Jokerman: Also James Rodriguez or Thomas Muller should hav been 2014 WC best player too, Buh since neither Kane nor any of those two got to the finals, then it holds no water
if Kane got to the WC finals , would u give him the best player award ?
PORNeliusHUBson: 2014 World Cup: Argentina 1-0 Belgium (Higuain),(QF) Argentina 0-0 Netherlands (PEN 4-2), (sF) STATS: Messi-4 goals,1 assist (0 goals in KO) Higuain-1 goal (QF) Di Maria-1 goal (RO16) In this World Cup,Messi tbh was good but you can see who's the reason to play further from group stage. --------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- 2015 Copa America: Argentina 1-0 Uruguay (Aguero),(GS) Argentina 1-0 Jamaica (Higuain),(GS) Argentina 0-0 Colombia (PEN 5-4),(QF) Argentina 6-1 Paraguay (5 diff. goalscorers),(SF) STATS: Aguero-3 goals Di Maria-2 goals,2 assists Higuain-2 goals Messi-1 goal,3 assists Messi carried the team huh? --------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- 2016 Copa America: Argentina 2-1 Chile (Di Maria,Banega),( Messi didn't play),(GS) Argentina 5-0 Panama (Messix3,+2 goals),(GS) Argentina 3-0 Bolivia (Messi didnt score,but assisted),(GS) Argentina 4-1 Venezuela (Higuainx2,Messi,Lamela),(QF) Argentina 4-0 USA (Higuainx2,Mess i,Lavezzi),(SF) STATS: Messi-5 goals,4 assists Higuain-4 goals,1 assist Lavezzi,Lamela-2 goals+assist Aguero,Banega,Di Maria,Otamendi-1 goal+assist Here,Messi was the best for Argentina clearly but you can see how others stepped up too. --------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- CONCLUSION: If teammates didn't step up,Messi wouldn't have reached those finals.This holds true for Ronaldo also.If teammates didn't step up,he too couldn't have reached the final and won.No one says Ronaldo single- handedly won it for Portugal too. But we all know who the goat is! Someone who delivers when it matters. Not someone who makes others receive blame for his faults. Coutinho is blamed for last season CL Knockout. Higuain is blamed for world cup final defeat. If they had won it, person no go hear word. Messi did dis, he did that. Lmao. Argue with a liverpool fan not me.
did u watch Copa America 2015? Lwkmd . U de use stats ? Kane should be wc2018 best player then .
TheGoodJoe: I wonder how you will believe a footballer who has been best in the World Five times and has been among the top three for over a decade can not pass ball well. Beats my imagination.
and I asked u , do u know what a false 9 mean . What u just said doesn't make sense , making fancy passes doesn't make u a good passer , Ronaldo is an average passer of the ball , he's not that great and he is not that bad . Call it hatting but that's fact . Aguero , Suarez , lewandowski would work in a false nine better than Ronaldo , u need to know what a false nine does first , I don't think u do know .
TheGoodJoe: I am expecting nothing less than fireworks. I always believed CR7 would do better playing as a false 9 in a tiki taka system. With Sarri's work converting Dres Mertens to a false 9 and Mertens excelling, I expect CR7 to shine like a million stars.
what is this one saying , lwkmd . What is a false nine? Ronaldo doesn't even mark , can Ronaldo pass the ball really well? How many false nine have u seen ?
Beverlyjean: When Portugal won the Euros ...did they have a striker?? Did they have a good midfielder... What's the difference between these Argentine midfielders and the Portuguese midfielders at the Euros
Quaresma... Fluntuates and can't completes full time Moutinho... Average ( never played for a top club) João mario... Dead Vierinha.... Unknown Andre Gomez ... Dead Renato Sanchez... Inexperienced Rafa silver... unknown William cavarlho ... average Danilo...average Andre silver... Dead
Those are the names of the entire midfielders Portugal used in the euros to win it... Not one played for a top European club... All were in Portuguese league , apart from moutinho that was in the French league and quaresma that was in the Turkish league... The only two superstar in the team was Ronaldo and there was Nani that never hit it big and Pepe that is red card prone...
But they still won the euros that is the second most difficult cup to win after the world cup... And remember,they had never won anything in their history... But u guys are there making excuses for Messi....
on the intl stage , I don't think name matters that much . Take for example Switzerland and Denmark. Greece won the euros in 2004 without big a** players , I am not trying to give excuses for Messi , he's one of the guys on the team and should be blamed also . But , Argentina wouldn't be talking about winning sh*t without Messi . He literally took them to their last WC , they have been to four finals and lost all four of them . They couldn't even win one . Portugal went to 1 final and won cos Ronaldo had competent team mates who play well without him .
PS Ronaldo plays as a striker for Portugal FYI I think they use more of a 442 then .
martineverest: nollywood is full of mediocres.... somebody with no background in acting is already acting
I miss the days of Liz Benson,Olu Jacobs etc
like they don't even go to acting schools , no degree or something . I can't remember when last I watched a Nigerian movie , like in the past 7 years , I have only seen like 3 and they were mediocre .
safarigirl: I bet you wish Messi had one of those glorified trophies for friendly games. You know, those things still count as an INTERNATIONAL Trophy, because it was won in a group of INTERNATIONAL friendlies. South America should organise one of those, maybe Messi will finally win something......if he doesn't bottle the finals of course
If Messi retires today he will still be the best player of his generation and those who don't see it knows nothing about football . Ronaldo is a great player but he's overrated when compared to Messi , let's take away their trophies cos those are won by teams . One of them scores , while the other scores , dribbles , creates lots of chances , is the best passer of the ball ever , is a fk specialist of late , and assists his teammates always . Who would u take . Be sincere .
