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CareerRe: My Boss Is Pushing Me To His Wife by chetaraph(m): 12:16pm On Aug 27, 2015
Happiness87:
lol, do I look like lia Mohammed
Obviously not. But u sounded more like him
CareerRe: My Boss Is Pushing Me To His Wife by chetaraph(m): 12:02pm On Aug 27, 2015
Happiness87:
hmmmm, did you read where I said that even among the tribes that they are Christians, did you also read that the best thing to do is background checks, stop behaving like Nigerian press, who enjoys misintepretation
Lollll, dats after u ve stopped behaving like d same press dat spreads propaganda!
CareerRe: My Boss Is Pushing Me To His Wife by chetaraph(m): 11:46am On Aug 27, 2015
Happiness87:
did you read my post upside down, did I mention any tribe,


only tried to reduce her fears, if you didn't get my point
Y didn't mention any tribe neither did I. But u obviously know what were doing.
CareerRe: My Boss Is Pushing Me To His Wife by chetaraph(m): 11:33am On Aug 27, 2015
Happiness87:
hahahahahahaha, the said rituals are peculiar to a certain tribe which is just about 30million out of 170million, besides of the 30million there are genuine Christians, meaning fetish ones could be just about 5million. The most important thing is to look before you leap.
All one needs to do is to avoid such tribe and maybe check family backgrounds before you eventually settle.
Don't be too quick to paint sum1 black. It's not peculiar to only one tribe. At a time, fetishism was in vogue, all tribe practised it. But now it's no longer in vogue,.
Except in the nollywood movies dat are much available to d south Africans and maybe u too.

I haven't met a ritualist and I dnt think u have met or encountered any from any tribe.

Stop spreading negativity about a tribe. We all got our negative history!
PoliticsRe: Nigerians Will Pelt Jonathan With Stones If…- Oshiomhole by chetaraph(m): 8:06am On Aug 23, 2015
agabusta:
Therefore no matter the evidence you bring to show that indeed GEJ looted the country dry and only few benefited from his governance, they will never believe you. Infact they will even abuse you and threaten violence.

It's not their fault, they are still in a trauma, they are in a semi-insane state.
Wch evidence are u talking about? Mouth evidence or Wat? Dnt just tell us dat he stole d money, show us dat he really stole d money and how he stole d money.
Now that is real evidence. Not talk from morning till dawn like it's still campaign era. Same tin dey were saying during campaign.
PoliticsRe: Nigerians Will Pelt Jonathan With Stones If…- Oshiomhole by chetaraph(m): 8:01am On Aug 23, 2015
ladyF:
Hmmmm this is serious. These guys must've milked the nation dry! shocked

It's [size=20pt]LadyF[/size] again grin grin grin
With mouth evidence! I can easily paint my enemy black since we share common interest!

Like saying, lady F is a witch dat doesn't sleep at nite... dats aw she manage to always be FTC. now sum pple like u will blive dat.

Dnt blive all these bigots.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Graduate Vacancies At Guinness Nigeria by chetaraph(m): 12:16pm On Aug 21, 2015
VolturiLord:
I don't think peeps who haven't gotten the regret mail should give up just yet. I'm in the same shoes and my feedback was okay also. It's apparent they are inviting for the Digital Interview in batches, so I'm sure very soon we will get our own invite...... or regret mail and know our fate.

Cheers.
I think Application is still on. I applied 2 days ago, though it wasn't sectioned into sales, finance etc. Just graduate trainee.
I got the assessment link, concluded both assessments early hours of today.

So I think u guys that haven't received sumtin shouldn't give up!
SportsRe: Mercy Akide-udoh Shows Off Swimwear Body by chetaraph(m): 9:55am On Aug 20, 2015
Dis lady ball dat year sha.... I think wearing Jersey 8 behind perpetual nkwocha. Dat era of falcons!
PoliticsRe: Senators Concerned As Buhari Overlooks Law In AMCON Appointments by chetaraph(m): 9:11am On Aug 20, 2015
Where is d so called press in all dis buhaha! They have been so calm and quiet even in d face of so many shortcomings of PMB! Maybe not as much as those of GEJ but with the way they went viral with the sole event that GEJ failed to cancel an appointment in sokoto (I think) a day after the abduction of chibok gals.... U wouldn't have expected such calmness.

