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petra1:
It's only as administrative illustration . That doesn't mean he's referring to them as our high priests . Look at the scripture below For example

Exodus 7:1
And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet

Was Moses a god? Was Aaron a prophet no? But administrative Illlustration . It simply means Moses will speak through Aaron just as God speaks through a prophet

Admin illustration u say? Lol, so d tithe they collect in d name of priest n high priest is an illustrative or literal collection? Stop chasing shadows my friend, free urself from fear n bondage n begin to use ur God-given brain to think!

petra1:
It's only as administrative illustration . That doesn't mean he's referring to them as our high priests . Look at the scripture below For example

Exodus 7:1
And the Lo rd said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet

Was Moses a god? Was Aaron a prophet no? But administrative Illlustration . It simply means Moses will speak through Aaron just as God speaks through a prophet

Admin illustration u say? Lol, so d tithe they collect in d name of priest n high priest is an illustrative or literal collection? Stop chasing shadows my friend, free urself from fear n bondage n begin to use ur God-given brain to think!

Bollinger:
Last guy who stole my phone lived to regret it. I always have the Lookout app on any phone i use. One nice feature it has among others is the ability to take a picture of a thief's face. All you have to do to retrieve it is log in to your google account to access it. The cops just strolled to the thief's place using the location device and it was easy to identify him since they had his picture. Turned out to be a 14 year old kid. Team Android for life.

Nice 1, plz elaborate on d procedure

petra1:
It's only as administrative illustration . That doesn't mean he's referring to them as our high priests . Look at the scripture below For example

Exodus 7:1
And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet

Was Moses a god? Was Aaron a prophet no? But administrative Illlustration . It simply means Moses will speak hriygh Aaron just as God speaks through a prophet

Don't u think it would b wise to allow redeem defend itself, Mr sheeple? Abi na u write open heavens?

kushercain:
you're a white fowl

E pain am!

Ezigbonmadu:
Of cause I pray against all those you just mentioned. But more importantly, I pray against anybody blocking my way. They will all die by fire! If they don't repent. Are you blocking people's way? Then prepare to die by fire if they follow you with this prayer

Shut d fuc.k up, ignoramus! d people blocking ur way are d corrupt politicians, kidnappers, armed robbers etc n not ur parents, grand parents, aunts etc
And if u pray against them n God answers then they'd all b dead by now, try get some sense.

He should ask 4 a refund or report to d police, this is a clear case of scam /fraud. When freeze warn una, na insult una give am, u sheeple will learn d hard way

kushercain:
This man done dey digress, its no longer tithe again abi. holy ghost fire fall on you and melt your freeze. mugu

Ironically, U are d mugu here!

Ezigbonmadu:
What's wrong with this prayer? Are you blocking people's way? Then you will die by fire!

Y don't u pray that prayer against corrupt politicians, kidnappers, armed robbers etc or are u one of dem? Mumu sheeple!

MaziOmenuko:
Lol...Mr Devils advocate, you fail to mention that all these churches have welfare units too and the welfare units are funded by members themselves and not from church tithes.
The MFM instance you gave, the borehole must have been built by tasking members to contribute specially for it. Christ Embassy have a unit they call Inner City that does these charity works; Guess who funds Inner city? Church members who are called partners. So when you see any charity work from such a church, it is not from the tithes but from extra donations from members.

For those saying that no pastor forces people to tithe, you are joking. Most churches don't wed you if your tithe record is not up to date. Have you forgoten how Adeboye was boldly declaring last year that you are not a christian if you don't pay tithe. Now that the truth is coming out, the pastors are gradually retreating their earlier stance and making it sound like a freewill donation.

Gbam!

zionmde:
Since ur body is the church and the person I tried to correct said evil now lies In the church. Sorry bro if evil lies in ur body it doesn't lie in mine

D problem wit u sheeples is dat u don't read ur bible: is ur body d temple of God or ur church building? Plz answer

zionmde:
Be careful what u say
It's good u get to know what God sees the church as
His own abode where he tabernacles. That a certain person or people chooses to be thieves and swindlers doesn't mean the devil has come to occupy God's own abode.


