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Christianity EtcRe: Why is ECKANKAR Too Powerful? by chieveboy(op): 1:52pm On Feb 03, 2023
Why religion fail at certain points to help people from sickness, poverty, dilemma and any other thing is because it had ventured far away from the knowledge of this force which is a non-personal, and non-religous whatever it is.

When the ECK gets broken down into a culture, belief, religion, cult, philosophy, thought or emotion, it results or creates conditions in tandem with the input.

The results is fear, suffering and pain, all of which are okay by the way but some times not necessary.
Christianity EtcRe: Why is ECKANKAR Too Powerful? by chieveboy(op): 1:45pm On Feb 03, 2023
It is experienced as Sound and Light in it's purer state. It breaks down into several other forms to make the atom, fibre, membranes, colors, and down to unbelievable things and conditions as laughter, sorrow, pain, joy, and even the pleasure of sex.

ECK then is ORIGIN.
Christianity EtcRe: Why is ECKANKAR Too Powerful? by chieveboy(op): 1:42pm On Feb 03, 2023
To the point:

Why is ECK so powerful? If anyone of any bias goes by the earlier definitions, you find that there is no much to explain about why.

Even the church agrees that without it (ECK) nothing that was made can exist. It is the voice of GOD. In it we live, move and have our being.
Christianity EtcRe: Why is ECKANKAR Too Powerful? by chieveboy(op): 1:39pm On Feb 03, 2023
ECKANKAR: A combination of the words "ECK" and "ANKAR" (the way or path) that means "The path of or the way of the Holy Spirit).

Side note:

Cheers to those who instilled fear in me back in the day that I always have to be in prayer before passing by New Nyanya ECK Center close to Abuja.
Christianity EtcRe: Why is ECKANKAR Too Powerful? by chieveboy(op): 1:31pm On Feb 03, 2023
Terms:

ECK: It is a Sanskrit adaptation of "One" that is used to describe or name the Primordial Life Force, that which gives life and reality to all things. It is what the church refers to as "Holy Spirit", "Logos", interestingly the church also calls it the "Holy Ghost".
Christianity EtcWhy is ECKANKAR Too Powerful? by chieveboy(op): 1:23pm On Feb 03, 2023
I have met people who have ran to ECKANKAR for help from one problem or the other.

One of such is a guy from Akwa Ibom. He had spiritual issues. I didn't take him serious till I saw a 'demo' of what people from his place are capable of. His case was 'beyond repair' of deliverance houses you have in Nigeria. He had been there and done it all, his problem surfaces with new flavours.

Before I proceed, a destination of terms would be handy. The idea is to clear misinformation, ignorance, fears and whatnots. I have been there.
PoliticsRe: "Nigerians Are Suffering" - Oshiomhole Speaks On Naira Redesign (Video) by chieveboy(m): 8:03am On Feb 03, 2023
The didn't know Nigerians a suffering until now.
RomanceRe: Have You Ever Had Sex With Someone & Started Having Nightmares? by chieveboy(m): 4:13pm On Jan 26, 2023
BadRadio:
Honestly... This thing happened to me... I had sex with this girl and since then, I haven't had one night of good sound sleep... I have had series of multiple Nightmares in one Night.

Ómo... no be small thing...
Happened to me too back in the day. Tinder babe...

Go and sing Eckankar HU.

I won't waste time trying to explain how to sing it. Go to Eckankar's official website and learn yourself.

Best wishes to you.
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 3:14pm On Jan 22, 2023
41. When the listening has ended, let us say the New Lord’s Prayer: Fill my heart with your Love, Oh God. Grant me the Grace to be a channel, For this Love. Guide my thoughts and my steps, Always May Thy Will be mine, Oh Lord

42. Now we can go about our day to day life, as usual; but there will be a difference: the Light and the Voice of God, which we have contacted, bring Love, Wisdom and Power.

