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how do you know what would happen if either player moved to the other club? stop projecting your opinion as fact. henry was already in his decline at the time he left arsenal but he  he was still a first teamer. im not sure what your point is though. you saying hleb was skilful in arsenal but not good enough for barca meaning that once a player leaves arsenal he is no longer good or what is your point? that automatically because hleb was on the bench at barca, song would be on the bench at chelsea? where is the correlation?. hleb was just unfortunate that he was a player barca did not need as they already had iniesta. he was bought by rijkaard who then got sacked and he found himsef with guardiola who did not want him,  simple bad luck. flamini is a first team player at ac milan. stick to the facts

@kgdavid,
i like the way u move with me. do u know the players called sol campbell and sylvester? if yes, what were they is their former clubs and what are they now is arsenal? the quality a player meets in a team can determine what roles he will play in that team.
do u know the player called wright philip? if yes, i hope u know he came from man city to chelsea but because of lack of first team game, he was forced to go back.
do u know the player called wayne bridge? if yes, do u know he left chelsea for man city in search of first team games and if u are following the development there, u will know he is into the starting line ups.
do you know kalou of ivory coast? before he joined chelsea, he was the highest goal scorer in holland but do u go to america with shakara? drogba has blocked that role with anelka as the second man.
need i remind u of kezman who came hot and bleeding to chelsea only to be in the refridgrator for some good time before using the exit door.
u can be hot in a team depending on who and who that are playing with u but when u move to meet greater and established talents, we will find the game to be a different story.
was henry not the captain and the leading goalscorer in arsenal before he left? but how possible was it for a player then to take the place of etoo who was worshipped in nou camp then?
pls in your soccer knowledge, how do u compare the kinds of talents in chelsea with that of arsenal. fabregas once said it that if the club wants to win things, the need to buy experienced players and that a drogba is very important in the team.
were u surprised when evra said that man u - arsenal game that ended in a 4-1 victory to man u was a game between men and boys?
let me explain it to u this way, peter cech at the goal, bosingwa 2 cavalho 6 terry5 and ashley cole 3 will surely take over the arsenal back 5 unless it is under amodu shaibu do u agree with that?  the bench that has alex and ivanovic will act before anyone from arsenal.
if u say mathew flamini is a first team player, which position is he playing for milan? holding midfield? u are in ur day dream. that position has been bought and paid for by one of the most outstanding distrubutors in the whole football world today and he is called andrea pirlo.

the development of a player does not depend on the judgement of uninformed nigerians rather visit the club's website, find out how many games he played in his first, second and third seasons till date, how many yellow or red cards in each. these are unbiased facts that warrants clubs to keep or discharge players.
for mikel to have finished a contract and got another improved one means he is doing what is expected of him by the authorities who are paying his wages.
if it is all about scoring goals, why will chelsea allow wright philip to go?
is chelsea having problems of goals if they can score 14 and conceed only two in their last three outings?
my dear, God has placed mikel somewhere very high above ur greeds and envy hence ur comparing him with fowls and goats will never change a thing.

@Chidichris, if there was negligence @ d hospital, why not call 4 d arrest of d Medical Director or the Doc on duty, or who is directly responsible instead of lashin out @ govt as though govt were an individual.

@marvix,
what u read under my id was what i had to contribute but if that is not comfortable with u, u can use the same road rimi used.
is it new that medical facilities in nigeria are as sick as patients in critical conditions.
a report attached to the driver of the late rimi had it that there was no strecther to carry his matser when they get to the hospital.
some deaths here are avoidable and rimi was part of the system(govt) that refused to provide these facilities when they had the opportunity to do so with the intention of flying to saudi arabia and germany whenever headache strucks but what a day?
the real killers of rimi from that report is the govt that has refused to make medical fecilities available to the ppl hence the need for govt to be arrested for neglegence.

there's no source cited and no quote from OBJ, Jonathan of Shegu confirming this
just speculation and english.