Am not surprised at all. All these were meant to happen. The devil is really putting up a strong fight against the church of God and sometimes he manipulates people who were supposed to be stewards in the house of God just to draw away souls from the kingdom

But the church will keep growing stronger and more influential because no matter whom the devil wants to use to war against the church, we are more than conquerors

Stop dis crass ignorance! Ur heart is d temple/tabernacle of God n not any building

donnie:
Please leave Jesus out of that your life of poverty.

Dumbass sheeple! If u no how many people I train in school u won't open that gutter u call mouth to spew trash. Mumu!

kalvoken:
For the past two years, I have been loosing it when it comes to praying. I will kneel down for prayer, but would end up not knowing what to say. In most cases, I keep repeating same words over and over again.

Please how do I regain my power to pray. I know within me all is not well.

For over 3 yrs now i've not been praying, (only pray occassionally when we pray as a family), niether do i tithe and guess what? My creator has been blessing me! His blessing is FREE, not dependent on my prayer/tithe, but on doing my part, doing the needful: Hardwork! unfortunately, most xtians have been brainwashed to detest hardwork n seek miracles, only to end up enriching d deep pockets of one smart guy
U lack understanding of who god is and how he works. He has done his part, left for u to do urs and things will fall in place, wether u pray/tithe or not, wether you're a xtian, muslim, bhuddist, atr etc. We're all part of him, all religions are man-made.
Just like a farmer that sows, all things been equal, he'll reap, irrespective of his religion, tribe, race etc. ur religous leaders know this Truth but will never want u to know.

mastermaestro:
I wanted to quote the person you quoted because I thought he wasn't smart. But you are miles away from being smart. If you were smart, you would have known by now that many pagans (Gentiles) offer all kinds of contributions to the church including monetary. I want to assume it's ignorance that's at work here. At least you know now. Read your Bible!

ur name shld be 'mister sheeple', MUMU! Quote me again if you're dumb.

ken2baba:
Dangote na Christian

Think again

Think well this time

Think ke? that's too much 4 him and his deluded likes. They've been denied d capacity to reason, all they have is an empty skull!

CAPSLOCKED:

OGA
WHAT THE POOR NEEDS IS FOOD, CLOTHING, SHELTER.. AND THEN JOBS.


THE WORD OF YOUR GOD IS NONSENSE, THAT'S WHY YOUR PARENTS PUT YOU IN SCHOOL WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD SO YOU CAN BE EDUCATED AND GET A JOB.. AND BECOME INDEPENDENT.

IF THE ABOVE HIGHLIGHTED WAS MORE IMPORTANT, THE ONLY CERTIFICATE WE'LL ALL HAVE IS "BSC AND PHD IN SUNDAY SCHOOL", AND WE'LL ALL BE EXPERTS IN ARK BUILDING.

U dey mind d gullible fooool? slowpoke! His parents shld have given him d word of God instead of sending him to skool

donnie:
Christ Embassy is too big and too excellent for such things. Besides, Benny Hinn is not one to tolerate such (the Nigeiran PFN saga comes to mind). Watch below video (from 2:02:46) here and see real people come out to give hundreds of thousands of dollars....Then you can start crying ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P_e4eB4n-8

They can give millions in church but cant help a brother/nebhour in need! On that day, Jesus says he'll deny all who refuse to help d poor, even if they give millions of dollars in church.
A nigerian gives 1m dollars to a church, (most likely proceeds from corruption) and we're jumping upandan in this same corrrupt, poverty ridden nigeria! smh, religion really, is d opium of d masses!

Beautiful milf!

holuwajobar:
mr man, no one will point a gun to ya head frbu to pay tithes.... It is ur choice....

