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Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:56pm On Nov 14, 2019
ojeysky:
Please am still hoping someone will advice me on this. I really need to know if 28.2 is appropriate for bulk or whether I should adjust to about 28.8 since that is the info on the battery says but I like to hear from experienced folks here. Do you guys run your battery at such a high bulk level?
The default setting I have on a MPPT connected to a gel battery is 14.4 bulk and 13.8 float. I have swapped about two batteries with the SCC not really minding the specs on the battery and they have both done fine. Although I later realize that the specs sheet of the batteries too indicated 14.3 and 13.8, so I'd say I was lucky.

So if your battery specifies 14.4 as bulk, then I think you should follow that. But I'd still say you should also wait for the opinion of others.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:53pm On Nov 14, 2019
olatade:
Quick question. Can a 600 watts 12 volt solar panel system be converted into a 24 volts or do i need to buy 24 volts panels again?
I assume your 12v panels are 150watts each meaning you likely have 4 of it. Simply connect the 12v panels in series to make 24volts and then in parallel to make a 2s2p configuration. You end up having 24v 300 watts setup rather than the 12v 600 watts you had before.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:23pm On Nov 14, 2019
ceaser:
So guys, talking of timers, can something of a sinotimer be connected between the battery and the inverter for some form of automation? I wonder if it will not amount to inverter damage if the timer effectively repeatedly connects and disconnects battery supply to the battery terminals of the inverter rather than the factory way of using the switch of the inverter, bearing in mind the fact that the AC load is already primed/switched on to start in all these scenarios.

Thank you.
So in the prolonged absence of answers to the question I posted on here, I decided to take the plung anyways and experiment. And it has been a good performance for two weeks now.

The sinometer took a long time coming (ordered on AliExpress and yet to arrive) and running outta patience, I DIYed some simple automation to control the freezer one-off cycle depending on the SoC of the battery (100ah 12v AGM) hooked to a 1200 watts continuous PSW inverter, 600 watts solar panel 32amp breaker between panel and SCC and 30amp PWM SCC.

Toying around with some PWM SCC I have lying around, I discovered that the parameters are user optional. So I used it to replace the non-user option one that had hitherto handled the freezer.

I opened up the inverter and measured the switch terminal voltage to be around 13.2v, great. Then I soldered wires to the two terminals of the switch and ran it outside the inverter case and closed back the inverter.

I salvaged a 12v relay from a burnt TV surge protector, the relay has 5 terminals (2 for the solenoids and 3 for the NO (normally open) and NC (normally close) terminals on the relay. I identified the NO and the NC terminals and decided to go with the NO instead. This implies that the NO works (and therefore consumes battery energy - 50mA at 12v) only when the relay is energised which always coincides with daytime when the battery is charging.

I connected wires to the DC control terminals of the SCC and put DC out settings at 24hrs output, Low voltage disconnect at 11.9v, High voltage reconnect at 14.1v and panel off voltage (boost charging voltage) at 14.2v. This ensures that the battery always gets to 14.1v full charge everyday (usually by 9am in this sunny period) before the inverter switches on.

The wires from the DC control terminals are connected directly to the terminals of the relay solenoid while the two wires that run from the NO terminals connect to the terminals of the inverter switch. If peradventure the generator is switched on even before the solar panels start to have any appreciable insolation, the external charger connected to the battery charges the battery and the moment the battery voltage on the SCC reaches 14.1v, the inverter switches on.

By evening by the time the battery voltage drops to 11.9v, the inverter switches off till when the external charger comes on or till the next morning.

I tried a low voltage cut off of 12.2v but I discovered that the voltage of the battery drops to 12.0 when the freezer switches on, a voltage at which the inverter is supposed to switch off. Still thinking of designing some sort of few seconds delay circuitry to span the time the battery voltage recovers to above 12.2v before the freezer picks up, so I can increase the low voltage cut off to around 12.2v.

This is to serve as guide for those with similar challenges in simple automation.

Now I don't have to worry about the battery dying from over discharge. Life's good.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:45pm On Nov 14, 2019
chris81964:
Unless you know how to communicate with the inbuilt BMS avoid it. They were sold out when I looked
How d'you mean by this please?

Plan to get a 120ah 12v li-po to replace 12v 100amp AGM battery that powers a 114 watts deep freezer. The startup power draw of that freezer nears 700 watts.

