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Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 6:53pm On Jan 04, 2024

ItShallPass:
True.

You'll meet the true God in His time. As long as you're in your body, you'll continue to count time until you leave that body.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 6:42pm On Jan 04, 2024

ItShallPass:
Smiling.

One day, I repeat, you'll meet the true God, and it's just a matter of time.

Time and space are illusions. Cheers

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 6:30pm On Jan 04, 2024

ItShallPass:
With God, time is irrelevant in His realm.

1: Eckankar teaches you ways to explore the reality behind Paul's statements "...ye are God's" for your self, so that you no longer need to believe it, but know it.

But as a man, you still have tomorrow, and many days to come.

2: It also teaches you that heaven is here and now. Not tomorrow, not yesterday. In fact, no such thing as yesterday or tomorrow but an eternal Now.

If you realize this, you will see the scam and folly in someone threatening you of not going to heaven when you die or that you must accept any man as your savior before you go there.

This is because Man is already existing in the same time in heaven as he is living on earth now. His heavenly bodies which correspond to the heavens themselves are what give life to his physical body. When the link to his heavenly body is severed, the physical body dies.

What keeps him from seeing and knowing this reality is his because he uses the human body which is spiritually dumb by nature and can only see physical things. But he drops this temporarily every night and sees parts of heaven and has experiences there, comes back in the morning and calls it "a dream".

This means man automatically uses the heavenly body the moment he drops the earthly one permanently at death. He doesn't even need to know the word "God" for him to continue life in heaven. Its a default setting that most dead people do not even know that they have died...

So the kingdom of heaven is here and now. It's within you. Not in the skies even according to Jesus when asked when the kingdom of God is coming.

This is why we laugh when you go about the folly of threatening anyone here. We cross the body daily. We don't believe heaven exist. We know it exists. Believers in anything without experiencing it are ignorant and dangerous to themselves.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 3:17pm On Jan 04, 2024

ItShallPass:
It's actually laughable because you feel superior.

The height of ignorant arrogance is how a worshipper of the two-headed God is threatening a student of the Mahanta with hell and damnation.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 3:15pm On Jan 04, 2024

ItShallPass:
You'll meet the true God man.

I will take this as a Golden Tongue Wisdom cheesy

It's just a matter of time.

There is really no "Time" as it where. Whatever exists is existing here and now.

I understand where you're talking from.

Good.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 3:03pm On Jan 04, 2024

ItShallPass:
Some day, you would meet God. That's not a prayer. It's a prophecy. It would come to pass in God's time.

Oh no, that prophecy is already fulfilled my friend. I am IN God everyday. At no time was I ever separated cry

No man can exist outside of God's 100% love.

No height, no dept, no ignorance can separate me or ANYONE else wether they believe in God or not from this reality.

Man however had hidden this truth to create an avenue for subjugation and misleading man from this truth for personal reasons.

This is what sets true spirituality apart from Satanic doctrines. This is why religions prefer ignorance and fear.

Thank God I am an ECKist! 🙏🙂

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Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 2:49pm On Jan 04, 2024

ItShallPass:
Man, God still has a plan for your life.

Of course IT does. What do you think is playing out currently?

Your present interaction with Eckankar is ephemeral. Just like how God saved Iyke Nathan Uzorma who wrote the book Occult Grandmaster Now in Christ.

I read such books too as a Christian back in 1999 or thereabout.

The path of ECK however grants me the grace to rise above Fear and Ignorance which Christianity is based on into the Light and Sound of God.

God will save you too some day in His time.

Careful praying for people without their permission though...you may run into hardships. It is white magic to do so, and invariably black magic.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 1:20pm On Jan 04, 2024

Steep:
That is the kingdom you are. You are under deception.

Interestingly, when a Christian says this, they meant that as some form of a curse

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They wish pain and suffering, or intend to run one into some emotional culdesac, hoping that the fear will lead to a subscription to their faith.

Truly, I am in the Kingdom of Satan as far as this earth is concerned wink

Carrying ones cross in Christianity is not paying for your sin neither is working out salvation means paying for your sin.
You can't work out salvation if you are not saved in the first place.

Don't worry na...

