₦airaland Forum

jumobi1:
Don’t take things personal. Agbakoba, SAN raised this issue before the election. Other senior advocates are debating the issue. Yes I think it could have been drafted better.

Trust we are far from that junction " personal" .. I am trying so hard to see things from your angle which still can't

The fuss here is 25% in the FCT, would it have being better if FCT was drafted as superior over 36 main states ..
In subsequent elections what do you think will happen when aspirants know FCT is the major decider ...

As electorate and as a Nigerian living elsewhere how will you feel knowing your candidate can't win except people in FCT assent to it. should we start worshipping people in abuja in advance

which is better

Believeintruth:
Stop being a wise ass. You said SE and you mentioned Monday, you were indirectly referring to igbos

I can only remember asking you to travel to SE on a monday to exercise your fundamental rights ... is that tew much to ask ?

why should "monday" be pertinent to a tribe/region

Believeintruth:
Can you just shut up. Someone who criticises you is automatically an Igbo

did you criticize me somewhere else and where did i call you igbo, or is it only igbo that can travel to SE

Sandralight:
How about the govt providing Buses for us citizens, we could pay very low amount of fare monthly and we get a card that we will use to enter the bus.
This could help with subsidising transport fares.
The buses could be provided in major towns in each state, the stipend people that plans to use the bus pays will be use for the maintenance and fuel usage.

This could be way better than giving 8k to imaginary people because I am sure that 99% of citizens won't see that money

I have being reasoning along these line tew, subsidizing transportation would be one big relief esp. to lagosians

IF govt can extend the e card BRT buses across states, by choice people can obtain the card with there NIN or BVN

On that card a stipulated relieve fund is paid by the Govt, which the card users will use monthly throughout the palliative period


the given amount will not re drawable or transferable, I think that will be more effective and more people will feel it.

Weytin transportation dey comot for people's earning in lagos big pass Bombay

Xscape1993:
He has no option. Well, I never liked his style of rulership. Agberoism and toutism are the basis of his government. Can anything good ever come out of this evil party and fraudulent government?

If you think agberoism and toutism is evil go and exercise your fundamental right on monday anywhere in the SE.

give us feedback

taylor89:
Shebi they said no Obidients in the north


These must be IPOB from Anambra

Just one person can pay for that AD, that is not to take away anything from the obedient But don't even have that funny believe Peter Obi stand a chance to win kano now or in his next life

jumobi1:
Good point regarding 25% and democracy. Regarding the Minister, who elected the Minister? Definitely not the people since the appointer didn’t even score 25% of the votes in the FCT.
The truth is that our constitution was poorly drafted.

FCT as capital represent mini Nigeria, its only logical the Man than has the majority vote and 2/3 of all states appoint the minister that preside over FCT ... makes logical sense

The electoral act have being is existence for 24yrs and suddenly some people just realized the constitution was poorly drafted because there acclaimed messiah did not win
FCT is not a state, buh on the bases of equity & fairness to all the daftman decided to upscale FCT as one of the states, so as not to disenfranchise the people in abuja, however they have no locus standi to claim superior

switch tables if OBi had won majority vote plus 2/3 of 36states ... will you still think the electoral act was poorly drafted becos of 25% FCT lets not fool ourselves jare

These one is high on soak away

udeh3:
For an election that has more than two contestants, it's correct, 25%

Take the study of your Constitution seriously

wow ! can you take me through the calculation using the FCT election result ?

udeh3:
You clearly don't know the Constitution. Even if the presidential candidate has no opponent, he has a certain percentage of vote he must get before pronouncing him the winner. Winning isn't about who has more votes or who won more states, it's about who won according to the Constitution

How can one govern and leave in a place less than 25% voted for you? That is calamity. It shows you're not welcomed even before taking responsibility. This is why it's called an Area Council

Listen to yourself does your statement sound convincing even to you,
In a democratic settings, the only requirement to emerge winner over a state is to have Majority vote in whatever % as long as it resonate majority.

Having 25% in FCT does not resonate ACCEPTANCE from lens of democracy lets not even argue that nonsense

Democracy entails Equality and Majority,

1.superiority of FCT over other states rules out Democracy
2. Eligiblity of 25% to control FCT defiles Majority rule which is sancrosanct as well.