I really hope that lithium BMS will be able to handle it.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:32pm On Nov 14, 2019
Penuelseun:
hope it is not the black inec battery?
No. This is a DIY stuff. It has a BMS and lithium SCC purchased online.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 11:33pm On Nov 04, 2019
Penuelseun:
Which type of lithium battery pack, provide the pictures if possible
18650s with same port BMS, 3s12p, 26ah capacity, nominal 11.1v, full charge 12.4v, low voltage protection 10v.

I assume the battery pack works okay cos it charges well with solar via SCC even with adequate balancing and I've had to reallocate it to a place where it functions as a direct 12v DC for 12v applications.

I am away now, so I can't get pictures.
Science/TechnologyRe: All your Inverter problems by ceaser: 6:37am On Nov 03, 2019
obi4eze:
Hello house,
Please I need a small inverter just for my small bedside fridge.
Your bedside freezer shouldn't have a surge power of more than 500 Watts and a continuous of about 70 Watts at worst. But to be double sure, I suggest you seek for that info on the rating label usually stuck on the rear of the freezer. Refrigerators and the likes are best run on pure sine wave inverter.

I think a 600watts pure sine inverter should do the trick comfortably. Pointstores, two posts above seems to have that on offer.
Science/TechnologyRe: All your Inverter problems by ceaser: 6:32am On Nov 03, 2019
pointstores:
600watts pure sine wave 19,000
300watts modified sine wave 6,000
Battery charger 8,000naira
DIY powerbank caseing 8 battery 2,000 4battery 1,000 2 battery 900naira
18650 3s 4s bms 3,000
Ur inverter need 1kva to 30kva visit
Mercury 200ah promo prize 85,000
Mercury 100ah 47,000
Access battery 200ah 98,000
Inquiry visit www.solarvisionnija.com.ng
Indeed, your prices are attractive. smiley smiley
Science/TechnologyRe: All your Inverter problems by ceaser: 6:30am On Nov 03, 2019
pointstores:
You can just buy 2pcs sample to test I don't hype of exaggerate things


1. High operation voltage.
2. High energy density.
3. Long cycle life, more than 1000---500 charge/discharge cycles ( 800% capacity remained ).
4. Minimal self-discharge, less than 10% monthly.
5. Wide temperature range, operation from :-20°C~+60°C
6. Be charged & discharged at anytime because of non-memory.
7. Environmentally compatible.
8. High level of safety, vision Lithium ion batteries catch no fire and cause no explosion in breaking experiment, with acupuncture, smash, drop, and so
Thumbs up bro. You already won me over. The prices are reasonable cos the limited supplies I have have always been from AliExpress at prohibitive shipping prices.

But I have a reservation about that number 8 point of yours o!

8. High level of safety, vision Lithium ion batteries catch no fire and cause no explosion in breaking experiment, with acupuncture, smash, drop

I think maybe you are referring to Lithium phosphate polymer rather than Lithium iron in that statement.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:20am On Nov 03, 2019
Gurus in da house.

Okay, there is this 12v 1000w MSW 20amp solar hybrid inverter that started acting up. I have had this inverter on intermittent operation for the past two years, cumulative of about 3 months total. It was always used with lead acid batteries For the first time, I plugged it into a DIY 12v Li-ion battery pack and I used it with appliances for about one and a half hours before retiring to bed, at which point I switched off the inverter, the appliances still plugged in.

5 am, I heard beeps coming from the living room and got there to find the fault light of the inverter on and the fan blowing like mad! This inverter is not switched on o!

Okay, I tried to switch it on and off maybe that will correct the anomaly, but it does not even output power anymore. I disconnected the battery and reconnected again, but the moment I reconnect it, the beep starts, the fault light comes on and the fan again starts blowing.

The load I placed on the 1000 continuous power inverter wasn't even up to 60 Watts. The fan does not come on until about 150 Watts load. Please anyone with any idea?

Thanks.
Science/TechnologyRe: All your Inverter problems by ceaser:
pointstores:
I can confidently tell is true capacity on these Forum have sold more than 300pcs of 2600mah battery
I have your digits saved. Will get in touch.

Where are you gonna ship from anyway? And are the batteries "protected or unprotected 18650s"?
PoliticsRe: EZUGWU MRAP: Nigerian-Made Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle By Army by ceaser: 7:50am On Oct 27, 2019
PAQ:
Bros one Naijeriya,
Yeast name
Awusa operator
South south fuel
Yoruba (kazim) mechanic
grin cheesy grin
Werey!
Foreign AffairsRe: 39 Frozen Bodies Found In Refrigerated Trailer In U.K Were Chinese Migrants(Pics by ceaser: 6:48am On Oct 26, 2019
ajl:
You see, most of those Chinese you see working in Nigeria are prisoners sent by China to make money for the government. They also get a cut too at the end of their prison term. Obviously they can't run any where in Nigeria because its certain their passport would have been taken away from them. A Taxify driver who used to work in a Chinese company in Nigeria mentioned to me that his boss told him this.
shocked shocked Prisoners Kwa?! Our you will see officers of the NPF guarding some of them, even intimidating patriotic and law abiding owners of the country (Nigerians) in doing so.
Science/TechnologyRe: All your Inverter problems by ceaser: 7:41am On Oct 25, 2019
pointstores:
O. 5c 2000mah 250naira
1c 2000mah 600naira
1c 2600mah 700naira
3c 2600mah 850naira

Inquiry 08166117634
Are the quoted capacities real and not falsely overderclared?

If the capacities are really true, then you may have secured for yourself patronage from me.
Science/TechnologyRe: All your Inverter problems by ceaser: 7:37am On Oct 25, 2019
bisiriyu7hamed:
hello
I bought 200ha Dry Cell [ two pixies ] of new Luminous inverter battery Direct from the Company, But the battery did not last more than ten Month. which I see it as wasting of money

If I use it to power 32inch TV it does not last more than 45minute before it go off

Can someone explain what I don't no about Inverter Battery ?
Because am afraid of going for battery again, Why am thinking of going back to Generator
If it is directly from their company, then i think that makes it easy as 10 months is still likely to be within warranty period and you can claim a redress.

On the alternative, are you sure you treated the batteries well, i.e do not deep discharge them and charge them appropriately at the expected charge current, charge voltage and float voltage? Did you add the two batteries to an already existing battery bank that you have been using before now?
Technology MarketRe: A BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO MTN LUMOS.NO SUBSCRIPTION PAYMENT by ceaser: 7:30am On Oct 25, 2019
adotse1:
I'm a student, can the cheapest one power a regular hp 15 laptop, phone and tablet...?
I think for those requirements of yours, it's more power conservative to use a direct DC power bank for those appliances.

It powers the laptop directly, your phones and tablet via USB while you utilize the laptop power bank to charge the power bank or you use the provided charger that comes with the power bank.

There are sellers that have this.
CultureRe: Why Is Sacrifice Made Before Burying Someone That Drowned? by ceaser: 7:56am On Oct 22, 2019
mamaafrik:
oya you go die near River first,soo ni eja sobonde nie nan,we go watch u like cinema.
You believe in Tirah power,but you con wan rubbish tradition
Are you Egun (Dahomean)? Cos that statement you posted up there looks like the language.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 8:30pm On Oct 16, 2019
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:59pm On Oct 16, 2019
BetaTechnicians:
Can anyone help with the limitations of modified sine wave inverters, real life experiences please, and also compared with ups that are also modified sine wave.
Real life user experiences please.
Well, generally Modified Sine inverters always output rough, jagged RMS in their AC output while PSW inverters have fine outputs. Some Modified Wave inverters have cleaner output than others and therefore can still be used within safety limits for some equipments than those with rougher outputs.

And with all modified wave inverters, while it may work with your capacitance loads or IC loads like TVs, sound systems and laptops, what you get is undesirable humming feedbacks in the circuit that manifests as lound hums from the TVs or sound system. I have experimented a Modified PWM with a table fridge once before and while it worked for a day, the compressor got unbearably hot, something I believed was due to the modified wave input from the inverter.

I have placed an automatic gate opener (with AC RMS motor) on a modified wave inverters and it worked but there is this same high humming sound that the motor makes when it works.

You can safely use a modified inverter with most rugged TVs and even with most decoders (since their power pack is external) but most other sensitive equipments may have shortened lifespan.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:47pm On Oct 16, 2019
BetaTechnicians:
The load would be too much, I don't trust the relays in those timers to handle such currents.
Finally someone looked the way of my question. I had decided to go with experimentation the way I got around a couple of hitches that remained unanswered here. At least I will be glad to relay back here the success or otherwise of the experiment.