"in Christianity" as if when Christians come together to misunderst something, they then are inexplicably excluded from consequences of Karma

You remind me still of the Ostrich burying its head in hay yo escape an approaching lion grin

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Karma touches you regardless of what you believe or don't believe my friend.

If you like, exhaust the whole blood of Jesus on your head, whatever you sow, you must reap.

The wages of sin is death (eternal separation from God), the price of sin is too high no ordinary man can pay for it only the Lord Jesus can because he is sinless.
If you want to pay for your sin that means you have chosen to spend eternity in the lake of fire.
Don't take that route God loves you that is why he sent Jesus to save you.

You can quote all the scriptures that made its way to the bible, then add the one they didn't add.

Whatever you sow, you reap it! No one can save you from it. It's that simple. You can't mock God with any scripture or any blood.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 10:57am On Jan 04, 2024*

Ken4Christ:
Please, Google real life experiences of those who died and saw heaven and others who went to hell. They are just too many to ignore. Besides, Jesus is the truth. His teachings clearly revealed the existence of heaven and hell.

Okay... what I aimed by directing you to meet any elder in your village or family is to bring you closer to stop lifting the experience of others on this heaven.

On Google, you also find the experience of non Christians who died and saw one of the heavens.

The traditionalists and mystics have thousands of years before we smelled anything and anyone called "Jesus Christ"and "Christianity" visited the heavens with full consciousness and reported back their findings which is lost in folklores and myths .

Millions of Eckists and even atheists have fulfilled this feats and some do it daily like Paul of the Bible who said "he dies daily".

For your information, when you die, the person you are going to face will not give a hoot about your Christianity or things you believe in. No blood hence will save you from the experience, only your good deeds.

Atheists even advance to the better heavens than some of the best "men of God"...

I will advice you to go and find out what happens to people when they die because for now, you are just spewing what you believe and not what you know. So go and find out first hand because you definitely will be shocked and very disappointed.

Heaven or life after death is not what you read or argue about. You MUST experience , else you're just an ostrich burying it's head in hay against a lion.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 9:50am On Jan 04, 2024

Minsk24:
Yes

Oh wonderful

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Enjoy the ride and please make sure to give a lot of selfless service to all of life. It helps takes away a lot of burden from you and ease your way into the inner worlds.

The Friday fasts and Monthly Letter to the Master are superb way to remove needless karma wink

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When I joined, I didn't quite believe those things worked and it was a bit difficult for me.

Congrats once again.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 9:46am On Jan 04, 2024

Steep:
You are being decieved by the kingdom of Satan.

If you only you know this "Kingdom of Satan"

Repent and turn to Jesus Christ he died for you so you will not perish.

He died for my sin yet I "carry my cross and work out my own salvation".

If you understand the irony and unambiguity of the above statement, you will STOP expecting anyone saving you because NO ONE will and can save you from your sin.

This is why Christians go through everything the people they label "sinners go through, because everyone is actually carrying his cross and working out his own salvation.

The 'Parable of the Sower' is actually on your lot.

What ever you sow, you shall reap. Period! No blood can reap it for you sir.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 9:39am On Jan 04, 2024*

Ken4Christ:
Your foundation in Christ was not strong enough. Besides, you were looking for the wrong things; feelings.

You might feel good with your present religion but it still won't save you. Salvation is in Christ alone. Not even the devil will disprove it.

Repent and come back to Christ, otherwise, you will end up in burning hell.

It's interesting that after death, Christians especially tend to find the afterlife shocking.

It's usually a case of "what I expect" vs "what I am seeing".

While I won't talk about heaven with you because it's in vain owing to spiritual crystalizes which blind faith and belief leads to, I will advice you to go meet or talk to any elder or old patriarch in your family...or any other person who has witnessed firsthand (not "dem say's or "my Bible tells me..." wink

what happens to someone when they dies.

You actually work out your salvation even in a simple thing as passing the veil of death which proves not so simple for awon salvation.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 8:48pm On Jan 03, 2024

Minsk24:
Nice thread, just began my eck journey

You found it via Nairaland too?