However, one thing is clear here, you are the one misinterpreting the electoral act, for instance ikeja is the capital of lagos imagine not declaring sanwo olu winner becos he lose ikeja LcA sho make sense

I asked a question, IF you say the president doubles as governor of FCT then what does Minister of FCT stand for ??

udeh3:
Abuja in the Constitution isn't a state. FCT was defined in the Constitution. Please, get your facts right.

Nigeria comprises of two components in the Constitution;
1. The states
2. The FCT. One must get 2/3 of the two components

The Constitution defines the meaning of the states which are 36 while it went forward to define what FCT means. FCT is regarded as an Area Council headed by the President as the governor. So, if you must be the president of the council, 2/3 is the requirement

So, the Constitution isn't wrong to always note state and FCT. They're different entities So, get 2/3 in 24 states and 2/3 of the Area Council which is FCT Or[b] do you win a state as a governor without winning 25% of the state[/b], if we so consider FCT as a compulsory state? This is the council that houses all the Federal bodies

From the beginning in Section 2 (2) the Constitution distinguishes the states and FCT providing that “Nigeria shall be a Federation consisting of States and a Federal Capital Territory”

Then, in section 134,
(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

Can you mention one governor presiding that won his state by " 25% "
Going by your assumptions, if the constitution portrays the president as the governor of FCT, does 25% suffice as majority,

if 75% of FCT voted against Tinubu how does getting 25% make him change anything, from all point of logical reasoning. if we must treat FCT seperately i put it to you getting 25% is not enough to be a leader anywhere, 75% is a lot to ignore someone must have misinterpreted the law

democracy is all about majority and that is why we must treat FCT as 37th state to give aggregate that will resonate majority

Lastly, if you maintain the president is the governor of FCT then what does "FCT minister" stand for.

KillMNKnow:
Nigerian judiciary is the most corrupt body in the entire universe

There's something inherently bad with Africans

Says the gender that fed adam apple

festacman:
It is scary that President Tinubu who had always insisted that he would remove fuel subsidy from his first day in office, had ZERO plan to contain the effects of such removal. And his only reaction is to fall back to Buhari's MYSTERIOUS money transfer to the poor and vulnerable. This doesn't inspire much confidence.

What makes you think he does not have a plan, becos he hasnt being saying much rite !

Plan is not even the major issue here, the biggest problem is "implementation process" that will be "effective"
All along we always have superb/brilliant policies but Implementation is were we always fail becos we don't have a system in place that will guarantee effectiveness.

Covid 19 for instance, palliatives was granted but some people hoard it and we did even know until God decided to expose them.

Whatever the government dole out will it get to the targeted masses, sharing plan is cheap execution/implementation is the major headache in a country like Nigeria

DesChyko:
WTF 😲 Have a nice day, 'educated one' 🙌

Another amateur antics to save face !! whats more funny is the tails between your leg as you run ...

reminds me when i go after my dogs and they run into there cage wicked me

DesChyko:
You're now twisting your very own words. Here is exactly what you said 👇


To which I clarified earlier that such certificate does not exist. 👇


Indeed you meant something else, in this case, Statement of Result. Statement of Result is Statement of Result and Certificate is Certificate. There is no interchanging the two. There is no temporary or permanent version of either. If you think I'm kidding you, call the school up at Mushin 😉 and ask them. They should be able to clarify the basis of their own document.

Like I said earlier, it appears University protocol (and academic protocol as a whole) is a bit above your mind space. Your use of kid everywhere does little to shield your abject lack of understanding on how such documentations work. Do well to stick to whatever it is you have expertise on. This is not your fort👍

You just like to argue nii, i used temporary and certificate in a statement .. all it takes is discretion.
Your original waec certificate is a statement of results as well becos it shows all your subject and grades, the only difference between both is the template and the issuance bear WAEC
The laminated white paper voters card we all used before the issuance of PVC is what ??

If you insist there is no temporary, then define the purpose of these "print out" from jamb..

DesChyko:
An example of a University that issues temporary results before the original copies are issued, thanks in advance.


For starters, secondary schools NEVER issue WAEC certificates, whether temporary 😁 or permanent. WAEC alone issues this and they do so ONCE. Maybe you mean something else.

