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casualobserver:
Jesus wept!!!!

please lets not make these a religious war

casualobserver:
Well what matters is the day the ward stamped the letter. If you resign from a party it is not the national executive that matters but the ward. Either way he was still a member of PDP on May 20th by his own admission.

I am telling you the procedure for registration and resignation. It happens at the ward level. You don’t go to PDP HQ in Abuja and say you want to register from Enugu ward, they will tell you to go to your ward in Enugu.

Again read the letter again, he is simply informing g the national executive because he is a high profile member and involved in the primaries. He clearly states he has informed his ward that he has resigned. Unfortunately no one has a copy of the letter he sent to the ward.


The ward is where you register or resign. This letter is merely a courtesy letter to the national executive because he is a high profile member.

It does not change anything. He was a PDP member after the expiration of the deadline for parties to submit their register of members.

ALOL !! now why will no one have a copy of letter that existed, is it carelessness or what

Isnt it funny to you, Everyone as a copy of the letter that was a mere formality BUT the one deemed valid nobody get am 🤣 .. how much is photocopy abi mmoesoma use am sell akara

My friend there is only one letter and that what you are seeing online.

IF inec had disqualified Peter Obi pre-election it might have digenerated to chaos or civil war going by the heat at that time, But its good they allow him contest so @least he knows his position now. it won't do national interest any gud if Peter was disqualified

casualobserver:
That is an understandable alteration. He claimed he informed his ward on the 20th of May, and his letter says he is no longer a member effective 20th May. Registration and deregistration takes place at the ward level. The letter to the national executive is just a formality, perhaps out of courtesy to inform them that since he has resigned, he is no longer a candidate in the primaries.

He left the PDP officially on 20th May…..still 28 days after the April 22 INEc deadline. Note: LP presidential primaries was 30th May, so he joined LP at most 10 days before their primaries. He could not have been on their register 30 days before the primaries as require by law.


Understand that the reason why this law was enacted was to prevent people jumping from one party to another after losing their primaries in a party. It’s a more serious offense than that which they accused Shettima of.

The letter becomes effective the date PDP issued recieved stamp on it ... that is the official procedure for resignation.

I can write a resignation in feb, tell all my colleagues i am going But until the day my Boss or company accept that letter its not official, legally or formally i am still a staff.
IF letter to the National executive was just a formality why his Peter Obi not parading the letter you think is valid a whole Peter Obi that contested as PDP vice president go wan resign naa agulu ward chairman go come authorise am, una no dey think
Peter Obi talks alot about process But its very funny how he does not know some basics.

PDP recieved and authorised that letter 25th, that is the day Peter Obi resignation becomes effective by corporate & legal standard quote me anywhere

franchasofficia:
This is an intra party matter and pre-election matter too. APC and Tinubu ought to have brought the case forward before the election.


Now the tribunal is dealing with post-election matter.


And lastly, Bola Tinubu and APC with INEC are defendants in the Tribunal not litigants. If they want to sue Obi for not being a member of Labor Party, they will need to file a fresh case against Obi, while the Tribunal focuses on the litigants case.



I cannot sue you in court and while defending yourself, you turnaround to start accusing me of one wrongdoing. Court proceedings doesn't work that way. If you have a case against me, you will need to file a separate suit against me for that not while defending your own case.



Olanipekun Ronu people lawyer na charge and bail lawyer for Oshodi under bridge



May this case of Obi not being a member of the Labor Party favor me and my family oh, ire oh

what makes the shettima double nomination and Tinubu certificate plus drug case a post election matter, mind you these cases were quashed out of court pre - election yet a coconut head stil brought it back to court

Of all the Petitions Peter Obi made against Peter OBi how many resonate with post-election matters asides the IREV part.

Playing a defend does not mean when you get a penalty you pass to throwing does it
court proceedings can go that way base on, "he that must come to Equity must come with clean hands" don't ever forget that

Peter Obi case can only favor lawyers who are ready to decieve him way up to supreme court, don't waste your time

Andrenalin:
Peter Obi is very very wise, he knows something like this will happen, so he sue them on his own name and with lp. The case file shows that LP and mr Peter Obi sue Tinubu and INEC. So if you knock LP out, Obi is there to hold you on your left leg…. I laugh in Swahili

Mumu ! show us where OBi is written on the Ballot paper

Without LP, Peter Obi is just like any spectator at the tribunal, OBi needs LP as much as LP need OBI

casualobserver:
There is no supplementary list.