43. Let us realize we are no longer the same as before, for we have been embraced by God.

44. Let us think, feel, and act like the Saints: in the Name of God, and Love.

45. Let us do everything in the Name of Love and God.

46. Peace, which surpasses all understanding, will be our portion, when we do this.

47. Whenever we can, let us sing the Holy Word, even as we work or walk, but more silently; now with the eyes open, for we do not want to attract undue attention, nor do we want to disturb others.

48. Eventually, It will become an integral part of us, so that as we breathe out, we sing It, to glorify God for every breath.

-Love, Sex, Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 3:11pm On Jan 22, 2023
31. But humility does not exist in the body, when we are talking with God; rather, it exists in the Spirit; therefore, let us be humble in our heart and mind, before God.

32. Know this secret: when we pray correctly, the Blue Light, the Golden Light, or the White Light, flows into us, from the top of the head, like a waterfall, all the way to the soles of our feet; therefore, it is essential to sit or lie down straight.

33. Now that we are comfortable, let us close our eyes, and look through the spiritual eye, where the two eyebrows meet, or the top of our head; or, simply, imagine we are standing before, and looking into, the loving eyes of Jesus, Saint Francis, or any other Saint, founder of our religion, or any person we have great love and respect for.

34. This is just a symbol, to represent God; the image of God we cannot fathom, but a creature of God, who has entered into the warm embrace of the Holy Spirit, can be used for this purpose.

35. Let us breathe in and out, gently, for about a minute or two, to relax our body; now, let us sing the Holy Word, by breathing in, then singing It out, gently, as we breathe out: HU-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U.

36. We breathe in again, and breathe out with HU-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U; we stretch the singing as long as the breath can take us, without straining.

37. This should continue between ten to forty five minutes; after this, we stop, remain silent, continue to watch the window of Heaven, and listen with the inner ear.

38. We have done our part; now we are in the Presence of God; let us be silent.

39. We may hear a Sound, Music, the Wind, or any other; we may also hear the Voice of Jesus, or one of the Saints, telling us something good for ourselves.

40. We may see the Light, a vision, the face of one of the Saints, or we may find ourselves in one of the Heavens.

- Love, Sex, Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 3:09pm On Jan 22, 2023
25. It is the Word by which everything is created; It is the tongue, the language of God

26. By It, also, everything and everyone can be reconciled back to the Source of Life, The Most High God.

27. Let us pray It, by singing It, softly, long, continuously; to do this, do not bring your problems to the altar; you are here for the solution.

28. When we focus on the problem, we are telling God that we still need it in our life.

29. Let us be quiet in our mind, and give love and gratitude to God for all the blessings.

30. Let us sit in a chair, lie down on a bed, or on a comfortable surface; do not bend the neck, the knees, or bow the head; that was recommended by the Fathers, to teach us humility.


-Love, Sex, Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 3:07pm On Jan 22, 2023
17. To do this, a simple, yet, most powerful Name of God has been revealed to us, so that when we call His Name we shall be saved, by being lifted by the Son to the abode, the Presence of God.

18. HU, pronounced as it appears in the word Human, is the Name of all names, the Word with which God created the Spirit of man, the Heavens and Earth.

19. This was the Word prayed by Lord Jesus, and a few closest to Him, which kept them in constant touch with God.

20. It was not invented, or created, by any human being, religion, or organization; It is with God before the beginning; God utters It and Light appears; with Light comes every other thing we can see as Nature.

21. This Holy Word was heard by the Apostles, as a rushing, mighty wind; that is how It sounds, coming down from the Throne of Grace.

22. For those whose spiritual ear is open, they can hear It, going on and on, continuously, endlessly: HU-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U, like the wind, a heavy wind, rushing.

23. With the outer ear, we can still hear the echo of It in Life: the heartbeat; the waterfall; musical instruments; the car engine; aero plane; the fan; when we hum a tune; and when we block our ears.

