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IMOHS:
Mathew 26 Vs 24-25

Please, learn the difference between woe and curse. The word Jesus clearly used is 'woe'. It is not the same as pronoucing what would befall him like He did to the fig tree.

IMOHS:
You keep saying Jesus came and died to take away our sins, why did christ then indict humanity on the cross by saying father forgive them for they know not what they do. Humanity murdered the son of God. Also if Jesus was supposed to come and die to wash away our sins, why was Judas Iscariot cursed by jesus for being that channel for the so called salvation?

Christ did not come to condemn the world but to save it (John 3:17). That means your choice of word "indict" is in error. Please, point out the scripture verse where Jesus cursed Judas Iscariot.

justlove91:
Maybe it's because he didn't come in the flesh to die for your sins.

The bible is just one book out of hundreds of religious books.

Jesus did not and cannot die for anyone's sin, whatever you sow, you you you will reap, Jesus will not reap it on your behalf.

There is only one Way, Jesus. Rejecting His blood sacrifice to redeem you from everlasting misery is folly beyond solution.

So unfortunate. So sad. What a dark day. Lives snuffed out at the snap of the finger. What is their eternal destination? For those who died and didn't know Christ a more terrible fate awaits them. Please, give your lives to Christ. A second outside Christ is more dangerous than putting your head in a crocodile's open jaws. May those who survived recover speedily.

justlove91:
This is how I see it, there is the bible teachings and the Spirit teachings. I have no evidence for the truth of the bible teachings neither do I have for the spirit teachings.

Now, the Spirit teachings make far more sense to me than the bible teachings, so I did the logical thing to do, choose the one that at least made sense.

What you're asking me to do is choose the bible teachings which I do not have evidence of it truth and doesn't make sense to me either.

Haven't you noticed that none of this foul, stinking, hateful, disgusting spirits pretending to be humans dead long ago has said that Jesus Christ is Lord and that He came in the flesh and died for our sins? Haven't you noticed? The Bible is here to guide us on the right spiritual path, not spirits. You need faith to follow God, not evidence even though He has supplied more than sufficient evidence of the truth of His Word as He still does. You are relying on your actions, your goodness to furnish yourself with righteousness when you don't even know the meaning of the concept which is why these demoNs are deceiving you. Friend, stop, pause, and think. If everyone goes to paradise on their own righteousness why then did Jesus come to die for our sins?

Moshybear, that friend of yours cannot be the standard for right, wrong, and success. God is. Everything that glitters is not gold. You know that. Seek God first. Learn from your mistakes. Never stop moving forward even if you have to crawl. You will be making good progress.

Familiar spirits. Don't trust them. They will do anything to deceive man including acting as deceased persons. Your soul's eternal welfare depends on heeding this advice.

RickyJesus:
That's in no way a differing opinion, he doesn't even understand the Crux of the matter; I have entertained alot of comment that are in line with the Op.

"dumbass" is a strong word. You could just have closed your ears to what he said in preference to the strong word used. In my case, I prefer typing as a form of communication using whatsapp, but I wouldn't begrudge anyone the right to their preferred communication style. Voicenote has its uses, so does typing. I understand there are things that can't be expressed through typing where the effect sought may be watered down. That is where voicenote comes in. Just one of pros for voicenote.

Aemmyjah:
Question
No insult

Will you attribute your mother as terrible?
Yes or No?

Wrong question. When I cite the terrible or severe nature of God, I am referring to His judgment after a person has died without salvation. There is no mercy or salvation in the grave. Judgment is instant. Comparing this to a person has no basis or logcal relationship because the person is not God who loves the good and evil and judges them when they die.

RickyJesus:
I like your enthusiasm but I right now my bro I can't deal with dull people.

You don't understand the cruise of the matter but you decided to give your opinion anyway, can't stress myself right now explaining what a dumbass you are. So let's just say you are right to prevent any further back and forth.

Why is your reply caustic to someone who has given no reason for it? You are the thread starter. If differing opinions are an eyesore to you why create the thread in the first place?

Reminds me of the Defoe family massacre. It is hardly heard of in other countries if at all similar familicide happens. The US is notorious for cases like this.

