European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:58pm On Dec 24, 2017 |
Smellymouth: Yesterday's game is just further evidence why we won't win the league because we don't have players in the team who have that killer instinct ..The likes of Rashford, Lingard, Martial, they have great qualities but they don't have the killer instinct and I'm not sure they ever will have it. Rashford's immaturity really showed. Should've shot and tried to round the keeper. Should've played Lukaku through yet held the ball, killing the attack. He can never become a world class player if he plays like this. As for herrera, I hope he gets sold ASAP.. Yes Rashford and Martial were wasteful and have been talked about. But how about the continued serving of dross we get from old men like mkhitaryan Herrera and Damian. The boys you mentioned has flaws but just like other youngsters will improve. My grouse is with the useless and spineless old men |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:52pm On Dec 24, 2017 |
patrickmuf: If not for Mou's conservative approach, Herrera shouldn't have been on the pitch in the first place, his combination with Matic and Pogba doesn't work at all talk less of a match where we were comfortable dominating the midfield... That doesn't Still warrant or excuse the Spaniard uselessness |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:05pm On Dec 24, 2017 |
Smellymouth: Smalling had picked up a knock but stayed on the pitch because Mou had already used all three substitutions.
Phil Jones took it upon himself to reorganise the team, telling Lindelof to move to CB from RB...
According to Phil Neville on commentary, Jones asked Herrera to fill in at right-back but was snubbed by the Spaniard.
Gary Neville:-- "Ander Herrera refused to go to right-back and told Henrik Mkhitaryan to go back there. You can't believe the disorganisation and lack of leadership shown by Manchester United at the end of that game in a game they should have won."
** chai.. Mercenaries too full this club.. I heard the commentary during the match, but being that i have criticized Herrera too much on this forum I just chose to desist from saying it. Herrera is a very useless player, whenever he plays, he is a liability to the team, Mourinho should just get rid of these mercenaries quickly, Mourinho seem to have gotten soft since he came to united, deal with these lazy guys stealing a living in our team once and for all |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:01am On Dec 24, 2017 |
Leyqute: That Rashford is another Macheda jare. He has no brain. 
Score goal, you can't. Hit a pass with the right amount of weight, you can't. The only thing he can do is run around senselessly and play shot because you want to score goals. Useless Ogbomosho boy. Lol too much anger, calm down bro. Hehehehe |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:44am On Dec 24, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Is this the post you are responding to
Today Man utd team DDG Jones Smalling Young Martial Lingaard Mata were all inherited. 7 inherited started today, Last matchday United started 9 inherited
So I can say Mourinho spent hundreds of million on a team with good enough 7-9 starters Traditional starters. Herrera, Rashford, Mata and Smalling are not starters. I left out Lingard because he is now a starter. You know what I am talking about |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:32am On Dec 24, 2017 |
raumdeuter: In the starting team today who will they replace? because Martial and Pogba started Bailly, Herrera did not start ofcourse |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:05am On Dec 24, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Who are their first team replacements? Bailly, Pogba and Martial |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:49am On Dec 24, 2017 |
raumdeuter: And how much did Mourinho spend and how many potential first teamers?
Today Man utd team DDG Jones Smalling Young Martial Lingaard Mata were all inherited.
Last league match vs Brom DDG, Valencia Jones Smalling Young Herrera Mata Lingaard, Rashford 9 inherited .
So we can say 7 to 8 potential first teamers were inherited
You see what I said about facts and stats Mata, Rashford, Smalling, Herrera are not first team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:38am On Dec 24, 2017 |
afrodoc2: Rashford for one has to get back to the basics and put in extra work on the training field and the video room. His touch is not good and his decision making is actually getting worse. Martial's problem is just mentality and work rate., he needs to hit the gym on a regular. If the manager can't develop you then you better develop yourself. SAF recently said he was not responsible for Ronaldo's incredible work ethic and improvement at United, the guy did it almost independently. True. I think Martial has turned a corner recently with good pperformances, but he needs to do more, Rashford should not go the way of other English hot prospect ooo. But like you said, they should train themselves personally they are not doing it for the manager. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:34am On Dec 24, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Facts are stubborn and consistent, show us your fact Hahahahhah. Dayo dayo my man. Facts like Pep splurging half a billion in a team that competed in the business end of the champions league. With 8 potential first teamers |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:31am On Dec 24, 2017 |
elrony: E get anytime wey you go see true talk for Mourinho matter make you agree?