@Ikengawo,
u sound like the wisest man humanity has seen.
the big question here is, WHAT IF IT IS TRUE?
the other funny issues like the imposition of yar adua all started like this but today, they have come to pass.

only 15 suspects in a country of over 150 million ppl? no, that is too poor. we shld be looking at about 15 million ppl arrested at least to represent 10% of our population.
all the same, i trust nigerian police. they will soon get the killer as they did in the case of bola ige and other great nigerians who died on similar circumstances in the past.
very soon, the nigerian police will arrest goat and cow assassins suspected to be behind the killing of rimi.
by the way, we were told that the man died in the hospital because of neglegence and lack of equipment so if anyone must be arrested in this death, i think it is the govt who has refused to provide for us of which rimi is also a suspect.

There is this point we always miss in Iwu's case: firstly he is a single individual and does not possess the omini potent power. Secondly the political system is structurally bad. Thirdly we have a political party (PDP)with the philosophy of "the end justifies the means" and politicians that lack any sense of intergrity and modesty.
I used to see him from the lens of Devil advocate until i witnessed how PDP used the touts in the village to disenfranchised the voters amidst protests from both the officials and other party angents.
We all have a role to play as regards free and fair elections in this country. Iwu is a person and can only rely on the reports of field INEC officials. We can only stop curruption by personally resolving to do what is right and collectively stoping others from doing what is wrong. I am not Iwu's fan either Cool But if our political behaviour, culture and mindset to public offices(elective) is 'reformed', there is little an 'angel' can do to give us a glib of hope.

@govano,
i really understand where u are coming from and i want to say it out here that this topic is one of the best discussed topics so far on this forum as ppl say their minds with free and fair points.
let us accept that iwu's hands are tied and he can't do or no one can do more than what he has done given the same situation, then there is this need for him to RESIGN.
the country and the country's interests can never be compromised with one man's interests.
if iwu leaves today, what does he loose? i can say NOTHING.
he shld be happy to have stayed that long on such a vital position given the population of the country.
what is democracy? the minds of the majority. if iwu is to face the public tomorrow, u and i know the the majority of our ppl will want him to go if not DEAD.
he was appointed by a man whose interest is to die in power and we know for obasanjo to have appointed and kept him there, there must be a kind of agreement between the duo.
he has lost our confidence and u can't impose urself on the ppl especially in a democratic setting.
he has done everything right but we want him out now.
we want electorial reforms that can bring in a neutral person and not a sole licker.
what and how do u think an iwu appointed by obasanjo will work against obasanjo.
for organising elections where 85% of the results were overturned by the courts and violent took over the system means he has lost control of the commision hence the need for the man to go or has he come to tell us that the chairman of INEC is a DO OR DIE AFFAIR?

if mikel is playing in arsenal, he will be made the captain overnight.
he will choose his role. there is how a player will grow in a team and the coach will allow him free role and that is what anelka is enjoying in chelsea.
on the other hand, if song comes to chelsea, he will join his grades on the bench.
superstars in arsenal make the bench in someother big clubs and i will give u examples with the likes of Igwe arsenal-henry who was arsenal micheal jackson but a quality bench warmer in barca, mathew flamini who was doing the great works song in doing now but has enjoyed greater part of his stay in milan on the bench, we have hleb who was very skillful while in arsenal but high level competition made him a vegetable in barca. arsenal players who are doing well outside the club are the ones that rebeled against the stingy french man.
like i said, if mikel finds himself in arsenal today, he will have a choice in either being the goalkeeper or playing anywhere and anyhow on the pitch but who born cat for chelsea where men of class are playing.
if nigerians are not more of prophets of doom, we shld be celebrating a young man who is able to break into a star studded club like chelsea.
apart from mikel, how many nigerians have done well at junior cup levels and where are they today. mikel did not go to holland alone. mikel did not go with the yemi teller team that won the under 17 world cup, mikel did not go with the team that came second in olympic. mikel was not in the team that came second in abuja but where are all those players today and who among u here is talking about them.
this same mikel will kill all of u

assuming he has tried as he claims, now is time for change as they saying goes; THE ONLY CONSTANT THING IN LIFE IS CHANGE.
it is only in nigeria ppl kill, die and commit anything possible to serve the masses.
only here in nigeria do ppl struggle to serve the masses and here u see that even those who serve us do so without our consent.
de iwu, na by force say u go serve nigeria?
is ur professorship about elections? if the country no longer need ur services, why not go and enjoy what u must have gathered or better still go back to ur profession that is if u have any.
ur oga wanted third term, what term do u want on ur own? i wonder why aged men behave like this and i wonder what they intend to teach their children.
the affairs of this country are been piloted on the bases of trial and error and now that u have tried, pls give chance to another embecile to come and try abi we go fry egg for u before u go.
would u rather go the way of abacha for you to quite?

