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Lagarbeer did not 'celebrated' cos of ur terrible english!

Posted by: OLAADEGBU
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Quote from: mazaje on Yesterday at 02:02:20 PM
You are running out of gas my friend. . . .Where in the US constitution does the blasphemy law appear?. . . .Stealing is wrong because it affects every society negatively, there are societies where people have never heard about the version of your God yet they still know that stealing is wrong, no?. . . .

God who created us has hardwired His moral laws in our consciences and in that way those who are without the law can still do the things that are in the law, it is because folks have tried to silence their consciences with the opinions of sinful godless men thinking that they will feel good by stiffling the alarm bell ringing in them.  The conscience is the police man alerting you between what is right and wrong.
  @ olaadegbu, God bless u man, keep telling them d truth.

@ Thehomer & mazaje, from ur vocal support and defense of this despicable, unnatural act, i deduce u are gays! Feel free to come out of d closet afterall this is d 'faceless' internet.
No matter what anybody says, no matter how u try to bend nature in an attempt to get support (from animals) 4 ur abominable act , what u do remains a misnomer, unnatural, sick & abominable!
If u're reading this and u'r gay, listen, don't let anyone decieve u, deep down in ur heart u know it just ain't right! u know it's not natural. Now here's d bad news- God hates it with a passion, why, cos it goes against His original plan (procreation). For this reason, He destroyed d cities of sodom (where they got d word sodomy) & gomorah with fire! (If u don't believe in God pls look at nature critically and decide within ur heart if He exist or not.)
As for Obama, what do u expect from a liberal? They accomodate just anything in an attempt to please everyone, but that doesn't make them right all d time.
I percieve very soon some crazy pple will start fighting for their right to marry animals _{they sleep with them already} Disgusting? that's where all this is leading to, that's why we must not allow d voice of a few drown d voice of d majority. _{dis na 1 of d few reasons i still luv ma naija}

Don't mind Naija girls. Some won't even give you a pen on your birthday.
But they expect you to throw a bash for theirs
Some of them need serious orientation
Supported, most naija babes are self centered, always demanding from their guys as if d guy na ATM! Their love na one-sided- me, myself & i. Greedy lots, most especially my ibo sisters!

Posted by: Mudley313
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@ MUDLEY, hi, i've bin around though quite busy but always in touch with nland.

Huh

um, i know you before?
U don't have to be rude, a simple 'wasn't referring to u' wld've done it'.

@ Tudor, very funny but right on point though! I just luv ur sense of humour

@ MUDLEY, hi, i've bin around though quite busy but always in touch with nland.
@ ALL, this only goes to show how far d commercialisation of the gospel has gone. When i heard Benny hinn advertise d sale of that bottle of oil on TBN, i almost wept for d millions of gullible xtians all over d world _{nigerians most esp}who wld definitely fall for it. I've been hearing some not so palatable stories about him but this is d first time i wld hear such directly from him _{i don't listen to his mesages alot though, this was by chance}
 I shared this with someone and she was very vocal in her defence of d 'mog', wondering how dare i question what d 'mog' says. Though she didn't voice it out but her undertone was 'touch not my anointed' which unfortunately is a common refrain among xtians who have refused to SEE & HEAR! They believe in BLIND followership. My reply is, how have u 'touched' d 'annointed' _{assuming he is} by pointing out what u see as erros/unbiblical? Why did Paul commend d Berean brethren for cross-checking every word he said with d scriptures to ensure they were not misled?
 I wld suggest these set of pple shld tell d police not to 'touch' d infamous 'annointed' rev King I bet they wldn't, and why not? cos he's been exposed! There're thousands of 'rev/pst/bishop kings' all around us who hide under d cover of 'touch not my annointed' to perpetuate their  evil  scheme, making money off gullible xtians. Do we have to wait till they kill someone/pple _{like 'most holiness', 'annointed' 'rev' king did} b4 we start talking? _{crying over spilt milk}
 On d other hand, these same set of pple see nothing wrong in 'touching' and condemning d 'mog' TB Joshua (am not saying he is a true man of God or not) just because their GO/pastor does same _{some animals are more equal than others i guess}

