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TaminaliaCatapa:
But think, Nigeria is a consuming nation. Can Nigeria produce pencil? Everything is imported and guess what? Nobody gets paid in Naira when you import the ordinary air you breathe

Take your L and move on. Stop digging.


Nigeria’s total imports in 2024 was $40B. That’s Less than 10% of the economy using 2024 GDP or 15% of the economy using rebased GDP. Either way it means most expenditure 85-90% is in Naira, domestic and not fully correlated with the movement of the Naira/ usd . Most of the economy is agric and services, for example the only component of agric that is affected by the dollar is Fuel. fuel is a small component of the cost of produce so fluctuations in Naira don’t correlate 1:1 to the price of agric products.

GDP in USD is only meant for use in international comparisons. Precisely because it is not a true reflection is why GDP PPP was introduced because the purchasing power of a dollar is different in different countries. When assessing a local economy you use its local currency. Germans don’t assesses the German economy in dollars.

Naira was 1650 a few months ago, today it is 1530, has our GDP suddenly gone up 8% simply because the Naira appreciated? Is the country you are in feel like a country with 8% growth? That alone should inform you of the error in a Nigerian assessing the performance of the Nigerian economy in anything other than Naira.

You you lost the argument……Stop digging.

All you are doing is proving you are not knowledgeable!

jmoore:
Cry me Atlantic ocean.

Cry me Atlantic ocean.

Cry me Atlantic ocean.

Cry me Atlantic ocean.

Anything to divert attention from the real question……is He gay? Is the Obidient movement a gay movement funded by external LGBT donations to install same sex marriage in Nigeria?

Opportunist! Somebody died in July, it’s after Taribo headline you are visiting.

Anything to distract people from asking if he is gay!

jmoore:
Them: Obi will not get up to 1 million votes in 2023.


Obi collected more than 6 million votes.


Deji Adeyanju, peller and geh geh belong to same social media content creator.

The article acknowledges that Obi is getting more supporters, contradicting what Deji is saying.

He will first explain if he is gay, why he gives his wife consent to have affairs, if she has lovers, if her lovers are a security risk, if foreign Obidient sponsorship money comes from LGBT community and what if any plans as he has to legalize same sex relationship ships in Nigeria.

Raf4:
May be you wanted to say that you were a descendant of a past exiled Alaafin. There's no history of any exiled or deposed OOni, never! This just exposed you and your bias.

Enjoy your win! The way you engage alone is such that one doesn’t want engage you.

This time I suggest you read your history. We weren’t the only ones.

I was humble enough to admit I was wrong without prompting. Don’t push it!

Good day!

DeepSight:
I am trying to say the version I know accords with the Alaafin being the rightful King of all Yorubas - while the Ooni was basically a priest. I was asking you if this is right.

. I have since been schooled that Oranmiyan returned to ile-Ife to reclaim his throne leaving his sons as Alaafin and Ooni.

Raf4:
Provide the history books you were taught with here and show us what the history taught you. Oyo Rose to power in 14th century and collapsed in 17th century. Owu, Owo, Ijesaland, Ijebuland, ugbo(Ilaje), Idanre are all more ancient than the most ancient Oyo settlement.

Apologies, my issue was always that Oranmiyan left ile-ife leaving behind an Ooni that wasn’t an Oduduwa blood line. On that basis I had always believed the Ooni wasn’t a Oduduwa bloodline.

Somehow or the other (I guess old age is catching up with me). I was shocked to be told by the head of our family line that Oranmiyan came back to Ife to reclaim his stool leaving behind his son as Alaafin in Oyo and later Ooni in ife. So the Oduduwa bloodline was indeed restored in ife.

I eat humble pie and you are free to gloat, I deserve it. I had read many historical accounts and it is embarrassing that I missed or likely forgot the account of Oranmiyan returning to Ife.

I shall delete all previous erroneous posts.

TaminaliaCatapa:
Like I said, only individuals capable of CRITICAL THINKING will understand my message.

If you were capable of critical thinking you would understand the concept of PPP and the economy does not run in dollars.

Most governments have 3-4x previous allocations in Naira but most expenses are local and in Naira meaning the money they are getting has more pichasing power.

If we were taking the increased Naira and spending it abroad then you would be right but in Nigeria we spend Naira. It’s about the purchasing power of the Naira in the a Nigerian economy.

For example, wages which is almost half of recurrent expenditure of most states has not doubled (the only people with double wages are minimum wage earners of which there are actually only a few relative to overall govt payroll). yet their revenue has tripled.

Again price of cement has doubled but revenue has more than tripled in Naira which means we are getting more value. So Mr Critical thinking Mathematician, this is a Naira economy!