Are you for real? Sorry if you take offence, but have you no concept of shame? Did he steal money or not? Classic example of bad followership. A man came to your house and robbed you and despoiled your children, and all you can say is, 'let him go till we catch worse armed robbers'. Clap for yourself.

@sky blue,
are u from delta? if not, how come u like delta more than ur state? why are we not calling for the heads of our various former state govs? why is everyone after ibori? did his looting go beyond delta state? what we display here is equally the crime called selective justice. we all have our former govs and we overlook them for ibori.
let each and everyone of us here bring his former govs so that we kill them all at once.
if anyone considers his gov worthy to live, let that one tell us here why he thinks so.
they have all sinned and deserve to die but if for any reason, any of them is considered for a ministerial appointment like my former state gov achike udenwa, let all of them be made ministers.
if the war on corruption in nigeria is for a few opositions, i then support the idea of using even weapon of mass distruction on the so called efcc.

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or once can we reason and stop whinning out of sentiments.
are you telling me that Iwu is so daft to put dowm Micheal jackson, micheal ferguson e.t.c on the voter's register. I witnessed that in Awka personally during the national identity card scheme, people put down fictious names even with (explanation of people around on the importance of the exercise),saying they donot want their names in Nigeria but in Biafra, now if such names are published, will you blame Ministry of Interior Huh
Nigeria are bad losers, our culture of cheat makes all to cheat even where there is good system, what if none of the politician approach INEC for lobby and decide on santity of people vote, will IWU manipulate that. In Abia State, PDP planned all ways to cheat and PPA cheated more than them, and they are calling IWU names.
Is it IWU that is in Abuja that hire thugs, bribes electoral officiers in community wards e.t.c

@chiozor,
i like ur sense of reasoning but look at this. osama is wanted for 9/11, was he part of the group that carried out the actions?
bush is blamed for the wars in afghan and iraq but is he among the soldiers in the tow countries or what if the soldiers say, WE ARE GOING NO WHERE?
if u know the name okonjo iweala, she came in and saw how dirty the system was and tried to change the system but when she found out that the system has more possibilities of changing her, she left.
who is a leader? a leader is that one who has the legal powers to make rules and regulations guidng the act of others. on the other hand, making a law is one thing, enforcing the law is more important and punishing offenders is the most important one here.
chris uba of anambra state confessed to rigging in the state, what did he get? a promotion to the position of the chairman anambra state board of trsutees - pdp?
we all know that iwu is not really in charge but he is making us to believe he is in charge.
let the man go because he is a disgrace to proffesorhold. how can he descend so low at to be used by a retard despite his qualifications?
the embecile was bold enough last time to say Ghana and the usa have a lot to learn from the nigerian electorial system. check am urself, wetin nigeria wan teach these two countries, no just check am.

even the so-called kidnappers and armed robbers are not helping matters.
iwu is calling all of us idiots and they will leave him to kidnap pete edochie and osuofia.
our present set of kidnappers shld also resign because they have failed us.
if only these kidnappers will get hold of iwu or any vital member of his family, he will give them money enough to change business as well as saving us of the stress to be quarrelling with this man on daily bases.
let us accept the fact that he has tried as he claims, this is the time to quite. just give way for someone else to try.

the way obasanjo started. flying from one country to the other with nothing tangible at the end of it all.
jonathan! jonathan!! jonathan!!! where is ur president? why not first visit yar adua before visiting obama?
a man who has a dead person under his roof does not go on a condolence visit in another man's house.
a man whose house is on fire does not go after rats.
if u like, visit saddam hussien in his grave, ur house is not in order.
we have electorial reforms to fix here, we have iwu to chase away and we have obasanjo dominance to deal with what is the essence of going to america?
better stay here and face our problems.

