Justiceganduje:
As a patriot, I pray that God will answer the prayers of the labour unions and also give job to the jobless. Amen.

If you engaged you thinking cap you will realize that minimum wage increases will lead to job loses. It is one thing for government to pay the minimum wage, private sector will just lay off workers if the minimum wage is beyond their means.

I said in a previous post, there are many people who have a job only because the minimum wage is so low. There is a level of wage increase where your employer starts asking if I really need this guy. Trust me many people will lose their jobs if the minimum wage goes above N100k.

Mrshocker:
Hmmm

Lobatan!!

Islie:


https://dailytrust.com/the-many-battles-of-kano-traditional-rulers-with-politicians/#google_vignette

The root of all this is that all Nigerian Kings lost their kingdoms to the British. After which they became employees of the British Govt to help administer the locals because the land was great but they did not have enough personnel. On gaining independence, the Nigerian govt inherited all employees of govt including traditional Kings. You are only a “King” in Nigeria because the govt says so because your their forefathers lost their kingdoms and the governor is your employer.

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I agree and if you read my posts on the matter I said it was only a ruse to obtain an ex-parte order which by definition is temporary and will expire on the 3rd June. It’s just skulduggery. Either 1) the ex parte order will expire 2) the other party will appear and they will have to prove the non existent human rights violation or 3) the case will be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction if they try to delve into chieftancy or traditional ruler mattters.

Akpakomiza2:


I thought you said the federal courts have no part to play here and that the matter won't go anywhere,that is it will end only at the high court.

Federal high court, which is where the injunction was obtained and the subject under discussion. You are just being pedantic because you know what I meant.

Kingship matters are strictly state matters. The federal court of appeal and Supreme Court only come in as appellate courts for the state high court . A federal high court has no jurisdiction over Kingship matters,they don’t exist under federal law. Any matter relating to kingship has to originate at the state high court.

Akpakomiza2:


Lol.shoukd I quote several traditional matters/chieftaincy matters that have been settled by the apex court sir? Are you aware of the Anthony Ani vs Obong of Calabar matter that was decided by the apex court last year?

But what was the path to the court of appeal? I am sure if you examine, there was no federal court involved. State court. to court of appeal to Supreme Court. No federal court involved. Federal high court has no business with kingship matters.

legallysly:


The Federal High Court is limited in its jurisdiction to the items enumerated under Section 251 of the 1999 Constitution.

I fail to see where Justice Liman derives jurisdiction (in a matter regarding the Kano State House of Assembly) from.

He doesn’t, the matter presented before him was human rights. On that basis he granted ex parte injunction. Ofcourse ex-parte means the other party was not present. Ex parte injunction either expires or other party appears and states his case. At which point the case is thrown out because federal court has no jurisdiction over kingship matters and there is no rights violation.

Akpakomiza2:


You are right which means they won't get to appeal or supreme court abi

They won’t get anywhere.

An exparte order is a tool of abuse of court process by rascal lawyers. Ex-parte means the other party is not present. Exparte orders are temporary orders pending the presence of the other party to present his side of the story.

For example I am your landlord, you haven’t paid rent for years, you go to court to obtain an exparte order prevent me your landlord from entering my property. The judge will ask why? You claim I violated your human rights, the judge grants you the order pending when he can hear from me.

The exparte order either expires or I come to court and the real matter will be heard or dismissed. In the case of Kano, either the exparte expires or when they get to court it will be struck out because there is no human rights violation and kingship matters is not under the jurisdiction of a federal court.

bixton:



You are really mistaken.
Do you really think a High Court Judge will assent to a matter that is not within the jurisdiction of the court. Do you really understand what that even means to any Judge who does that as a career public officer?

Like I said, not only do you not know the law, you cannot read.

The injunction was made based on human rights. It was also an ex-parte order (I am sure you don’t know what that means)

It will be thrown out. No federal law or the constitution recognizes the existence of any King in Nigeria.