PS :according to uefa , those were friendly games .
safarigirl: All this long epistle, to defend that knce again, Messi cannot do enough.
Is it not his mates scoring hat tricks to move their teams to finals?
Who are people to blame, if not Messi? When Nigeria plays badly, is it not Mikel chopping the blame 90% of the time? It is a given, that those who put on the captain bands, must collect the glory and the condemnation for their teams' performances.
Let us just accept that some people will never win certain trophies, no matter how many tournaments they play. Messi is one of them, he was great, but not great enough for Argentina
if Messi plays from the middle , he won't have anyone to pass to . If he stays upfront like Ronaldo does, he won't get the ball in the right places . So tell me , what would be your solution to this problem?
GoTV: In life you can't have it all. Life itself is full of up and down moments. As great as Ronaldo Delima who won many trophies with Brazil including World Cup, he couldn't win the Champions League which players like Daniel sturridge won recently despite playing for almighty Madrid filled with super stars. Jay Jay okocha as good as he was never won the African footballer of the year award which fringe players like Adebayor and El-hadji diouf won.
Many of you trolling messi's predicament with Argentina are doing so due to high expectations and unimaginable standards he sets for himself. He's a victim of his brilliance no doubt but never forget winning trophies is not exclusive to a player effort. Football is a team sport but i wonder why you all blame messi when he has been unfortunate to be with paper weight team mates. An injured Ronaldo won the Euro cup due to the fighting spirit of the Portuguese players (credit to Eder) after Ronaldo led them to finals with his goals. Same as the recent nations league which guedes delivered and Bernardo silva emerged best player.
Ronaldo is the arrow head of the Portuguese team no doubt but his team mates deliver when he's not in charge, unlike messi whose team mates are big names on paper but play terribly despite his efforts to inspire them to glory. Higuain missed 3 decisive one on one chances against Germany in 2014 finals before gotze scored, chances fringe players like guedes and Eder converted to win Ronaldo the international trophies you all troll about. Everything in Argentine football must not be delivered by messi. It's a games of 11 players so why place the burden on only messi as if Portugal fields only Ronaldo against other teams? When Elder and guedes scored to win the trophy when it mattered most, you guys ignore their efforts and give all praises to Ronaldo. When Argentina team plays badly even if defenders scored own goal all blame goes to messi. Haba guys, what level of hypocrisy?
This is not to defend or absorb messi of his involvement in the failure of the Argentine's team to win a major afterall he missed a penalty against chile in previous Copa finals, but i think we are too harsh on him with unreasonable criticisms.
I hope Majority of you guys criticizing him have achieved all you desire in life? I hope there is nothing again you which to achieve or conquer? Can you have it all in life? No. Even Atiku with all his billions stills dreams of being a president. You can't have it all. Ronaldo is fortunate to be in a team with winning mentality, unlike messi. Despite all Cristiano Ronaldo has won in his career, he would also wish to have a world cup medal which players like Giroud won without scoring a goal. There is always something left to chase and achieve. Despite all this challenges It doesn't dispute the fact that messi is indeed amongst the greatest players to play the game.
Had he naturalized to spain like diego Costa during their golden era of winning euros and world cup, this debate of who the greatest is would have been buried. Even if Argentina wins this year's copa America, you Ronaldo fans will still troll messi to win another international trophy to match Ronaldo's two. Nothing messi does will ever satisfy you people.
He's a victim of his brillance. Simple
ronaldo doesn't have two , he has one and one glorified trophy for friendly games
ashewoboy: ladies don't have sense. this is the type of guy she should date. no. she will date the bad guy who will phuck her very well. stupid girls. ladies stop going for guys that you like.go for guys that like you. ladies don't learn. stupid girls.
she has friendzoned this guy now. guys stop going for ladies that you like. go for ladies that like you.
which one u want make pesn do now , just de confuse pesn
Africanbest: The power of mourinho, He just said he wants to try coaching a national team some days ago and all of a sudden the Spanish team job became vacant.
Sit down and watch him win the world cup and European trophy he just talked about.
GreatPunter: Why do I have this funny feeling that the coach is trying to run Wait a minute, I am first to comment. So, las las nothing dey this position after all the noise people make when they comment first.
shut up already . Mumu . He's daughter was in an accident and her situation is serious . His family lives in the US so he has to be there with them .
[quote author= post=79459832]Madrid shaping up once again, after Ronaldo left........
Records are meant to be broken......someday, somehow! People have been creating and breaking records before Messi and Ronaldo started playing football. Issa simple sturvs![/quote]it is never a simple stuff , u think it's easy to score 50 goals in 34 games and starting only 30 of those? Or score 17 goals in 12 games in the UCL? I no even fit do am for fifa19 especially that first one .
Tinalex: Gbam!!! Hope some women can now leave their irresponsible husbands now n stop being intimidated devalued by narcissistic men and boys who believe women are nothing!!!
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...Ronaldo is a fantastic forward /player . But he's not a false nine .