Nobody understood the meaning of mistake with GEJ


Like sum1 sed, if it were to be GEJ, he would have been served an impeachment notice. Plus d fact of not having a single minister months after election! Infact GEJ would have been charged for "TREASON".



Equity and fairness... Missing since 1960!
Jokes EtcRe: When Buhari Says He Will Only Probe Jonathan's Government (hilarious Photo) by chetaraph(m): 7:39am On Aug 19, 2015
Chinaimporter:
Typical yoruba man...very shameless old man...i dont know why these people are that stupid and smelly. May God never corrupt the genes of any of my progeny till infinity with even a drop of yoruba blood.
I will rather dine with pigs than have a yoruba person sit at my table.
They betrayed themselves to the fulanis at illorin. Betrayed the oyo and benin empires to the british, sold their fellows africans as slaves to the Portuguese,the abobaku, a custodian of yoruba culture betrayed the oni of ife after his death, betrayed abiola on june 12, poisoned abiola for money, tried to betray abacha but he dealt with oladipo diya, betrayed ojukwu during the biafran war.
These people are the scum of the earth and should be exposed for all to see...the younger generation must not be allowed to be like their horrible fathers but blood is thicker than water
Superiority complex. .. Our biggest problem as a nation! We are so quick to point out the flaws of others neglecting the fact that we have ours too. U luk inward and tell urself ur flaws too!
PoliticsRe: If Igbos Are Butchered Again, Nigeria Will Break; Fani- Kayode Warns by chetaraph(m): 11:11pm On Aug 18, 2015
Built2last:
The hatred people have for Fani kayode and PDP will not allow them read what he said in the above article and the sense in it.

I know Junaid will not make such senseless statement during GEJs time but now that PMB holds sway. we should expect that.


below is my earlier assertions on realisation of Biafra and eventual breakaway of Igbos from Nigeria. If Igbos want to go. whats the big deal. all these attention and palpable fear of Nigerians on Igbos is becoming too much. haba. If they want to go, lets free them peacefully. all these Igbo and Biafra news is becoming boring.


I think that the governments move against Radio Biafra is coming rather late and giving it all the publicity they never had.

I am not one of those who fool themselves that Biafra will not be realised one day. History has it that those who have been held as slaves or third class citizens always gain freedom. The Jews gained freedom from the Egyptians after 450years, Indian got independence from Britain, 1948 the Jews stubbornly carved out a state for themselves in the middle east. The black Americans now vote and contest elections. The scotish will break away from the British someday..its just time. The followership of Radio Biafra is crazy and if the agitation has not died 40years after the war. It wont die again. White Americans told black Americans that they will remain in perpetual servitude. Today history and time has proven those white Americans wrong.
Pro-Biafran groups are doing all they can to gain global world leaders attention and trust me they are gaining momentum. The last Biafra day celebration accross the globe gives credence to this. BBC, New York Times and Jerusalem Post has reported in Biafra in the last one week. Thats a reach out if you ask me.

Here is my proposition.
I will not tell Igbos to go or stay. It is their right to choose what they want. As a matter of fact the push by many people for them not to go is giving the struggle much more popularity.
There was war in Nigeria years back with a monumental pogrom that left many Igbos dead. Nigerian state must not pretend all is well and keep moving ahead.
There is need for a reconciliation and assimilation meeting between the state of Nigeria abd Igbo leaders.
Ask your Igbo friends at work if they truly will desire to leave Nigeria. 8 out of ten will say yes. The more reason i think the agitation for Biafra actualisation will not die.

The Niger Deltans who were cold enemies with Igbos are gradually aligning and having clandestine meetings.
Veraciously clamping down on Igbo Biafra will not work. The support and sponaorship is high and we must not pretend that the inventive power of the Igbos will not help them in this Radio war. How about NBC licensing Radio Biafra with a Different name like Radio Igbo or something else.