a timely move in the right direction. at least, he will no longer be called a criminal now that he has bowed to the otah power that be.
be a pdp loyalist or face ribadu.
folks, we shld all know that ribadu is on his way back so the ealier atiku make up his mind the better for him.
we must accept the fact that ribadu did not hand over any case file to waziri so as soon as he comes back, case files will be reopened and to be on the safe side, atiku has to do what he has done.
BROTHERS, AS LONG AS OBASANJO IS IN CHARGE OF PDP AND NIGERIA, WE CAN NEVER NEVER AND NEVER MOVE FORWARD. HE HAS BEEN IN CHARGE SINCE 1999 AND WE CAN ALL SAY HOW THE MOVEMENT HAS BEEN.

to me, iwu is only a tool but the bad names he has gotten himself is as result of a man of his quality allowing himself to be used by a barrack ridden soldier.
sack iwu and bring soyinka, as long as there is a pdp too too and too desperate to remain in power by all means, the results prepared before the elections will still be announced after the elections.
why is pdp not ready to listen to the masses on the issues of electorial reforms? why is pdp hell bent on the presidency selecting or appointing the inec chairman? the hidden and open agenda here is clear as long as nigeria is concerned.
the rigging and manupulations start from the parties where individuals select the flag bearers at the deteriment of what the majority think.
the idea of democracy is defeated in our situations where annointed candidacy is the order of the day. we can't progress when the president has power to choose who the referee will be in a game he will be a part of.
i think what iwu is doing here is what each and everyone of us will do in his situation that is blowing his own trumpet otherwise, how can a man who elects 36 govs and loose 35 to the court be happy to praise himself?
in a civilised country, iwu will resign without nigerians telling him to do so.
i was never expecting anything different from a situation where obasanjo apointed iwu with ribadu as the man to screen politicians especially those up against his annointed candidates.
if i have my way, i will ask prof iwu to kindly step aside to save himself future embarrasments because his position in life is supposed to be greater than the foolish things he has been involved in.

@poster,
by nature Pastor Adeboye is a hmble person.
biblically, it is writen, respect your leaders.
again, Jesus Christ went as far as washing the feet of his servants.
believe you me, ibori might be rich but Pastor Adeboye on his own is not a poor man either.
was is  it not the same case when ppl like u who accuse Christ of winning and dinning with sinners?
if i were u, i will get myself a job or even write on so many relevant topics out there waiting for ppl to comment on them.

It stinks to hear you say we should glorify thieves like Ibori and Alams just because they are not the only thieves! And your tribal sentiments is disgusting as well. Just thank your God that this forum is faceless and anonymous. Otherwise, we would have grabbed you to have your brains checked with the Psychiatrics!

@me sef,
talking about glorifying thieves here, who was adedibu until his death? obasanjo, bode george, blorrishade, iyabo obasanjo, kayode etc, among these names, who is not a chief in the yorubaland and what can be more glorifying than recognising thieves for what they have stolen from the country? tinubu is a god in the yorubaland and obasanjo is saying tinubu is a criminal.
if there is any day a real and effective war on corruption in nigeria will start, aso rock will be the take off ground and as soon as a thief in the rock is touched and trimmed, these state thieves will not need anyone's advise on how to behave.
but as long as a selective justice type of war continues in nigeria, we can't get better from what we had between 1999 to 2007 where the highest level looting was recorded in the midst of the high rated war on corruption.

you think arsenal do not have youngsters out on loan or still in the reserves?
jack wilshere
fran merida
kieran gibbs
jay simms
carlos vela etc. by the way im not an arsenal fan.

@kgdavid,
i thought as much. why are u hiding ur identity? u obviously belong to that club that we won 1-0 at home and 1-2 on their ground.
if my guess is right then, that accounts for ur hatred for the bold guy who dumped u and ur criminal coach.
have u made researches on the transfer from lyn oslo to man u? were u able to confirm that was a fraudulent one? haqve u confirmed that the director of sports - morgan anderson was jailed for one year by a norwegian court because of forgery?
if these issues are not sorted out one after the other, this argue will not get an end.
i am here serving u with facts and figures but instead of u accepting points, u have made hatred and greed ur watchword. mikel was born to rule and he is naturally placed above u and ur destiny, it is obvious there is nothing u can do about that.
have u ever take a trip to all the things u have written about a man who is making ends meet in the legal fronts.
have u ever taken a trip to the number of people who watch mikel, week in, week out? have u ever listen to football commentators call him name in admirations? how have ur name been called by anyone who knows u? what have u achieved for urself, ur family, ur community, ur state and nigeria as whole that makes u an upright person to discuss the negativities of a hero? like i have asked u in several other places, ARE BORN A FAULT FINDING MACHINE? are u a prophet of doom? why can't u see good things in ppl? are u born a saddist? good things will never come to ppl who hate good things.