Carry your wahala comot here! !! U a get time to argue with dayo, knowing that even if you smack a notorious fact in his face, h e will still keep his school of thought. Why bother |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:29am On Dec 24, 2017 |
PietroRico: God know say if na Lukaku make half of the bad decisions./misses Rashford, Martial, lingard and co make today, them for send the young man to mental institution with abuses this night I have said it here before that, apart from the occasional mistakes players make, there is this resentment people have against Lukaku, him pogba and Matic were the only players to cone out with credit today. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:20am On Dec 24, 2017 |
PietroRico: Our starting full backs are both failed wingers who are both well over 30. Back ups are nothing to write home about. Darmian is useless, probably even the worst full back I've seen play my entire life. Blind is confused and doesn't know where his best position is.
Shaw for all his perceived potential wasn't really fancied by lvg either. That's 2 managers on the bounce now. This doesn't speak well of him.
Remove pogba from the midfield and there isn't any atom of creativity left. The other options after matic are Herrera and mctominay.. Lol.
Right winger.. Non existent. There is not a single natural right winger in a club as big as man united
All these ontop the many many million Wey we don blow in the past several years He is the worst footballer I have seen in my entire time as a united Fan. I am surprised how he became a sportsman never mind a footballer |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:14am On Dec 24, 2017 |
afrodoc2: The players have to bear most of the responsibilty for this draw, however JM is not completely blame free either. His defensive mind set is affecting some of the players and a good example is that late Rashford non-pass. And in terms of squad quality, Pep inherited a better squad but it was not 14 points better. Pep has definitely done a better job in terms of improving his squad, and in terms of improving the quality of the players he met in the squad. Very correct, And i was about saying the same thing you said on Rashford, mourinhos defensive mind set might have informed his non pass. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:12am On Dec 24, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:08am On Dec 24, 2017 |
PietroRico: exactly. And raumdeuter probably feels because no one has the strength for a back and forth with him on this, everyone has accepted his stance Anybody that has strength and time should engage him. Pep has been fantastic this season. But of his first eleven he met 8 out of 11. He spent over half a billion on a team that has 8 potential starters. And in as much as united has been shit at times this season, in other seasons they would have still been in it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:04am On Dec 24, 2017 |
elampiro: This is why I said Mourinho inherited a less superior team than Guardiola. Look at Lingard missing an empty net, and Rashford unable to beat the goalkeeper. Two one vs one with the keeper squandered. The issue has been overflogged |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:03am On Dec 24, 2017 |
elrony: Lol... make I go hustle sleep abeg b4 i go read wetin go add to this pains.  But why are you in pains? Even we win, it won't change anything |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:01am On Dec 24, 2017 |
PietroRico: in Mourinho's shoes that's exactly what I would do. Too many unserious people in this football club That was what I was trying to let them know. I have been hammering on offloading useless players and quitting pampering the others, we pamper our players too, placing the blame on mourinho every now and then. In Fergies days Rashford, Lingard Mkhi and even Martial would have gotten a hairdryer treatment this night. But let mourinho try it, the media and trolls will say he is killing the players morale |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:52pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
patrickmuf: Please stop saying Van Gaal stuffed the team with average players, Mourinho and Pep both came in same time, both met average players, Pep went about replacing them after a season but Mou decided they were good enough but you want us to blame LVG? No, Mou should take the blame for failing to do away with them... Of the city's current team First Eleven. Pep met, Delph,Kompany, Otamendi, Fernadinho, Silva, KDB, Sterling and Aguero. Thats 8/11. If he can splurge 500m on a team already parading 8 potential starters what does that tell you? LVG came and sold off players like Chicharito, Nani, and Rafeal for peanuts signing an army of useless players, only martial stood out, but mourinho has persist with only his signing which apart from Mkhi just recently have been fantastic. Of his seven signings the 3 that are not starters has a case, Lindelof is young and is putting in a shift, Ibra has paid his dues last season and came for free, mki is mki |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:27pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