I write this because i have the deepest concern for what will become of our great country Nigeria in the coming years if its not well managed.
I am married to an industrous Igbo woman who has given me 2 sons. I asked her on bed last night if she supports realisation of Biafra, she said she will sponsor yhe agitation when the time is right. My wife has never mentioned Biafra but its deeply seated in her. We are both highly educated and understand rights. She and my two sons are all i've got. The Irish marry the English, yet the Irish is planning to secede, so, don't crucify me.

There is need for a wound healing meeting now before its too late. We will appear delusional if we think that the Nigeria of 1960 is same today.
History has a way of proving those who say things are impossible wrong. Some people said PMB will never become Nigeria's president again. They said he was old, he is a dictator and all sorts. Today he is the president. Biafra will be realised if Igbos are not fully re-integrated into Nigerian politics and all the hate against them stamped out.
I duff my hat for u. U sed it all. D solution is d marginalisation should stop. Integration shud be embraced and all this noise of biafra will stop. Yoruba, hausa... Show sum love to dese people if truly we are one .
RomanceRe: Ladies, Can You Date A Guy That Drives This Type Of Car? by chetaraph(m): 11:24pm On Aug 17, 2015
[quote author=agarawu23 post=37046669]what else do I need to to know about you when your dp says "I have the pusssy, so I make the rules" ? undecided[/quote
]





Guy... U must be an undertaker.... Cos u jux buried dat gal six feet below. U bad gan!
RomanceRe: A Lady Going Out On A Date With Another Guy Few Days To Her Wedding by chetaraph(m): 1:54pm On Aug 17, 2015
agarawu23:
still on my point, The lady left her conversations because her mind is clean. we are only reading the guys part of the story without hearing from the lady so we can't just jump into conclusion.

she told the DJ the wedding is for her friend doesn't mean she wants something from him, she might just wanna be free to beat the charging price and moreover that's not q big deal on the issue on ground. I may have money to buy a car and when I get to the dealer, I can tell him I am buying it for my friend and he doesn't have much money cos I am the one lending him just to get get it at cheaper price.

She isn't picking the dj's call in the guy present doesn't mean things are going on between them. We are talking about marriage and not bf and gf issue o because I still blv the guy has a lot of choices before he chooses to end up with the girl. If he doesn't trust the girl, he won't have wanna marry her so therefore he should hold his trust and tell the lady to end all conversation with DJ.

The guy way know pure cos he has already made up his mind flirting around after marriage that means even if this issue didn't come up, he will still fvck around.

we shouldnt trust the guy that much jare. though ladies aren't to be trusted too but this issue isn't what "WE" think
Lemme agree that I oblige to agree with ur arguments


Now what do u have to say about going on a date with deir proposed dj without d fiancée knowledge before and after d date? Why wait for her to b confronted about the date before she open up.

Now that is enuf to nail the gal for having another motive. She is a big FLIRT.

and the guy is a big COWARD with that motive he got in his skull after wedding d gal. It seems dere is a financial benefit attached to marrying d gal cos I dnt see any reason insisting on marrying the gal other than that
CareerRe: NNPC Retires 1000 Staff by chetaraph(m): 11:07am On Aug 17, 2015
Eruditor:
Laudate,

I am not sure you read the article well. Or maybe your primordial dislike for his background or ideologies is tainting your understanding of some of his actions.

The article said 2 things.

1. About 800 of the 1000 were already on their way out due to AGE and years of service.

2. That he is not responsible for the lower cadre retrenchments. He only handled that of the GEDs, GGMs and GMs and he has delegated the responsibility of weeding out redundant, unproductive, overaged and overworked staff to those below him.

It is also important to take note that there is an ongoing recruitment process for EH and GT that I am sure will be used to replace some of the redundant workers in due time.
which one b EH and GT jare. And aw can I get info about the ongoing recruitment. Looking at d brighter side of the story.
CrimeRe: Man Narrates How His Ex Poured Hot Water On Him On (graphic Pics) by chetaraph(m): 8:37am On Aug 11, 2015
bravesoul247:
you are one of the few ladies here that have shown a high sense of reasoning and its good. Most of them here are just saying trash. Imagine! Look at his body na and some people here are talking anyhow.
Sorry broda. Dat was so bad!
But on a second thought, ur story is not objective. U jux generalised, every gal is stupid, every gal is stubborn, every gal have d tendency of being self destructive. Dose are ur reasons for breaking up ur 24months relationship with her. Ur actions cannot be justified unless u b objective with her shortcomings.