@chidi or watever your name is: will u jst keep your stinking mouth shut  Huh Huh we r deliberating on how to move things forward u r there spitting rubbish out of your curse goat-mouth. we yorubas knw how much money obasanjo siphoned, atiku's PTDF scandal, Ibori's embezzlement and many more. it doesnt matter who to bell the cat,wat we all need is some1 who will take us to promise land regardless of their ethnicity. we dnt care where the justice starts from.For as long as all those sons-of-a-bith in starched-agbadas r brought to book and r made scape goats,others will sit tyt. Pls stop being tribalistic here

@nethacker,
i have really seen ur type over and over again on this forum. bring out all nigerian politicans both elected and appointed, tell them that whosoever that is innocent of whatsoever crime ibori might have committed let him be the first to cast his stone.
what the late adedibu did in oyo state is unheard of yet nobody was uncomfortable with that.
how come ibori is the problem of every nigerian? what about those who served at federal capacities where the major atrocities were and are being committed. it is only unfortunate that fools like u can be decieved with ibori issues rather than men who have turned nigeria upside down.
out of 36 and ore govs, how man were u told were corrupt and how many are facing the music?
if not for chronic stupidity, embeciles will know how many of these politicians were asked to drop their presidential ambitions or face efcc.
what happened to the atiku scandal? it died with the election and someone is here to tell me ribadu is our mesiah.
like i said, if i were ibori, heads will roll. after alams, how many other govs suffered the same fate? if u do not belong to yaba mental home, u shld be asking urself how far ribadu cld go with his madness on the side of orji uzor kalu of abia state? atre u aware that the same gov won the election for his chief of staff who ribadu arrested before the election just to frustrate ppa in abia state.
man pass man. ibori shld emulate orji uzor kalu of abia state and stand his ground because nigeria belongs to all of us and not ur obasanjo and co.
ibori shld import bombs and granades. if possible, let him seize delta state and other states will start up their own and by so doing, everybody will become king in his own domain.
those who refused to lick the feet of that old shameless fool are criminals while all the criminals in nigeria are in his good books.
God punish devil.

Another senseless contribution! Leaving Ibori and Alams alone is why your greed in the Niger Delta will continue to be the bane of your development. That is why your fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters will continue to be deprived of good healthcare, good roads, potable water, good education and good means of livelihood. That is why your youths will continue to waste away indulging in all sorts of crimiality, fighting for daily bread with their lives. That is why the sons and daughters of Ibori and Alams will continue to enjoy all the good things of life from their father's loot while your own children will continue to transfer poverty from generations to generations. And this course shall continue until you learn to hold these monsters (your leaders) accountable! Fools!

@me sef,
if u are asked to grade the criminals in nigeria, where will u place the likes of mrs.etteh, bode george, borrishade, late adedibu, kayode, obasanjo as against ibori?
wether u like it or not, all these ibori, alams and kalu stuff are designed to mislead nigerians. obasanjo made same noise against tinubu and why is it that idiots like u are not calling for the head of tinubu?
who killed bola ige? maybe ibori? who stole the missing ship? maybe ibori. all the contracts that were given for electricity, roads and police at federal level were all given to ibori i think.
as a foolish idiot that u are, what do u have against ibori

oga, that is not what i asked for. i mean in their various positions on the pitch, who can bench who eg can u play clichy on 3 instead of ashley cole?
who in ur defence line will u preffer to john terry and calvaho? two defensive midfielders in place of essien and mikel? who will u play in the place of lampard? what about drogba?
if chelsea is interested on youngstars or starlets as u arsenal fans will call them, manciene, stock, di santo, kalkuta, fabirini, matic, sturidge, burma will all be robbing sholders with ur first eleven.

hmmm so in what ways are mikel and fabregas on the same level? these are two totally different players. its like comparing lampard and essien. where is the common ground? song is not mediocre by any stretch of the imagination and i doubt that you have watched him play this season. you make itsound as if chelseaar vastly superior to arsenal when in reality they are not.

