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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People Fear Death, Yet It's The Way To Heaven? by chieveboy(m): 5:05pm On Mar 18, 2024

justlove91:
You mean the moment I realize I'm dreaming I'm already in heaven??

Heaven has many levels. Unfortunately the Christian Bible offers little information on this other than Paul hinting at it when he said he was taken to the Third one.

To answer your question, any dream you have is 95% like occurring in the fort heaven and you don't need to be aware you're dreaming for this to be true.

The first heaven births physical reality, hence the similarity in appearance. Talking to people in dreams in places that looks 100% earth is talking to same person's albeit from the other side of existence.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People Fear Death, Yet It's The Way To Heaven? by chieveboy(m): 10:48am On Mar 18, 2024

blueAgent:
Yeah, Internet and AI, but the truth is those information were uploaded by ppl who were influenced by their feelings or cultural beliefs.

There is no evidence of what you or those ppl claim in the Bible.

Since when did the Bible became a book of scientific standard?

I suppose Joseph's dreams and interpretation of people's dreams are his personal feelings too.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People Fear Death, Yet It's The Way To Heaven? by chieveboy(m): 11:16pm On Mar 17, 2024

blueAgent:
Which fact?

Proven by who?

That you're asking means it's going to be a difficult job for me...

I will conserve energy for now.

Meanwhile we're in the age the age of the Internet and a nascent AI. Don't let those go to waste.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People Fear Death, Yet It's The Way To Heaven? by chieveboy(m): 8:49pm On Mar 17, 2024

blueAgent:
All this are your personnel feelings, not facts or is there any evidence.

This is a subject with proven scientific fact.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People Fear Death, Yet It's The Way To Heaven? by chieveboy(m): 8:41pm On Mar 17, 2024

blueAgent:
Of course ppl have dreams, but no one has been to heaven weather through dream or trance.

That's what we're saying. The exact place s people have dreams at are actually part of the heavens.

People have been to grander heavens in dreams than the mundane ones or parts mist people will rather not refer to as a heaven. But then, it is what it is.

The conscious and unconscious heaven visitors are mostly the inventors of all our tech, philosophy and all.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People Fear Death, Yet It's The Way To Heaven? by chieveboy(m): 6:29pm On Mar 17, 2024

blueAgent:
Pure Wishful thinking.

No evidence or facts in your comments.

Indeed, no evidence for people having dreams when they sleep. It's subjective.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People Fear Death, Yet It's The Way To Heaven? by chieveboy(m): 1:23pm On Mar 17, 2024

Religious confusion, ignorance and fear are the answer.

This subject leaves the average religionist dazed from the back and forth involved. He thanks God every morning for not allowing him to die to go to heaven to be with him and also ask God to not let him die...Huh huh

My spiritual path teaches you that you can visit heaven even before you die. This is because these so-called heavens are not designations and destinations outside of yourself.

Everyone is literally an intricate composite of all of the heavenly worlds. "Heaven is within you".

You learn the subtle art of dying daily which everyone does naturally anyways and calls it "a dream". The next phase is to be conscious in dreams and you have visited a heaven of your choice.

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Christianity Etc › Re: South African Church Seen Worshipping God In Style. Video by chieveboy(m): 8:47am On Mar 17, 2024

Divine locomotion.

The other mummy is not doing it right, her head is shaking cheesy

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Will Happen To Anyone Who Rejects The Words Of Jesus On Judgement Day by chieveboy(m): 8:39am On Mar 17, 2024

Absolutely nothing.

Christians who die and cross the borders are usually surprised and shocked at what they find in the inner worlds.

Most don't even know that they are no longer on earth due to how smooth the transition went and the similarities of where they left versus where they are.

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Christianity Etc › Re: ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-east Sub-regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar. by chieveboy(op): 10:42am On Mar 10, 2024

Depriest2020:
Am a bit loss here. Is it the normal dreams we usually had that you're referring to here?

Yes. When people put their bodies to sleep, they themselves venture out to other world's and destinations on the physical and beyond.

Our normal dreams are us visiting other places 'leaving' our bodies behind.

