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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:29pm On Jan 01, 2018
sinizia:
It's why I suggested Mourinho try out another formation like 352, or a 343 with the wing-forwards instructed to cut in most times, in order to provide Ukaku with another partner to help reduce the scoring burden on him. A partner that can ghost in behind the defenders while Ukaku drags them wide.
But I must admit today's goals required excellent finishing, Lukaku can't finish those chances. but he is good inside the box and knock down.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:26pm On Jan 01, 2018
Smellymouth:
Lord Lingard- 7 Goals
4 assists.

Eden Hazard-5 Goals
2 assists.
Cc. raumdeuter
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:25pm On Jan 01, 2018
Lingard have been scoring fantastic goals this season. I must admit. most of his goals are crackers. Mata has been fantastic recently. Shaw impressed again. Pogba is quality.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:13pm On Dec 31, 2017
adebayo201:
Seun should come and share money to the real and fake fans jare
can you just stop this already?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:58pm On Dec 31, 2017
joeace2020:
Look at us.. We now have factions of real fans against the fake fans. Let's just keep failing then so the man can go. This shameless pro and anti-Mourinho should just end jeje so we can have peace. He's the only manager in world football i know that if we were 1st on the log and 20 points clear he'll still be hated with passion even by many of us here and called arrogant and all...Let him just fail and go so maybe the 'i told you so' s' which are at the detriment of the team, arm for the trolls here and shame to the club can end.
That's why i told you the other day that mourinho should be sacked, make we hear word.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:37am On Dec 31, 2017
PietroRico:
the easiest route to get new lease of life na to sack Mourinho, hope you know grin
They should if it will bring reprieve
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:40pm On Dec 30, 2017
PietroRico:
We looked our most dangerous when young was released on that right hand side with enough space to whip in a cross, but they kept on ignoring his runs all through the game.
We are not dangerous at any point. we need a new lease of life. this team might keep dropping points.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:35pm On Dec 30, 2017
when fans of shekpe, Arsenil, Loserpool, Madrid, Barca, Bayern et al. troll you for a draw, you will know the hustle is real. The good thing is I don't really get pissed off with poor results.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:32pm On Dec 30, 2017
raumdeuter:
Bros how far. We need some analysis
ehe go on, I am all ears
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:17pm On Dec 30, 2017
what!!! 145 commentshuh the hustle is real. Happy New year All
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:36pm On Dec 30, 2017
BlueAngel444:
I would begin to doubt every time Mou is critical about a player, the way they prove him wrong a times. What aw his issue with Shaw again



This start given to Mhki looks more like a marketing front than a save your Man U career opportunity.
stop talking trash, Luke Shaw's fitness is the only thing that he questioned, even LVG complained of his fitness. his quality has always been known and recognised.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:25pm On Dec 30, 2017
slimghost:
Mhkitaryan has lost confidence!!! He needs to go back to basics!. SMH
He needs to be sold.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:24pm On Dec 30, 2017
It's a pity that Lingard is the only person doing anything meaningful in that attack. SMH.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:24am On Dec 30, 2017
elampiro:
Good article here.

But football change. There are a times a team with small players dominate, some other time it just shift. If it were possible to bring back Mourinho's Chelsea team of 2005/2006, they would still dominate today and give no single room for opposition to threaten. There are big players with quality. Lukaku doesn’t have Drogba's match winning quality. Lukaku is not even as strong and balance as Drogba.

Michael Essien at his peak would qualify for an Olympic sprinter, unlike Matic who plays in the speed of a snail. Essien was very agile too and could go into a quick sliding tackle. He could also play a center defence like it was its natural position. Remember when Ghana beat Nigeria with their centre defender sent off, and Essien had to fill in and became MOTM. Lampard had goal scoring sense from outside the box,unlike Mata, Lingard and Mkhitaryan. He won some matches with late goals from long range shots. Ballack was a tough guy. Terry was one of the best the world. Same with Cole.

The weakly in the that team were Joe Cole who if around today may be like Lingard.

I think sometimes, a coach just assembles a winning team able to play his style. That was what happened when Senegal were solid in 2002, very tall, strong and quick players. In 1992-1993, Ivory Coast had these small players with quick movement, but our Super Eagles with giant players find a way to dominate them by surrendering the midfield to the Ivorians while using speed, long passes to finish them.
That Bruno Metsu Senegal team of 2002 and the 1994 Super Eagles were the best Africa has put out in the world cup. Tony Sylva, Omar Daf, Ferdinand Coly, Aliou Cisse, Lamine Diatta, Bouba Diop, Henri Camera, Elhadji Diouf, Salif Diao and Khalilou Fadiga. bad team
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:19am On Dec 30, 2017
elampiro:
Good article here.