What were u thinking when the relationship was just 3 months, 6 months or 1 year? What blinded ur sight that it had to take u a f**ckiing 2years (24 months) to realise ure not compatible.

Until we hear from both side before ur action or hers can be justified!
U f**cked a gal for 24 months maybe every day or 3x a week or once a week, u made her acquainted to ur frnds and family and only GOD knows aw many abortions she had committed for u! Now tell me which pain is greater than that?

All u guys saying the gal is wicked jux with this weak story, jux take 2 minutes and put the gel as ur sister and she invested her punnany for 24 months, countless rounds of sex, promise of love with the hope of marriage and maybe several abortions.. I bet u will pound that guy to death with every given chance.



If u want to b a player be a player and if u want to get serious be serious and be quick to draw d line when ure getting Wat u dnt want instead of giving urself false hope of her changing all for u to be enjoying free punany.


The truth is u mite deserve more Dan Wat u got pending on d gals story.. D only reason I can go on and date a gal for 2years den turn around and break up with her is if she is guilty of UNFAITHFULNESS


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Yes UNFAITHFULNESS. u never mentioned it in ur write up.
sonofananimal:
YOU ARE ALSO PROMOTING VIOLENCE TOO!!
LIFE IS FVCKED UP!! YOU MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE,
NOTHING IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR OR EVEN USING FORCE TO GET IT.
Sorry broda. Dat was so bad!
But on a second thought, ur story is not objective. U jux generalised, every gal is stupid, every gal is stubborn, every gal have d tendency of being self destructive. Dose are ur reasons for breaking up ur 24months relationship with her. Ur actions cannot be justified unless u b objective with her shortcomings.

What were u thinking when the relationship was just 3 months, 6 months or 1 year? What blinded ur sight that it had to take u a f**ckiing 2years (24 months) to realise ure not compatible.

Until we hear from both side before ur action or hers can be justified!
U f**cked a gal for 24 months maybe every day or 3x a week or once a week, u made her acquainted to ur frnds and family and only GOD knows aw many abortions she had committed for u! Now tell me which pain is greater than that?

All u guys saying the gal is wicked jux with this weak story, jux take 2 minutes and put the gel as ur sister and she invested her punnany for 24 months, countless rounds of sex, promise of love with the hope of marriage and maybe several abortions.. I bet u will pound that guy to death with every given chance.



If u want to b a player be a player and if u want to get serious be serious and be quick to draw d line when ure getting Wat u dnt want instead of giving urself false hope of her changing all for u to be enjoying free punany.


The truth is u mite deserve more Dan Wat u got pending on d gals story.. D only reason I can go on and date a gal for 2years den turn around and break up with her is if she is guilty of UNFAITHFULNESS


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Yes UNFAITHFULNESS. u never mentioned it in ur write up.
PoliticsRe: Forged Senate Rule: ‘it’s Not Late For Saraki To Resign’ by chetaraph(m): 10:27pm On Aug 06, 2015
Everybody calling for saraki's head like he is d only corrupt senator in apc. Others are all Saints unlike saraki and his pdp colleagues. Even the honourable who cannot boast of any achievement /project during his tenure is yawning trash.
Politics is a game of outsmarting ur opponents, if u can't win don't come here and appeal to our emotion like ure better off, like u care about our welfare when all u care about is ur pocket! You all nid to be assassinated to clear the bad blood. Until then kip playing ur game and leave our emotions alone.

For those calling for his resignation, SARAKI is as good as any other senator you prefer to b there cos they are all looters nd hypocrites. The good ones will never b allowed to b even primary officers talk more of Senate president.

Those insulting others at the mention of one politician's name like it's their fathers name .... I want to know if any of these is ur surname :TINUBU or JONATHAN. Shior !
PoliticsRe: Forged Senate Rule: ‘it’s Not Late For Saraki To Resign’ by chetaraph(m): 10:21pm On Aug 06, 2015
Everybody calling for saraki's head like he is d only corrupt senator in apc. Others are all Saints unlike saraki and his pdp colleagues. Even the honourable who cannot boast of any achievement /project during his tenure is yawning trash.
For those calling for his resignation, SARAKI is as good as any other senator you prefer to b there cos they are all looters nd hypocrites. The good ones will never b allowed to b even primary officers talk more of Senate president.