Aemmyjah:
Your mother is terrible
Yes or No


No insult
Just a question

You find it difficult to cope with the fact that God is both a lamb and a lion. You think both symbols are loving? Have you met a loving lion?

Aemmyjah:
Define terrible

You know what it means

MaxInDHouse:
Have you heard from other religions or you're just being delusional over what your pastors told you?

You and I see the Holy Spirit's manifestation, you see the signs and gifts of the Holy Spirit in manifestation, the miracles and power of God demonstrated in the lives of people as I have witnessed His miracles in my life, His fulfillment of His Word, His incontrovertible proof of existence that agrees with His Word. The Apostles of old, and witnesses (now dead or alive) testify to the same thing, and the Apostle Paul even said if he himself or any angel or anyone preaches any other besides Jesus let them be cursed. There is no other name under heaven given by which any man can be saved but the name Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
Your idea of Hell is what you're mistaking since God never told Adam and Eve that they will be roasted alive forever if they rebel against Him rather what God told them is a return to none existence {Genesis 2:17} which is logical from a sane perspective, God offered them a choice which is life but they proved unworthy of life it will result to death which is a condition where they won't have to be a menace to themselves or others! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

As for Adam's descendants who proved to be a source of worthy praise to God with their way of life God intends to bring them back to life {Job 14:13-15} the sight of living creatures going through excruciating pain is disgusting to the true God! Jeremiah 7:31

So the idea of tormenting living creatures forever is totally unscriptural, if you want to know what Jesus taught you have to humble yourself and learn because he spoke in parables! Matthew 13:13, 34

If the judgment of God against sin is physical death then why did Jesus have to descend into hell to strip the devil of his power over death, and lead the captives away? Who were the captives? Ephesians 4:9. This is over 5000 years since Adam. If they were dead, how were they still captives? Is a corpse ever considered to be a captive?

Does it make sense to you that the God who condemned the angels to eternal condemnation in Jude 1:6 will acquit man of the same wrong especially when that man has rejected the priceless blood sacrifice provided by the Lord Jesus? I have told you that your chief error stems from the fact that you are deficient in the understanding of God's just and righteous nature.

Aemmyjah:
If Tinubu destroys all the wicked people that are causing problems and influencing others to do so, he is terrible shey

Is Tinubu doing that based on righteousness? Is his action just? God is loving and terrible because all His ways are just and righteous, including His judgments.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is false because there are thousands of religious books all claiming to be inspired by God and none will tell you that the God they're talking about is not the Almighty.

So you can't conclude that what you read in one book is sufficient to prove that all other books aren't from God.

Every other book that denies the Lordship of Jesus Christ is of the devil. Only Jesus, our God, loves man so much to come to earth and die for Him. Every other false god wants the blood of man. See the difference?

MaxInDHouse:
OK so they need the gospel but when they're not convinced they will be judged or their conscience becomes useless once you have presented your gospel to them?

Which one goes to hellfire, the one who can't make any sense of what you're saying or those who has no conscience?

Are you making futile attempts to twist everything I have said so plainly? Your conscience is part of your spirit. It is the part that tells you that you are doing wrong but ignoring it kills it steadily so that eventually it dies. Asking whether conscience goes to hell or not is like asking whether a person's hand can go to hell while his other parts go to heaven? It is illogical such question.

DeepSight:
Does it make sense to you that an eternal God dies?

The bible says clearly that each will reap what he sows. Therefore it's also absurd to argue that God's justice will involve "dying" to pay the price for anyone.

Being found in mortal flesh, He did. Secondly, if God were to judge you, it would be unfair, unjust to judge you for doing something beyond your human ability to escape. That is why He provided His blood, sinless blood, so that it is our escape from sin. That is what a just Judge would do.

MaxInDHouse:
"There are many Gods" 1Corinthians 8:5

So if you speak about God and another person speaks about God it's the attributes that will help a listener to know the God you're referring to.

As long as your God is different from another person's God you can't claim yours is the true God until it's verified through what everyone can see as proof!