Akpakomiza2:


I know the law more than you sir by far.sanusi should have respected himself and stayed away.

Federal courts have no jurisdiction over traditional/customary matters. They are not recognized under Federal law. You can only preside over something that is under your purview.

If you knew what you were talking about, I was expecting you to say the injunction was made based on violation of human rights which is a federal matter. But that was just legal skulduggery to obtain an injunction which will not hold water.

If you knew the law you would have mentioned the above.

Akpakomiza2:


The matter happened within kano

If you don’t know the law, say you don’t know the law.

Federal courts have no jurisdiction over traditional/customary matters. They are not recognized under Federal law. You can only preside over something that is under your purview.

If you knew what you were talking about, I was expecting you to say the injunction was made based on violation of human rights which is a federal matter. But that was just skulduggery to obtain an injunction which will not hold water.

Akpakomiza2:


They still have jurisdiction

Based on?

Kingship and traditional rulers are a state matter, Kings are not recognized under federal law. What is the business of the federal high court?

Georgry:


Finally official.

Congratulations SLS.

Ganduje was so power drunk that he detrone a king just because he spoke truth to power.

Every King is an employee of the state governor. Just as one governor sacked one King and appointed another , another governor has sacked one and appointed another.

clearcrystal:
Ha
Governors are the main problem in this Country.
I'm happy for SLS but it's obvious that the power governors have can make them decide anyone's faith in a state, this should be checked.

Firstly it is fate not faith. Secondly all kings are employees of the governor. They serve at the pleasure of the governors because their forefathers lost their Kingdoms to the British.

I have said this many times. Nigerian Kings ceased to exist in the real sense when the British conquered them. They are just ceremonial employees of state governments.

They are not even recognized in the constitution.

I love SLS but he forgot he is an employee, forgot the Kano empire of his ancestors is no more, got involved in the politics of his employer. With due respect to our traditional kingdoms, they were conquered by the British, once your Kingdom is conquered that is the end, you serve your new master. But for the fact that the British did not have enough personnel to administer the country and kept them in place as a form of indirect rule, they wouldn’t exist today.

arithletics:
But is apc that keeps mentioning the man's name. If they stop talking about Obi no one will hear the name Obi again

It is good strategy to feed and massage Obi’s ego. The more he is in the headlines the more he believes, the more he believes he can win the more he insists on running as president, the more her insists the more the opposition will not be able to come together leading to a repeat of 2023 split votes.

So long as Obi is running for president, Tinubu’s second term is assured.

Obi is a boy!

d142475:
Kenyamo has been impressive as a minister, but his response shows that this desperation to restore flights to Dubai is for the benefit of the elites, who have invested our stolen wealth in that city, hence the need for a direct flight to Dubai.

Elites have access to Dubai and still travel to Dubai despite the ban. Have you not seen pictures of Dino in Dubai since the Ban?

If you go to a country and you engage in illegal activities, it’s no surprise your people and all others associated with you are denied entry.

Chidoka should instead caution his people who are embarrassing Nigeria all over the world with their illegal activities.

jmoore:

If your brain sees it at justifying, then it is pathetic. Learn to comprehend!

POINT: Condemn bad and stop inserting ridiculous statement that they are disgracing Nigeria. They disgraced themselves, not Nigeria .

I know it takes you light years to comprehend something. So read my comment 1 million times so you can understand it.

When you are treated shabbily abroad then you will know it is Nigeria they disgraced. They have not disgraced themselves because you will not hear their people condemn them for their actions. If my family, friends, community etc do not condemn me for bad behaviour in whose eyes have I disgraced myself?

This is you condemning the Chinese for the actions of 1 person. You didn’t say this man you said the Chinese!

jmoore:
The Chinese are misbehaving because the army, police, traditional rulers in those areas are enabling the bad behaviour.

nlfpmod.

This is you conndnimg all police/DSS for the actions of a few

jmoore:
Police/DSS are into kidnapping.