Do 419 n yahoo boys point guns to d heads of their victims? Try use ur brain sometimes, it won't hurt, I promise u.

holuwajobar:
point of correction, payment of tithes is not by compulsion.... It is not everyone dah pay tithes dah wil make heaven, it is not everyone dah does not pay tithes will make hell.....

It's by compulsion cos you're compelled to pay 10% of ur income. Try to use ur head somtimes, god gave u a veIn for a reason

NPComplete:
I like this pastors sha. He knows he can't refute what Freeze said so he agreed with it and disagreed with it at the same time. Because he needs that tithe. The thriving pastor even compared himself to a oLeviteYeye

U dey mind d fraudster? Irate Huuow can u b accurate n b in error? And whi made pastors levites? Criminal!

holuwajobar:
Thank God he sed giving tithes is out of love.... So nobody is forcing anyone to pay... Opari

How can it b out of love when it is by compulsion? It can only b out of love if its free will giving

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Zeeeeeeek:
Pep pls take out Stirling n bring in Jesus

Aha, on top this 1 arsenal dey?, u want jesus to perform miracle turn scores to 10-0! U no even say make pep bring in paul or peter, guy you're wicked!

where can i stream d match plz?

zynzyn:
How are u sure he didn't and she called his bluff??!

Truth is, the day a wife decides to dress like this outside the home, the guy should know what to xpect!!

She's on a revenge mission to get her side guy just like dakolo get side chick.

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EDIT: so I just read the old article you included in the link, i change my mind. with more insight to this:
OP, I dont mean this in an insensitive way, your wife has some deep issues and must have suffered some intense psychological trauma to cause her to feel a lot of bitterness and act out in sadism when angry, the knife, the fork, hitting you with a shoe on your head and not stopping when you didnt even react!! this last one is a huge red light, something is really wrong with your wife, she loves to inflict pain and if her personality is as contrast as u say, that everyone thinks she's this sweet girl, then whatever is wrong with her runs really deep, it's not normal at all to keep hitting a person with a shoe on the head when they're not fighting back, she wants to hurt you, she wants u to feel pain.

I'm honestly convinced your wife has suffered sexual assault at an early age that led to a break in psyche, she's mastered suppressing her feelings, her nice girl act is not an 'act', she's actually that nice. but when she's angry, all the bitterness buried beneath the surface emerges and she finally deals with all the buried emotion in its magnitude, it overwhelms her and she wants to act out to hit something or punch a wall etc. when she's alone and unhappy, even when she lived with her parents, u really dont want to see/imagine what your wife does to and says to herself, this anger she shows you, she's lived with it for a long time, she's been her own victim till now when she made u her victim. there is nothing she has done to you that she hasn't done to herself times hundred.

if you choose to for better for worse it, find a psychiatrist or psychologist and go with your wife for counselling, your wife, with or without you will never change till she finally begins to work on whatever buried bitterness she's had to live with for years. try to get help together as a family or get a divorce if u would rather not go through it. it's really that simple, your wife will live with whatever has happened for the rest of her life but how she manages the accompanying emotions, her anger and abandonment issues can all be taken care of with a good psychologist and emotional support on your part. educate yourself on the topic of sexual assault and learn the necessary sensitivity training and triggers. counselling will teach you all this.

no, i'm not thinking too far, your wife ticks a lot of boxes:
-extra charming cos of distorted/low self image and need to be accepted
-her over-religiousness is for closure that she needs and like u said her prayers are always for her god to attack ppl for her. even her relationship with god isnt healthy, it's a coping mechanism. the idea of a protector that will attack on her behalf.
-she talks from 12am to 4am alone when you're asleep, OP, your wife is full of a lot of buried emotion, she really wants to talk to someone about something.
-despite being a nice girl, before you married her, she had no friends
-she's very quiet, hardly finishes her words (withdrawn personality, mastered suppresion)

