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Peledonomy:
Well sir. I can see that you are ready to learn. Quickly jump to living word media and feed on the numerous messages there. It will clear your doubts.

Eckankar dey play for wia enlightenment dey.

Yea, I expected a retreat.

illicit:
There's one called banilla

Local man

dalongjnr:
Every time, it's one allegation or the other, but it was never proven.
These allegations are fabricated or they are sponsored by the people who are surprised that his church is still standing, after his dead.

Did you watch the documentary? Have you been to the church before?

Peledonomy:
Oops. There is no hope for you Sir.

Kindly get a refund from all the schools you attended.

Oh, I see you're being impressed with highly intellectual performance .

You're really putting a show I assure you.

Did God write the book of isaiah? Did God use his hands to write those things?


Haba na. Everything in the Bible was documented by men. Men are fallible.

The only infallible personality in the Bible is Jesus.

Even angels are fallible.

The Bible is only true to the degree which it agrees to Jesus.

Wow, I never knew Christians could mention the writers of the bible were fallible.

1: So what of the writers of the the words attributed to Jesus?

2: What assurances do we have that Jesus actually said what he supposedly said and was written by fallible men?

Words like "he will save you from your sin and all that.

3: What does Jesus mean when he said he came to fulfill the law not abolish it?

Keywords: Fullfil and Abolish.

Jesus corrected Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Job, David, Solomon

Man. The list is endless.

He also upheld the truth in their teachings.

That is why the new testament tilts to the teachings of Jesus.

Infact, the new testament writings explains the old testament in the light of Christ.

The 'Fallible' factor applies here, what yardstick are we to use to determine which one is correct and which one was inserted by men.

So yea. Jesus corrected those statements they made on behalf of God.

So Bro relax. If na Bible u wan learn, I dey for u

1: Who or what authority compiled the Bible?

As in who said the holy book of another religion for instance (Judaism's Old Testament) be inserted into the Christian Bible? Because the Bible didn't exist in the time of Jesus.

Who made a list of the books to be compiled and be made the Holy Book of Christians?

Dtruthspeaker:
Every reasonable person can see thst I did not insult anybody up and down. It is the pain from the sword of Truth that is making you cry.

Secondly, if any Christian needed explanation he would ask questions but they don't which is why it is only you Satanists who are complaining here talking off point.

You don't have any valid thing to say here but to show the world that you are truly a Satan worshipper.

I agree with everything you said here

That your sword of truth is really sharp o

Peledonomy:
I never said he changes sir.

If Jesus comes to correct the Impression they had about God, it doesn't mean God changed. I thought you are smart sir.

They had a wrong impression, wrote things based on their impression, and Jesus came to correct them.

He came to show that rather than God killing, he would die for man.

Jesus changes everything they thought they knew about God.

If you don't know this, then you don't know the Bible.

Let's go over some elementary classes.

Oh okay, my apologies please. Let me try to be smart then

This means Jesus even came to correct the direct statements God made like in Isaiah 45:7 ?

Because that verse isn't like someone thought or assumed God said he created Evil and Destruction itself... it's written in the First-person tense.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you see yourself? Now you are switching post talking more rubbish.

Every reasonable person especially christians understands that life is stop and go, do and don't do, good and evil with their balance thereof but obviously since you Satanists are full of evil,and therefore lopsided and biased, therefore you can not understand balance nor understand life, so you people nearly always think and speak wrongly hence why reasonable people will call you people stupid.

Lol, I don't understand why you devolve to breaking more of Biblical Scripture by insulting up and down

You didn't make time to explain what Christians should do when there is an opportunity for amebo (gossip) and busy-body while calling it "bringing of light to evil..." and when someone is supposed to obey the scripture that says "Judge not". What should Christians do?

Jesus even went further to ask some group of randy Amebotic and idle busy-body guys who wanted to "bring light to the evil" of one woman in the bible by stoning her, he gave them a simple assignment and they all vanished.

Please edify us with the word of the Lord. I know it's upsetting but just try.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is it shocking that Satan worshippers like you Lie in defence of their twisting brother?