It appears University protocol (and academic protocol as a whole) is a bit above your mind space so I'd spare you the torment.

Hello kid, are you naturally daft or you are just trying to save face , you write so well i think your parent sent you to school so what is your problem

I made it clear school issue statement of results before waec original copy is out .. which we used temporarily before getting the original. here is mine, oya tell me it fake

SEO2002:
shut tf up there u shameless yellowbar muzlim p!g.Liar, when did awolowo send food to biafra u b@$tard, u think we still blv ur silly propaganda. Ur fvckin tribe and this shitty contraption of a country can never achieve technological feats of biafra,nt now nt in 100yrs.Other countries boasts of tech u dy brag with cocoa. Anumanu nwuru anwu

Hello kid, i won't ask you ask your parent apparently your parents are liers that will never tell the truth...
Google is there for children to use, find the truth

Check behind every appliances/electronic you have how many other names do you see asides "china" no matter the relevance of tech no nation can survive without agriculture/food.

Humans wakeup everyday to ask for food but there people in the world today that have chosen not to stay off civilization or tech ...

yellowbar xtain will continue to brag , cocoa house in ibadan was built with cocoa proceed and it is the tallest building in Nigeria Omo igbo weytin una papa use Aba made invention build. all mouth nothing to show always. omo iran ki ran

DesChyko:
The originals of my CV are in my possession. That's the difference isn't it? I submitted a photocopy of this original. [b]I didn't submit a copy of an original I didn't have yet.[/b]And you didn't think your comparison through either 😉

And if you saw the videos of Obidients in rallies and campaigns leading up to the elections and you really believe this your 'teenage' jib, then my friend, your sense of judgement should be sold for free 👍

Still on result, i take it you didnt know there are temporary results printed before the original copies are issued ...
Before Waec issued original result copy most of us used the temporary issued certificate by schools, does it mean it was fake or forged
There was a time INEC issued temporary voters card before the original, does it mean the temporary is fake
I remember using that temporary voters card at Mtn office, My question to you, what they submitted is it different from the original you saw

when a kid fall na front e go look after labouring in vain if anything fascinate you about obedient then you lack sense of reasoning.

DesChyko:
In their final address, Wole and sons said they've applied for the original copy of the certificate. It begs the question..which version did they submit? A fake? 😁

I believe the originals of your CV are in your possesion does it mean the one you submited at school or at work is fake

most of you obedient are just teenagers with little sense, you just talk buahhh people God no give joy but result to licking sugar

shortgun:
Tinubu's lead counsel Wole Olanipekun based his argument on section 299 of the constitution in his final written address in defence of the 25% requirement in F.C.T.
which states that F.C.T should be treated as any other state of the federation.

I also see a lot of Tinubu supporters on this forum echoing the same position but what they don't know is that the same section 299 they love to quote will be used to sack Tinubu.
Here's the complete section:
Section 299.
The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly -

(a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the Governor of a State and in the courts of a State shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(b) all the powers referred to in paragraph (a) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution; and

(c) the provisions of this Constitution pertaining to the matters aforesaid shall be read with such modifications and adaptations as may be reasonably necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of this section.


The "AND" that is preceding "accordingly"
in section 299; is it interpreted
as conjunctive?
or
as disjunctive ?


If it's interpreted as conjunctive then F.C.T should have a governor and a state legislature just as every other state.

if it's interpreted as disjunctive then it only applies to the administration of the F.C.T and the composition of it's courts and has no bearing with it's status during election; meaning a presidential candidate most secure 25% of votes cast in the F.C.T

Obi is coming

So what happens to other requirements, incase you lost your memory

1. score Majority vote

2. 25% in 24states

@least these two conditions resonate with equality and fairness to all compared to Mr 25% in the FCT,

You expect court to overlook 1 & 2 and impose a 25% in FCT on Nigeria as legimate winner and you think that is not enough to cause anarchy, where is it done

even @ Re-run Peter Obi is not qualified from all evidences gathered.

So what happens someday when they decide to move capital from Abuja to maybe Akwa ibom or back to Lagos

Danisaint112:
Igbos and Southerners to the world. I laugh when I hear people say Igbos will be killed like chicken again if such is repeated.