He resigned on May 25th, one month after the deadline.

On the letter seems OBi wanted to lie about the date he wrote 20th before, it must have taking God fearing people around for him to change it to 24th, even when its obvious the letter was written on 24th guyman still wan LIE

DrGoodman:
That's an intra party affair. Pre election matter.

But shettima nomination is community affair. Post election matter

tonywonder:
Yes! This is also what I believe!! For crying out loud this has been a girl carrying first position all her life.... From Nursery to Secondary School.... Why would she forge her result at this time!!!

Yeah ! she has being taking the 1st position all her life but, jamb happened .. for the 1st time she find herself in a position beneath 1st, it takes lot of maturity to accept defeat, something peter obi also lacks

That is one big test ... all her life she was raised to bask in success, anything below 1st position to her feels like failure that she can't accept, she must have felt she let herself down, her family, and school. she is like a project everyone believed in, at that stage it difficult to see yourself FAIL, have being there


What complicated the matter is what she stands to gain with that result, which as started gaining sef .. so there is room for MOTIVE here

Between Mmiesoma and Jamb, only the gurl stands to benefit from any angle we chose to look at it.
Prof oloyede became VC at the time i got admission into unilorin .. we saw shege both student & lecturer we hated him becos he is a very credible fellow, zero tolerance to malpractice. he even gave us school uniform .. breaks down crying 😭

Nakedtruths:
"As prescribed by INEC" is real time transmission of results not prescribed by INEC in its guidelines?. Oga nobody is contesting outcome of election, no one is saying TINUBU did not win,(if INEC said so) the question is, how did he win. If INEC guidelines state that election would be transmitted in real time and did not do that, is that not a violation it's guidelines?. Use your coconut head to think. Your eyes is on the final results, our eyes is on the process that led to the final results. You see that's the difference.
YOU SOLVE MATHS AND GET THE ANSWER, BUT WURUWURU TO THE ANSWER WON'T BE ACCEPTED.

INEC prescribed two options, electronic transmission or Transfer i.e manual

clause 38 of inec regulation speculate upon completion of voting & announcing results at the polling units the presiding officer shall

electronically transmit or transfer the results from polling units to the collation system as prescribed by INEC

"OR" denotes transfer is an alternative, so you & your likes need to stop arguing as if electronic transmission was the only option enlisted.

There are toyota suv that have two gears, automatic and manual, the driver can decide to use anyone and the car will give same outcome. those options by design makes whatever the driver do justifiable

Question of the day : is IREV a collation system ??

Racoon:
Oga Seunmsg I saw you peep @ the thread and then disappeared without making a mention. Guess you were listing the numbers of witnesses the LP were able to present during the trial as under sufficient?

Don't you think INEC defending this gross criminality of a 2023 presidential election ought to have had a full retinue of many witnesses against the gamut of allegation bedevilling it from the Peter Obi camp?

Truth does not do "Crowd"

Truth is uninformed

If there is something the witness said that contradict INEC stands so far, bring it up here

Scrutinize everything INEC witness said and tell us which one is not TRUE.

Nakedtruths:
Imagine this for a second, the witness is an ICT expert, what is his business with form ec8, which is manual. What is his job in INEC for 24 years, when the result from his expertise is blurry.

And how many times will INEC have to ring into una coconut head ... the election process was Manual

Clause 38 both (i) & (ii) made emphasis on "as prescribed by the commission"

if INEC prescribed a manual collation process and OBI is tackling the ICT route is that not a journey in futility,

Finally, all the results you find on IREV are taking by BVAS camera, its just like your phone camera, sometimes you take a shot nd you find it burry could be as a result of stains on the camera or the camera not well set.
Before you question the ICT or server, check the primary source i.e the BVAS, if it is clear on the Bvas and blurry on IREV portal that is were ICT as some explanation to do

DMerciful:
Who cares if you bend or not!

IREV is required during collation to crosscheck results esp when party agents disagree

Good, so where are the evidences that juxtapose discrepancies between the ECA8 and IREV

I followed OBI via IAMV thread knowing he was Bias just so i won't miss a thing

OBi lawyers have closed there case, without juxtaposing the discrepancies with a side by side samples of EC8A vs IREV thats what it should have being

You voted, what you saw on the IREV portal is it different from what you recorded, how come people shouting rigging can't flood social media with their evidences, #what you recorded vs what's on the IREV

DMerciful:
You dont know what IREV is meant for. I won't engage an ignorant fellow

INEC PROF. why not quote the section of electoral act that upholds IREV ... so that ignorant people can learn

The way Obedient are going about the IREV you will think it is there father Peter OBi that proposed and fought for its implementation.

IF TINUBU lose make i bend

Lastma and FRSC Penalty/fines are different

lastma own wicked


https://nigerianinfopedia.com/lagos-traffic-offences-and-penalties-full-list/

Novarisammy2:
Clause 48 of the INEC Regulation
reveals the status of the electronically
transmitted election results, where
incorrectness is identified by the
collation officer, with a similar purpose
identified under Clause 51, which states
that discrepancies in a result submitted
by the presiding officer to the Ward
Collation Officer will be resolved using
the electronic result to identify the
source of the discrepancy. The clause
states that the result that is
electronically transmitted will be
employed for the purpose of collation
and announcement of result. Therefore,
in a situation of incorrectness or
suspicion of manipulation, the
electronically transmitted result
supersedes other forms of result
appearing before the collation officer.
Electronic Transmission and Other

culled from premium times
march 23rd, 2023

go and read it up

Oga !! what that clause is addressing is a situation where there is discrepancies between the polling unit and at the ward centre collation unit,
the presiding officier from the polling unit and collation officier will review the discrepancies with electronic result, i.e check what was snapped by the Bvas and rectify AT WARD LEVEL. as primary source what is on the BVAS is what will definitely be seen on IREV

We have four coalition stage, polling units 2 ward 2 local govt 2 state then 2 National




Section 64 subservient to section 47 (2) are the only Guide of the collation of results

dubra:
This is to show you the level of hatred and jealousy against the igbo people in this country, anambra has always remains on top in academic in this country and this time around they wanted to rig it like they did against Peter obi, what a shame

To Gain what ?

dem swear for you people with victim & tribal card, why will a whole Jamb be after such a poor girl ...
There is no limit to numbers of student that can score high mark in jamb, if 500 do well to score 380/400 jamb has no restriction.

You are just brainless that why you will Obi case into these

DMerciful:
Party agents can be compromised besides Mahmmud never listened to party agents when they were protesting. IREV ensures transparency and also ensures everyone can view it making it impossible to alter the results once uploaded.

Why are you still stuck in manual when things are being digitized? That's because you have intention for fraud knowing your candidate cannot win a truly transparent election

The Purpose of the IREV was not for the collation process or for collation of results,

The IREV was design as a verification centre for electorates to check & verify result posted at the polling units matches what was announced at our respective polling units,

The presidential election is 4months gone, so far how many electorates have come out to juxtapose altered result with evidences, both atiku & obi failed to bring witness/electorates that can show evidences of what they recorded and the lies they found on irev
kate henshaw, psquare, Mr macaroni,charly boy and most of us on NL have checked our polling units on the IREV portal ...nobody is talking becos the result matched trust me.

I challenge any Obedient to show us how his/her polling unit was altered, alot of youths did video recording at the polling units, tell us what you recorded is not what yu saw on IREV.
my polling unit results & irev matched

Bobloco:
So these are the much talked about Tinubu's best brains

Just 3 names besides its just a rumor and you already wailing, where you expecting to see wole soyinka or your university lecturers on the list

In Nig. ministerial list is use to compensate majorly politicians and loyals, don't expect much, thank God BAT made a wonderful list of Advisers.