slimghost: Jose is every bit the problem!!!!!. Some of these players need enough freedom to flourish. Mourinho is just a manager/tactician and not a coach. That's the problem. He can't develop nobody and that's why some of these lads are obviously regressing. Believe me, Shaw,Rashford and Martial are potentially world-class players. All they need is proper grooming and Jose obviously can't offer that. But you just suggested Rashford should be sent to Dag and Red. Isn t it hilarious that among all The players LVG signed only Martial is a starter, mind you he signed nearly a dozen players after selling off better players for peanut. Mourinhos signing have been ok from the look if things |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:22pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
ReLaTE: Are they players not discipline, if that is the case then they players are against him probably because of his tactics. The players are not against him it seems, but most of them know that they can never be dropped or benched for too long, if not hell will lose |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:18pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
Adisaowalla: After spending how much in the last 18 months?? You don see am na. We are 13 points off, we will likely not win anything this season. But honestly he is the 2nd highest spender in the league and is 2nd. Lol but that's not an excuse though for not challenging |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:14pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
ReLaTE: The manager needs to go with some players, his defensive and cowardice tactics is affecting the players. A good manager will do well with some of these players even with Miki. If you watch our games closely you will see that Jose is not the problem. Believe me |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:13pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
slimghost: Why pull out Lingard for Herrera? What was he trying to defend? Why invite that pressure on the players? Rashford should be sent off to Dags and Red on loan for this performance but still, Mourinho goofed big time. His negative mindset is affecting our football. A city team would have killed this game but Mourinho immediately setup His team to defend and counter. Against a 10man team losing already?. Lol too much anger, I understand but lay off the kid he is still learning. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:11pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
PietroRico: We should totally sack Mourinho In the summer and continue to field brain dead footballers and then wonder what the problem is. Mourinho is not the problem, the problem is the average players that LVG stuffed in our squad. But mourinho too should loosen up a bit, he is too rigid |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:09pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
odizeey: They are young, but they know how to collect money I've not seen in my lifetime abi. Offload all the useless players. Up MFM. Offload Rashford and Martial? Because of a draw with Leicester, that doesn't have any bearing on the table? Those 2 in today's market are easily 200m pounds. We are likely not going to win anything this season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:07pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
patrickmuf: Please remove Rashford, Mbappe is young but he's easily better...Rashford does not know when to pass, when to shoot, when to run, when to slow it down etc and it's the essential thing that makes for a good player; decision making...The chance he missed, Schmeichel wasn't even close but he attempted to dribble past him. You are very correct, but I am just being lenient on him because he could turn a corner soon and learn, games like this are good for young players like Rashford to learn. Thank God that i have written us off the league since that loss to Huddersfield. We need massive clear out, Damian, Blind, Herrera, Mkhitaryan, Ibrahimovic, Herrera should finish this season and go. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:59pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
odizeey: y not remove lingard instead. Must he play today sef. Im no supporting abeg. Lingard was later removed, if the players have taken their chances we will not be talking about the substitution now. Imagine Rooney, Giggs, Van Nistelrooy or scholes getting these chances |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:56pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
patrickmuf: Seriously, I don't know why folks here are mentioning Martial when he was quite easily one of our better players, Lingard, Rashford, Mkhitaryan should be blamed big time. let's just focus on getting the top 4. We don't have the players for the league. In our entire squad, the only people that deserve to be in united are. Matic, Pogba, Lukaku, DDG, Valencia, Bailly and Martial and may be Rashford because he is still up and coming. I will clear out the rest. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:52pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
nitrogen: Awon oloshi, e no go better for Rashford and Mourinho. How is it mourinhos problem? Is he the person that lost the chances? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:52pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
odizeey: I just weak, must he remove martial. Mourinho get bad head, and its affecting the team. Giving youth a chance. Rashford is English, if he didn't feature him, they will say he killed a good talent. But he is still young sha. |