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shadeyinka2:
I guess you just somehow read where I said humans will live in heaven!
Your bias is beyond redemption
SMH!!

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT IS GOD FOOLISH OR WE HUMANS ARE TRYING TO TELL GOD HOW THINGS SHOULD BE. PROBABLY DADDYS IN THE LORD THE INFALLIBLE MONEY MEN WHO ARE ENJOYING THE BEST OF THE EARTH BUT STILL DREAM OF HEAVEN, WHILE THEIR SLAVES THAT ARE TOILING TO GET THEM TO WHERE THEY ARE WILL BURN IN ASSUMED HELL CREATED BY THEIR IMAGINATIONS

Kobojunkie:
You are too busy writing your own book there, how can you had time to actually address questions that pertain to knowledge of the Bible .

It seems clear at this point that I will do better to submit my questions to governing body, GB, that rules over your mind so they can help updater your response set.

HOW CAN YOU OPEN YOU MOUTH TO SAY THAT PSALM 16:10 WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT CHRIST THATS WHY I QUOTED PSALM 110:1 WHO IS THAT VERSE TALKING ABOUT. THAT MEANS ACTS 2:27/ WAS TALKING ABOUT PETER JUST LIKE ALL EPISTLES OF PAUL WAS
TALKING ABOUT PAUL, THEN WE NEED THE BOOK OF JESUS TO HEAR HIS VOICE

Kobojunkie:
Since when did the words of David become the Words or Jesus Christ?
1. The above is supposed to be of David speaking about his own encounter with the Lord, is it not ? And David is the me/I/my reference whereas the You/him/he/your is the Lord, right?

So why do you insinuate that the passage is about Jesus Christ begging God not to let Him perish in the grave?

Do you even begin to realize the ramifications of the claim you made there of God's Law, Jesus Christ, begging to be raised from the dead?

2. Do you know the key differences between the Old Covenant Law of Moses, YHWH, and the New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ , as far as destination for those who live by the law and those who refuse?

3. According to Peter's account of events which you referenced earlier, Jesus Christ went down to the spirits chained during the time of Noah - and not after that. Is this what you meant when you said Jesus descended down to Hell ?

I CAN SEE THAT YOU'VE NOT EVEN STARTED KNOWING THE BIBLE. I DON'T HAVE THAT TIME TO WASTE.

WAS DAVID NOT.PROFESYING ABOUT JESUS THROUGHOUT THE BOOK OF PSALMS. WHO WAS THIS VERSE REFERING TO IN PSALM 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. IF YOU KNOW WHO DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT THEN YOU HAVE STARTED LEARNING

shadeyinka2:
There is not one single perfect person in this world. There is not one human being who is qualified for heaven.
The reason is because we are ALL infected with the virus of sin.
Its like our operating system is corrupted with a deadly virus that make us naturally loving sin (just like the nature of pigs is not to bother about filth as long as they enjoy themselves).

The only purpose why the Father sent Jesus is to be the sacrifice or scapegoat or payment for our corrupt nature.

Whosoever recognises his corrupt nature and wishes to qualify to be with God in eternity will do two things
1. They will accept the solution of God for their cleansing (Accepting Jesus as Saviour)
2. They will accept to live by the dictates of the children of God (Accepting the Lordship of Christ)
Since it is God the Father who decides the genuineness of your coming to Him for salvation, he is the one who make such a person a NEW CREATURE (Born Again).
Anyone who is Born Again is given among others
1. An Identity (Matric Number if you will) as a Child of God
2. Ability to have a record of Faithfulness to Duty on earth (spiritual CGPA LOL).

Such a person then awaits his graduation (His Reboot/Death and Resurrection) for the final permanent removal of the VIRUS of SIN.
At the end of our life here on earth, such a person has a place with God in eternity AND will be rewarded for every act of LOVE for his Neighbour and FAITHFULNESS to duty he performed.

NOTE:
Just as we can find a dirty Cat, the nature of a cat is not Filthiness
and
Just as we can find a clean Pig, the nature of a pig is not Cleanliness
So is the nature of Born Again (children of God) on the earth

FALSE TEACHING HUMANS WERE NEVER TO LIVE IN HEAVEN HUMANS ARE FOR EARTH IF GOD WANTED MAN TO BE IN HEAVEN WHY DID HE CREATE HIM ON EARTH. THE BIBLE SAYS HEAVEN IS THE THRONE OF GOD AND EARTH HAS HE GIVEN TO THE CHILDREN OF MEN. NO MAN GOES TO HEAVEN ETERNAL LIFE IS ON EARTH HERE REV 20:6 SAYS THOSE THAT WILL BE PART OF CHRIST MILLENNIAL REIGN WILL NOT DIE AGAIN

Dtruthspeaker:
Oh, therefore, you think Christ was joking when He Said "FEAR HE, WHO AFTER HE HAS KILLED, (Death) HATH POWER TO CAST IN HELL".