God has differentiated Himself from all other false gods by introducing Himself as the I Am, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Not only that, He has given proof of His existence in numerous ways without number. No one has excuse.

DeepSight:
There you go. Of course you equate yourself with God.

Aside from being deluded, you blaspheme your own God.

I do not equate myself with God, rather, I speak as His ambassador. The ministry of reconciliation has been entrusted to man, not angels. This is why you don't see angels preaching, instead men do the preaching. We preach God's Word as His children, not ours.

MaxInDHouse:
So they don't need Jesus now if their conscience is WORKING right?

Do not confuse yourself. I said God judges them based on their works and conscience where they have not genuinely heard the Gospel. However, where you know the Gospel but you reject or refuse it, God will judge you based on whether you received salvation or not as well as your works. That does not mean your conscience is not a witness against you or for you...it very much is.

MaxInDHouse:
Where is this found in the Bible?

There are tons of scripture verses but Matthew 28:19 should suffice.

DeepSight:
It is you who actually thinks your barbaric ideas are the ideas of God. It is you who, as small as you are, wishes to decree that God is a psychopath, and you wish that no one must question that - since poor God of course, can't speak for himself.

I can only pray that one day you wake up from this absurd stupidity.

A person formulates ideas. The words I speak are not mine but God's. They are not my a product of my thoughts. They are God's Word Himself.

MaxInDHouse:
And if their conscience frees them they will go to your heaven or hellfire?

Where they are not found wanting they will go to paradise and be taught the ways of the one true God. Others will go to hell. You will be judged according to your works. It is written.

DeepSight:
You know, it's truly remarkable how you are able to write "God dying on the cross for you" without flinching at the sheer absurdity of that statement. You write it so casually, and with such calm confidence, as though you are writing "oh, we all know the Earth goes round the sun."

You really need to reflect. Nothing could be more ridiculous than that statement.

Why does it need logical reflection rather than appreciation?

MaxInDHouse:
So God prayed to God for help so that God was crying on to God to deliver God?

God the Father, God the Son (the Word), God the Holy Spirit. Even then, the Bible says that Jesus (God) did not think equality with the Father God robbery but made Himself of no reputation and came to the world. Being found in the flesh as man, He humbled Himself and became obedient even to death on the cross. Because of that, God (the Father) has highly lifted His name above all other names that at the name of Jesus all knees shall bow whether in heaven, on earth or under the earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Someone didn't worship your god because he was confused as there were countless religions all claiming they are worshiping the same God with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines then your God has created a burning furnace where such a person will be roasted alive forever and ever so that is JUST and RIGHTEOUS from your point of view shey?

Ọmọ Satan has really blinded you because the true God never said that!

Countless many refuse to serve the true God because of the persecution they will face. A good many others are not interested in seeking the truth after seeing the invisible hands of God at work in the lives of people through innumerable testimonies. The internet is there so that their search for the truth is easier. There are many who genuinely did not hear the good news but God will judge them according to their works and conscience.

DeepSight:
That Yahweh of the bible is a sadistic monster is beyond cavil.
A deity that even sends a bear to murder little children for poking fun at his prophet.

How petty and childish is that. How insecure, how weak, how disgraceful.

Needless to say, no such deity exists beyond what was invented by the ancient Jews as a tool of fear and control.

Moses the Raven and Sugar Candy Mountain, google this if it eludes you.

You are not wise as to know how the stars were made, the exact length and breadth of the universe but you think your finite wisdom makes you better than God.

DeepSight:
No. Because it is barbaric, period.
And only brainwashed masochists believe in it.

And God dying on the cross for you to save you from the sin that would destroy you is barbaric as well? You are sinking in your sin yet you reject His extended hands of salvation, but condemn Him for leaving you in your destruction as you desire thinking you are more righteous than God who created you.

Aemmyjah:
Use your brain
How's a man who's is a father and husband he terrible and loving ?

Did you read what He did to the earth in Noah's time? Is that not His judgment on the world. Did you also read how He overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah making them an example of His judgment. That is how He can both be loving and terrible at the same time.

DeepSight:
The concept of eternal torment is barbaric.

because it causes friction with your limited human perspective?