But football change. There are a times a team with small players dominate, some other time it just shift. If it were possible to bring back Mourinho's Chelsea team of 2005/2006, they would still dominate today and give no single room for opposition to threaten. There are big players with quality. Lukaku doesn’t have Drogba's match winning quality. Lukaku is not even as strong and balance as Drogba.

Michael Essien at his peak would qualify for an Olympic sprinter, unlike Matic who plays in the speed of a snail. Essien was very agile too and could go into a quick sliding tackle. He could also play a center defence like it was its natural position. Remember when Ghana beat Nigeria with their centre defender sent off, and Essien had to fill in. Lampard had goal scoring sense from outside the box,unlike Mata, Lingard and Mkhitaryan. He won some matches with late goals from long range shots. Ballack was a tough guy. Terry was one of the best the world. Same with Cole.

The weakly in the that team were Joe Cole who if around today may be like Lingard.

I think sometimes, a coach just assembles a winning team able to play his style. That was what happened when Senegal were solid in 2002, very tall, strong and quick players. In 1992-1993, Ivory Coast had these small players with quick movement, but our Super Eagles with giant players find a way to dominate them by surrendering the midfield to the Ivorians while using speed, long passes to finish them.
Even the much fabled fergie team where very good. The backline of Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra and G.Neville is far far better any one in the league today. Then there is a midfield of Carrick, J.S Park ,Giggs and Scholes with Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez in Attack. If fergie had average players he will still struggle as he did sometimes that fans where even calling for his sack.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:53pm On Dec 29, 2017
raumdeuter:
Jamie was an average player, please what level of player was Mourinho In his playing days
MOURINHO has distinguished himself in management, managing massive clubs like Real Madrid, Inter Milan and Man United. which area has Carragher done well? Playing or Management?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:28pm On Dec 29, 2017
raumdeuter:
elampiro nihilist afrodoc2 capitalcee eph12

Read this

There is a flaw in Jose Mourinho’s argument that the difference between Manchester United and Manchester City is money.

If Pep Guardiola was in charge of the United squad I believe they would win the title.

Rewind to the start of this season and assess the head-to-head qualities of the United and City squads. Player-for-player, which would you argue was superior?

Was Ederson considered better than David De Gea? Were City’s centre-backs Nicolas Otamendi and John Stones preferable to Eric Bailly and Phil Jones? Did United fans want Fernandinho or Nemanja Matic?

United broke the world transfer record to sign Paul Pogba, and then made Romelu Lukaku the most expensive Premier League player of last summer. Which English clubs made bigger statements of intent?


How many United or England fans would have swapped Marcus Rashford for Raheem Sterling a year ago? And when Anthony Martial first arrived from Monaco, was his reputation greater than that of Leroy Sane when he joined City?

Although he was signed before Mourinho’s appointment, Luke Shaw was a £30 million full-back – more expensive than City striker Gabriel Jesus. The United manager’s complaints about the value of the squads do not add up.

We can go on throughout the respective lists. Where Mourinho sees players unable to execute his tactical blueprint, I believe Guardiola would have taken a different approach with a squad Mourinho believes needs reinforcing.

Even now, it is the United squad that has the most expensive ‘superstars’ – or certainly those with the greater reputation when they joined the club. Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Pogba and Lukaku delivered elsewhere prior to moving to Old Trafford. Have they improved under Mourinho? That is the troubling question for the United manager. It is starting to sound like he has no patience or will to make what he has better.

City are ahead this season because Guardiola has developed players rather than expected ready-made talent to instantly deliver. Mourinho has increasingly come to rely on more experienced, established performers. If you want to evolve a club or a team, you don’t call Mourinho. He is a coach who navigates his way to silverware with teams that have the raw materials – something he has already achieved at United with two trophies in his first season. His reputation as a world-class coach is based on his ability to find a way to win. His legacy will be elevated if he returns to what made him so outstanding during his first spell at Chelsea when guiding players such as John Terry, Frank Lampard – who he inherited and made better - and Didier Drogba who he signed and made world-class after an indifferent first season at Stamford Bridge.