You do not know the Power Creators and that creations (products) only de-exist when their Creators have Commanded that they be De-existed.

And our Creator has Said, He Shall put all "bad, wicked and evil products and creations in the dustbin of the Oven called "the Lake of Fire"

So no, you are not going to jail twice, you just went to "Holding Cell, Guard Rooms, EFCC cell" (death/hell) before you are actually taken to Court for judgement which shall either Convict/Condemn you to the Lake of Fire or Acquit and Discharge you to New World of New Heaven and New Earth!

CASTING INTO HELL IS THAT ABILITY TO DESTROY THE SOUL DURING THE SECOND DEAD AFTER THE FIRST RESURRECTION BOTH BODY AND SOUL WILL BE DESTROYED AS IT IS RIGHTLY WRITTEN IN EZEKIEL 18:4 THE SOUL THAT SINNETH IT SHALL DIE. GOD WILL DESTROY THE SOULS OF SINNERS FOREVER AND THAT IS CALLED THE SECOND DEATH PERIOD.

DID YOU NOT SEE THAT WHEN HUMANS ARE THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE THAT THEY DIE THE SECOND TIME REV 20:14 ALSO NOTE THAT THE LAKE OF FIRE IS NOT HELL. IT IS ONLY THE LAKE OF FIRE THAT BURNS HELL IS GRAVE. NOTICE THAT WHEN THE DEVIL IS THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE THE BIBLE SAY THE DEVIL WILL REMAIN THERE FOR EVER AND EVER REV 20:10 BUT WHEN HUMANS ARE CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE THE BIBLE SAY IT IS THE SECOND DEATH WHY THAT DIFFRENCIATION

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=104883725][/quote]POINT OF CORRECTION GOD HAS NO DARK PART LIKE HATE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO PUNISH AFTER DEAD BECAUSE DEAD IS ALREADY PUNISHMENT FOR SIN. ITS LIKE GOING TO JAIL FOR A CRIME YOU COMMITTED AFTER SERVING YOUR TIME YOU BECOME A FREE MAN YOU CANNOT BE PUNISHED TWICE

Kobojunkie:
Do you know the key differences between the Old Covenant Law of Moses, YHWH, and the New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ , as far as destination for those who live by the law and those who refuse?

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THAT STOP SPREADING LIES THE TWO WORDS TRANSLATED AS HELL IN THE BIBLE ARE HADES AND GEHENNA. GO AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY MEAN TARTARUS WAS USED ONCE IN 2 PETER 2:4

Kobojunkie:
Again....
1. Do you know the key differences between the Old Covenant Law of Moses, YHWH, and the New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ , as far as destination for those who live by the law and those who refuse?

2. According to Peter's account of events which you referenced earlier, Jesus Christ went down to the spirits chained during the time of Noah - and not after that. Is this what you meant when you said Jesus descended down to Hell ?

YOU BAFFLE ME.WITH FAIRY TALES WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
PSALM 16:10 READS For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
ACTS 2:25-28 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.KJV

Acts 2:25-28 David said about him:

“‘I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will rest in hope,
27 because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,
you will not let your holy one see decay.(A)
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.’NIV
EMPHASIS VERSE 27
HERE JESUS CLEARLY BEGGED GOD PLEASE DON'T ABANDONE ME IN THE GRAVE INFACT READ THE WHOLE OF ACTS 2 AND PSALM 16

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but the bible says man was created in the image of God .... And to rule over the earth....
so if they are already created in the image of God why would they want to be like God again

MY BROTHER DON'T ANSWER HIM YOU ALREADY KNOWN THE TRUTH. END TIME ADVOCATES THEY ARE ALL LOOKING FOR STORIES TO COVER THEIR LIES HELL IS FILLED WITH DEAD THINGS READ REV 20:13

falcon01:
It's a system built for manipulation and control, a system based on fear Obey or Burn.

GOD. BLESS YOU BROTHER; IN TRUTH THE WORD HELL DOESN'T MEAN WHERE FIRE IS BURNING IT MEANS WHERE DEATH THINGS ARE REV 20:13 SAYS HELL DELIVERED UP THE DEAD WHICH WERE IN IT MEANING THAT HELL IS FULL OF DEATH THINGS READ IT
REV 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

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how about new born babies who commit no sin and yet still die......