you should never have raised your hands to hit this woman, when she froze for 5 minutes, it's not that she was thinking she overstepped her boundaries, she was actually coming back to her senses, when your wife gets angry, she loses her mind and forgets who she's dealing with. even worse when the person who angered her is male, she reacts with more venom cos subconsciously he represents her aggressor and she wants to hurt him to make him feel pain. she probably has conversations with herself and imagines herself confronting her abuser and being able to hurt him back and make him regret his actions and cries alone cos it's only in her imagination that she can deal with him. when a man makes her defensive in her personal space, she attacks. till u actually hit her, u just represented something that she has bad blood with and now you've added yourself to the list of men that have ruined her.
she has stopped hitting u cos she has buried the incident of the slaps too but OP, the same place it's buried is the same place her demons she's battling are buried, she wont touch you but when her bitterness surfaces when she's alone, this time you're one of her enemies. the resentment is growing and when she sees u, she's filled with such bitterness she shoves u. if u do not intend to fix this marriage OP, walk away NOW. a lot of bitterness is brewing in this woman and if you add yourself to the list, we will read about u in the news the day this woman snaps. the same way u never saw her eyes so red the day she yelled, u will never believe she has it in her to go the extent she'll go, your wife will surprise you.

nigeria does not have a good support system for ppl who have had to deal with the trauma of sexual assault, society takes it lightly too but this is 2017, ppl should educate themselves on this, when we read here everyday '6 yr old girl raped in lagos by 43 yr old man', that girl is someone's future wife and she will NOT just be like everybody else, the scars of her trauma will show one way or another and she'll need extra sensitivity cos she's a "special" case. your wife is not a naturally aggressive person, that i can tell u and it's sad that another human being created this monster in her. OP, this is really not your battle, it's not you she wants to fight, you did not give her all the bitterness she's carrying, so let the slaps u gave her be the last, you wife is a very very bitter scorned woman whose hurt has taken years and years to germinate, the person who hurt her isnt dealing with it, u are. if u add to her bitterness and it gets too much, the person who created 99% of this mess will not be the scapegoat, again it will be u. i haven't dealt with sexual assault personally or with a family member but i have met closely with some of the victims and the effects of sexual assault are too underestimated. ppl should be killed for damaging another human like that.

if u do choose to save your marriage:
apologize profusely for hitting her and become super sweet, if u choose to undo this mess, u have to be ready, sensitive, patient, very educated about this issue and strong for the both of u. if u choose to walk this path, u will watch her fall apart and u have to be ready to help her reassemble.
don't let her hit you, hold her hands and keep holding it and talking to her till she calms down. your wife is actually a very sweet person, the person you knew her to be when u married her exists, just buried under layers of bitterness. i dont blame u at all for hitting her, there's nothing illogical in hitting someone who came at u with a knife, i can understand why u snapped but let it be the last time. your wife wants to talk to you, listen to her, she talks when you sleep, when you leave she follows you, it's annoying but it's her subconscious, she really wants to reach out. listen to your wife! make out time and let her rant, she will talk about so many things, no matter how messed up it sounds, keep listening. then talk back about whatever and if she interrupts and tries to talk, let her talk, just listen. u can stop the midnight talks by changing it to day time. stop sleeping in your sitting room, move back to your bed.
i can imagine how strong a person u were to endure all the emotional & physical abuse. and no, slapping her back was not abuse, u defended yourself full stop! dont feel sorry for yourself, just do what u have to do: stay & do the work to mend this if u can or leave if u cant.
u have to accept that your wife has issues that cause aggression when it flares. in time, u will also notice she's protective of children or animals or things she pictures as defenseless, it'll show in her mothering, not wanting your kid to go out, being too clingy to the child, convinced the big bad world is out to get her child, all that u will both work through in due time. once you can get your wife to show you the dark place she's in, it'll not be her safe place anymore, she can't hide there anymore, whatever comes to surface will be dealt with by both of you and u will finally live with the smiling smiling girl u married. good luck OP[/size][/quote]Can't believe I read thru such a long read, but it was worth it, are u a psychologist?
Op plz listen to this advice, but if she's proving stubborn abeg run 4 ur life!