If Mourinho was coaching the Manchester City side they would not be playing the style of football we are seeing today. If there is a symbol of that look no further than Kevin De Bruyne, a player Mourinho coached at Chelsea but then sold.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/12/29/jose-mourinho-sounds-like-broken-record-pep-guardiola-man/

This was exactly the same position I have
Jamie Carragher was an average player during his days, and ussually commits blunders, he is an arm chair critic who doesnt know Jack about management. That was how Gary Neville ran his mouth, he went to Valencia and nearly relegated them. The good thing about Gary Neville is that he was one of the best players in his position, Carragher was average at best, I won't take him seriously.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:18pm On Dec 29, 2017
Spy360:
It's called trolling bros. You ain't meant to like it. grin so simply enjoy the yab and move on. If you can reply with a better banter fine. This football section cannot be complete without trolling. Trolling is the reason why we live here. grin. So cheer up OK...
Thank God you admit you are a troll. Good one
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 4:47pm On Dec 29, 2017
raumdeuter:
Madrid was interested in Ronaldo and bought him quick. This is the 4th year hazard has been begging but no one look him side
I thought he does 3000 take ons per match, why Madrid no come want am na?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 4:01pm On Dec 29, 2017
Neymar1095:
Eden Hazard's father Theirry Hazard: "Eden
hasn't yet renewed his contract with Chelsea
because he wants to be available in case
there's any potential interest from Real
Madrid , it's a club where he sees himself
playing, but currently there's absolutely no
contact with Real."
Raumdeuter you no see this one? U been talk am ok, say Madrid no want am, but him de beg them
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:54pm On Dec 29, 2017
ovoP:
but u do know mahrez is quite a lazy player..... He is easily dispossessed and doesn't like tackling d ball..... He is not ur man if u want to defend but... Very good on the counter
Mahrez is not easily dispossessed, he usually cause problems for the opposition.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:52pm On Dec 29, 2017
Oasis007:
You shouldn't have replied the Eediot, coz his Moniker has said it all about him.

Do you it's Moniker meaning in English Language?! Prison-Yard!
These are the kind of I.m.beciles some of us listen to, those kind of trolls are every day eeidioits that flood the internet to talk rubbish. There are many of them online, go to any popular sports daily any day we lose or drop points the comment section will have thousands of comments comprising mostly of this sort of people registering their stewpidity and hate, but any day we win, you won't see much comments. The best is just to ignore them. My disappointment is those that after reading their comments will start nagging.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:50pm On Dec 29, 2017
Smellymouth:
Oh Lawd.. cheesy
Yes na, and Ibrahimovic-less Sweden knocked both of their teams out of the world cup running, with such players we may not qualify for anything reasonable and won't win anything of note.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:47pm On Dec 29, 2017
patrickmuf:
To be frank most of Van Gaal signings were really not bad at the time, it's just that things didn't work out...Depay was a hot prospect every other team wanted, Schneiderlin was among the best DM in the EPL, Teiger came with experience...Why things didn't work out is what I really don't know.
They are good players but not good signings, they are mid table quality, put them in a lower team, they will perform that you will think they are world beater. Look at depay, scheiderlin and co, they are putting in shifts in their current clubs but can't cut in in big clubs. That was why we are struggling to make top 4 with them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:34pm On Dec 29, 2017
SIRcumalot:
I only sabi this dybala by name but I like am pass greizman, I no trust greizman at all.
Me too, griezman is a no no to me. Thank God we are no longer going for him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:27pm On Dec 29, 2017
Smellymouth:
Juventus have rejected Manchester United's £70m bid for Argentina forward Paulo Dybala, 24. United also offered Armenia midfielder Henrikh Mkhitaryan, 28, as part of the deal.(Sun)

