point of view...You criticize Herrera, no problem, another fan criticizes Mou and you say they're deluded...

Ok sir, since you can't read and comprehend

patrickmuf:
Mourinho told you this? Same Mou that dropped one of our better players (Herrera) last season to the bench doesn't have freedom?
Same Mou that left a fit Shaw on the bench?
Same Mou that benches Mkhitaryan or drops him from the match day squad?
Same Mou that plays Lukaku almost every game even when he was serving us bullshit?
Abeg you can proceed with other excuses but this one won't fly, I'll be here to shoot it down whenever you try to launch it

Ok. Suit yourself

SIRcumalot:
Na experiment wey no work out. Starting ukaku and Ibra together,i don dey curious to see how it will look, we don see am yesterday, It won't happen again.

You see the reason, I said some criticise the manager because it's fanciful to do so, when you point it out, some holier than thou people will start scolding you. Everybody in the media and those associated with the club has been clamouring for Jose to start the combo, when he did it, he is slated. Jose has his faults, but when people decides to give him bad name in order to kill him, it doesn't look good even as a human being.

dmcdad:
You wanna make this hard for yourself bruv... In this time and age, you honestly don't have to be anywhere at any time to give your say or air your view. We have all ways to garner information nowadays, so one cannot be limited to saying if you weren't there, or if you didn't see it then you can't have a say.

To a greater extent you can tell of some historical events that ensued in Nigeria in times past. And albeit some might not be entirely true, but to a large extent most will be. Will you be okay if someone says because you didn't experience first hand at the time some of those events transpired then you have no idea what actually happened? Your answer here would really put things into perspective

So you see... You don't have to be there live to know what happened. You also don't have to watch every game to know what happened. I've not been to the States before, but I don't need to see Trump live to know that he is the President of the USA or to have an idea of his kinda person, do I? Just wanted to clear this idea of "you don't watch our matches and hence can't have a say" blah blah blah.

Now back to your claim... Can we just be objective now? Can you tell me what you honestly think you guys are doing right in recent games or weeks? Because judging by the turn of events, the reverse seem to be the case, at least judging by recent events. No?

Like i mentioned earlier I did not say categorically that we are doing something right, it's a suggestive phrase.
But in every negative there must be a positive. What we are doing right, is were have improved from 2 seasons ago and last season. Haven't We?

raumdeuter:
So your defence is that the season doesnt end in December? what a poor excuse. Didnt they all start the season together? Coutinho like Hazard also missed games

So does Hazard have a special otumokpo he wants to use to make him score goals

almost 5 leaue games as a striker no goals, no assist. but 30billion takeons

Any day Morata did not play, no show for hidden, and nobody to blame for missing the 30 billion chances he created.

diggz:
This was how you phooolishly went about comparing kante to Herrera....you never learn!

Hahahahhahah. Mr diggz my Man, no be me say make una de compare hazard with people wey pass am. Had it been una start with Tadic and puncheon like dayo said, this anger for no arise. Sorry if e pain u

raumdeuter:
You are pushing Hazard too hard, Has he finished with Bolasie, Puncheon, Tadic and Dwight Gayle

I don't want to sound disrespectful, but very soon these ones will move far ahead of him, before it was Ronaldo and Messi, later it was hidden is better than neymar later it was Sallah, when they discovered that hidden cannot polish their boots they brought up Coutinho. Like play like play Dwight Gayle will start posting more numbers than Ikedia.

raumdeuter:
Iniesta won a world cup, a CL, top assist maker in a La liga season, top assist in a CL season

What of Hidden

He won man of the match against Brighton

Wait Wait, are we actually comparing the one corner dancer, Hidden One corner with Coutinho? Hmmn, last 2 years it was Ronaldo and Messi, last year it was neymar, now Coutinho, very soon it will be oxlade Chamberlain.

codedguy1:
stop referring to fans as deluded because they have a different opinion or stand from yours.

Air you point in aguements and try to win the other with your superior argument.

if its a rival fan like that shameless kokaineprodigy then you can put them in their place. An assanal fan trolling us is what you can describe as delusion.

Sometimes you can't help it. Assuming you understand what I mean and If you notice I don't engage rival fans.

ctuagent007:
So any fan who opposes ur god, Mou is deluded?
As @ 2-3mths ago, they were called "fake fans" but now u have changed it to deluded
U are the type that gets angry when insulted but run mouth like tap water ba

Read and understand the context before throwing snides

codedguy1:
who are the guys that are nice and therefore can't be benched?

And you Dont want fans to blame the manager? You even have the temerity to call the same fans deluded. Haba!

Fans should blame the manager accordingly, like the game versus city we lost due the managers naivety, and some other examples ofcourse where the manager failed, but most of the players need an iron hand to sit up, Luke Shaw for example is a huge talent, but even LVG complained of him not showing enough bottle. Jose has exiled him for some time now and rightly berated him, he is back with the right attitude and grit. Martial was was dross last season, after the same treatment he is currently our best forward. People were berating the manager for only trying to toughen Shaw and Martial, now the result is showing, Rashford needs the same. Some players don't need such motivations They are always charged up, like Valencia and Lingard they may lack quality but not motivation and grit.

Nice guys like Mkhi who I rate even till now, he started the season well and suddenly regressed, the manager gave him too much of a long rope, still he did not sit up, when he was dropped ? His supporters blamed it on mourinho giving him defensive responsibilities. Some have even started blaming the manager for Rashford recent petulance, that asking him to track back is the reason for his uninspiring displays.forgetting that Rashy is still young and will get better with time, thats why i am not even pissed with his play,he is in a particular phase right now, where he will frustrate You, but will develop into a world beater later. Ronaldo at his age is not posting better numbers.

My point is mourinho doesnt have the freedom to wield the axe, he is ussually blamed for every players misdemeanor.

dmcdad:
And how did you think people come here because you play attractive football? You started this you know... And from the get go your logic was flawed. Just so you know.

Moreover, you don't need to watch every match to know what happens, do you?

I said we must be doing something right, if you know logic as you bandy about you will know that's is not an assertion. The dude said we dont play attractively but doesn't watch our matches, the question will now be how did he know? If he hears from people or by reading comments about united playing badly, and then jumps out to validate it without actually watching the games, then that's a ridiculously unfounded conclusion