NEW BABIES TAKE THE NATURE OF THEIR PARENTS. ADAM WAS DRIVEN OUT OF THE PRESENCE OF GOD BEFORE HE STARTED HAVING CHILDREN SO THOSE CHILDREN ARE LIKE HIM WITH SINFUL NATURE THAT IS WHY CHILDREN DIE MUCH LIKE ADULTS WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN THEY WILL STILL DIE BUT AFTER THE RESURRECTION THE WILL BE GIVEN THE ORIGINAL BODY THAT ADAM WAS CREATED WITH IMMORTAL BODY AND SO CANNOT DIE AGAIN

Kobojunkie:
Do you know the key differences between the Old Covenant Law of Moses, YHWH, and the New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ , as far as destination for those who live by the law and those who refuse?

READ ACTS 2:27 PETER QUOTED PSALM 16:10 STOP INSULTING GOD WITH FALSE DEVILISH DOCTRINE HELL IS GRAVE PERIOD IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR DADDY IN THE LORD SAID READ YOUR BIBLE HELL IS GRAVE I REPEAT WITH AUTHORITY HELL IS GRAVE HE'LL IS GRAVE

billynoni:
Wait, let's rewind back. Answer this with all honesty... What do you think personally, might make a person go to the hell? If you can answer this 100%, I promise you an interesting interaction on this thread.

I WILL FOLLOW JESUS TO HELL BECAUSE HE WENT THERE FIRST PSALM 16:10

billynoni:
Thank you for this question, I really appreciate the way you're thinking about these things. Why will God put a tree not meant to be eaten, in the same area with Humans? Nice question... Remember I said hell wasn't meant for humans intially? You're right, if you're thinking it's meant for the "serpent" who persuaded Eve to eat first and Adam later. Ever thought that, the tree which was meant not to be eaten, might actually be a door entry to hell and that's why God warned them seriously not to eat it?

Here's a quick one tho, when the serpent came to Eve, why can't she wait for God, to confirm what He told them?

N.B In my last post, God breathe into human- He believes they are capable to make their own decisions, just like Him, as a part of Him was in them.

PLEASE DON'T SAY WHAT YOU DONT KNOW HELL IS A DARK HOLE GRAVE NOT WHERE FIRE IS BURNING DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE WRITING ANYTHING, DON'T SPREAD DEVILISH DOCTRINE HERE HELL MEANS GRAVE QUOTE ME ANYWHERE IF JESUS WENT TO HELL BEFORE RESURRECTION WHAT DO YOU THINK HELL IS PSALM 16:10 AND ACTS 2:27 READ KJV AND NIV HELL MEANS GRAVE PERIOD JESUS WAS IN HELL FOR THREE DAYS BEFORE HE RESURRECTED SO WHAT IS HELL. WAS JESUS A SINNER WHY THEN DID HE GO TO HELL. STOP INSULTING GOD WITH NEGATIVE INSINUATIONS. EVEN THE WICKED DEVIL CANNOT BE THAT HEARTLESS
DO YOU KNOW WHO GOD IS TO EQUATE SUCH WICKEDNESS TO HIM

billynoni:
So yeah, God never said Adam and Eve, Hellfire straight!!! Do you know why? Hell was not meant for HUMANS intially, I repeat Hell was not meant for HUMANS AT ALL, until Adam and Eve put us in that clause. Who/what is Hell meant for then?(this is another topic for another day).

You might be wondering, why ordinary eating from a tree someone said i shouldn't eat from, caused this kain problem. Let's look at it again, in that creation story we learnt God just say "light come out, water go there, trees come out, fish be in water, bird start flying", but when it got to human part, God had to find time and "mould" human being Himself, not just that "breathe life" into him- Something he didn't for other things he created prior, that's what make human "special" to God- We carried a part of HIM, not in other creatures. Hence the reason animals and plant are saved from the hell story coz apparently they are just "ordinary" stuff.

STORY STORY HELL MEANS GRAVE AND MOTHING ELSE BECAUSE JESUS WENT TO HELL

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As a father or mother no matter what your child does you still forgive them and give them a second chance because you truly love them and would love to see them do better.....
But then when it comes to the case of a God who claims to love all people very ironic how he sends thesame people to hell to burn for eternity.......
But then what purpose does hell fire really serve because if it's for the sake of punishments then you would realise that why we have punishments in the first place is to reform people and to change their attitude and also to discourage others from participating in thesame bad behaviour...
but for hell fire you are not given a second chance instead you are condemned straight with no hope.....
It's Very Ironic For A God Who Claims To Love All People To Send Themsame People He Loves To Enternal Condemnation Without A Second Chance .....
but then if you know you are going to send someone to hell fire why did create the person in the first place....