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Christianity Etc › Re: ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-east Sub-regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar. by chieveboy(op): 10:23am On Mar 10, 2024

Depriest2020:
That's interesting. It would be adventurous to visit heaven and other planets.

Please have you had the opportunity of visiting other planets? What's the experience like? Are there people living there or Aliens, what are they like?

Lol, I do this everyday. So do you and everyone else.

The question is which part of heaven, and how conscious where you.

Any dream you have is an experience in one of the heavens. The lack of clarity is a function of state of consciousness among other factors.

Sometimes, it only takes an interest in visiting a heaven of planet for it to be more clearer. Your love for this venture and relentlessness can make it happen wether you belong in a religion or not.

These places are already within us. Everything and everywhere is here and now. Space, distance and time are all not real in the real sense of things

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Christianity Etc › Re: ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-east Sub-regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar. by chieveboy(op): 10:10am On Mar 10, 2024

Depriest2020:
Really? People visit inner heavens and planets? That's the kind of experience I wanna have.

Please is it true that it's difficult to quit ECKANKAR when you get to that level?

Yes, people visit other planets and heavens. But this experience is not exclusive to ECK students. What's keeping people is just a believe that it's impossible or that it's sinful.

Millions of people drop from following the Eck teachings, as in the physical organization .

'ECK' being the word for "Holy Spirit" the very power which creates and sustains all things, where no one and nothing can exist without this force. It begs the question: can someone say they can 'leave' ECK?

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Christianity Etc › Re: ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-east Sub-regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar. by chieveboy(op): 9:56am On Mar 10, 2024

Depriest2020:
Is it true that there are secrets when you gets deeper? I've been curious to know.

The only secret are the individual experiences of the students. Their experiences when they visit the inner heavens, planets or daily events which they prefer to keep personal.

Other than that, you can buy the complete Eckankar Bible and other books and see everything.

You are even given the bottom-pot prayer to use in your first visit. You decide whether to try or not, come back or not.

Christianity Etc › Re: ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-east Sub-regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar. by chieveboy(op): 9:42am On Mar 10, 2024

Depriest2020:
ECKANKAR and Grail Message and Brotherhood of the 7 Stars na where I wan try make I know how far.

First you need to know what you want.

You can try ECKANKAR if your goal is making God an every-day reality in your life.

Christianity Etc › Re: ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-east Sub-regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar. by chieveboy(op): 8:55am On Mar 10, 2024

When joining, remember to use the passcode 076107 when printed for it.

Enjoy!

Christianity Etc › Re: ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-east Sub-regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar. by chieveboy(op): 8:53am On Mar 10, 2024

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Christianity Etc › ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-east Sub-regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar. by chieveboy(op): 8:40am On Mar 10, 2024

*INVITATION TO AN ECK LIGHT AND SOUND SERVICE*

Dear Blessed One,

*ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2024 South-East Sub-Regional ECK Soul Adventure Seminar, Enugu,* cordially invites you to an *Online HU Song and ECK Light and Sound Service* scheduled as follows:

*Date: Sunday, March 10, 2024*

*Venue (In-Person): _Amadeo Event Centre, Ebeano Tunnel Road, Enugu_*

*Time:*
*_i. HU Song: 8.00am to 8.30am_*
*_ii. ECK Light and Sound Service: 9.00am to 10.15am_*

*Theme of ECK Light and Sound Service:* *_Being Grateful is Being Godly._*

*Officiator:* *Nduka Nwagbo,* _Guest Speaker_

You may attend any or both events online via zoom by clicking on the link below. *The Online Platform opens at 07.45 am:*

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/89316020838?pwd=Bcx7lEwsb0RbSnav7oubYM0hLhndMH.1

You may also log in using the following details:

*Meeting ID: 893 1602 0838
Passcode: 076107*

Please, you may forward this invitation to anyone who is interested in attending these ECK events.

For further inquiry, please contact any of the following:

08055419511
Regional Vahana Team Leader

or

08066580742
Regional Seminar Coordinator

*USER GUIDE:*
1. Remember that your comments are public. ECKANKAR is not responsible for any use that may be made of the personal information you share.
2. Please do not share anything that may be viewed as inappropriate, offensive, or defamatory.
3. This discussion does not necessarily reflect the views, beliefs, or ideals of ECKANKAR.
4. To any international guests: This event is not intended for anyone who is barred by the laws of their country from attending. Please follow the laws of your home country.