** Juventus,70m plus mhiki una dey reject am? Una dey mad.
Dash Juventus miki and 70m, we need quality players not passengers that lacks fight and bottle. We need to rival any club for the signature of Sanchez and Ozil sharp sharp. Mata I think should stay, he has some quality. Also we need to trigger the release clause of Samuel umtiti, and sell smalling, if he can't bench a passenger like Cahill in the NT, he has no business in Man Utd, Rojo or Jones one will need to go. I prefer Jones though. Blind and Damian are useless, Blind should go to Groningen while Damian can go Chievo Verona.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:22pm On Dec 29, 2017
patrickmuf:
The argument here was that Mou ought not to blame lack of spending or under spending for where we find ourself now, I have always argued that with the resources available to Mou, we should be a lot more closer to City...And nobody is a naysayer here, granted some criticism has been over the top but most of it is based on hard facts...We can all share the same view but as adults, it's expected we respect each others opinion...
As as adults we can't understand that life is about ups and down, and not about pull him down syndrome. most complaints and whining here are just baseless fallacies, it's assumed that most people that comment here are adults, if a fifteen year old boy meet me on the road and engage me in a football debate, i will oblige him but may not take him serious as a full fledged adult, unless he showed absolute wisdom. Didnt you guys notice that most fans of other clubs are in glory of some wailing here? It's very annoying honestly. Go deep and search the minds of most of these trolls we see here, they are earnestly praying that mourinho will be sacked, so that we can go back to the era of LVG who signed 13 players for nearly 300m but only martial could make the current team. They know that with mourinho we will definitely struck gold one day, and that we will remain very competitive as long as he is around. When a naked man is offering you clothes, asks questions.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:07pm On Dec 29, 2017
patrickmuf:
Oga PietroRico you dey vex oh!!! Take it easy abeg.
See bro, nobody wanted to vibrate but when our own fans are mocking us in the name of saying the "truth " theirs no option than for trolls even from useless teams to create new accounts to troll.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:52pm On Dec 28, 2017
elampiro:
No mind them. I don't have their time. They want to turn Manchester United to Liverpool where coaches are changed every two years and they keep starting from scratch.

I am done with them.
I would have loved to see how this team will perform with a "nice guy" manager.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:44pm On Dec 28, 2017
joeace2020:
Macheter ins in 2016: Claudio Bravo (Barcelona), Ilkay Gundogan (Borussia Dortmund), Gabriel Jesus (Palmeiras), Marlos Moreno (Atletico Nacional), Nolito (Celta Vigo), Leroy Sane (Schalke), John Stones (Everton), Oleksandr Zinchenko (FC Ufa)

United got four players.

Machester ins in 2017

July 24: Benjamin Mendy from AS Monaco.

July 23 update: Danilo £27m, five-year deal.

July 15 update: Kyle Walker £45m. five-year contract.

Douglas Luiz, from Brazilian club Vasco da Gama, £10m fee, loaned out to City’s sister club Girona.

Bernardo Silva, aged 22, reported £43.6m, five-year deal.

June 8 update: Ederson Moraes joining them in a £34.7m deal from Benfica. This is a British record transfer fee for a goalkeeper, with City eclipsing the £18.9m Manchester United paid Atletico Madrid in June 2011, to bring David de Gea to Old Trafford.

And united got 3.


14 players over 2 years is a starting eleven complete compared to 7 over two years. United needed quality and quality isn't cheap hence our huge outlay on players. If the club has realised this then they should be willing and ready to invest even more before we are left further behind. I don't give a fvck if we are a billion dollar team. We should go out there and scare opponents with good football played by world class players. City has shown they will spend if the manager identifies weakness in the team or mistakes in his transfers. They want to get more defenders, go for players like Sanchez. We should be responding in kind with quality players not some of the average malcom and soler we are linked to.
I have been asking for Sanchez since the summer, why can't we just sign that guy, let city not buy him oo. Why not buy Dybala and Perisic also snap up Ozil. Then go for a world class defender offload smalling, Damian and Blind. Use their money to buy sessegnon. Also get rid of Herrera to teams like Eibar or Levente. Lingard is developing into a good squad player and martial is turning into a world class. I see Ranaldo and Rooney combo in those two.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:22pm On Dec 28, 2017
Neymar1095:
hahaha.... you are joking ryt.
Joking ke. Lukaku, Rashford, Lingard, Mkhi and Mata are world class and are better than Mbappe, Neymar and cavani. and if Pep coach them, they will win UCL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:17pm On Dec 28, 2017
Galileogalileo:
You're just being hard on yourself ... I know what you typed up there reek of sarcasm... Hey man that being said the kind of player that mourinho have at his disposal is quite enough to go head to head with man city squad.... All you've been doing is just to shut anybody out if they are pointing out mourinho shortcomings. You're good at that but to profer a solution you wont ... Bro just accept mourinho is coming short of expectation mettle on him... And besides in football the coach is the one to take large chunk of the heat....that is reason why the board will always give coach the stick not the players... r
Then sack him already. His squad is world class and should challenge. Contes team won the league last season, he spent 202m on it, while another spent 150m on 6th placed team. But the later is the Judas that should be hanged.

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