GOD BLESS YOU MY BROTHER LET ME TELL YOU AUTHORITATIVELY THAT THE IS NOTHING LIKE HELL AS A PLACE OF TORMENT FOR HUMANS HELL MEANS GRAVE. INFACT WHY WE DIE IS BECAUSE OF OUR SINS SO WHEN YOU DIE YOU HAVE PAID THE PRICE FOR YOUR SINS YOU CANNOT BE PUNISHED AGAIN ROM 6:23 SAYS THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH AND WHEN YOU DIE YOU HAVE PAID THE PRICE FOR YOUR SINS. DON'T MIND OUR POT BELLY PREACHERS THEY KNOW THE TRUTH THEY CAN ONLY DECEIVE THE GULLIBLE ONES WHO DON'T READ THE BIBLE. GOD CANNOT I REPEAT GOD CANNOT NOR EVEN THINK OF SUCH WICKEDNESS INFACT THAT WOULD HAVE MADE GOD WORSE THAN THE DEVIL
HELL YOU SEE IN THE BIBLE MEANS GRAVE EVEN JESUS WENT TO HELL PSALM 16:10 AND PETER QUOTED IT IN ACTS 2:27 HELL MEANS GRAVE. AND THAT IS WHERE ALL THOSE THAT DIE GO TO
AFTER RESURRECTION THE GOOD PEOPLE WILL LIVE FOREVER WHILE THE BAD ONCE WILL BE CUT OFF THAT IS DIE THE SECOND TIME REV 20:14 QUOTE ME ANYWHERE

BIG BANG IS AN ASSUMPTION NO SINGLE PROVE. NOT EVEN QUALIFY AS A HYPOTHESIS MORE THEN THEORY, IT WAS DESIGNED TO EXPLAIN GOD AWAY BUT IT AINT WORKING. CREATION IS A MORE PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION OF THE ORIGIN OF MAN THAN BIG BANG. I WILL TELL YOU WHY
* IF GOD DOES NOT EXIST THEN EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE, YOU CAN'T TALK OF MORALITY, WHERE DID CONSCIENCE COME FROM, WHAT OF DREAMS THAT TELLS WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN
* HOW WILL BIG BANG AND IT BROTHER EVOLUTION EXPLAIN HOW MALE AND FEMALE CAME TO BE . WHY HAS EVOLUTION STOPPED WHY HAS MAN REFUSED TO EVOLVE TO OVERCOME SICKNESSES AND DISEASES PLAGUING MAN. WHY ARE WE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FIGHT THIS DISEASES INSTEAD OF JUST EVOLVING TO OVERCOME IT. HOW CAN REPRODUCTION BE PART OF EVOLUTION. ETC

THIS MONEY MEN ARE CONFUSED. WHEN YOU SEE MONEY YOU NEVER DREAMT OF 1/1000000TH OF IT IN YOUR LIFE THATS WHAT YOU CAN VOMIT
MEN OF SATAN

Crunchyg2:
Let me make you understand the bible well so you don't misinteprete it next time . You must check what I am about to tell you deeper because it's deeper than you thought and needs deeper understanding to grasp it. First: understand that when ever you see 'die' or death in the bible. Is either talking about two different things and that is where alot of persons are getting it twisted but pay attention I will explain them to you . When ever you see die or death in the bible, first try to understand the context it was used because it is always used to describe two different things. (1) death or die: describes one having to die physically i.e stops breathing and his spirit leaving him or her while in another context when death or die is mentioned it's taking about (hellfire) this is another time you will see bible talk about death or die. Example when bible talked about Adam and Eve when he told them that if they eat the fruit that they will ' die' he wasn't referring to physical death rather he was referring to going to hell. So make sure you try to find out the context in which the word is used before you conclude any time you see 'die' or 'death' so now going by the scripture you quoted john 11:26- whosoever liveth and believeth in me SHALL NEVER DIE. This particular 'DIE' was referring to hellfire and not the other death of physical death that's why I said you must know the context of which the word death was used for you to properly understand the very passage that you are reading. Know that bible is not just any other literature that you read straight and understand you need more than understanding to really comprehend it well. The John 11:26 simply means that whosoever that believes in Jesus Christ will not go to hellfire not that the person will not die physical death. I will stop here but if anyone has further question the person can ask and I will answer . Thanks