Things fall apart! You cannot build something on nothing!

carzeem1:


Who is going to pay for the tuition, same workers earning 33k/ month?
Frankly, the government should take responsibility for the galloping inflation and respond appropriately with commensurate wage. Thier horrible decisions/ politics and policies should not be burdened on the poor populace.

Did you read what I wrote?

With due respect this mentality is why we are where we are.

We can’t afford subsidies but we say no you can’t increase price of petrol so we continue until we are broke and there is no money for subsidies. Meanwhile money for roads we have burnt in smoke.

We can’t afford cheap electricity but we strike if they dare increase price of electricity meanwhile the people that generate the electricity we can’t pay them and in the end we don’t have reliable electricity.

We do t want to pay for university tuition but somehow we expect good lecturers to want to work in a university where he is poorly paid and be motivated.

I mean what is wrong with us? I have offered the solution. Nigerians are paying tens of thousand of pounds and dollars to obtain university degrees abroad. Such people will jump at the opportunity to pay even N5m in Nigeria if they know the degree will be of good quality. If the true cost of a degree is say N2m, you can charge them 3,4,5m and they will gladly pay. The excess will be used to fund the education of deserving poor students who can’t afford the fees.

It is because of your insistence on paying N60k that those who know the value of a good degree have abandoned Nigerian public universities and the result is you pay N60k for a degree but the degree is worthless. Govt has no money shout all you like and the people who have money to subsidize your education (those paying thousands abroad) are not going to join you in a University with N60k fees.

If the cost of good university education is 2m charge 4m. Those who are paying 20m abroad will gladly bring their children back and pay. The extra 2m will cover the fees for a poor student.

carzeem1:

Your points are valid however, the Nigeria being unproductive and unskilled is entirely as a result of bad leadership and horrible policies which has affected education, transportation, healthcare social services to name a few.
It's a case of no where to hide anymore for the government.

Also, Graft, nepotism etc has reduced the Nigeria ab

2 separate issues. And while ultimately the failure of society is the failure of govt, very often govt is hampered by society and the failure of govt is a failure of society. You only have to look at our universities. I will reproduce below a point I made earlier on the subject.

casualobserver:
It is the people that refuse to pay more than N60k for university tuition back home that are causing all this nonsense.

If tuition was allowed to rise to N1-2m back home, Most of the money and students going into western universities will stay in Nigeria, our lecturers would be paid better, the quality of our degrees will rise, our forex will be preserved and the poor student will actually get a quality degree instead of his worthless N60k degree. A portion of the money from the fees of those who can afford to pay N1-2m will be used to subsidize the poor just like our foreign fees subsidize home students abroad.

But this will never happen because they will protest.

Lumarstone:
The proposed amount as minimum wage is grossly inadequate. Bachelors like corps members can't even cope with that figure let alone family Men with children. Minimum wage should not be less than two hundred kky, or close to that figure. Any amount less than #120,000 is a joke and daylight scam.

I left..!

The right level of minimum wage is around N50-80k.

Many Minimum wage workers do not know the reason they have a job today is because they earn M30k or N40k, inadequate as that may be to get by.

The minute minimum wage rises above N60k many more people will be made unemployed. People will start asking themselves do I really need 4 security guards instead of 2, do I need a houseboy and a maid, do I need someone at the entrance to my supermarket whose only job is to tear receipts. Etc etc

Be careful what you wish for.

The reason why Nigeria’s minimum wage cannot take a worker to the end of the month is because the Nigerian worker is unskilled, inefficient and unproductive. Even plumbers, carpenters, bricklayers and cooks, we prefer people from Benin republic who are more productive l. You need multiple Nigerian workers to do the job of 1 person and so they share the salary. If a Nigerian worker was more productive he would earn more because his employer would not need to employ multiple people to do the same task.

You say N200k is not enough, when you lose the job you have now that pays you N40 or 50k because your employer cannot afford to play you N200k, then you will understand the plight of those who have no jobs and appreciate that at least your 40k job did something for you.