@kgdavid,
i thought i have convienced u very well or is it the enterance of the goat trader(Nwogeneugo) that make u change ur mind again?
if chelsea is not superior to arsenal, why did chelsea beat them home and away on a 5 - 0 aggreegate this season? why is chelsea seating on top of the table with 3 points above arsenal and supperior goal difference?
how do u rate the superiority of a team? pls if possible, choose a chelsea first team and replace them in their positions with arsenal players to confirm which aspect of the team where arsenal is better.
1. peter for almuna
pls do that one after the other.
be reasonable and do not allow ur hatred, greed and envy becloud ur sense of reasoning.
do not behave like the goat trader because he is so close to goats that he can and is allowed to behave like goats.

as long as it is not a pro-govt business, it does not stand here in nigeria.
be informed that this is not the first business that belongs to orji uzo kalu that faced this kind of hard time in nigeria.
we all saw obj regime chase slok airline out of nigeria.

I am sure chidichris is from Niger Delta where human life is of no value , imagine talking about killig hundreds of EFFCC chieftains he wre in Ibori s shoes . Now i know why people are asking they are going to do with oil money , they are all rogues . You remember that one time chairman of NDDC spent N500m to repair his manhood from the coffers of NDDC and NOTHING  happened . UNA GO SUFFER TAYA

@soyad,
if there is anyone here who will suffer, it is u and ur lineage.
i am from imo state. mrs etteh used well over N623m in  renovating a house and we all know the rest of the story.
iyabo obasanjo was involved in the medical equipments contracts and when she was invited by efcc, we all saw how a senator went missing.
the highest level of looting in nigeria come from the yorubas and they are all free ppl and imagine that bastard called bode george serving just two years not even arrested by ribadu.
ribadu found atiku guilty but what happened till today. the only thieves the yorubas know are ibori, kalu and alams. among all the govs of the western region, non is guilty of anything.
obasanjo who financially brought nigeria to her kneels is still the sole decider in important issues in nigeria till date. iwu the most popular criminal in nigeria is a saint just because he is working for obasanjo.
like i said, ibori is a fool.
if i were him, i will declare war on the efcc and their men. i will be ready to die for the course but i will surely make my mark.
tell me, who is more criminally involv ed in the destruction of nigeria than tony annenih. why is nobody facing trial in the federal fronts where our problems as nigerians are lying?
if ribadu comes back with the same form, i am telling u and mark my words, he will not go free this time arround.
why is ribadu not coming to explain to the present efcc what happened to all the recovered funds from his victims?
there was this romour that the yorubas are planing to join benin, so what is going on with that?

i think this guy chidichris is just being infantile, who is better mikel or song : take your pick and argue your points intelligently then shut up and listen to the next man.

song is better than mikel offensively, mikel has not taken his gameto the next level, he is great as a DM but he also is a great passer of the ball and he really knows how to pick out his team mate but he has not developed that part of his game and the modern game is all about offensive ability, the ability to score goals, compare the two of them and how many goals they have scored for their clubs and see what i am talking about. mikel has just stayed stuck where mourihno kept him, he needs to fulfil his full potential and that means his offensive abilities, shooting, heading and running forward with the ball.
he can tackle, really knows how to shield the ball between his feet and break up play but when he gets the ball he cannot start a fast counter attacking move or send in a pass from his own half on the run for his teammate (like obagoal or osaze) to finish.

he is good as a defender but needs to work on his offensive abilities.

@Nwogeneugo,
after reading ur post, i became confussed on either to respond or not but that not withstanding, u are like everyother nigerian coaches among the over 150 million nigerian coaches alive. like ur nigerian fellow coaches, u have succeeded in seeing beyond world class coaches who have worked and are still working with mikel.
anyways, u are enjoying ur democratic right under the rule of law and freedom of expression in particular.
from the way u introduced urself into the topic, it is very simple to know that u are communicating from onitcha head bridge. i am not surprised that u are now behaving like the goats u sale because they are ur ever close partners.
soccer is something u have to make out time to watch, read and listen to ppl before u can comment. why don't u concentrate on the goat market business that u are well informed of?

i'm not sure what percentage of that money Mikel got (if any) cuz it was paid to united as compensation. there was nothing fraudulent about offering lyn oslo 4m for mikel. at the time of he contract, he was still very much a junior player.