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Joined ECKANKAR On Nairaland by chieveboy(op): 12:52pm On Jan 03, 2024

Minsk24:
Nice thread, just began my eck journey

Wow, congrats on this epic decision 🙏👍

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Soul Travel Works by chieveboy(op): 12:41pm On Dec 31, 2023

Gift96:
The soul travels only after death

Christianity Etc › Re: My out-of-body DMT Experience by chieveboy(m): 12:40pm On Dec 31, 2023

Bintasukai:
Actually, the reason was that I was on other psycho active medication.

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Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why Our Current Religions Are Obsolete by chieveboy(op): 11:03am On Dec 31, 2023

LordReed:
The link to another Nairaland topic? How is that supposed to be a report from soul travellers from before space photos?

I didn't ask of what Paul Twitchell said.

I also didn't ask about " travellers being amazed God knew the location of earth".

I shared the video above. Cheers!

Christianity Etc › How Soul Travel Works by chieveboy(op): 10:49am On Dec 31, 2023

Enjoy if you have a child's heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJiLj5urgE8?si=yHakf_gBDc11KNHd

Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why Our Current Religions Are Obsolete by chieveboy(op): 10:47am On Dec 31, 2023

LordReed:
Well can you show that they reported the existence of billions of galaxies and planets before these were discovered and photographed?

Here it is. Audio-visual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qehJPu12BrE?si=pEc7FvNeHopMZN3O

Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why Our Current Religions Are Obsolete by chieveboy(op): 10:31am On Dec 31, 2023

LordReed:
Well can you show that they reported the existence of billions of galaxies and planets before these were discovered and photographed?

-Peruse the link in my bio. The author had mentioned this severally or you can simply ask them.

-Read the Tiger's fang by Paul Twitchell the modern day founder of ECKANKAR.

I will post link to the video about " travellers being amazed God knew the location of earth"

Christianity Etc › Re: My out-of-body DMT Experience by chieveboy(m): 10:14am On Dec 31, 2023

Bintasukai:
Wow, didn’t know this. What HU sound?

It's a simple sound you make by filling your heart with all the goodwill or love you can muster and you go make the HU sound (pronounced "Hue" wink

in a long drawn-out manner.

You're to focus all of you in your third-eye region (pineal gland location where DMT is produced by the brain).

The lack of a heart filled with love during your DMT overdose/misuse trip was responsible for the horrible experience you had. You landed in the lower astral plane and that's where any external effort (substance, etc) can take you.

You want to reach to the lovelier places and beyond. Only internally-generated efforts can take you there. The HU sound is the building block of all sounds and Matter. It's in everyone.

Max time singing it is 30min please.

I tried the breathing exercises and ran away. For some reason, as soon as I feel the first sign of the DMT a mortal fear grips me. I guess it’s my ego trying to keep things the same, afraid I will see it for it’s true self.

Love. Think of someone you love and fill your heart with the love you have for them. If you don't have someone, think of something. This can be a past event that brought joy, excitement etc. the goal is to be on the positive pole of emotion before embarking on any spiritual or even the most mundane quest. Love is actually the master key.

All the blocks you experienced are the gatekeepers placed withing us all, such that only the pure can pass through.

The more love, the higher you can go.

Cheers!

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Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why Our Current Religions Are Obsolete by chieveboy(op): 10:05am On Dec 31, 2023

LordReed:
Where did the soul travellers report the there were billions of galaxies and planets?

I am sure you're here to argue they made that claim after the image was publicized?

Christianity Etc › Re: My out-of-body DMT Experience by chieveboy(m): 8:46am On Dec 31, 2023

Bintasukai:
LSD is man-made. Dmt is gotten straight from plants or the bufo Alvirus frog. LSD is pretty mild, and dmt is conc. There are several types of lsd. There are 2 types of dmt.

We all produce DMT internally. This is why I saw the folly of that kobo junkie girl trying to take you to a guilt-trip.

Some breathing exercises allows you to release them. Some sounds like that HU sound when sung with love releases DMT at the right dosages and other powerful chemicals in your body which science hasn't so much known yet.

The role of DMT and such is spiritual upliftment beyond the veil of the human limits as you have experienced.

One other way DMT is released is via selfless service to life. People don't know this. This gets released gently and gently and before you know it, the person is changed beyond their attention. People with inner vision see them surrounded with pure light.