Those insulting others at the mention of one politician's name like it's their fathers name .... I want to know if any of these is ur surname :TINUBU or JONATHAN. Shior !
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Nairaland Fantasy Premier League 2015/2016 by chetaraph(m):
mukina2:
Ok Guys the new FPL season > http://fantasy.premierleague.com/



The Main league was renewed . .all you have to do is renew your leagues . . but just in case . .the main league code is 40553-12061

We have screen shots from last season . . .. for FA cup, Carling Cup and Conference .. they will be given out by standings only.

Please let us know your team names from last year .. no 419 here grin

For those who removed their team, you will not be given FA cup codes .
The h2h code, is limited to 30 per each league.

If i didnt give you the code and find your team dia, i will 'comot' am cool grin

Last Season > https://www.nairaland.com/1824025/nairaland-fantasy-premier-league-2014
Please send me the code @rosejewel007@gmail.com
Team name spectroraph fc
PoliticsRe: Niger Delta Youths To Shut Down NLNG Facilities Over Planned Lagos Shipyard. by chetaraph(m): 2:03pm On Aug 05, 2015
agabusta:
Correction, NLNG is one of the beneficiaries, and not the sole beneficiary. The ship yard will not service only the oil and gas sector. Why do u guys find it so hard to see that. Infact it will service the entire West African shipping industry.
Correction taken! But still siting such a project in other regions that has d capacity of offshore business is not a bad idea.
PoliticsRe: Niger Delta Youths To Shut Down NLNG Facilities Over Planned Lagos Shipyard. by chetaraph(m): 11:17am On Aug 05, 2015
agabusta:
To many illiterates on this forum. NLNG has consistently informed the public that the project is not theirs but that of the private sector but dem no go hear.

Samsung and Hyundai heavy industries are the main proponents of the project.
The issue is not who owns d project but who d beneficiary is. NLNG is the beneficiary of the project hence the ND oil is the primary resources. Let Samsung nd hyundai set up their project in the ND region, it won't stop all business. It's oil, people will cum from wherever they are to do oil business irrespective of the location. Check out diamond business na. Meanwhile, ure also spreading development across the nation. Not just Lagos, Lagos, Abuja Abuja,.
CelebritiesRe: K-Cee Stuns In Red Suit, Performs At A Wedding In Jos (Photos) by chetaraph(m): 8:01am On Aug 02, 2015
laserjet:
Omo ibo radarada....

No dress sense whatsoever! huh
Y d tribal hate.?
for ur mind na shakiti bobo get dress sense die! *

Anu npam!
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Visits Republic Of Benin To Discuss Boko Haram [PHOTOS] by chetaraph(m): 4:49pm On Aug 01, 2015
omasiagu:
May he never turns alife!

As rightly put by a commenter, his jet should be bombed to dust and buhari's body should be scatered beyound repairs.

It will make my day.

You can ban me if you like.
Beware of folks like this! Indeed the heart of Man is desperately wicked!
EducationRe: Unilag PG 2015/2016 ADMISSION DISCUSSION HERE by chetaraph(m): 12:41pm On Jul 27, 2015
pooljazy:
To all Pharmaceutical chemistry aspirant i am also an aspirant but i have the past question i dont know how to get it across to you guys
Bros pls am interested in dat pharm chem. Contact me on 07064694254 and let's liase on we d pq can be circulated. Thanks
CareerRe: Having Masters Vs Having Professional Certifications by chetaraph(m): 4:24am On Jul 27, 2015
Raikishi:
Get a master's degree first.

Bachelors are a dime a dozen nowadays and masters are more coveted. Let me explain

1. Army, Police, Civil Defence etc will place you a rank higher than your peers with a bachelors degree

2. Large corporations reduce the years of experience required for entry if you have a masters

3. Other rule oriented organizations increase the max age for applicants with a masters

PLUS: You can always get certifications even whilst working while you can not do same with a masters.