THIS IS THE BIGGEST NONSENSE IVE READ FOR A LONG WHILE
SO THE DEATH THAT GOD TOLD ADAM HE WILL DIE IS A SPIRITUAL DEAD GOD FORGIVE YOU. SO WHAT NOW MADE ADAM TO DIE PHYSICALLY, WAS ADAM A SPIRIT OR A SOUL. PLEASE BE CORRECTED ADAM DIED PHYSICALLY AFTER HE SINNED, WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS THE DAY DOES NOT MEAN ONE DAY IT IS ENTIRE LIFESPAN OK CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED TO THE THIEF THAT JESUS SAID TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE, DID THE THEIF RESURRECT THAT DAY, 2000YRS HAS ELAPSED AND THE PARADISE IS YET TO COME. ADAM WAS MADE A LIVING SOUL NOT SPIRIT. WHEN GOD SAID ADAM WILL DIE ALL GOD DID WAS TO DRIVE HIM AWAY FROM HIS PRESENCE WHICH IS THE SOURCE OF EVERLATING LIFE SO ADAM JUST WITHERED AND DIED. SO THE NEW JERUSALEM THAT THE RIGHTEOUS WILL LIVE FOR EVER IS NOT IN THE FLESH. YOU ARE MISGUIDED

LET ME REPLACE THE WORD WITH GOD IN JOHN 1:1 IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE GOD AND THE GOD WAS WITH GOD AND THE GOD WAS GOD.
WITHOUT BIAS LOOK AT THE VERSE 1B AND THE GOD WAS WITH GOD BEING WITH SOMEBODY MEANS WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON THE ORIGINAL TEXT SAYS AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, IF THE WORD THEN METAMORPHOSE TO GOD WHO WAS THE WORD WITH.
WHAT YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND FROM JOHN 1:1 IS THAT THE TWO DIFFERENT SPELLINGS THERE WAS TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE THE WORD (JESUS) FROM GOD( YAHWEH OR JEHOVAH; BECAUSE JESUS WAS CREATED NOBODY CAN ARGUE THAT AND HE WAS FROM THE BEGINNING BUT GOD WAS BEFORE THE BEGINNING.
IF YOU THINK JESUS IS GOD THEN WHO WAS HE BEGGING IN PSALM 16:10 ... DON'T LIVE MY BODY IN THE GRAVE PLEASE DON'T ALLOW ME TO DECAY
WHO WAS HE CALLING MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME IT MEANS A BEING FAR HIGHER THAN HIM HAS BEEN PROTECTING HIM ALL THIS WHILE.
DONT LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR PASTORS PREACH, YOU ON YOUR OWN READ THE BIBLE WITH OPEN MIND AND ASK GOD TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND.
I HAVE READ THE CONFESSION OF AN AMERICAN PASTOR WHO SAID HE PREACHED JESUS IS GOD FOR MORE THAN 40YRS BEFORE HE SAW THE TRUTH IN THE SAME BIBLE HE HAS BEEN CARRYING FOR MORE THAN 40YRS.
THE TRUTH IS OUR PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES ARE NOT FACING REALITY THE ARE PREACHING LIES I KNOW AM A MEMBER AND I ARGUE IT SO MUCH DURING SUNDAY SCHOOLS
I THINK OUR PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES NEEDS REFORMATION WE HAVE DEVIATED FROM THE TRUTH

[quote author=daveP post=104739650]If they come, we dey here, no shaking!!