@ queeneve, gangstaboo and co, thumbs up and congrats on ur wonderful relationships.
Most nigerian men that marry foreigners do that cos of their (d ladies) simplicity and straight forward approach. AA ladies know what they want and go for it and rarely luv for money.
On d other hand, When a naija babe says NO she may just mean YES and vice-versa. Most are always after money and would rather marry a rich chimp or be his 3rd wife than marry a young hard-working, up-coming man with potentials. They luv big society weddings, not minding d fact d poor guys may not be able to afford it (some guys actually go to d extent of borrowing just to get married). No naija babe want a low-key court wedding, it must be loud cos they want to pose for their friends, always putting pressure on d man. Change ur attitude and more of u will graduate from ur spinsterhood class else u become old maids hating on AA babes 'snatching' ur men! _{cos that's d root of d matter}

Wow, this is a very interesting thread and it's an irony that while fiancees/wifes of naija men love and have nice things to say bout us, our naija sistas are all over the place pulling their brothers down! Ur claim u're watching 'a fellow woman's back' is only half d truth. D other half is U'R PLAIN JEALOUS of these lucky ladies enjoying their relationships with naija men! I'm sure most of u are SSS _{single & still searching} Haba, not even a single good word about ur naija bros, una wiked!
by: DaRapture
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AA women who date and or are silly enough to marry a Nigerian guy are damn fools with a capital F, and deserve what they get. I'm tired of hearing all these trifling failure stories about their careless Nigerian/African exes, like I give a poo. Cheesy
I think u're d FOOL here to assume all naija guys wanting to maryy AA women are out for papers. Have u imagined in that little brain of urs he might have his papers already? Or didn't u read some of them say they're happily married to naija men?
Read a post by a white lady where she says they had a registry wedding in lagos cos they didn't have enough cash and they've bin married for like 2 yrs (shows they're happy). Next thing 1 mrs 'know it all' was saying rubbish that naija guys don't do reg marriage but elaborate church weddings. What's wrong with a reg wedding? It's because of ladies like u (forgotten ur name) that most naija guys don't marry on time, cos they want to meet up with ur elaborate wedding demands, silly girls!
I just luv d posts by those AA women happily married to naija guys, i wish u all d best things in ur marriages. Naija guys are hard working and will always fend for their families.
To all AA ladies, black or white interested in/dating naija guys, enjoy ur relationships, take d words of advise here as a guide, don't let my sistas here scare u away from that luvly relationship. If u've concrete evidence it's not 4 real, feel free to call it off, else work it out with ur man, nobody's perfect. There're desperate men of diff nationalities looking 4 green card, not just nigerians. Even d average nigerian looking 4 green card is hardworking and may luv u 4 real .
To my sistas in da house, una own too much, wetin? we all know there're some bad eggs around but must u make it look worse than it actually is? As if u pple are perfect. _{naija girls are materialistic; u make ur man pay 4 everything, even gift on his bday, spend so much on u b4 u agree to date him, spends on u & ur famiy after marriage ignoring his own pple, d list is endless} Make una no let me open una yash thread on 'what i hate about naija girls' But that wld be stereotyping wldn't it?

I heard d mog Benny Hinn say these words on TBN sometime in april/may this year. Holding a bottle of what i believe is olive oil, he encouraged viewers to place their order right away (about $25) as d oil will make them avoid mistakes in their business this year 2010. I cld hardly believe my ears!
Should mog's/churches be sellling items/materials (oil, handkerchiefs etc) with promise of miracles if used? Are there instances where the 'power' in these items caused miracles? Did Jesus or His disciples sell such items?
Did anyone here watch that prog? pls confirm.

@ Topic, i agree with u, d false teaching vary from denomination to denom. But i want to digress a little; was watching TBN about 2 months ago and Benny Hinn was speaking, he said something i find really baffling. He had a bottle of oil in his hand and was encouraging viewers to buy it claiming 'it will protect them from making business mistakes in this year 2010'! I cldn't believe my ears! Pls did anybody watch it?