*This event is sponsored by ECKANKAR Nigeria Satsang Society, a Chartered Affiliate of ECKANKAR.*

_*Copyright ©️ 2023 ECKANKAR. All rights reserved. The terms ECKANKAR, ECK, EK, MAHANTA, SOUL TRAVEL, and VAIRAGI, among others, are trademarks of ECKANKAR, P.O. Box 2000, Chanhassen, MN 55317-2000, USA*_

*INNOCENT EGBUH*
*_FOR TECHNICAL SUPPORT._*

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Jokes Etc › Re: What Is This Nairalander Up To by chieveboy(op): 8:57am On Mar 07, 2024

NoSmoking:
C Wahala o

🥵

Jokes Etc › Re: What Is This Nairalander Up To by chieveboy(op): 8:56am On Mar 07, 2024

judgementyard:
C wetin I wan un c

Nice one lol

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Jokes Etc › What Is This Nairalander Up To by chieveboy(op): 7:54pm On Mar 06, 2024

What do you think?

Christianity Etc › Re: Indeed. by chieveboy(m): 7:45pm On Feb 24, 2024

elated177:
Could you throw more light on the forces of nature as you mentioned below?

Hi,

'Forces of nature when not generalized are parts of creation which serve notable purpose. They exist to serve Souls (Men) or better put: they exist because Souls exists.

These are different from discarnate entities which the church call demons. Like the name implies, a discarnate entity is any person who had died on earth but hangs around to look for ways to enjoy earthly life via people who have not died. The place they hang around at is a world that is in between the physical and the pure astral. It's just a short rotation from physical...

Another category of the above are souls who might not have lost a body in death, but can be termed 'discarnate entities ' are those who chose to dwell in the lower astral world owing to lack of spiritual development.

These ones and the those who have lived in a human body before are patronized by many earthlings. They are prayed to and do have power to answer the prayer. Some of them are powerful while others are as vulnerable as weakness itself.

Both the forces of nature and also "demons" are used for power by men. Anyone who patronises them pays dearly and it's not funny at all.

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Christianity Etc › Re: As The TB Joshua Damage Control Campaign Commences... by chieveboy(op): 4:03pm On Feb 24, 2024

RenaissanceMann:
I'd like to talk to you, please.

How can I reach you? It's important.

Thank you.

Hi, you can send me a DM please. Thanks

Politics › Re: Naira Weakens As Banks’ Dollar Sales Plunge By $252m by chieveboy(m): 1:01pm On Feb 19, 2024

Ogiame:
That's the reason I gave you the warning.... Look next time.

I don't welcome silly comments in my mention.

Oh, I am a very rugged Obidient.

Au revoir CLOWN 🤡

Oh I see.

I agree it's silly...

Politics › Re: Naira Weakens As Banks’ Dollar Sales Plunge By $252m by chieveboy(m): 12:53pm On Feb 19, 2024

Ogiame:
Your ignorance is powered by the sun.

Always look at the monikers you quote before you drop your comment

Are you one--"An Obidient"?

While you seem to hint at being an intellectual, your response is rather Obidient I'm sorry.

I am indeed powered by the sun by all standards.

Politics › Re: Naira Weakens As Banks’ Dollar Sales Plunge By $252m by chieveboy(m): 12:41pm On Feb 19, 2024

Ogiame:
“We need his BRAIN not his BODY”

“He has been planning for prezidensi since 20 yaaz”

“He built Lagos with half bag of cement and Tamed the pacific Ocean”

“He has First Class degree in Akantin”

“Jagaban is a Master strategist, Obi is a mere trader”

All these and many more were said by his clownish supporters.

See how our Naira and Economy is nose diving... It is safe to call Tinubu an Ineffectual incompetent buffoon.

I may be wrong on this, but I think it would have been worse under Obi. There is currently no magic anyone can do economically to salvage the Naira while floating it or paying subsidy given our balance of trade and other economic factors.