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IS JESUS GOD? YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR BIBLE
FIRST WHO WAS JESUS PRAYING TO; YOU CAN ONLY PRAY TO YOUR SUPERIOR
SECOND JESUS KEPT REPEATING LET ME DO THE WORK OF HIM THAT SENT ME THE SENDER IS GREATER THAN THE SENDEE
JESUS SAID ALL POWERS HAS BEEN GIVEN UNTO ME WHO GAVE HIM THE POWER IS GREATER THAN HIM
RIGHT NOW JESUS IS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER AS ADVOCATE GOD IS THE JUDGE
JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH MY GOD IN JOHN 20:17 WHEN HE TOLD MARY DON'T TOUCH ME LET ME GO AND SHOW MYSELF TO MY GOD
JESUS ASKED YAHWEH WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME WHEN HE WAS DIEING
REV 3:14 TELLS US THAT JESUS IS GODS FIRST CREATION; AS A CREATURE YOU CANNOT BE GOD
AT THE END OF TIME JESUS WILL BE UNDER GOD 1 COR 15:27-28
JESUS WAS FROM THE BE GINING OF EARTHS CREATION YAHWEH WAS BEFORE THE BEGINNING
YAHWEH HAD ALREADY CREATED JESUS AND OTHER ANGELS BEFORE HE CREATED THE EARTH
IN THE BEGINNING IN GENESIS IS TALKING ABOUT OUR OWN BEGINNING NOT THE BEGINNING OF GOD
GOD CREATED THE EARTH READ JOB 38:4-8 BUT JESUS AND OTHER ANGELS WERE THERE.
JESUS WAS BEGGING GOD TO REMOVE THE CUP FROM HIM WHEN IT BECAME TOUGH BUT HE SAID IT WAS HIS FATHERS WILL NOT HIS; WHO IS GREATER
YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A JW TO SEE THE TRUTH IN THE BIBLE I ATTEND THE RCCG BUT I KNOW THAT MOST OF THEIR TEACHINGS ARE FALSE. ESPECIALLY HELL AND HEAVEN GOD THE FATHER GOD THE SOON AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT ITS DEMONIC. JESUS SAID BAPTIST IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER SON AND SPIRIT NOT GOD ATTACHED. JESUS CALLED YAHWEH MY GOD 65 TIMES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.
FINALLY WHEN JESUS ASKED HIS DECIPLE WHO DO PEOPLE SAY I AM WHAT WAS THE FINAL ANSWER! YOU ARE CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD : THAT MEANS THE IS A GOD OF WHICH CHRIST IS THE SON.
THE TRUTH IS THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD YAHWEH JESUS IS HIS SON THAT HE SENT TO REDEEM MAN FROM HIS SIN AND THE SPIRIT IS GODS POWER AND ONLY GOD CAN GIVE THE SPIRIT. JESUS SAID WHEN I GO MY FATHER WILL RELEASE THE SPIRIT, THE SPIRIT IS GODS OWN AND HE GIVES A MEASURE TO WHOEVER DESERVES IT
THE POPULAR VERSE JOHN 3:16 FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.....
GOD GAVE JESUS THAT MEANS JESUS BELONGS TO GOD, YOU CAN ONLY GIVE WHAT IS YOURS
JUST READ THE BIBLE WITHOUT BIAS YOULL GET THE TRUTH, DON'T FOLLOW OUR PASTORS MOST ARE WORKING FOR THEIR STOMACH

vybzkartel:
Hebrews 1:8,10

[8]But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
[10]And: “You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.

Jws are mad

Jesus is the creator

EVEN THE WORDS YOU USE SHOWS YOU HAVE NO CHRIST IN YOU. JESUS WAS CREATED AND THAT AUTHOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIES HIM AS GOD REV 3:14. INFACT JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH MY GOD JOHN 20:17. IN 1COR 15:21-22 JESUS IS REFFERED TO AS MAN

jiggaz:
Religious people often complain that we grace preachers don’t emphasize repentance sufficiently. It’s true. I hardly emphasize it at all. But then neither did the Apostle John.

Here’s something that will fry your mind: Repentance is one of the most important things you’ll ever do but John never mentions the word. Not once. Not in his gospel or in any of his three letters. I guess John must’ve been a grace preacher.

Repentance matters a great deal, but you don’t get people to repent by preaching repentance.

“How can you say such heresy Paul?”

I’ll answer that question in a moment. But first, let me ask you which of the following is the best definition of repentance:

1. Repentance means to turn from sin

2. Repentance means to change your mind

As we saw in the last post, repentance is a lot like football. It means different things to different people. But Biblical repentance simply means “change your mind.” It’s what the word literally means. You can change your mind about anything, but Jesus calls us to change our mind and believe the good news (Mk 1:15). True repentance is evidenced by turning to God.

Your definition of repentance will reveal whether you are living under grace or works. In the Old Testament, sinners repented by bringing a sacrifice of penance and confessing their sins (Num 5:7). But in the new we bring a sacrifice of praise and confess his name (Heb 13:15).

We don’t do anything to deal with our sins for Jesus has done it all. Our part is to believe the good news and say thank you Jesus! It is when we receive his gift of no condemnation that we are empowered to go and sin no more.

No matter how much I preach on grace, some people just can’t see the cross for their sins. They write to tell me I’m under-selling repentance. What they mean is, “Paul you’re not telling people to turn from their sin.” It’s true. I seldom do. I’d rather talk about God’s goodness than your badness.

Yet often the message we hear is this: “God is holy and he won’t accept you unless you turn from sin.” It’s sold as a message of repentance and it appeals to our Adamic sense of “I can fix what I broke” but it’s utterly false. It’s a lie to promote the flesh and keep you from coming to Jesus.

The fact is God is holy and he won’t accept you no matter what you do. His acceptance and favor come by grace alone. Got a sin-problem? Turn to the cross and behold Christ. Come boldly to the throne of grace to receive mercy and find grace. His grace is your only hope.