Mcreloaded:
Edo state is paying way more than this.
Fedral government should do better and pay nothing less than N200 000

Employment is selling your Labour.

The economic output or GDP per capita of the AVERAGE Nigerian worker Is N250k a month.

Therefore, Is the minimum wage worker who is several rungs below average doing work worth N200k?

It is the people that refuse to pay more than N60k for university tuition back home that are causing all this nonsense.

If tuition was allowed to rise to N1-2m back home, Most of the money and students going into western universities will stay in Nigeria, our lecturers would be paid better, the quality of our degrees will rise, our forex will be preserved and the poor student will actually get a quality degree instead of his worthless N60k degree. A portion of the money from the fees of those who can afford to pay N1-2m will be used to subsidize the poor just like our foreign fees subsidize home students abroad.

But this will never happen because they will protest.

Treadway:
normal normal I have been reading your lies and distortions, but this one irked me so bad that I had to break my code of engaging with certain types of elements like you on here. Just to puncture your lie, and for others to learn, kindly show us inflation rates of these countries you mentioned that have been battling inflation of just a measly 20% not even our current 34% since 2021.


I already explained all in my thread
https://www.nairaland.com/8017949/way-nigeria-people-govt-got
, esp how I told all who cared to listen that Cardunce-o is at best an australopithecus in a suit...and it feels good to know that I have been vindicated.

I have added the inflation rates for 4 countries, warring Ukraine included as of today

Inflation is relative. When Nigerias inflation was 14-17% for example, the west had an average inflation of 2%. Now it is about 3% in the west and to them it is a big deal enough to derail their economies. For us 3% is paradise because we have never had 3% inflation in my life time and I am no spring chicken. During Nigeria’s best economic boom since 1999 our lowest inflation rate was 7.8%. Western economies will collapse if their inflation gets to 6%….it almost did when it recently got to 5% which is the battle they have been fighting for 3 years and still have not succeeded (they are still @3%). Their target is 2%. In the US inflation is 3%, car sales have fallen, house sales have fallen, basic food items have skyrocketed. And this is just 3% inflation. We have 33% inflation but a growing economy, yet the US @ 3% inflation is tethering on the edge of stagflation…..assuming you know what that means!


They are a debt economy, we are a cash economy. In the west just 1% change in inflation can be the difference between a man losing his house and having his car repossessed. It is not so In Nigeria because we pay cash for every thing. Interest rates and inflation work differently in Nigeria and the west. So they are not like for like.

Therefore Mr wannabe Ignoramus economist, I suggest If you don’t understand economics do not comment on matters of economics just because you can pull up figures from the internet. You have to have understanding of the figures. This is not a beer parlour matter, you need to understand the meaning of the figures you are quoting and you clearly do not.

3% inflation is enough for Americans to cut down on basics like milk.

Antoeni:
Most Dull & Confused CBN Governor

Most dull and unenlightened citizens. All the major western countries and central bank governors have been battling inflation since 2021, it is still not under control. Cardozo is not even 1 yr in office.

Teymanhenry:
Emifiele also acted upon approvals too. Well in Nigeria, bosses hardly listen to professional advice on financial discipline from their accountants

Emefiele is not a career civil servant. The people (civil servants) that enabled the crimes of Emefiele will Go scot free because they have covered themselves.

On this he is right. If you understand civil servants, you will know they are the biggest criminals, they always know how to cover their tracks.

Namaster:
Atiku is BAD LUCK EXTRAORDINAIRE. Losing is his hobby.

But the way Tinubu is dealing with Nigerians, I'll not be surprised if he becomes a one-term President.

You forget that things were hard under Buhari’s first term, yet he won re-election. You forget how hard things were in the lead up to the election in 2023, yet APC won. It’s one thing to be dissatisfied with the incumbent, it’s another to have an opposition that has it’s act together and can win.

Lol @ “achievement”