If we remove the 'Economics' side of this consideration hence, we'll be left with that of politics. Politically, Obi would not be able to handle what the good, bad and ugly actors in and out of government would throw at him to frustrate his governance.

There would have been riots by now IMHO.

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Family › Re: My Friend's Father Is A Ghost!! by chieveboy(m): 8:13am On Feb 18, 2024

tianshie:
Not quite. When I was a kid in the late 80s I'd see posters on the wall with the words: ECKANCKAR. WHAT IS IT?

Its a spiritual study. The word consists of two words: ECK and ANKAR. The former means the Life Force and the later "The way".

Politics › Re: Hundreds Of Youths Protest Against Police Brutality In Delta State (Photos) by chieveboy(m): 12:42pm On Feb 15, 2024

naturalman:
Police steal because they are not being paid well by criminal politicians.....protest against the root cause and not the act

What a logic.

All other government workers are "under paid". Let the stealing spread around then.

Christianity Etc › Re: Cosmic Silence: The Absence Of Planetary Mention In Christianity by chieveboy(m): 3:55pm On Feb 11, 2024

Dtruthspeaker:
And the topic isnt about earth.

Lol, you obviously didn't get that statement.

Christianity Etc › Re: Cosmic Silence: The Absence Of Planetary Mention In Christianity by chieveboy(m): 3:45pm On Feb 11, 2024

Dtruthspeaker:
This thread answers you.

https://www.nairaland.com/7988724/moon-shrinking-researchers-reveal-reasons#128247191

11:20am On Feb 02
What is our problem if the moon is shrinking.
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Re: Moon Is Shrinking, And Researchers Reveal Reasons by WayStage(m): 11:56am On Feb 02
Moon is shrinking? Who observe am abeg? Wetin concern the observer?
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Re: Moon Is Shrinking, And Researchers Reveal Reasons by ironheart(m): 11:56am On Feb 02
Na dollar dey worry us. We never eat well to think of moon
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Re: Moon Is Shrinking, And Researchers Reveal Reasons by Vlibray: 11:56am On Feb 02
Wetin we dey find for moon 😒

Amazing. The spiritual walk is an active path and not a passive one. You want to "seek knowledge in all thy seeking" so that you don't go about cause nuisance online by labeling people and things you don't know as demonic or wicked.

Ignorance is actually what's wicked...its the motor that drives your engine, hence you can't stand any form of information beyond the Bible.

This reminds me of how the parable of the sower is actually on this exact type of Christians. Left to you, you will stop all others making any effort of finding why they are on earth.

How you believe all chapters are closed on life in the Bible and how you attack others actively pursuing the spiritual life beyond the limited pages of Luke and Paul in form of science, mysticism and even Atheism is really a folly.

Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongues Vs Singing Charged Frequencies (sounds) by chieveboy(op): 3:13pm On Feb 11, 2024

There is the Source Frequency or Sound. This is the God frequency which forks into other frequencies to build, sustain and change the worlds of creation and beyond.

Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongues Vs Singing Charged Frequencies (sounds) by chieveboy(op): 10:19am On Feb 11, 2024

What and why then do others would rather repeat sound frequencies instead of verbally asking or directing God or it's power up and down with force and quarel?

Nikolai Tesla succinctly says why: " If you want to find the secret of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration".

If you are a Christian especially, right now, you will think this is nonsense. But then the man just gave you the secret to the Holy Spirit or God you are running after.

What is making you think it's nonsense is that 'Mental Groove" and " brain circuitry' I spoke of earlier. Call it 'indoctrination" if you like...

Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongues Vs Singing Charged Frequencies (sounds) by chieveboy(op): 10:13am On Feb 11, 2024

I had tried the HU ("Hue" wink

sound repetition rather sceptically. I was wary of not calling the name of any other being not Jesus.

Was I getting it wrong? My experiences how ever proved my suspicion unfounded. I would dream of beautiful places and scenery and report some here on Nairaland to the author of the thread.

This is not to mention revelatory dreams. One of which was about the pulpit of a veru famous Nigerian black magician who came in the name of Jesus on TV. You know him...

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