Here are three reasons why you should reject any message that defines repentance as turning from sin:

1. It puts people under law

Preach “turn from sin or you’re not saved” and you are preaching pure law. You are prescribing sin-rejection as a means for salvation. This false gospel actually leaves sinners worse off because it empowers the sin that enslaves them while scorning the grace of God that might otherwise save them (1 Cor 15:56, Rm 11:6).

The righteousness that God offers is not conditional on your ability to perform. Neither your good works nor your bad works enter the equation. The gospel of grace reveals the gift of righteousness that is received by faith from first to last (Rom 1:17).

2. It doesn’t lead people to salvation

Let me give you a picture to illustrate true repentance. Suppose I call you up and give you an invitation to come to my house. You’ve never been here before so you need directions. There are two ways I could direct you. I could give you my address and provide an accurate picture of where I live. Or I could say, “flee from your house – just drive from your house as fast as possible and don’t look back.” Do you see the difference? In both cases you’re going to leave your house. That’s guaranteed. But only by trusting my directions will you arrive at my house. Repentance is just like that. It’s not fleeing from sin like a Pharisee. It’s turning to God in faith. In both cases you will leave your sin. But only by trusting God will you actually arrive someplace better than where you started.

To get people to repent (change their minds) Jesus preached the good news of the kingdom. He painted a picture of where God wanted them to be (with him here and now) and he gave them clear directions on how to get there (have faith in God).

It was the same with Paul. He didn’t walk into Corinth, one of the world’s most depraved cities, and preach “turn from sin.” Instead he resolved to know nothing but “Christ and him crucified” (1 Cor 2:2).

People need to hear how much God loves them. They need to hear about his unconditional favor and grace. The best way to tell them is to reveal the finished work of the cross. When the Corinthian Christians fell into sin, Paul still didn’t preach “turn from sin.” Instead he reminded them of their identity in Christ. He understood that grace, not dead works, is the cure for sin.

3. We’re called to preach the gospel, not repentance

Should you repent? Of course! I actually think there needs to be more repentance, particularly from believers. Repentance should be our life-style. You cannot renew your mind without repenting for repenting means to change your mind. When I discover something new about the goodness of God, I repent – I change my way of thinking so that my life lines up with what is true. I repent every day and it’s wonderful. I’m not the same person I was even six months ago because I am in the habit of repenting.

Repentance is one of the most important things you’ll ever do but you don’t get people to repent by telling them to repent. Instead, give them a good reason to repent and they’ll repent.

Paul said repentance comes as a consequence of learning about the goodness of God (Rom 2:4). So if you want people to repent, tell them how good God is. Preach the good news, which is this: God loves you, he died for you and he offers you his righteousness. Do you believe it? God’s power for salvation – for your forgiveness, healing, deliverance and provision – is revealed in the good news of grace. Do you believe it? All the blessings of God come to us by grace alone. Do you believe it?

Faith and repentance are two sides of the same coin. Repentance, like faith, is a positive response to something God has said or done.

John says little about repentance but he talks about believing over and over. He said that he wrote so “that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name” (Joh 20:31). The key to life is not in turning from sin but trusting in Jesus.

You want others to repent? Then preach the gospel that reveals the goodness of God: Jesus has done it all!


https://escapetoreality.org/2011/11/28/3-reasons-why-i-dont-preach-on-repentance/

OGA GRACE IS JOHN GREATER THAN JESUS. THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST IS THAT OF REPENTANCE AND THE KINGDOM. JOHN CLEARLY SAID LITTLE CHILDREN LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU, HE THAT IS RIGHTEOUS IS RIGHTEOUS. THE PRAYER JESUS TAUGHT US WAS THAT OF REPENTSNCE ......FORGIVE US OUR SINS, STOP TWISTING THE SCRIPTURE.

22jumpstreet:
Can God go against his words or laws ? The answer is No. He honors his laws more than his name.

When the creator says he is the only God. And none will be formed after him or before him. Do you think he was lying.

When he says he can never change, was he lying?

When he said we should not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth, not to bow or worship them, was he joking?
Why are sane human beings that can read and comprehend think It is ok to worship a man as God, and the creator will be kool with it?

Why will the creator refer to him self as "i" and some people think he is 3 in 1.

So many questions begging for answers, but My people think God impregnated Joseph's wife to sire a son, who came to stop people from obeying his father commandments. (Does that even make sense).

My people flee from idolatry of any kind. Jesus is a Roman creation. To deceive the gullible. There was never any need for the Jesus character. Never. There is no plan by God of Jesus in the old testament. If it were, God would have told his prophet. I wonder where Mathew,Mark,Luke John and Paul got the idea from.