MY CANDID ADVICE --------> EAT THAT FROG NOW.
Hi, sum1 wit a science background (bch) wanting to do a masters in MBA, What do you make of dat In terms versatility and Wat are the likely consequences. With high regards with the trend in our labour market today. Thanks
CareerRe: Having Masters Vs Having Professional Certifications by chetaraph(m): 4:22am On Jul 27, 2015
niggi4life:
It depends on the field you are, For I.T professionals i would say getting Certifications are just the Bomb, for those in the commercial section i would say getting an MBA and not just MSc should be the Bomb!
Nowadays MSc is just like a normal BSc, Most companies want to know if you are really certified in your field
Hi, sum1 wit a science background (bch) wanting to do a masters in MBA, What do you make of dat In terms versatility and Wat are the likely consequences. With high regards with the trend in our labour market today. Thanks
PoliticsRe: 13 Ex-Militants Dismissed From Lufthansa Pilot Training School In Germany by chetaraph(m): 8:29pm On Jul 24, 2015
hustla:

Trying to explain how stupid you are and how useless the efforts you have put into making an example that is equally as useless as you is akin to talking to a wall to change its position by itself
Dry imbe cile!
PoliticsRe: 13 Ex-Militants Dismissed From Lufthansa Pilot Training School In Germany by chetaraph(m): 5:50pm On Jul 24, 2015
bros856:
Ask Amnesty Programmers How many Akwa Ibom people are among those sent abroad for training then you will know the reason why Buhari has refuse to pay their school fees. Why are some poor parent in the same Niger Delta region suffering to pay children school fees while Jonathan hijack the Amnesty Programme for only the Ijaws as if they are the only tribe in Niger Delta,so all this I know the present Government will not be happy to continue with. The Amnesty Programme favours only the Ijaws and if you go through the Amnesty training list you will realise that most of those names where never militants. They just saw an opportunity and people related to the programme brought in their children to be trained for free by Nigerian Government while we work the street struggling to train our children as if we are not free Niger Delta. The Programme for me is a complete Cheat to humanity, That is why the only set of people protesting right now will be from Bayelsa as the major beneficiaries.
. There might be a little truth in ur argument dat the program is not totally free from nepotism . But remember the militant insurgency den was predominantly active in bayelsa and some parts of delta and rivers state. I don't think we had issues of militanct in akwa ibom or cross rivers or Edo state. And off course the training was only given to those who were regarded to as militants not every one in ND.
PoliticsRe: 13 Ex-Militants Dismissed From Lufthansa Pilot Training School In Germany by chetaraph(m): 5:38pm On Jul 24, 2015
hustla:
Security wise it is not even a wise Move
These same militants can be trained into something nefarious. I think it was mentioned sometime that Osama used to be in the CIA, and must have spent time gathering information and 'learning on the job'

In the future these militants can be used for aerial bombing and stuff like that

Jonathan is one of the stupidest Presidents we have ever had
Hustla my real guy! U get sense sha.... Walahi ur reasoning be like cossy orjiakor's bobby!
Tmao when ur son goes rogue pull a gun and put a bullet in his motherf**king brain cos if u try to salvage his soul by giving him a reasonable purpose to invest his potentials in, he might jux slit ur throat in the future while sleeping after u must av misbehaved!

My guy my guy.... My real guy.
PoliticsRe: 13 Ex-Militants Dismissed From Lufthansa Pilot Training School In Germany by chetaraph(m): 5:28pm On Jul 24, 2015
Demdem2:
Fool, under the leadership of jonah-daft the NE was destroyed all because of his foolishness in governance.
NE destroyed themselves not anybody.. Fighting for no just cause is self infliction! Moreover, most of the northerners encourage the insurgency when it started.. Singing Western Education Is Bad. Now it has gotten out of hand and they wanna put d blame on sum1
PoliticsRe: Arunma Oteh Appointed World Bank VP by chetaraph(m): 3:20pm On Jul 24, 2015
Congrats Oteh.
Dis SEC sha.... Baba God bless ur boi with a job offer with SEC na
PoliticsRe: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by chetaraph(m): 2:37pm On Jul 24, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
by then, we must have clean d mess, d saTANist left behind, so that d new ministers will start in a clean slate
Clean d mess indeed!

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