@ eccentric, tank u by brother, u captured it perfectly! CEC missed it when they teach A XTIAN CANNOT FALL SICK OR FAIL, BE POOR ETC For now we can fall sick, be broke (Paul had an infirmity, Timothy had stomach sickness and paul had to advise him to take some wine for it) and there's no record of d apostles been rich (not that there' anything wrong with been rich though). In short God sometimes let these things happen to us so we can learn some lessons eg most successful pple have experienced 1 failure or d other, learnt their lessons, b4 they finally made it.
  There will come a time when the bible says there won't be sickness or pain or death, not in this life though, but in the life to come (rev21:1-4,  rom8:18-23). God only allows some of us to experience some measure of this superhuman nature in this life as a type of what is to come in d life after (when the born sons of God shall finally be manifested, rom 8:19-23)
  When u teach that pple can experience this 'super human nature' in this life if they continue to sow one seed or d other and keep 'watering' d different seeds, it is no defferent from d 419 that promises u huge sums of money if only u sow a 'seed' into their phony biz deal.

@ surugede, i believe ur story cos i was in abuja some 3 yrs ago and saw a newspaper that's not common in d south (can't rem d name), on d front page (in small letters at d bottom left, like an advertorial) was a quote from d koran that said something like- KILL D XTIANS & PAGANS IF THEY REFUSE TO BE CONVERTED, FOR THEY ARE ONE AND THESAME; INFIDELS! with d verse stated. Those familiar with d koran should know the portion.
Let's face reality, d ultimate aim of islam as commanded by d koran is to forcefully convert d world to islam! Those saying islam is a peaceful religion are just decieving themselves.
Btw, can somebody conversant with d koran pls confirm d above portion of d koran or is it quoran?

1st june, 197,

@ poster, 1st of all, ur english is terrible, or don't u read thru b4 posting? Secondly, dis is d most ignorant post i ever read!
The problem with ignorant xtians like this poster is that they don't study The Bible on their own, but only live by anything their so called 'Daddy' says.
@ Davmor, you're simply the ignorant one here, if you have not studied your Bible enough to understand what Jesus said in Matt. 23:9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
The way members of some churches worship their GO is both appalling and similar, 3 of them readily come to mind- WINNERS, CEC & RCCG.
I remember during my service yr in katsina, d pastor of d winners church there used to pray 'IN D NAME OF D GOD OF MY FATHER BISHOP OYEDEPO'. I used to wonder if God was only oyedepo's father and not his also.

@ Nuclearboy, kunleoshob, ogajim, davidlyan, and co, i want to say welldone and may God continue to grant u d courage to always stand for d truth. It's good to know there're still pple that see thru subtle lies & deciet sugar-coated with d name of Jesus. (Btw, d scripture that says 'MANY SHALL COME IN MY NAME SAYING I AM THE CHRIST AND SHALL DECEIVE MANY', does not mean they will say they are christ _{[/sub]since they're coming in His name[sub]} but that they will say JESUS IS CHRIST and shall use that message _{[/sub]which is actually true[sub]} to decieve many! Which is what we see all around us, pastors using d name of Jesus as cover to decieve many) _{[/sub]think about it[sub]}. U're doing a great service to millions all over d world who ordinarily would've been easily mis-led.
@nuclearboy, can i meet u, are u in lag I'd luv to be part of ur little gathering (getting sick of conventional 'church' myself, i luv been around pple that seek d truth so we can rub minds. my e-mail- tundechass@yahoo.co.uk tanx and hope to hear from u soon.