God's Law is the way, the truth and life. It is the only salvation given by our creator.

DONT SAY WHAT YOU DONT KNOW read GEM 3:15 HE GOD CLEARLY TOLD THE DEVIL THAT THE SEED OF A WOMAN WILL BRIUSE HIS HEAD

Emusan:
But we have only ONE MASTER who is Jesus Christ.

Or can you show me where anyone else was called MASTER?

JESUS.WAS CREATED SO HE CANNOT BE GOD INFACT 1COR15:21-23 SAYS JESUS IS MAN

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
HERE JESUS IS CALLED MAN AND RIGHTLY SO BECAUSE IF JESUS WAS NOT MAN THEN MAN WILL NOT BE TOLD TO BE RIGHTEOUS LIKE HIM. HOW CAN MAN BE TOLD TO BE AS HOLY AS GOD

vybzkartel:
Matthew 28:17-18

[17]When they saw Him, [b]they worshiped Him; [/b]but some doubted.

[18]And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

WHOEVER GAVE JESUS THE POWER IS HIGHER THAN HIM 1COR 15:27-28
For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

It is God that is putting everything under Jesus feet, so God is exempted at the end JESUS will be subject unto the father that God will be all in all

okorookwus:

Sometimes God shows us a glimpse of how the earth would have been without sin. Just imagine all the cassava you planted coming out as big as this; will we cry for hunger NO
SIN HAS DESTROYED THE EARTH
REPENT SO THAT YOU WILL LIVE IN THE NEW EARTH WHERE SORROW AND DEAD WILL VARNISH AND FOOD WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE

HigherEd:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2484752211668635&id=444807728996437

MY QUESTION IS IT OYEDEPO THAT EMPLOYED THEM OR GOD CALLED THEM

EmeraldDigital:
This is my greatest battle. I'm this kind of guy that like changing girls when I was single. Thought marriage will help me stop but for where, the painful part is I spend a lot just to satisfy my desire of being with new babe all the time. I don't even have a side chick, I just pay for sex and after that I will swear not to do such again but I keep going back to doing same shit. It's really killing my physically, financially and spiritually. Wish I know where to get help from because I don't know if I can help myself anymore. This is my confession. Just this month I have already cheated thrice.

MY DEAR JUST EMBED YOURSELF IN GODS WORK, TELL GOD TO COME HELP YOU YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF. YOU NEED A HELPER, THAT IS WHERE GOD VOMES IN

Kobojunkiee:
So you don't believe what Jesus Christ said then in John 3 vs 16 -21 & John 3 vs 36 & john 6 vs 43 - 47 and also john 10?

It's either you believe Him, or you don't. Which one is it?

I SAID BELIEVING ALONE CANNOT GUARANTEE ETERNAL LIFE. YOU MUST WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION TO MERIT ETERNAL LIFE

PataAlhajaKeji:
It's 2021 and some idiots still believe there's a "God" up there ...

No wonder these thieving, cunning pastors keep milking you fools.

I weep for the future of humanity.

SMH.

Righteousness2, Werey! What do you have to say?

OH NO MY LOVE DO YOU THINK THERE IS NO GOD? PLEASE MY LOVE DON'T ALLOW SCIENCE TO DECEIVE YOU. MY LOVE ASK YOURSELF WHY WOULD EVOLUTION LEAD TO MALES AND FEMALES. WHY HAVE HUMANS STOPPED EVOLVING. AT LEAST WE EVOLVE TO OVERCOME SICKNESS AND SUFFERING. PLEASE MY LOVE I WANT YOU TO KEEP RELIGION AND SCIENCE APART AND THINK, JUST LOOK AT NATURE AND ASK WHICH IS A BETTER WAY TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU SEE. I WANT YOU TO SAY IN YOUR HEART IF GOD IS REAL LET HIM REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU I SINCERELY LOVE YOU AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU IN THE NEW WORLD THANKS

Kobojunkiee:
Again...where do you have Jesus Christ telling you that one?

According to Jesus Christ, in John 3 vs 16 - 21, when you believe in Him you are saved from the condemnation of sin aka Death and are gifted with Eternal life - at what point of this process does "God's Help" come in in addition to the eternal life(grace) He already provides us?

BELIEVING IN JESUS ALONE CANNOT GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE. YOU MUST LIVE ABOVE SIN. WHAT THE BELIEVE IN JESUS (SALVATION) DOES IS TO GIVE YOU POWER TO LIVE A RIGHTEOUS LIFE. IF YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS AND STILL LIVE IN SIN YOU WILL DIE LIKE OTHER NONBELIEVERS. ETERNAL LIFE IS FOR RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS