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RickyJesus:
I like your enthusiasm but I right now my bro I can't deal with dull people.

You don't understand the cruise of the matter but you decided to give your opinion anyway, can't stress myself right now explaining what a dumbass you are. So let's just say you are right to prevent any further back and forth.

Why is your reply caustic to someone who has given no reason for it? You are the thread starter. If differing opinions are an eyesore to you why create the thread in the first place?

Reminds me of the Defoe family massacre. It is hardly heard of in other countries if at all similar familicide happens. The US is notorious for cases like this.

Aemmyjah:
Your mother is terrible
Yes or No


No insult
Just a question

You find it difficult to cope with the fact that God is both a lamb and a lion. You think both symbols are loving? Have you met a loving lion?

Aemmyjah:
Define terrible

You know what it means

MaxInDHouse:
Have you heard from other religions or you're just being delusional over what your pastors told you?

You and I see the Holy Spirit's manifestation, you see the signs and gifts of the Holy Spirit in manifestation, the miracles and power of God demonstrated in the lives of people as I have witnessed His miracles in my life, His fulfillment of His Word, His incontrovertible proof of existence that agrees with His Word. The Apostles of old, and witnesses (now dead or alive) testify to the same thing, and the Apostle Paul even said if he himself or any angel or anyone preaches any other besides Jesus let them be cursed. There is no other name under heaven given by which any man can be saved but the name Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
Your idea of Hell is what you're mistaking since God never told Adam and Eve that they will be roasted alive forever if they rebel against Him rather what God told them is a return to none existence {Genesis 2:17} which is logical from a sane perspective, God offered them a choice which is life but they proved unworthy of life it will result to death which is a condition where they won't have to be a menace to themselves or others! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

As for Adam's descendants who proved to be a source of worthy praise to God with their way of life God intends to bring them back to life {Job 14:13-15} the sight of living creatures going through excruciating pain is disgusting to the true God! Jeremiah 7:31

So the idea of tormenting living creatures forever is totally unscriptural, if you want to know what Jesus taught you have to humble yourself and learn because he spoke in parables! Matthew 13:13, 34

If the judgment of God against sin is physical death then why did Jesus have to descend into hell to strip the devil of his power over death, and lead the captives away? Who were the captives? Ephesians 4:9. This is over 5000 years since Adam. If they were dead, how were they still captives? Is a corpse ever considered to be a captive?

Does it make sense to you that the God who condemned the angels to eternal condemnation in Jude 1:6 will acquit man of the same wrong especially when that man has rejected the priceless blood sacrifice provided by the Lord Jesus? I have told you that your chief error stems from the fact that you are deficient in the understanding of God's just and righteous nature.

Aemmyjah:
If Tinubu destroys all the wicked people that are causing problems and influencing others to do so, he is terrible shey

Is Tinubu doing that based on righteousness? Is his action just? God is loving and terrible because all His ways are just and righteous, including His judgments.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is false because there are thousands of religious books all claiming to be inspired by God and none will tell you that the God they're talking about is not the Almighty.

So you can't conclude that what you read in one book is sufficient to prove that all other books aren't from God.

Every other book that denies the Lordship of Jesus Christ is of the devil. Only Jesus, our God, loves man so much to come to earth and die for Him. Every other false god wants the blood of man. See the difference?

MaxInDHouse:
OK so they need the gospel but when they're not convinced they will be judged or their conscience becomes useless once you have presented your gospel to them?

Which one goes to hellfire, the one who can't make any sense of what you're saying or those who has no conscience?

Are you making futile attempts to twist everything I have said so plainly? Your conscience is part of your spirit. It is the part that tells you that you are doing wrong but ignoring it kills it steadily so that eventually it dies. Asking whether conscience goes to hell or not is like asking whether a person's hand can go to hell while his other parts go to heaven? It is illogical such question.

DeepSight:
Does it make sense to you that an eternal God dies?

The bible says clearly that each will reap what he sows. Therefore it's also absurd to argue that God's justice will involve "dying" to pay the price for anyone.

Being found in mortal flesh, He did. Secondly, if God were to judge you, it would be unfair, unjust to judge you for doing something beyond your human ability to escape. That is why He provided His blood, sinless blood, so that it is our escape from sin. That is what a just Judge would do.

MaxInDHouse:
"There are many Gods" 1Corinthians 8:5

So if you speak about God and another person speaks about God it's the attributes that will help a listener to know the God you're referring to.

As long as your God is different from another person's God you can't claim yours is the true God until it's verified through what everyone can see as proof!

God has differentiated Himself from all other false gods by introducing Himself as the I Am, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Not only that, He has given proof of His existence in numerous ways without number. No one has excuse.

DeepSight:
There you go. Of course you equate yourself with God.

Aside from being deluded, you blaspheme your own God.

I do not equate myself with God, rather, I speak as His ambassador. The ministry of reconciliation has been entrusted to man, not angels. This is why you don't see angels preaching, instead men do the preaching. We preach God's Word as His children, not ours.

MaxInDHouse:
So they don't need Jesus now if their conscience is WORKING right?

Do not confuse yourself. I said God judges them based on their works and conscience where they have not genuinely heard the Gospel. However, where you know the Gospel but you reject or refuse it, God will judge you based on whether you received salvation or not as well as your works. That does not mean your conscience is not a witness against you or for you...it very much is.

MaxInDHouse:
Where is this found in the Bible?

There are tons of scripture verses but Matthew 28:19 should suffice.

DeepSight:
It is you who actually thinks your barbaric ideas are the ideas of God. It is you who, as small as you are, wishes to decree that God is a psychopath, and you wish that no one must question that - since poor God of course, can't speak for himself.

I can only pray that one day you wake up from this absurd stupidity.

A person formulates ideas. The words I speak are not mine but God's. They are not my a product of my thoughts. They are God's Word Himself.

MaxInDHouse:
And if their conscience frees them they will go to your heaven or hellfire?

Where they are not found wanting they will go to paradise and be taught the ways of the one true God. Others will go to hell. You will be judged according to your works. It is written.

DeepSight:
You know, it's truly remarkable how you are able to write "God dying on the cross for you" without flinching at the sheer absurdity of that statement. You write it so casually, and with such calm confidence, as though you are writing "oh, we all know the Earth goes round the sun."

You really need to reflect. Nothing could be more ridiculous than that statement.

Why does it need logical reflection rather than appreciation?

MaxInDHouse:
So God prayed to God for help so that God was crying on to God to deliver God?

God the Father, God the Son (the Word), God the Holy Spirit. Even then, the Bible says that Jesus (God) did not think equality with the Father God robbery but made Himself of no reputation and came to the world. Being found in the flesh as man, He humbled Himself and became obedient even to death on the cross. Because of that, God (the Father) has highly lifted His name above all other names that at the name of Jesus all knees shall bow whether in heaven, on earth or under the earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Someone didn't worship your god because he was confused as there were countless religions all claiming they are worshiping the same God with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines then your God has created a burning furnace where such a person will be roasted alive forever and ever so that is JUST and RIGHTEOUS from your point of view shey?

Ọmọ Satan has really blinded you because the true God never said that!

Countless many refuse to serve the true God because of the persecution they will face. A good many others are not interested in seeking the truth after seeing the invisible hands of God at work in the lives of people through innumerable testimonies. The internet is there so that their search for the truth is easier. There are many who genuinely did not hear the good news but God will judge them according to their works and conscience.

DeepSight:
That Yahweh of the bible is a sadistic monster is beyond cavil.
A deity that even sends a bear to murder little children for poking fun at his prophet.

How petty and childish is that. How insecure, how weak, how disgraceful.

Needless to say, no such deity exists beyond what was invented by the ancient Jews as a tool of fear and control.

Moses the Raven and Sugar Candy Mountain, google this if it eludes you.

You are not wise as to know how the stars were made, the exact length and breadth of the universe but you think your finite wisdom makes you better than God.

DeepSight:
No. Because it is barbaric, period.
And only brainwashed masochists believe in it.

And God dying on the cross for you to save you from the sin that would destroy you is barbaric as well? You are sinking in your sin yet you reject His extended hands of salvation, but condemn Him for leaving you in your destruction as you desire thinking you are more righteous than God who created you.

Aemmyjah:
Use your brain
How's a man who's is a father and husband he terrible and loving ?