@BetaTech, I still think going with a high ampere rating than the one in the circuit will fall within safety limits. I still intend to go with the experiment when I have the opportuned time, but I still welcome more guidance as yours from others.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:34pm On Oct 16, 2019
Topmost11:
Pls is this li on battery? I saw it for 550 naira each. I am planning to use 8 of it to build power bank for my phones. I learnt it is sold for about 1500 each. That is why I ask to confirm before I comot myself?
This one is 4200mAh. Is it ok at the price? How much is each sold for. Thanks
For your first question, yes that is Li-ion, the 18650 (186mm by 50mm dimension) battery.

Except if it is used, fake or with a falsely declared may rating, each costs nothing less than 1,500 naira.

So I doubt the 4200mah that costs 500 naira each for that offer. Also the highest mah any quality Li-ion like NR Samsung 18650 batteries have is 3000 nah. I have yet to see an 18560 with more than 3000 mah capacity.

So that battery you have there, if new, is likely fake. At worst, a used one.

But you can test the authenticity of the declared capacity if you have a Li-ion charge-discharge meter or a rough estimate if you have a mini weighing scale to just estimate the weight and compare it with the expected weight for the declared capacity (you can get those reference values online)
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:20am On Oct 11, 2019
ceaser:
So guys, talking of timers, can something of a sinotimer be connected between the battery and the inverter for some form of automation? I wonder if it will not amount to inverter damage if the timer effectively repeatedly connects and disconnects battery supply to the battery terminals of the inverter rather than the factory way of using the switch of the inverter, bearing in mind the fact that the AC load is already primed/switched on to start in all these scenarios.

Thank you.

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:14am On Oct 11, 2019
earthrealm:
ok same way the epever itracer works.

@ceaser, the BTS inverter u talked about, does it have battery type selector switch, and any idea of the charging current for 3.5kva 48v or 24v models?
really appreciate the update, getting detailed info about products in this part of a world is a big hassle

Finally, has anyone come out a stand alone energy meter that could be connected to the CC to read off and store harvest data, i have seen similar device for a ac watt meter
The BTS does nt have battery type selector switch, at least not the 12v 1kva spec that i am familiar with, but I really can't say if other higher specs will have those sweeter features as upgrades.

It should be of note that even though it has in built NEPA charger (10 amps for the 1kva, I guess) It was imperative to get an external charger. This is because as an AVR, in moments when the mains voltage drops to below 190v or thereabout, it shunts the only available power to powering the plugged in devices while starving the batteries of charging current so that at the end, the batteries basically remain at a static SoC. But when the voltage is adequate, it gives a direct supply to the plugged in gadgets while at the same time it charges the battery. However when devices are not plugged in, it shunts all available power to battery charging.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 3:20am On Oct 10, 2019
earthrealm:
does it store daily harvest logs?...ie you can come back and check your daily solar harvests say last 7 days or more.

@3kva 24v MPP solar MK or GK series, you seem to praise it a lot, does it have that capability as well? How did you go about shipping, its a whooping $236, via dhl...pretty steep if you ask me. i recall u said the seller offers discount , since the hybrid inverter is $375, like how much discount are we looking at?
the MakeSkyBlue has nothing like log records, just the harvest for that day resets at the dawn of a new day. And probably the same can be said of the PowMr since they have the same form factor.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 3:10am On Oct 10, 2019
earthrealm:
Someone said he bought this recently.
Cant remember who...
Are they working ok..
Any regrets?.
The price seems interesting for a budget install grin
The original MakeSkyBlue (I think it is the original because of the users' reviews) have been working fine for close to a year and only recently found out about their feud with PowMr on who has the original product. While I think that there may be a fake MakeSkyBlu* imitation out there that troubles PowMr, I plan to also have a unit of that PowMr soon just to verify their claims and find out who is lying out of the two.

But for now, I can't categorically verify PowMr CC performance
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 3:03am On Oct 10, 2019
zeestone99:
So I have been observing this particular set of 48v/100ah lithium battery installation.