If Biafra can achieve all this during that time when the world Haven been this advance in tech think of what they could achieve now.

If even Igbos are allowed to go trust me. They wouldn't want to fail themselves and become a laughing stock.

If Singapore can do it Igbos who have done it before will do better this time.

One thing is sure with the current level mass Tribalism in this country way worse than racism Igbos face abroad Nigeria will surely divide someday.

The South might not go with Igbos but they will definitely become well progressive overtime and have peace enough peace.

Whats glamarious about a war induced invention, after the war nko as the inventions put SE ahead of other region
Is it that the East has no memorable period that resonate with glorious days such that the only history they have to share is Civil war ..

What is wrong with people one foolish man started a coup that led thousands of youth to there early and left so much destruction in there land yet that is the memory some one chooses as a glorious day

All those inventions, how did it benefit the economy of SE, is there any developmental growth worth of mentions

Inventions without food production , yet they brag they last 3yrs if not for Awolowo that was graciously sending food to SE can they last 1yr without food
When we SE historians start bragging and informing us of how they survive independently with food production, Ungrateful things, how many infrastructure in the SE was built by the invention revenue

In SW we have infrastructures built with agricultural proceeds/revenue .. those are the things of pride not a civil war you lost and can't pin point one benefit over time.

Buccalcavity2:
Illiterate!
The statement is not a threat!. It is called logic, where his conclusion agrees with the premise.
After quoting the conjunctive perspective, He said 'votes of Abj is not superior to other areas of the country'. Therefore, any other interpretation will only bring anarchy....
Meaning other areas in Nigeria will then feel inferior/disenfranchised within the Nigerian union and desire to assert their right 'since constitution is skewed against them'. That is anarchy.
It's an argument. That's his job, to advance an argument.

Bro most of the spoke person for Peter obi know these even the media know But they just have to misconstrue the statement to heat up the politics, sensational headline is what sells

I gave up on Nigeria media and elites at the time jubril of sudan became a national debate. smh


Nigeria elites are a disgrace to the world

Karlman:
You are the illiterate one here!
Who does the lawyer represent?
I hope you're able to reason this time.

The statement was drafted by who

2ndly the lawyer said so many things in the final address, if not for propaganda and mischieve why are the children of hate ascribing the threat part as "Tinubu said "..

Olanipekun said so many things at the tribunal, are those Tinubu's word tew then i begin to wonder why Tinubu hired a lawyer when he can speak for himself. people don't think anymore

Racoon:
And who is the lawyer representing in court? Not the same balabloo-blu-bulava criminal? It is today that Tinubu started threatening Nigerians and the judiciary?

You have a wide buccal cavity but it is spewing bullshit. This is why it is said one can never defend Tinubu without loosing ones senses. Abeg swerve.

Representing in what capacity, you people just delight in propaganda and childish talks

Sometimes i begin to question the sanity of the Elite class, Tinubu hired Olanipekun to defend him as an expert in that field so Olanipekun chose the words & legal tactics.

can you hire a lawyer and still be the one putting words in the lawyer's mouth ... does it make sense. out of all the things olanipekun said in his final remark naa the threat part be Tinubu own fools

In a bid to heat up the politics some of you switch off your IQ, where exactly did Tinubu made those threat, its time we see the direct link

Yeye ! which one he don celebrate share rice, stingy man sabi birthday

People celebrate rounds figures 30, 50, 60, 70 yrs so what is there about 62 to celebrate or call paso

1Sharon:
Yes I've learnt this recently that men hardly want friendships with women.

But women are much more naive and think we can be friends with men. The reason is because men approach women under the guise of friendship, knowing they wanted something deeper.

There are men that intentionally friendzone themselves, it's not always the women!

It goes both ways .. lets be realistic

For the big boyz and well to do guyz .. you find will gurlz in your environment famzing and initiating a friendly rappor at every chance they get, some gurlz will even intentionally go wait at the junction to ask for a lift so they can get closer

So its goes both ways, and most times ladies put guyz in the friendzone cos no guy on a norm will friendzone himself

maasoap:
EluuuP wey go make difference no dey dia again? Have you heard their voice?
I don't know when you guys will wake up to reality.