Did you read what He did to the earth in Noah's time? Is that not His judgment on the world. Did you also read how He overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah making them an example of His judgment. That is how He can both be loving and terrible at the same time.

DeepSight:
The concept of eternal torment is barbaric.

because it causes friction with your limited human perspective?

MaxInDHouse:
The Hellfire doctrine is what you believe so it's OK but my own God never created any Hellfire. It's either you continue living if you're his friend or He stop relating with you and you are left to return to non-existent! Genesis 2:17

The fountain source of your error is your scarce understanding of the just and righteous nature of God...understand that then the rest will easily fall in place.

Aemmyjah:
How can someone be loving and terrible
You go just de misyan anyhow

If ur pikin use these 2 qualities to describe you, you go like am?

Do you think that the God who created water did not create fire? Hell is eternal prison. A man may be a loving husband and father, but can also be a judge. You accept that. When it comes to God, who is the Groom, and Father and Judge, you suddenly rebel against His nature.

MaxInDHouse:
Fear is not all about terrifying things rather it means the idea of loosing a good friend.

Do you fear a friend?

Can he torture you for breaking his heart?

Well in most cases integrity keepers fear not to hurt their close friends, they cherish friendship!

Context. When Christ said to fear God He mentioned hell fire. He was talking about terrifying things contrary to your submission. In the book of Philippians chapter 2, it says to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Do you relate with your friend in fear and trembling?

DeepSight:
How you guys are able to make peace with the idea of a sadistic God that tortures people in the most horrific fashion is completely beyond me.

Read the Bible to know who He is. You are only defining Him with one side of the coin. A coin has two sides. God is a Shepherd and a Judge, He is both loving and terrible. Being selectivley blind to the other side of His nature is deception. He Himself said to fear Him. Jesus told you whom to fear. If God is all love, then why did He say to fear Him? Doesn't perfect love cast out all fear? So why the need to fear Him? The Bible said the demons know there is one God and they tremble.

MaxInDHouse:
Satan and all badness is will be gone for good as for hell it simply means the place where nothing happens! Ecclesiastes 9:4-10

So stop deluding yourself with the nightmares of some misinformed churchgoers!

You keep quoting Ecclesiastes as if the whole other New Testament and Old Testament verses are useless or invisible. Why don't you quote from the New Testament to corroborate your claim? Is this not the height of deception?

MaxInDHouse:
A return to none existence was prepared only for Satan and his demons not for imperfect humans so get the sense God never had any purpose for creatures that aren't bringing Him the praise He deserves so they will return to none existence that's the meaning of what you're reading!

Lol. Did you just juxtapose Satan and his followers with future non-existence? Even common sense tells you that your interpretation is an arrow that has missed its mark by many degrees of deviation from the truth.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy Gehenna is the dump site where Israelites throw their rubbish including the carcasses of dead animal and executed criminals. There is fire always burning there and maggots that often eats the remains of dead bodies.

But all that is too heavy for your brain it's the torment of living humans that's starving you as if they must not die again!

The translation, your preferred translation, clearly said Gehenna is a place where the maggots never die, not where there are always maggots as erroneously interpreted by you. Russell is in hell paying the wages of his lies. You don't have to follow him.

The subject matter here may be "Pentecostalism" but it takes a low jab below the belt of the Christian faith. Describing the gift of tongues as "gibberish" is but one of the stones the writer has pelted at the Christian belief while cowardly dodging behind her introducing statement to intend no offense.

With her spearheaded cynicism, she has pricked the body of Christ by characterizing its obedience to worship and dance before God, the Head, as some transactional interaction whose sole purpose is to fatten the purse of its spiritual leaders. She says it is specifically directed at pentecostalism but where other Christian denominations like the Apostolic faith, the Methodists, etc are at the receiving end of her onslaught against pentecostalism should we call it a case of stray bullet or manslaughter?

Her last paragraph is quite bolder and leans more towards the intent of her article chiefly to smear grease on the Christian faith as if she would be the first (she came two thousand years late). It was designed to inspire introspection in the same way someone who is intoxicated should inspire thoughts toward being sober.

Don't know her but from what I have read she must have lived a beautiful selfless existence. She will be looking forward to her glorious resurrection body on the day the Lord returns. She is sleeping in Christ.