@ Enigma, kunleoshob, ogajim and co, u must understand that d hardest thing 4 any human to do is to ACCEPT ERROR OF BELIEF! Seeing d way CEC members (joagbaje, gunners007 and co) have been frantically struggling, albeit unsuccessfully _{[/sub]clawing on straws actually,[sub]} to defend their church and GO, and how those crooked fruits members were begging pst kris 4 forgiveness, i now understand why one so-called rev king could pour fuel on some of his (hypnotized) members, and _{[/sub]while they were still on their knees begging[sub]} struck a match and burnt them alive! And i tell u, if one had not died, u'd still see pple here comparing him to prophet Elijah and saying 'touch not my annointed'! _{[/sub]sickening![sub]}
@ Joabgaje, gunnerz007 and co, alot has been said here and i'm not going to say much, just this- pls listen to ex cec members and learn from thier (ugly) experiences.
In CEC, u're cajoled, sweet-mouthed, arm-twisted and coerced _{[/sub]in a very subtle way[sub]} to part with whatever u have in the name of sowing for 1 thing or d other. U are most especially vulnerable if u're looking 4 one miracle or d other (as if Jesus collected seeds from pple b4 healing them), coupled with all d other financial commitment u are (arm-twisted) to pay. The members i pity most are d workers, those ones don't have any excuse! _{[/sub]more like slaves[sub]}. I remember a female friend (from a muslim famiy) of mine dat just got converted to xtianity some yrs ago. Fortunately or unfortunately she found herself in cec, and b4 u cld say jack she was made a worker (usher). thereafter it was made clear to her she had to comply with practically all financial swindling commitment in BLW (she was a student then). It got so bad she cld hardly feed or concentrate on her studies, and when she cldn't redeem all her pledges she was literarilly hounded and made to feel 'd word wasn't working in her life'. When she cldn't take it anymore she had to run 4 safety! I could go on and on and on, i've seen and heard so many sad and unfortunate things in dat church!
I'm not a member of cec but used to worship there once a while, _{[/sub] was enjoying d sweet talk[sub]} and i noticed some funny things like
- pastors/leaders (including female ones) slapping (real hot slaps!) those under them for d slightest provocation!
- members dropping money and personal effects (suits, shoes, jewellries, even cars!) while d showman pastor is preaching.
When i was still in Ife, i went to BLW (as they're known on campus) secreteriate (in new buka) and saw personal effects (shoes, watches, jewelrries etc) been sold on auction. when i enquired from my friend (a member) she said 'oh, those are d things pple sow during sermons'. I was shocked and asked why those things were not given to those that need them! My little cousin (15yrs old) actually dropped the shoes her mum bought her at d alter one sunday morning while d 'sermon' was on in their branch at egbeda!
@ OP,If this kind of fraud (and similar ones in d past) had happened in developed societies like US, or UK, what do u think would have happened to d GO? (considering d fact that some of d thieves confessed they were influenced by his teachings)!

@ coder, am interested in webdesign and have started learning on my own, i've learnt html and now on dreamweaver. But i need asstance and guidance so as to move faster and not miss anything along the way (from my experience in digital photography, it takes longer learning on ur own and may miss some things along the way). I'm also interested in php or .net (which do u think is better?). How can i reach u? my contacts: 08030822276, 07041342233. e-mail: digipixstudio@yahoo.com am in ogba, lagos.

I had some very ugly, unbeleivable experiences with diamond bank. I opened an account some 2yrs ago, 6months later, N3000 was been deducted from d acc monthly for 5 months (N15k) without my knowledge. When i found out, they said it's d fixed monthly charge just introduced for that acc (can't remember d name) and was asked to migrate to another with normal cot charges. They claimed to have sent txt to that effect but i didn't recieve any (2 other pple i told went to check and also discovered same thing). I did migrate, but you wouldn't beleive on d 30-12-09 i recieved a text to d effect that from 31-12-09 (d following day!) N10,000 cot will be deducted from my account monthly! Where in d world is N10k/month cot charged? I got that txt around 12.30pm, had to go and clear my acc b4 they robbed me. Truely, The following day i went to check my acc and it was in d red (-N9500). Since then i had to abandon that acc, but my fear is some of my customers may pay into that acc (though i tried informing them d acc is no longer in use).
When i complained they advised me to migrate (again!) to another acc (DBXA) to 'ENJOY' zero cot, but with monthly charges of b/w N3,500-N1,500 monthly charges, which is still on d high side! This is nothing but robbery!.

Issues like this should be simple and straight forward- identifying and exposing lions in sheep clothing. But Nigerians are so religous, emotional and sentimental they can't see or hear anymore! It's appalling!
  To begin with, the poster never said pursuing wealth is a sin/crime, but it's so glaring that most pastors nowadays operate exactly like con men (419)! The only difference is that d 419 victim gets to know he's been duped but d 'pastors victim never knows, instead d buck is passed back to him. He's told to keep believing, hoping , watering his seed, increasing his faith etc (The moment d victim voices his duobts, he's told his unbelief has killed his seed/miracle).They tell u to 'give to God first' (sow into their lives) if u want anything from God. They go as far as discouraging pple from sowing into d lives of d needy, saying u will not get good returns. That u only get good returns when u sow into their lives. This is d teaching of d rccg open heavens devotional (i actually opened a thread on that-'pastors=priest & GO=high priest -RCCG').
  The next thing, they run to d old testament and start giving examples of d widow dat gave d prophet, king solomon's 1000 sacrifice etc. They blatantly ignore d examples of Jesus- He healed/gave/blessed d pple without collecting a dime, instead he fed them after healing and giving them d word.
  I could go on and on but truth is i'm tired- tired of talking & arguing with pple who see and hear these things ike my very self but choose t be blind & deaf! Why are pple (nigerians especially) so gullible? I think poverty and desperation to get rich quick make pple vulnerable and that's why they always fall victim to these pastors con men.