@kgdavid,
i can see u are weak and tired in ur arguement of song been better than mikel now the issue of over rating.
wether mikel gets anything from the contract money or not, does that make a sick cow the same size with a goat?
instead of making blind arguements, u can ask questions. in the case of the contract of man u and lyn oslo, just go to google and put the name of the sporting director of lyn oslo who sold mikel to man u. his name is morgan anderson. google morgan anderson of lyn oslo and u will read news that are not based on bias and envious minds.
u are begining to irritate me. are u here as a gravitational force against the life of mikel? what is ur interest in the life of someone u hate with passion?
why are not sleeping over someone else's headache? are u this wicked that u follow and support negative news of mikel here and there? what do u think about his destiny or have u ever thought of changing his destiny?
beware what u wish ur fellow man as that definitely will come back to u.

@poster,
if u only go for 15, it means u deal more with dirty gals.
what about the nose? what abt their main market? na waa to u.

anything less than 4 sugar mummies will be a crime against humanity.
pls go for them or accept them as they come as u are a lucky guy.

na the same old criminal group.
the first time i heard the name annenih, it was about a well loaded high robber. the second time i heard the name, it was for a political criminal who openly told us that he is bigger than the country and his exact words were; i am too big to be cooked in any pot here in nigeria and now comse another another annenih in our list of new ministers. i am wacthing.

well at this point it all boils down to style of play and personal opinion. there is no right or wrong here.

@kgdavid,
does it mean you v come to terms that all these unhealthy comparism are of no interest to surposed soccer fans?
is it possible you have agreed with me that ppl shld learn to be proud of what they have?
finally like i said earlier on, both players have their qualities though at different classes and are doing what they know how to do best for their various clubs and countries enjoying some good rewards at the end of every week hence GOD'S blessings in them have gone beyond human destructions.

free flow football is what wenger always preach.
it is very unfortunate today that more of harsh tackles are coming from arsenal.
this professor of free flow football has refused to flow in camp de nou.
folks, what do u think?

to me, having or removing our name from the list means little or nothing as the number of lives we loose every year as a result of these terrorists especially in the north shld be the issue here.

finally u want to talk football! good. first of all mikel and song play what generally appears to be the same position but are quite different. where songs main strengths lie in winning the ball mikels main strengths lie in distributing the ball. to me songs ball winning abaility is more valuable than mikels 'coolant' effect. yes i agree with you that mikel plays a very important role in ensuring the continuity of chelseas game but defensively he is not good enough. song on the other hand is a an excellent defender with not as much of mikels distribution skills but with a little bit of it. mikel is good at creating space for himself and the team while song is better at driving forward(carrying the ball forward by himself). song is also more mobile than mikel. these are my reasons for picking song over mikel. i beleive song has more of a capacity to impact the game when the going gets tough

@kgdavid,
i think we are close to something here.
these two players are in two team in england and they have both met twice this season, the two players were both part of these meetings, what was the outcome of their meetings and what were the impacts these two plahyers on these meetings?
the last time i checked, mikel was among the names in the daverts of south africa 2010 as stars who will be on display in south along the likes of essien, drogba, messi, torres, gerald, lampard, and other world top players.
like i said earlier, song is a youngstar and we look at him for great football in future but at the moment, he is in the school of waiting. pls always remember that arsenal is a passing ground. as soon as song gets to where he is expected to, u will see suitors frpom arround the globe in the matured grounds.
i want to refer u to fabregas who is now matured enough and will soon be on his way.
pls tell me any arsenal player that u believe can break into chelsea team at the moment and refer me to who he will bench.
if mikel comes to arsenal, he will be a coach player.
chelsea has the like of di santo who is on loan to blackburn, stock on loan to fc twenty, mancienne on loan to wolves, kalkuta trying his luck in the reserves, sturridge still struggling in the reserves and i bet u, if these players are in arsenal, they will be making headlines. i am only telling u all these to u how competitive it is to be in the star studded chelsea.

@poster,
is this what u call breaking news? we want to hear fired with gun and not this drmatic firing.
just mark the and wait till the next ministerial appointment and see if he will nor make it.