They work just as fine, no issue of battery balancing. They work as a single unit of 48v . the bms also does a superb job in both protection and load sharing. More in depth review to come up soon.
Li-Po or Li-on 18650s?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 2:52am On Oct 10, 2019
earthrealm:
Prag inverter is only one of the moderately priced inverters with DOD setting capability, and its over 80k mor e expensive that its contemporaries, 4kva 48v prag is about 250k, while mustpower and felicity of same capacity is about 160k - 180k
BTS inverters have 20% and 50% selectable DoD switch. They have the same form factor (the shape, the screen display and all that) as Prag, which in my opinion is overpriced. The BTS even has inbuilt AC chargers and AVS function too; features that Prag also boast of in their line up. A 1kva BTS as a cheaper alternative to Prag (spec for spec) has served faithfully for 3 years and still going strong.

They are available on Konga and Jumia
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 2:11am On Oct 10, 2019
BetaTechnicians:
I also align with your opinion but I believe there's a way around it. a timer would definitely come in useful and also opportunistic loads like a fridge or freezer to mop up excess current which would prevent overcharging of the batteries during the day and periods when the pumping machine isn't in use and also a good battery disconnecting module to disconnect the heavy loads during periods when the weather is bad or for a particular SOC of the battery.
These are assuming he only runs such heavy loads during the day.
So guys, talking of timers, can something of a sinotimer be connected between the battery and the inverter for some form of automation? I wonder if it will not amount to inverter damage if the timer effectively repeatedly connects and disconnects battery supply to the battery terminals of the inverter rather than the factory way of using the switch of the inverter, bearing in mind the fact that the AC load is already primed/switched on to start in all these scenarios.

Thank you.

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 1:40am On Oct 10, 2019
Topmost11:
Pls advice urgently needed on the setup in the picture.

Panel is 600watts
Wiring is parallel
Inverter is 12v, 900vac

Thanks
While I may not really think of applying this your principle to a solar panel-CC-Inverter set up, I strongly feel it will come in handy in a solar water heating concept i am working on.

The usual AC water heater (Aniston products), around 15 litres capacity, swap a 24v DC heater in for the factory AC heater and connect directly to 24v solar panels. There will be two units of this and I have been thinking of ways to swap the two between a single solar panel supply once one is fully heated. This idea of yours comes in quite handy in this. I feel the only thing left to think about now is how to automate the switch between the supplies to the two heaters rather than a manual changeover switch.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 4:55am On Sep 29, 2019
solasola:
I would like to propose an optimized use for solar installations especially for personal home use. This idea is not entirely new, and most solar packages offer these solutions in some ways. Its all about going the DC way. That's the same reason mtn solar gives 2 DC light, Azuri gives about 4 plus a dc tv. Using dc appliances improves solar power efficiency incredibly. Hence there is no need for lots of power adapters we all have around the house as these adapters greatly decrease the battery and inverter efficiencies.
Hence to get optimum use of battery life, my advice is to run purely on DC gadgets as they are becoming quite popular in the market currently. Your bulbs, security lights, TV, fan, even refrigerator can run all on DC.
I am currently off-grid and run all my lights, fan,tv, phone charging on DC.
Good one. But if you will have to run power socket points on DC, especially from room to room, the drop in DC voltage that occur over long distances will preclude that. You will also require thick gauge wires for those long distance connections if DC appliances that it will handle are more than ordinary DC lights, eg A 30watts led TV some 15 meters away from the power source will require some thick gauge wires, same for an 80 watts refrigerator.

You will also need to ensure the voltage of your DC power thru the wires is higher than the nominal voltage of your appliances and then use a DC-DC buck to get the desired voltage at the point of termination to each outlet.

For instance, what I do is have btw 16v-24v running from to the charging ports around the house and then USB wall sockets (12v-24v input range) buck convert to 5v output. Light supplies of 16-24v get supplied to CC-CV buck packs that supply 12v to light bulbs for other appliances (cctvs, alarm systems, sprinklers etc).

DC, though desirable for efficiency is not as good as AC for very long distances.
Technology MarketRe: Canon SELPHY CP740 Photo Printers For Sales. Limited Time Left!!! by ceaser: 4:42pm On Sep 28, 2019
And apparently, you don't pick that call.

Check your missed calls. Chat up the glo no that ends with 607.
Technology MarketRe: Canon SELPHY CP740 Photo Printers For Sales. Limited Time Left!!! by ceaser: 4:26pm On Sep 28, 2019
piuspaul:
No. Call me with your WhatsApp number and I will chat you up.
Okay

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