@ kunleoshob & all, i'm busy @ work now, but will find time this evening to make a comprehensive post concerning my explanation of d true meaning of 'born again'. But meanwhile, just ask urself this questions:
- can u be born again twice?
- if u can only be born again only once does that mean once u're born again u can go on commiting sin and still remain born again? (this is what some churches teach)
- if after been 'born again' u commit a sin, what happens then? Are u no longer born again? if u repent of that sin, are u now born again, again?
- why do we still fall sick, lack and experience what everybody pass thru even after been born again? (Saying 'am strong when u're sick doesn't change d fact u're sick!)
This is d era of grace quite alright, but is it a license to live our lives d way we deem fit? or are there God's laws we're to obey? laws that act as our mirror, to guide us. Concerning what peter said, know that Scripture interprets scripture. This is a topic that require wide and intensive study, not just taking one verse alone and building a belief around it while ignoring others. Like i said earlier, i'll make a comprehensive post this evening.

Sorry, that smiley should be 8 (rom 8 i mean).
@ Nuclearboy, what we should do is study and seek d truth for ourselves. Prove all things from d scripture. You can't force d truth on pple, they have to decide to seek and accept the truth themselves. Alot of pple base what they beleive on hearsay/sentiments, without proving anything.

After careful study i've come to discover the true meaning of been born again. Stop to think: have u ever wondered why Jesus did not go around preaching 'u must be born again?'. He only used the word/term in answer to nicodemus' question. He went about preaching  d good news.
 There's a difference between repentance and been re-born or born again. When u accept Jesus into ur life and repent of ur sins, u become a begotten child of God, ie u're likea  child that is conceived/begotten in d womb. That child must stay in d womb for 9 months developing all it's body parts before it's finally born. That's how a christian must grow spiritually, developing spiritual gifts while on earth, dies and be reborn/born again in d resurrection before he is truely and finally born again! Then we shall be like Him, we shall have heavenly bodies and all d qualities of a born child of God that d whole 'creation of God groan, like a woman in labour awaiting' (rom , we shall possess. Even Jesus in answer to nic's question went further to say 'he that is born of the flesh is flesh and he that is born of the spirit is spirit'- While on this earth, in this life, we 'are in the flesh (though not of it), born of d flesh, but after the resurrection we shall have spiritual bodies (born of the spirit).
 Do u know that even Jesus himself was a begotten child of God while on earth? and became born again when He died and was resurrected? Even so we must pass thru this process to be like Him, and that's what water baptism symbolises.
 Have u ever wondered while after been 'born again' we still fall sick, sin, lack etc It is simply becos we have not come to d fullness of God's image, born sons of God (pls read rom 8 thoroughly). When d sons of God are manifested, when we're finally re-born/born again (after d resurrection), we shall be like Him- super-human! There will be no more sickness, lack, even death shall be no more! This is where some churches miss it when they preach that once u're born again u can not fall sick, lack, die, etc that u become superhuman. We all know that while in this flesh, we can fall sick (paul, timothy etc where ill) and pass thru what any other human go thru.
 Pls pardon me for not citing all relevant scriptures, just saw d topic and decided to contribute, cos i've been planning on starting a thread like this myself but have not had d time (though i'm sure u're familiar with most of d scriptures). I'll be back with relevant passages in d bible.