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Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why Our Current Religions Are Obsolete by chieveboy(op): 10:36am On Dec 30, 2023

The religions I refer to also where founded when the Internet didn't exist. This means these people are highly inferior in consciousness compared to today's.

The issue with this is exemplified in the statement: "God made to the sun to give light by day and the moon by night".

But we all know that the moon didn't exist to give light by night did it?

How about the Suns, moons or other "satellites" that exists in other galaxies and their functions? That information is totally missing from the religions until lately when sciences the effort--which compared to the knowledge of Soul-travelling mystics is a miniscule scratch in the surface of the abundance of data out there.

Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why Our Current Religions Are Obsolete by chieveboy(op): 10:29am On Dec 30, 2023

From the image above, it becomes extremely difficult.

In fact Soul Travellers report that earth is so tiny that it is a surprise God knows it's location and what's happening there.

Christianity Etc › This Is Why Our Current Religions Are Obsolete by chieveboy(op): 10:27am On Dec 30, 2023

The current religions where founded around information where knowledge about that contained in the image below is missing--at least for most populous religions...

Further, they didn't know of means or they didn't employ the means to explore the universe using artificial technology (air and space crafts) or biologically/naturally (via Soul Travel, Astral Projection, Remote Sensing, etc) by projecting their consciousness to any location in 'space and time's or extra-dimensionally.

This often give rise to half knowledge and information leading to limitive believes, cultures, creeds and dogmas.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Approves Blessings For Same-sex Couples by chieveboy(m): 4:55pm On Dec 24, 2023

youngsahito:
who told you that God doesn't segregate? Why not allow people to come naked to your church if God truly believes in the heart of a worshippers.

The humans are the ones who have a problem with unclothedness. He even purportedly out them in the garden naked.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Miracles Happen In America Like In Africa? by chieveboy(op): 9:54am On Dec 24, 2023

immortalcrown:
American government performs in America the kinds of miracle that only God performs in Africa.

If you read up the full story, you will see where the OP mentioned how there is the 'how' to what people term miracles.

Miracles for now is generally an event which defies scientific logic. Yes there are such...

Moreover, are you aware today's science would have been termed a miracle in a distant time or setting?

For now, the OP said a car about to hit him vanished, for now, and even if we know the 'how', is a miracle!

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Miracles Happen In America Like In Africa? by chieveboy(op): 9:51am On Dec 24, 2023

Expanse2020:
I always wondering why our so called poster don't go to hospital to perform miracles with the blind, leprosy, and others physically challenge people..that it's only on Tv we do see miracle in Africa

Your comment is constructive and may be inspired by perception of " Daddy GO" and man of God"

This is entirely not Christianity. Read up and let me know what you think.

I posted the link to the full story up there.

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Miracles Happen In America Like In Africa? by chieveboy(op): 8:46am On Dec 24, 2023

For the complete story,

Here is the source:

https://web.facebook.com/tosinkingjames/posts/pfbid02BKXdbz8encC1VMi74pwi1qbqtjHWCkTX5QCKvjMtce5F51Jhj2hJQKrE9fB64Yyzl

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Miracles Happen In America Like In Africa? by chieveboy(op): 8:43am On Dec 24, 2023

..."I was taken aback by his question. In fact, I thought he was just kidding and trying to gift me with a joke. But I was wrong.

"Why do you say that?" I asked, with a bemused smile.

He cleared his throat, self-consciously. I patted him on the shoulder to encourage him further.

"You know,” he said, “I've heard of so many miracles told by Africans. It seems to be a common thing there. But here, I've not seen or heard as many. That led me to conclude that God must be more active in Africa than here."...

Christianity Etc › Re: Do Miracles Happen In America Like In Africa? by chieveboy(op): 8:41am On Dec 24, 2023

Do miracles happen in America or are miracles limited to Africa and Africans?

This may sound weird to you but someone actually confronted me with that question in Los Angeles in 2019.

On that fateful day, I had the privilege of making a presentation at a well-attended event organized by Eckankar Center, Los Angeles, located on the famous Sunset Boulevard, adjacent to the more famous Hollywood Boulevard.

As usual, whenever I get such an opportunity, I like to share some of my rather unique experiences with the ECK power. This is the Holy Spirit or what others call the Higher Power.

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