John 7:24/ Ephesians 5:11-12 are also in the bible and they were very clear and direct .Saying expose evil and judge righteously.

THIS JUDGMENT MATTER DEY PAIN DEVIL PEOPLE WELL WELL!

From the two contrasting scriptures, we have in our hands a case of contradiction. In this case, Christians are free to transgress either Scriptures.

Reminds me of the other religion. It says kill them all here, and leave them all in another. This breeds terrorism.

Peledonomy:
Well, if Jesus links back to the big man in Gen to malachi, it changes everything.


Look at what John will say after listening to jesus christ. He tries to correct the impression found in Isaiah 45 vs 7.

"He changeth not "

John 1:5-7 KJV
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Refer to the above please.

Peledonomy:
Chieveboy, I see what you are doing here. Trying to use the writings of the prophetic scriptures (gen to malachi) to whoop the assess of these folks.


Well, a lot of those places you are quoting were debunked by Jesus, John, and Paul.

By the way, you are right. God has no business with anger. Anywhere you see killings or anger in the scriptures, it wasn't God. It was the men exhibiting their emotions and calling it God.

I mean it's pretty obvious if you study Jesus or Paul.

Anyways flex ur win with these guys.

Well, if anything, Jesus links back to big man in Genesis-Mallachi doesn't he...that's by they way though because that doesn't change anything...

My major grouse is the ignorance involved in someone coming to force something I know to be several miles inferior to the truth I stand for down my throat.

No issues...none stood a chance after all...

Dtruthspeaker:
Thank God that every one can see that you are the devil, the twisting serpent who speaks!

I never even post the article o but see as devil don run come twist am!

Forget, that quote you're condemning is actually pointing your whole thread back at you, as far as those who follow bible
and your topic are concerned.

It's actually a classic display of the irony involved. A classic proverb has it that "Sin is a mountain that you have to stand on to see those of others".

Where is the twisting? The Bible was very clear and direct "Judge Not!...".

You transgressed the instruction by openly promoting the disobedience of that scripture and cynically failing at hoodwinking is to reason with you.

Lordreed caught you in the act by bringing your own devil to light and you are saying he twisted it . What do you Christians take people for

Sheh you see why they say "judge not"

sgtponzihater1:
The God of the Jews is the only God there is, all other Gods are the figment of human imagination. Any believe that seeks to elevate man beyond being a creature is of the devil.

There is only one creator and God, we as humans are His subject and creation.

Trampling God under foot in a quest for higher power walking on a slippery slope.

Fortunately, Eckankar doesn't place Soul above the Supreme Deity.

ItShallPass:
Smiling.

I have observed in this world that people know only within the parameters of their experiences. The ignorant do think he knows until he's proven otherwise.

This statement ironically defines you and all the ignorant statements and assertion you've been making here. You recall how you thought Eckankar was a person or deity ?

From our discussions, you've made reference to human godship severally. Are you saying it wasn't Eckankar that thought you so? Or you want to live in denial?

Why should I deny lol? Here again, you displayed stark ignorance of the whole point Jesus was trying to make his followers know which is that they are actually mini God. He expressly stated "...Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" (John 10:34).

I am sure you didn't make sense of that scripture. Your lot don't do well with understanding, they prefer religious/emotional banditry...

Perhaps you need to really study the Bible well and get the spirit of the letter and not the other way round.

don't All satanic religions give man some sense of godship. All what you call spirit guides and masters are all demons. I dwell in the Light and can tell you that categorically because I deal with demons. I cast them out of people in the mighty name of Jesus. What I'm saying to you is out of love for your soul. You've been deceived my brother.

Hahahaha, this is most hilarious. You sound like if you label anything satanic, I will scamper and hide .

Here is something you should do instead, go look for a big mirror. A very big one. Now stand before it and have a good look. Whatever you see is actually the "Satanic", it is what you should be casting actually.

I have explained Isaiah 45:7 severally in previous posts. I'm sure you're either not reading my responses or demons are working willy nilly to immediately steal the information from your heart.

You want me to explain Isaiah 45:7 again for the umpteenth time?

Yes, explain again because you never did. Screenshot and attach if you ever did.

Heck I doubt if you even can because you have serially demonstrated phenomenal levels of lack of comprehension of the Bible for starters not mention teaching it. Like I said, you kind do well in spiritual/religious banditry however.

You remind me of a friend back in school. If it's about praying funny and noisy prayer, you will think he is Zebrudaya the prophet, but Emeka come and preach, my guy went blank. He was really just pouring his ignorance into the ether and we thought he was a powerful Christian.

I also asked you what you personally know about the doctrines or anything else about Eckankar, clearly you don't know any!!!. So from what information are you attacking it? Answer is speculation and lots of ignorance. Yikes!

[quote author=ItShallPass post=127815699]Eckankar knows whom Jehovah truly is but Eckankar would lie to you about Jehovah
Please help me understand, Jehovah in Isaiah 45:7 expressly tells you he is actually the one who CREATED evil and destructive itself. How did ECKANKAR now lied about it ?

Okay here is what we should do: Interprete the chapter for us so we settle the matter.


quote]...He tries to let you see yourself as the god of yourself

Just look at stark ignorance. No wonder...so all this whole, you believe Eckankar was somebody ? This is actually the problem with you lot. You attack everything you don't know.

For your information, "ECK" means Holy Spirit, "Ankar" means the way.


[quote]while you deny your Creator and give honour to spirit beings whom God has made lesser than you. Did he not say the same thing to Eve? "If you eat this fruit, your eyes shall be opened (you would be enlightened), and you would be as gods...' It's the same old tactics. Nothing new. By preaching enlightenment and the opportunity to become a god to you, he steals you away from your Maker while also maligning your Creator unto you, denying His Godship and making a mockery of His love.

Your ignorance about the teachings of Eckankar indeed is legendary. My issue however is:

Question1: why did you chose to attack something based on ignorance?

Question 2:
What do you know about Eckankar?

God loves you nonetheless. No matter what Eckankar has told you, if you spread your hands to Jesus today, you would know the true God for yourself and discover that He is far fetched from all those things you have heard about Him.

Very funny. I can assure you that even the two-headed God you worship, you know absolutely nothing about him. It's all a matter of belief it is for you.

Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. The output for this disease is exactly what you have been spewing here. When Christianity drops this disease of ignorance, it will become this path that Jesus Christ walked and even more.

ItShallPass:
1. Stop sugar quoting the words. To disapprove of something to the extent of chastising a child about it means you actually dislike what the child is doing. You hate it. Do you disapprove of murder, armed robbery or infidelity? You actually hate them. Don't tell me you're simply not in agreement with those vices. You'll probably give up all you have to ensure your children don't do any of such . And you hate your excreta as well. I'm sure you wouldn't want it anywhere near your plate of food. This back and forth is unnecessary. It is very clear that emotions have context. And by their context, they could either be good or bad.

2. Again, hate, jealousy and anger are emotions defined within their contexts. Stop pretending you don't know. You were jealous over your wife, that's why you thought she might be done with her marriage to you a d so much leave in peace. You saw also the good that can be derived from destruction when destroying the unpleasant to plant the pleasant. And of cause anger too can be used as a motivational force to right wrongs. Hate the evil but love the good. The emotions are only defined within contexts and you have been unable to disprove me contextually.

3. Eckankar did not write Isaiah 45:7 but deceitfully interpreted it. I have given you the right interpretation. A nice King, no matter how nice he is, would have both prisons and banqueting halls. A king is a judge in his own land. How much more the King of kings? The judge of the whole earth has light for the law keepers and darkness for law breakers. Good for those who do well, a evil for the evil workers.

4.


If you're saying using jealousy, anger and hate to perpetrate an act is evil, then you're talking within specific contexts. Now, within a specific context of rebuilding your home, you have see
the positive sides of destruction. Myy argument with you are based on jealousy, anger and hate alone because these 3 have contextual derivations just like destruction. Unlike Evil and Envy whose contexts are 100% unacceptable.

5.

Would you show me proof that the Almighty God did this? Give me biblical accounts where God Almighty ordered mass murders over jealousy, anger and hate.

Man does evil out of his own volition. God never said He created evil. Stop reading the Bible upside down. 'I the Lord do all these things' is not the same as 'I the Lord created all these things '. God was talking about what He does to the righteous and wicked. He wasn't talking about what He created.

6.

Man does not own the world as well as his own breath. He's free to worship whosever he wills to worship but in the end he'll be accountable to the 'He' who created the Universe and owns it. He'll be accountable to the One who gave him the breath of his nostrils.

Again, any god that cannot judge the righteous and the wicked is not the Creator of this world and therefore does not deserve to be worshipped.

Before Isaiah 45:7 was written, Eckankar knows who Jehova truly is.

Now that your eyes are clearly you want to really start asking serious questions about what you think you knew .


I rest my case.

Dtruthspeaker:
The only True meaning is it's noun meaning which is the practice and study and use of witchcraft which you have proven you and your group of secrets society teach. All the other meanings are shits used to cover people like you and your group who wish topractice witchcraft..

And Jesus did not do this

Noun
mystical, supernatural, or magical powers, practices, or phenomena.
"a secret society to study alchemy and the occult"

I see.

Dtruthspeaker:
Continue blaspheming

Tell me Jesus didn't exhibit any of the qualities in the below definition of occult

ProudWitch:
You're welcome.


Okay, so I started my spiritual journey last year, I tried meditating and I saw the impact, it was nice. But I wasn't consistent and the type of environment I find myself in doesn't make it easy to focus most times. So I thought, okay, when I leave my environment I'll start my spiritual journey afresh. But I keep craving that deep knowledge almost everyday, so I've decided that I shouldn't have to wait till I leave now, I could learn now and practice later.

So far, all I've done is meditating.

Oh cool. Try the HU sound singing (pronounced "Hue) in a long drawn-out manner. Try to put your attention or all of you in the spiritual eye area. Do this for 30min max before sleep.

You don't have to sing it aloud if there are people that may be disturbed.

It is way more advanced than meditation. If you have a profound experience, you want to write it down so get a diary app or a book for recording them.

Please note your experiences are confidential to you. Only share if it's absolutely necessary.

Cheers

[quote author=ItShallPass post=127796106]But, why chastise a child if you do not hate what the child is doing? You chastise the child because you love the child and hate the wrong things the child is doing.

I donts hate what the child is doing. I disapprove or simply do not agree or want to encourage that. Please look up the definition of "Hate".

You're talking about habitual irresponsible emotions. The type of emotions you described above are contextual.

No, it doesn't have to be habitual. "It's my first time" and you're caught right in the act. Anger, Hate and other strong negative emotions is their spiritual battery. This is what Jesus means by the "the devil is roaming about looking for whom to devour". The demons lurk around people looking for any given chance.

Contrary to what Eckankar told you about the Creator of the universe in relation to Isaiah 45:7,[quote]Oga hold it dia . Contrary to what contrary? The Bible said it's God is the very creator of good and evil itself and you want to white wash again is the biblical God not God and Satan

[quote]I have given you a heads-up to make you see the lie in Eckankar's version.

When did Eckankar wrote Isaiah 45:7? What lie is it when Eckankar corroborates Isaiah 45:7?

You've not answered the questions I asked you regarding this section of the discussion. Would call a judge evil for condemning a law breaker to prison?

You're funny. We're saying using anger, hate, jealousy and envy to conduct or perpetrate an act is what amounts to "evil". In your next response, please Get yourself a dictionary and give us the definition of Evil, Jealousy, Hate, Envy and Anger.

If a judge passes a sentence, he isn't doing that angrily. If I uproot weed I am not doing it out of jealousy, anger or hate, neither is the judge in that court room of yours above.

It is a different ball game entirely if a judge maliciously or out of jealousy sentences one, or I put of hate or anger uproot that very earlier weed.

Now if you say the Lord ordered mass murder, who are those concerned? The righteous or the wicked? Is it wrong for God to judge evil doers?

Ordering mass murder even by man's standard over jealousy, anger or hate is babaric. It's more so if you consider that he created the very evil (Isaiah 45:7) he is murdering people over. What's the idea?

Man in civilized and spiritually matured setting gave the freedom of worship and belief to all.

ProudWitch:
Hi. You're a sweet person.

I understand you.

Thank a lot

So mind telling us what you have done regarding your ques?

Personally I have shared my stories on my quest for enlightenment here on Nairaland.

The most powerful tool I have yet used is the use of Sounds while fixing my attention on the spiritual area.

There is the "Ohm" sound used by Buddhists and the HU sound mostly shared by Eckankar my current spiritual school.

ProudWitch:
Ha, finally! I'm looking for occultic threads that doesn't deal with black magic; the type of threads that talks on enlightenment. And please ignore my username, I'm not a real witch.

Thank you!

Hi, you're welcome. I don't mind even if you're one. Everyone is loved the same by the creator.

On enlightenment, I suppose we could talk about ways to reach it not downplaying the fact that for most, it can be instantaneous depending on their distinct spiritual evolution of millions of lifetimes while it may come in small doses for some.

FRANCISTOWN:
The guy should read a book titled : The occultic Grand Master now in Christ Jesus.

Man! I don read nonsense for this life sha

Christians firstly threw away Judaism the very religion Jesus practiced.

If they are present the occult group who taught him before his "ministry" started, maybe they will look for him to crucify again.

ItShallPass:
Can you show me exactly where I said evil can be used as far as it defeats evil? Please quote where I said that. Why twisting my words?

1:

We were talking about the emotions of Anger, Hate and Jealousy, and I'm showing you that these emotions are not entirely evil in themselves.

While you don't seem to understand that Jealousy, envy, hate, strife and such all originate from Anger and Greed, and consequently evil in themselves, you further seem to mistake the act of destroying something for Anger. Subtle as it is, the thin line which makes all the difference between constructive destruction and that done with anger is found in the Feeling.

While taking down my house for a better one, I feel pride, fulfilment and positive hope for a better one. If I was provoked and was to use a caterpillar on the house, it's a different thing.

What you will hardly see is the type of energy I was generating while performing in any of the two emotional qualities I listed earlier. Is the emotion negative or positive? That's the defining line.

With the above I can chastise an erring child in a state of one or two of the qualities Eckankar proposes vis :Patience, Detachment and Rightful Discrimination. This is love invariably.

If you wonder why anger is totally discouraged, it's about what it does to your spiritual bodies. You immediately fall from grace spiritually to a particular part of heaven where immature (evil) souls dwell. These are the demons as referred to by the church.

Before you know it, a "righteous anger" (as you will have) it is being sponsored by a discarnate entity without your knowledge. Do it another time and you form a hidden bond with that entity. The picture is this: any base emotion (jealousy,hate,strife, envy) automatically places you at the lowest wrung of the spiritual ladder. This is where the Shakaus and Osamas are found if you visit.

We were talking about the emotions of Anger, Hate and Jealousy, and I'm showing you that these emotions are not entirely evil in themselves.

Evil is actually a generalization of acts inspired by jealousy (eg: A Deity ordering mass murder), Envy (same as above), and ultimately Anger, Greed, Lust, Vanity and Undue attachment to material things.

Look up the definition of the word evil.

The Almighty God does not personify those evil traits.

Excuse me. We actually know the one you're referring to above as the 'Two-headed God', the God of good and evil. We know him as the school master of the lower worlds of creation.

He is both the drummer and dancer that church is fighting and praying to if you know what I mean. There is a name you call either of his two heads/sides in church while requesting or binding.

The scripture I was trying to quote and hear from you about is actually Isaiah 45:7. It actually corroborates Eckankar's knowledge of him that I highlighted here.

This is why I shake my head at you when you keep promoting him to me.

ProudWitch:
Who wouldn't die before? 🙃

Please ignore that delusion. What are you looking please?

Dtruthspeaker:
But you would have died faster.

And occult means Satanism so it's very much funny for you to say that you are not a Satanist.

Chieveboy is looking for customers like you, he guarantees to improve your witchness.

Oga what is happening? Occult means satanism how? Wasn't t Jesus Christ in the occult?

[quote author=ItShallPass post=127785660][/quote]Jesus preached to bless those who curse you...and turn the other cheek. To win an argument, you today are telling us evil can be used as far as it defeats evil which I have not heard before.

Jesus was actually teaching you the only successful way of dealing with the five deadly passions which Eckankar highlighted as :lust, anger, greed, attachment and vanity. Respectively, the only tool that deals with them are: rightful discrimination, tolerance, contentment, detachment and humility.

Using anger to attempt solving any issues is adding fuel to fire. Even as humans, we have tried it severally and proved anger solves nothing, jealousy, envy had never solved any problem but compounds it. If I was very jealous because a man held my wife, I was using the wrong approach.

If she is done with the relationship emotionally which is okay, a spiritually mature person will peacefully allow her make the decision to go while maintaining their sanity. This infact is always expected of any relationship and parting ways is no sin while remaining together is spiritual poisoning . Sadly, Christianity doesn't take account of this reality. Jealousy is what leads to the pouring of hot water on a cheating spouse and such. It characteristically compounds a problem .

Meanwhile I have not heard from you about Isiah 45:7. I told you the deity you are advertising to me is the embodiment of evil. What do you say?

ItShallPass:
I wasn't doing any whitewashing. You already got my point, that's why you didn't care to answer the questions raised.

I did, you simply missed it. Amber gives birth to jealousy and envy which are sisters.

Those things are like money, you can use it to do both good and evil. So, without context, you cannot really categorize those forces.

They are not, and here goes the whitewashing again. Anger never produces any good. It is a destructive force. It springs from the negative polarity of the life force.

Maybe I should talk physics so you will understand. The negative pole of anything came only function as one. If it produces positive charges, then it's not negative bit positive. It cannot be the two at once.

If you're talking of anger, hate, envy and jealousy in terms of habitual manifestations, then, we're on the same page. Anyone who is habitually angry, envious, jealous or hateful is evil..

Very good. The extension of the Two-headed God is constantly angry and jealous because 24/7, you have Muslims, Eckists, etc who are constantly worshiping other Gods but him. He said not to worship any God but him for he is a jealous God.

[quote]The Almighty God does not personify those evil traits. He's love personified and all His children are commanded to be like Him.

I will quote this so that you will rethink the statement. If you personify love, there will be zero room for anger because from it emanates hate, resentment, jealousy, strif, and envy.

Are you telling me that you never get angry? There's nothing you hate in life (You don't hate murder, infidelity, cheating, etc) ? You'll not be jealous of your wife if you see another man cuddle her?

We are talking about a supposedly perfect God not me. As much as I can, I run away from hate and jealousy even as a mortal, not to talk of someone who supposedly lives in glory, honor, golden throne and whatnot, yet still lacks contentment and makes time for petty emotions that even men are finding obnoxious.

You can't paint these forces any colour without talking of context except you're referring to habitual manifestations and tendencies.

In the world's beyond the world's of creation (1rst, 2nd ...4th heavens), no negative trait exists. Anyone who loves there can't find anger, jealousy or hate in them even if they want to. This is why the ruler or deity of this world is said to dwell in an Ocean of Love and Mercy.

The other ruler who is found in the world of creation where nothing can exist withouts it's opposite on the other hand exhibits the base traits found in his world because he created them (Isiah 45:7). [b]He personifies them [/b]He is the God of Orthodox religion who is capable of jealousy, envy, anger, lust, etc. This is why he can order mass killings and all that.

These negative streams are necessary for him to carry on the job of creation and destruction.

Read that scripture above and digest it.

Ken4Christ:
This is why I said that you didn't have a good foundation in Christ.

If our good works could save us, Jesus would not have come to die. The scripture says that all our righteousness are like filthy rags.

It was only the blood of Jesus that met the demand of Justice.

The scripture says that the wages of sin is death.

It also says that, without the shedding of blood, there is no remission.

Jesus is the one who has been appointed to judge everyone. And you will stand before him to be judged.

And the words he spoke and the writings of the Apostles is what will be used to judge this generation on that day.

Your good works only counts after you are saved. Good works will never save you.

There is only one name given under heaven by which man shall be saved. And that name is Jesus.

Okay. Goodnight

[quote author=ItShallPass post=127780943][/quote]In Eckankar, we know that the the Lord of the negative worlds tests souls via five deadly passions:

Anger
Attachment
Greed
Lust
Vanity

When you wander into the heavens and find any being who exhibits any of the above, know that you are before Satan or It's agent. It's very simple. Infact, the Lord of the lower worlds tests souls using one or all of the above negative virtues.

There is no excuse whatsoever for exhibiting any of the above, and Paul was spot-on about it. It was funny when you tried to white-wash jealousy and anger just so you can paint black white.

God or anyone has no business whatsoever with any of those negative traits. You can only fool people with the title "God" "Pastor" "believer", etc, your fruits however exposes who and what you really are.

This is what sets Eckankar apart!

ItShallPass:
Please read me again.

God has no enemies but the enemies of man are God's enemies because God loves man. I never said or implied that man is one of God's enemies.

Yeah, the Almighty God can be angry because He am hates evil and the perpetrators thereof. Or are you saying that the Eckankar deity loves evil? The [b]Almighty God is a jealous God because He loves. [/b]When you truly love someone, you can become jealous when that same someone gives the attention and service meant for you to another.

[b]Anger, Jealousy, Envy, Regret and Hate are not negative in themselves. It all depends on the source and the direction of these traits. [/b]While it is a positive trait to be angry at evil, it is not a positive trait to be angry for nothing. These traits move us to correct the things that are wrong. God hates sin for instability but He loves the sinner. Does the Eckankar deity love sin? Or he protends as if Sin does not exist?

I never said or implied that man is one of God's enemies.

For it's own reasons, Christians and Orthodox religion teach themselves that those who don't believe in their Prophet are children of the devil (Gods enemies). That God is burning them up for that. If anything, all you have been telling me since is that God is my enemy and I his.


The bolded above got me laughing

All in the name of protecting the image of Lord Two-head (God of orthodox religion ), you invariably said Anger, Hate, Jealousy, Envy are positive forces. At this juncture, o really want you to go beyond trying to win arguments and really contemplate things out...

I will leave you with a screenshot of what Paul said about Love which was compiled in what is known as the Christian Bible below.

Know that the rule doesn't change for anyone. Hate is hate, anger is anger, Jealousy is Jealousy even for any being that claims it is God. By the fruits, you can know what is what, a good tree does not produce bad fruits.

Cheers.

[quote author=ItShallPass post=127779739]Yeah, we live as Gods while on earth. We exercise authority over Satan and his demons.

In Eckankar, we worry not about Satan akd his demons because we know that the moment you put your attention on anything, you become one with it or attract it. Maybe that's why church is so much into binding and casting that never finishes despite all the "power in de blood"...

Our attention is on the Holy Spirit most of the time and this places is in realms where demons don't exist.

[quote]God has no enemies. All things are the works of His hands. Satan became the enemy of God only because he's the enemy of man. God loves man, and so, any enemy of man automatically becomes the enemy of God.

No need for the first statement ("God has no enemies" because you invariably said he has one which includes even men at the end of the day.

Eckankar teaches you of a Supreme Deity who dwells in the Ocean of Love and Mercy where it's not possible to have anger, hate, jealousy, and enemies as characterized by the God of Christianity.

The Supreme Deity CANNOT be angry, regret, be jealous or provoked even for a nano second!

Anger, Jealousy, Envy, Regret, Hate are NEGATIVE traits even by man's standard.

ItShallPass:
True.

You'll meet the true God in His time. As long as you're in your body, you'll continue to count time until you leave that body.

We live as Gods while on earth. That's why we ditched Christianity all together and it's counting of time.

We don't worship the God who has enemies and adversaries (Satan). We follow the Supreme Deity.

As you can see, oga two-head that you worship is late counting time...