Kossyso:
We are humans and not animals. Even animals do take care of their own. Empathy is synonymous to being human so it's not out of place to show empathy to the affected.
See my brother, Nigerian government always look for an easy way out as opposed to finding a better and sustainable ways to tackle a situation just to make sure that there is something left to enter their pocket at the end of the day.
It's more economical for whomever that is in charge to bring bulldozer and demolish the whole place, leave it bare and siphon the remaining funds than to find a way to channel the floods properly to a place where it will have no or less effect. Yes some buildings will definitely give way yet a thoughtful government will employ the services of engineers to examine the estate and map out a better way to construct drainages. I don tire to speak grammar my dear but I strongly insist that demolition should be the last option.

Like i said, you are making these all about empathy but there is a level to everything,

I don't see why any normal human will be looking for the hard way out, so its understandable when the govt looks for easy way out.
i know an area where anytime rain falls heavy for hrs, the whole house becomes flooded and you will see the occupants hanging around ... what kind of life is that, i keep wondering how people willingly pay money to buy such land and i get furious becos i can"t just bear such discomfort for a day not to talk of years they have being there.

Govt have so much responsibility on it neck,such that you can creat problem for yourself and be expecting govt to come and brainstorm how to solve the problem you created.
There are town planners and the guide lines are clear, you can even hire a surveyor before you pay for any land, its an achievement to own a land in these part of the world but do what will give you peace both on short & long run.

Govt has no sides, there duty is to that which is best for all whether we like it or not

pocohantas:
They will come and ask you if women no dey sick. Whereas majority of the time, it is most likely their father with diabetes, stroke or hypertension.

Olu Jacobs is down with dementia and we have seen way too many Nollywood actors die. My elder brother is married and when he is sick, it has never occured to me to go carry him or pander to him. But when his wife is ill, her family immediately swings in. The next morning, either her mother or sister MUST show. Based on firsthand experience, I will never judge any woman that prefers having her people around.

Maybe Men end up with all kind of sickness at old age as a result of women's efforts or signature, who knows
it is not today we've seen or heard women brag how they will delightly slow poison there husband to death if he is cheating or whatever. even you pocohuntas have bragged about slow poison recipes here ...
Women stand to Benefit more when the Man dies, as next in command or as next of kin, she finally get to "Control" like she as be aiming for years, nobody get satisfied with 2nd position

However, Women are caregivers, naturally females have the leverage thats why if you visit any hospital you are most likely to meet females nurses only frm reception to wards while the male nurses hide in the theatre or anesthesia dept.

From my local observation, single dads seems to live much longer than married men that spend most of there lives eating one woman recipe chioma is silence now only God knows the kind of recipe in her mind, chef tun lo omo 🤣🤣

Kossyso:
I am not in the best position to prefer a solution for the government but I will suggest they engage with the residents of the estate, hear their opinions, and what they think will be done to help their situation. Government can as well provide them with options like relocating them to another area. It's high time we start considering the plight of our citizens the way other developed countries does. These are hard times and any decisions that will affect the livelihood of our citizens ought to come with a cushioning effect. Some kind of palliative.

You are only bringing the empathy angle, and you are sounding like it is govt fault that people with open eyes go n buy land in wrong places. they ignore warnings

Nigerians are very funny people, you will see people build houses in wrong places and keep bribing govt officials to sustain the project but when Govt finally decide to do the needful becos the project pose a threat the people will that claiming Victim"

You can't build houses on water channel then start play the empathy card online, it is the responsibility of govt to take tough decisions people don't want to take esp. when its comes to securing lives.

You go build house under high tension and you are speaking big grammar should find a solution for you .. like srsly

Cooly100:
I will list just 4.

1. Turnkey flyovers Ijora apapa axis, Surulere to Ikeja. Oshodi Apapa road and other high way and other roads...

2. MMIA Lagos

3. Apapa port. Tin can port.

4. Third mainland bridge the is the biggest investment yet. It worths more than 1 trillion naira in today's market.

You Ilorin man ..stop dragging Lagos...Drag with your state.