Very funny and real! Don't kno y some naija girls just luv embarrasing guys that come their way, or y i used to have panic attacks anytime i wan toast babes those days. This thread's bringing a flood of memories; i've quite a few embarrasing ones, let me share some-:
- Looooong time ago, in pry 4/5 i think, had an almost embarasing exp. There was dis pretty and brilliant girl in my class, margret, used to fantasize bout her alot, we sat beside each other in class. i wld escort her home (pass my str), then trek back to my house. One day i summoned courage to write her a luv letter, prob was i cldn't spell more than 2-3 letter words, cld'nt even spell love! Anyhow, i composed & panel-beat a letter by lifting d most appropriate words & phrases from a reader i'd crammed, to fill in 4 words i cldn't spell.
Finally i slipped d letter to her in class, she immediately tucked it in her box. Then i started thinking, she's so brilliant my teacher used to confirm d spelling of some words from her, i magined her laffing her ass off while reading my grammatical blunders! few mins later i asked 4 d letter back but she refused, i persisted but she wln't bulge. I grabbed her box in an attempt to retrieve my disaster of a letter and a struggle ensued (we were sitting in front). It caught d attention of d teacher and she asked her to bring d letter, i almost passed out. Luckily 4 me d teacher read it and just smiled (probably cos she 's a friend to my mum).
Also, some few yrs ago, while waiting 4 a bus @ d bstop, there was this clean chic standing beside me and i tot it wldn't do any harm to chat her up. I started flowing- hi, hw'r u doing? bla-bla, she didn't say a word 4 some secs, all of a sudden she yelled 'WHAT IS IT, PLS LEAVE ME ALONE!' And all eyes turned in our directn. Omo trust me i give am back, i also raised my voice 'ARE U OK? Y ARE U SHOUTING LIKE A BUSH GIRL, went on lashing her 4 a few more secs then bone. All d while she never said a word, just stared sheepishly.

Used to think bout it too. My conclusion is- there seem to be an obvious connection b/w d fruit and nudity, implying it was intimacy dis then means satan had sex with eve thru the serpent. And lets not 4get d serpent had legs and (am sure) was closest to man in resemblence (closer than ape).

@ogajim, totally agree wit u and still insist pastors are 1 of d major cause of our passive, laid-back, God-will-do-it attitude of Nigerians. Someone said their pastor told them- 'this is not our kingdom so we don't nid to fight 4 our rights' _{such ignorane} dat 'Jesus didn't fight back when persecuted' _{d height of pple's ignorance sometimes make me want to cry} Imagine dat!!!

I don't think ur gf's mum's lying, cos similar thing hap to me som yrs ago. was into recharge card biz then. someone (suspect someone around my str that knows me well) called my sales girl mimicking my voice (she swore it sounded exactly like mine) and mentioning some personal stuff bout me b4 demanding for ten N1,500 cards. Fortunately/unfortunately, she had just 4 (that's 6k worth) and sent them, b4 calling me (like ur moda inlaw) _{y do dey always do dat?}. When i asked y she didn't call my num b4 sending dem, she said d impersonator told her my/his battery was down.
My advice is to try and explain to ur girl it's a common 419 trick that's hap to lots of folk. But if she's still unreasonable then bone her! u'll get some1 better. Like som1 said earlier, hussle well, try hammer so this kind of bull won't hap in d future. Cos imagine if u've dashed her like N10,000 b4, wld she doubt u?

@ Marvix, just replied a similar ignorant (pardon me) post like urs on another thread and u make me sound like a broken record. If d black americans & south africans took ur advice, u'll agree with me they'll still be in bondage, and Nigerians wont be struggling 4 visas to go to US & SA to escape this hell called Nigeria.
 Let me refresh ur memory a little _{cos nigerians tend to be blessed cursed with short memory}: d struggle against racism/apaarthied in d US & SA was actively led & fought by pastors (rev. martin luther king, arch bishop Desmond tutu). In contrast, what has ur pastors and GO's done; pray, and are always quick to urge their _{gullible& ignorant} members to pray & pray in d face of outright criminality and brazen oppression of d pple. D only ecxeption (pst tunde bakare) whom u've decided to attack, is d only shining star in d dark, gloomy, murky sky of christianity in these trying times facing our nation. Am not surprised though; obviously, these wealthy, jet-flying GO's don't want to rock d boat _{by standing 4 good against evil} cos of their huge investment. Not to forget these corrupt & criminal govt officials/politicians are given front seats in these 'mega' churches, from where they donate and sow part of their loot into d life of d pastor & his church _{to thunderous applause from the ignorant members, high on (religous) drug} . Is it any wonder Nigerians are so passive & docile _{push d Nigerian to d wall and he'll break d wall and continue sleepwalking}
  My advise- don't just swallow everything u hear hook, line & sinker. The bible admonishes us to PROVE ALL THINGS (like the brethren in Berea), and HOLD ONTO THAT WHICH IS TRUE!