IGBOPROMISE1:
No matter how many alternate monikers you use, your anti-Igbo trolling and dog whistling is unmistakable! Keep on trying to make something out of nothing!

I don’t use alternate usernames. We have a right to know if Obi is gay, if his wife will be a security risk, if the Obidient movement is a gay movement? Did you not have a right to know about Tinubu’s certificate and money forfeitures?

Answer the question. Is he gay?

Imagine a bigot calling others bigots

2023 elections
in the north APC, LP and PDP all won some states
In the south results were as follows:
SW. PDP 1 LP 1 APC 4
SS PDP 2 LP 3 APC 1
SE LP won all 5 states with 87% overall vote. No party got 10% in the SE

And you come here calling people tribalists and bigots?

The rest of Nigeria voted outside tribal lines. You gave all your votes to your tribe and you are callin people tribal bigots?

2027 is waiting! You can’t fool people again with your religious and tribal propaganda!

We will interrogate and ask questions about the sexuality of any future president and we shall repay your 2023 moves with our votes.

I laughed when I saw low levels of crime.

Just wait l!

muyico:
Dangote is a group of company, strong men,full dere,maybe the lady, part of people Dangote is feeding

Or maybe VDM should be picked up for breaking the law?

Imagine Obasanjo talking about compromising the judiciary

bdon123:
Peter obi has always been from a rich family n has inherited wealth.obi had known business while as governor n before he ever ventured into politics while wike had nothing

Nonsense! Which rich family?
Rich people steal! Peter obi instructed the MD of fidelity bank Faro collect money from Dasuki. Peter Obi’s aide was caught with N250m cash in boot at a check point. Peter an obi did not conduct LG elections for 7 years, what happened to the LG funds? He had security vote for 8 years.

The bottom line is the oropertvwas bought while he was a governor. Today that property is his property because he is a director in next. He owns shares on next and next owns the property.

He should explain.

Don’t worry we are piling up the things he will have to explain come election time including whether he is a homosexual or not!

bdon123:
Peter obi has always been from a rich family n has inherited wealth.obi had known business while as governor n before he ever ventured into politics while wike had nothing

Nonsense! Which rich family?
Rich people steal! Peter obi instructed the MD of fidelity bank Faro collect money from Dasuki. Peter Obi’s aide was caught with N250m cash in boot at a check point. Peter an obi did not conduct LG elections for 7 years, what happened to the LG funds? He had security vote for 8 years.

Same thing he did when he invested Anambra state money in a brewery he had investments in. Peter Obi has a track record of diverting state funds using his family company as a front/shell!

ayo2008:
Let the deception continue

No deception, a $230m investment in our grid already announced

Peter Obi bought a $2m house in GRA Ikeja using his brother and his company Next as a front while he was governor. Only to return after leaving office to resume as a director of the company to claim the property. It’s so blatantly obvious! You would have thought that people would say what’s going on here. This house was purchased while he was governor, can you explain and prove it wasn’t gov funds hidden under his brother/company? Everybody kept quiet as if they didn’t know it was govt money.

I don’t have a problem with people calling for Wike to explain and he should but be consistent. Ask EFCC to probe Obi too.

Ernchibyke:
This man has been in the senate for God knows how long...
Let him give younger generation an opportunity

It’s funny how the lazy youth always come on social media saying give the younger generation…….

Do you know how old Kalu was when he became a governor? Nobody gave it to him!

I gave up on Nigerian youths when after staging the ENDSARS riots which shook the govt, instead of them taking advantage of the movement and their demographic, they decided to surrender to 60+yr old fraud in Peter Obi and waste the momentum of the movement. Allowing themselves to be captured by a tribal agenda!

Nobody is giving you anything. You get what you work for. Tinubu was a senator at 40, Orji Kalu was a governor 39!

Secondly only citizens who don’t think, change a ranking senator who represents them. For instance if it were the turn of the south to become senate president, a first time senator can never be elected.

There is a reason assembly members don’t have term limits. If a senator is representing you well, keep re-electing him. Senate is not supposed to be a merry go round.

Datti should abandon Obi and join up with Sowore. They will never win but they are more consistent and principled opposition figures.

Obi is unprincipled!

ZombieTAMER:
And no bot win ban this one for this
what kind of forum is this

They allowed you username

Raf4:
Provide the history books you were taught with here and show us what the history taught you. Oyo Rose to power in 14th century and collapsed in 17th century. Owu, Owo, Ijesaland, Ijebuland, ugbo(Ilaje), Idanre are all more ancient than the most ancient Oyo settlement.

I don’t have to prove anything to you. Stop disturbing me or I’ll block you.

The respected academic historians on Ife are known!

Raf4:
Your own history is so flawed. Firstly, Oranmiyan was neither the 1st born nor last born of Oduduwa. Secondly, Alaafin is neither the first born nor last born of Oranmiyan. Even if the Oonis aren't the descendants of Oduduwa as you wrongfully said, they're pure Ife people, If not, Ife people and their Elus/leaders wouldn't have accepted them. Also note that Oduduwa never established Ile-Ife. Several leaders like Oranfe, Agbọnmiregun, Obatala etc had ruled Ile-Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa.
You said there was no known Ooni before Sir Adesoji Aderemi after Oranmiyan? You're joking, right? The likes of Obamakin, Ogun, Obalufon, Ogbogbodirin, Lajemisan, and those who reigned during the colonial era like Derin Ologbenla, Olubuse 1 (that every other Oba including Alaafin vacated their thrones for when he travelled to Lagos), Ademoluyi Ajagun looked like a joke to you?

your 1st problem is your english comprehension. First of all i never said oranmiyan was the 1st or last born of Oduduwa, some accounts will tell you he was a grandson. I never said ooni's are not pure ife people. stop making things up. I am a descendant of a past exiled OOni. what i said was all the ooni's from the time oranmiyan left ife till Aderemi was elevated above the Allafin are curiously absent in the stories of Yorubaland, wheras most stories revolve around the many Alaafins.

you are free to believe whatever story you want. Abuse and insults will not force me to accept your version. I have a functional brain, I am not an Obidient. i am a descendant of an OOni, it is in my interest for the OOni to be the superior King but from what I have read, on the balance of probability, he isnt. The the stool in ife is the throne of the yorubas i am not doubting that but based on the fact that I beleieve the story of the traditional priest ursurping the throne and oranmiyan leaving to establish his own kingdom leaving the OPA behind. there is no evidence that that priest was removed and the occupant is a descendant of oduduwa and therefore his descemdants. for me the ooni's are a line from the traditonal preist who ursurped the throne. thats the version that makes sense to me, thats the version i believe....you can shout and insult me from here to ife and back. I have a list of my ancestors to about 1500AD, even my elders are fuzzy on actual details so no unknown from the internet is going to convince me otherwise when professors and people who have actuaklly spent their lives studying ife history say otherwise.

In any event, since we dont document our history, no one can claim 100% accuracy to his story. its all theories, probalities, possibilities and likelyhoods. If you have to insult people to accept your version, your version is likely false!

this is a topic of last week. i dont have time for further engagement especially with someone with poor english comprehension who says i said things i didnt say.

Procashtips:
You said you didn't watch the video, so no need for further assumptions

I didn’t watch idea because 1) there was already a long text account of the problem in which all I read was financial difficulties before he died. I reiterate that’s not the govt responsibility. 2) I don’t watch videos redirected from Nairaland to people looking for hits. If his problem was representation at the funeral, then I have explained how govt works!.

This is not news worthy anymore, he has been there for ages. Let us know if someone overtakes him.

Procashtips:
From what Taribo said, did he say they were hungry?

Peter Rufai established an NGO helping children achieve their dreams.

What West is saying isn't really about money they way you guys have changed the whole narrative, he's talking about recognition for job done for the country and paying of respect for the day by honoring them during their funeral.

Most of the names you listed, go and check them, some are now into promoting betting sites, gambling, alcohol promotion and the likes.

So it's not about comparing, it's about what the country end up doing for this players as a sign of appreciation at their funerals.

Ok I stand corrected. The sports ministry should have been represented. If that’s his issue. I confess I didn’t watch the video. However there are official protocols for these things. You just don’t bury someone and expect the govt to be there. Sometimes if you want official govt presence and recognition at your funeral, you have to officially notify the govt. don’t just assume that they heard of his death in the news. Former senate president Wayas died and his body was languishing in London for years, he was buried recently and given a befitting commendation service at the senate. But you know what? The senate president said they thought he had been buried all these years because no one from the family notified them of his burial or any difficulties they were having.


When I buried my dad, we were just going to bury him as a family thing, we didn’t know we had to officially inform his former office even though he had retired, he was their former head. They were the ones annoyed with the family for not informing them and We had to make an alteration to the burial schedule to accommodate them and they came with full representation all the way from Abuja to our village in the SW.

govt officials attending a funeral involves many things, they may want to be part of the programme, they may want to hpgive a speech, letter of commendation, possible gift to family, the petrol, the drivers allowance, the out of station allowances for official representatives, all these thing must be requested for and approved officially by someone in the minsyptry. If someone does not make the official request, nothing happens…that’s how govt works. So the question then is did the family give the sports ministry official notice of the funeral? When this story is finished I can guarantee you they didn’t inform the ministry.

If there is one thing I can guarantee about federal govt agencies, no matter how broke, it is sending representatives to funerals of dead high ranking officials from that agency. They don’t play trust me because they all know their own will come and it’s an opportunity for out of station allowances. So long as they are officially informed. Peter Rufai though not a direct ex employee was a national asset, if the family informed them they would have sent a delegation.

Procashtips:
Like players were making good money then. Seems you are judging some of these players with those who play now or those who played in big clubs.

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It was good money then if you are not greedy. Please take a good luck at the Nigeria World Cup squad of 1994 and 1998.

Why are you hungry and they aren’t?

Many of them became internationally more influential after their careers, emenelo was director of football for Chelsea and is currently the director of the Saudi league. Loosen became a manager in Belgium and other countries, Amokachi, eguavon, keshi, sis sis, amunike all became international managers or assistants, ekoku and ikpeba utilised their skills as pundits, taribomwas busy wearing white garment, I don’t know what Rufai was doing, maybe he was too proud to ask his influential teammates for a job or to point him in the right direction.

If you want to use the argument that the money wasn’t as high as now, you can go through the list and see how many of those players played at the same time with the same low wages.

Where were Rufai and Taribo when their mates were taking coaching badges or looking for punditry or football related work? Taribo decided to form a church. Life is about choices we make.

Your Nigerian team mate was the technical director of Chelsea for 7 years under Abramovich and you are hungry?

press9jatv:
And if they don't manage their finances well, the country they represent in their time can't take care of them niiiii.

are they the only Nigerians?

HisaacPlus:
Nigeria’s Presidents and FX Reserves: A 2007–2025 Timeline

#TheCableIndex

We have since discovered that a lot of those figures were padded. i dont trust any figures under Emefiele. With due respect to the dearly departed PMB (May his soul rest in peace) the figures Emefiele was publishing were false. It was gross not net. The actual figure in Buhari’s last year was $3.9B


The current position is $41B gross,, $40B net or actual!

press9jatv:
Nawaoooo, it's well oooo. Why's Nigeria government not honouring their heroes?

Tell me where in the world where the government is responsible for you simply because you won a soccer tournament?

What happened to the monies they made as professionals? Is the govt responsible for an extravagant lifestyle or poor choices after football?

Peter Rufai has a career earning forex for 13 years
Taribo west had a career playing for the 2 of top teams in Italy at the peak of Italian football and a career earning forex for 14years. If they failed to manage their finances, that is on them

kettykin:
If APC-led twats spent 1 percent of the time they spent on Peter Obi to talk about the economy of the country, Buhari's regime would have delivered and Tinubu will not be running around the world in a wild goose chase

Talking about the economy does not fix the economy. The public whether APC or confused collision of ADC or LP or Obidients are not the managers of the economy, so talking is just a waste of time.

What is productive is to question people who put themselves forward for president. Because ultimately they will run the economy.

Are they leading a double life, are they gay, is the wife allowed to have affairs as part of a sham marriage arrangement? Because when a man is never seen with his wife and she lives a flamboyant life at odds which the prudent life he preaches and then he comes on the honest bunch to say he doesn’t care if his wife has an affair, you wonder what’s going on. That’s the job of the public just like it was your job to question a presidential candidate over his certificate and forfeiture of funds linked to drugs.

We are also asking legitimate questions of all applicants for the job of president.

an African man will never go on TV to say if his wife has an affair that is her business. No self respecting Nigerian man will say that talk less to the public. From what I know about ibo men, they dont joke with 2 things. their money and their wives. something is odd and we need to know. Yesterday was yesterday, I am not speaking about his son, its not like we didnt know about his son. however yesterday brought up the issue of the man himself and we need answers!

Mrexcell:
You guys are just too pathetic have you seen a gay man with wife and kids before?

plenty

prime minister of Britain is rumoured to be gay....... rumour
Kris Jenner, former husband of the Kardashian's mum is gay, he was married for 24yrs with child or children. he even had a sex change ......FACT

Phillip Scofield married for 27 years came out as gay ...... FACT
even Obama is rumoured to have had gay relationships ......rumour


there are so many! many of them married because they were ashemed to come out gay but led secret lives. many of them are gay but because of their political careers maintain a sham marriage and they allow their wives to have affairs!

the more you think about it......... the more it's starting to make sense!

you see a man whose son is gay, whose wife leads a very flambloyant life at odds with the values he preaches, you wonder if it's not part of an agreement. Give me children, help be project the image of a straight family man and in exchange you can spend as you like and have lovers in secret. just look at the family, is it a normal family? something is odd!


alll the more reason why we need to know if your principal is gay

what an unenlightened comment at this fragile time in our economy