You made a wrong list,

1. Flyover is not a necessity esp. in states with less commuters or traffic .. however kaduna has kawo flyover about 800m distance which has dual carriage and three ground rotaries that FG flyovers in lagos do not have

2. Are you aware asides Kaduna having an international airport, the Air force institute of technology is instituted in kaduna, all trained pilot in Nigeria graduated from kaduna Airforce base

3. Bridges are capital infrastructure not an imvestment, besides you forgot 3rd mainland bridge is a construction that sits on a pacific, does kaduna need a 3rd mainland bridge project ... fvcking NO

4. Does kaduna have any pacific shores to host a PORT ... Fvcking No

I will like to see a List of infrastructural projects suitable for kaduna but are not in kaduna that you can find in lagos

Believeintruth:
Again you are not being realistic here. The tokunbo cars cost 4.5m right. Please show me an innoson vehicle of that same price if it is noteworthy to use.

Here you have it

a4cube:
Why can't he has a distribution network for the car parts.

Did you call or have anyone that called innoson to be major distributor and IVM decline, manufacturers like that are open to distributors & dealer But the problem is nobody wants to deal with a product that has very low demand.

Acceptances is what generate distribution network, until innoson get *ACCEPTANCE 1st"

Believeintruth:
Guy stop capping abeg, can an average man even with vehicle financing afford a low end innoson saloon car? Haba why are you guys vigorously trying to defend the government's nonsense and I'll thought policies.

Capping ke, technically cost of production in Nig is high for those in that line, lets be sincere innoson cars can't be cheaper than they are.
An average naija man drives toyota muscle, corrola these cars are above 10yrs but a naija man is ready to splash 4.5m on a toyota than buy a teae nylon carris of same price.

It is not really about affordability when it comes to foreign and naija made cars ... taste is the decider most times.

That i am not blaming or cursing the govt does not mean i am defending the govt, however in subject matters like what we are discussing the behavior of the Buyer/consumers gives a precognition that is key to everything.

Nteogwuija:
I think the government can solve that. I don't know if there's a possibility of the government banning the importation of tokumbo vehicles. Imagine if this were the case, don't u think Nigerians might start looking towards Innoson?

Govt can't restrict more than they've already implemented .. the high import duties are suppose to disuade foreign apetite but it is not working because our borders are porous and customs are corrupt, naa money e go chop
moreover foreign product are much more available than local goods in our market


The fact that it is more costlier to produce goods locally in Nigeria is not making the price of local product sound like life saving e.g the price between a Nig bag of rice & foreign rice is not disausive enough.
Govt has to implement policies that will guarantee availability and subsidize raw materials for local manufacturers

PRICE and AVAILABILITY are machineries for hijacking the market.

easytig:
Innoson cars ,the parts no dey market lol, besides the brand new are quite pricey,will rather get a tokunbo Toyota or Hyundai wey parts dey yafun yafun,than innoson.

Open market you mean, cos if you are so serious about getting a innoson part i am 100% sure you can get it from the manfacturer since they are in Nigeria ... besides if not for a careless drive a new car can last 8yrs without changing any part asides brake, oil filter and Oil.

If you can find innoson motor in the Open market it is becos there are no scraps, 2010 my father bought hyundia it was difficult accessing parts but demand as increase over time you can now find hyundia part easily, if the demand increase for innoson motors today open market will adopt the brand..

#Market serves demands

Macphenson:
Have you provided enabling environment for production?.

Wheres the power?

Where are roads?

Wheres the security?

Yeye dey smell.

Is it really about enabling environment or Nigerians just have a sucker taste for foreign made goods

Enabling environment or Not innoson motors are producing locally designed sleek cars at cheap price compared to foreign tokunbo cars but yet a Nigeria prefer to go spend #10m on toyata or honda tokunbo than buy a brand new innoson saloon.

If innoson could get power to produce any other competitors will find power tew

There is no part of Nigeria you want to send goods via road that it won't get there .. except you are not ready or serious about it.
We might not have the best of roads but there are roads connecting enough.

Asides farmers threatened by insurgence, there are merely no industries or companies threatened by insecurity.

Demand & taste are major determinant factors of production, But Nigerians will always pick foreign over locally made

reiddecuti:
If you look well, you go see say na Yoruba dey kick against the old man bcoz say na their own dey power.


Politics of tribalism don hudwink this country...

And so far, asides the Igbos who else is calling for Nigeria to burn, why do igbos believe so much in the artistry of "Burn" ..chinedu also made similar inflamatory statement on the eve he lost

An elderly man made a statement that can disrupt public peace and your biggest problem is those criticize and condemning it. clown