What as these got to do with "ronu", 10th NASS is saturated with undisputed choices of the people and moreover it comprises various party .. have Pdp and Lp senators done anything to show they are not in support of the looting spree

At any negative news children of hate jump out and make it look as if with Peter Obi corruption would have varnish, ... but from Buhari vs Saraki 8th Nass we witnessed does naive lightweight politician from a 3rd roll region like OBI have the tact, sagacity, doggedness & ruggidity to take the NASS down

Peter Obi that was impeached easily as governor if not for court, how will such weakling character fare among the hyenas at the national level or he go dey carry every matter go court?

Nigerians did not choose Peter Obi and there is no regret about that.

Please i buy dead power bank ... i mean battery dead. if you have holla

hammerFC:
WE THE REAL IGBOS HAVE NOT RESTED AND WE WONT REST, UNTIL WE GET JUSTICE.



NO MATTER WHAT HIS SUPREME COURT GOVERNOR IS TOLD TO SAY, I ASSURE TINUBU THAT THE ONLY THING THAT AWAITS NIGERIA ARMY IN SE IS DEATH.



THE ONLY THING THAT AWAITS TINUBU IS WAR CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.



HIM AND SADDAM HUSSEIN WILL SHARE SIMILAR FAITH.

will you keep quiet, e warrior the last time crocodile tears was launch in the East, the so called Ipob went to hide under there mother skirt, even NNK eloped with truck carrying stock fish to a neighbouring country .. na so so mouth dem get

Herkim:
My fellow south east people , it's high time you take your destiny into your hands.

You know these set of criminals disturbing the peace of your regions , flush and expose them and their families to an higher authority to be dealt with according to the law of the land.

Don't harbour nonentity and criminals in your states. I repeat .

Releasing Nnamdi kanu at this point in time will never changed anything in the south east
For instance , when former president buhari released Kanu was there any change in that region.

Don't mind them, they are looking for how to blame the insecurity in south east on FG, if FG should take the bait all atrocities in SE will be heaped on the military, they will start writing letter to UN & FIFA demonizing Nigeria military

"Harbor is the problem" that was the same mistake North made until boko haram became a full monster, moreso you can't find insurgence in SW because we don't "Harbor" terrorism or militants, even your parent can go to the police station to report your hideout, family shame is a big deal in SW

Let the locals in SE stop Harboring and 60% of the problem is solved,

Beremx:
Wole Olanipekun is overrated. Defending Tinubu at the tribunal has exposed a lot. It is really difficult defending a stolen mandate

And how many cases have you supervised to arrive at such lame asertion,
as bird take fly the hunter go follow throw stone

Were OBi's lawyers exceptional or give a revelation Nigerians have not heard or seen before, same old shit
Tinubu lawyers are in court to defend, don't expect tik tak or skills, most football fans find chelsea football boring at the time they play "pack bus " guys can relate.

Obi lawyers are the ones looking for goal, they owe you thrills and intrigues you anticipated

gentiles:
Cowards die many times before their death, cowardice and timidity runs in the veins of an average Yoruba man. Why is that Simon Ekpa has not tried sit at home in any S/S state? because he knows the consequence of such an action, but every tribe is making a mockery of Yorubas, because they are weak and spineless. Ekpa is a smart guy, he is only using the proposed sit at home in lagos to test the water, the real agenda is to continue from the destruction they unleashed on lagos in October 2020 under the guise of Endsars. Dis people too mumu

I doubt if you are your right senses, mockery that does not go beyond words, so far what actions or move have subjected the SW to mockery as you claim
People are free to wake up and say whatever they like, but whats the implication
Ojukwu greatest mistake was trying to invade SW, he paid darely
The last time SS mlitant tried to invade SW with their bullshit, dey smell their mama pvssy

Drum wey get water no dey make noise, nonentities like you go about thinking its about beating chest or causing noise pollution, real men don't make noise cross the line and you will know gentility is not stupidity or weakness
When they said Lagos is no man's land and they will dethrone yorubas authorities,... who follow dem brag muscle, small skit wey there eye on election day their generation won't forget.

Yorubas don't believe in noise, cross the line and lets see how your mothers we get away unscrewed