24. There is nothing that is alive, that exists, without It.

-Love, Sex, Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 3:01pm On Jan 22, 2023
13. Luckily enough, the Spirit-Son and the Holy Spirit are more powerful than the teachers of the Tempter.

14. They also have some friends who serve as teachers, comforters, healers, redeemers, if we accept to enroll in the Holy Spirit University.


15. These friends are: patience; kindness; mercy; grace; humility; discipline; contentment; gratitude; love: for self, neighbor and God; self-sacrifice; making life easier for the next person.

16. To further crown it all, the Holy Spirit is ready to visit and live in us, in form of the Light (Fire) and the Voice (Sound, Music) of God, which bring Love, Wisdom and Power, to give us freedom from all bondage and tricks of the Tempter.


-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op):
Bonus:

7. A problem is a temptation, or a test, which the Tempter brings about, to see if we have overcome certain fears and weaknesses.

8. Some of these are: the fear of death and old age; loss of self-esteem; pride; anger; selfishness; greed; addictions; lust for food, drinks, sex; idolatry: worship of self, others, and things; unforgiving spirit; jealousy; envy; procrastination; self-hate, and many other untoward character defects.


9. These are our harsh teachers, in this school of Life; and the Tempter is the Principal

10. The Fathers got it wrong, when they said the Tempter does all these things against the Will of God.

11. No; his commission is to make it difficult for us to enter into the Kingdom of God (Kingdom of Love and Peace); a place where nothing impure can survive; in fact, nothing impure exists there.

12. So, until we give up our love for the teachers, in the High School of the Tempter, then we shall forever remain a student (an object of torture) of the Devil.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op):
49. “Tell the followers to stop worshiping man, and take up their spiritual armor.

50. “Tell them I await them in the Heavenly Worlds, just as I did when Jesus came to the Earth; my heart is full, and the Love waits for those willing to receive.

51. “Go quickly, and tell them to come quickly.

52. “These are the days of Grace; the Holy Spirit is poured like wine into your cups to drink; changes come soon, and the cup may be shattered in the turbulence to come.

53. “Take up the cup now and fill yourself with the Water of Life.

54. “Drink of the Light and the Music of God will lift you into the Heavens.

55. “Here I wait, just like my Brethren.” 56. He raised His right hand in blessing, “I am with you, till the end of time.”

57. The messengers awoke in their beds, or where ever they were before ascending to Heaven in Spirit, to partake of the Holy Assembly of the Saints.

58. We gave glory to God for the opportunity to walk the Heavens, like a true citizen, and still able to return to Earth, as true messengers of The Word; the true citizens of the City of God.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op):
29. “The world does not need new religions; there are too many; too many, empty like a shell, when the snail is gone.

30. “Now you are here; some came in their dreams; others came through consciously being in Spirit; only so can you hear or see me and these other Saints who are ready to assist you.


31. “Your mission on Earth is to discover your true relationship with God and become a conscious servant of God.

32. “How can you know and become this, if you don’t come to God?

33. “You must leave the ramshackle existence of Earth and journey to these Heavens, just like your prophets did.

34. “Paul came here and went higher; and when he returned, he became a changed person, because he had become the true knower; not someone who read a book.

35. “Greater things, than Paul did, you can also do, because we are ready to help. 36. “Fill your heart with Love, and sing the Holy Word; be assured, you will meet with the Saints.

37. “Fill your heart with Love, because without Love you cannot climb the ladder that will bring you to the Heavens.

38. “If you love Jesus, then fill your heart with love for Jesus, and sing the Holy Word, and the Saints will be there to take you to the Heavens, to the abode of God

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 2:31pm On Jan 22, 2023
Maynman:
Yawn, can you prove all these assertions, or you want to keep rambling.

Physics was originally called natural philosophy, so tell me the deeper laws of it and the equation of how you arrived to it.
I foresee more yawns if we go deeper, at least you've shown capacity in that direction so far.

Not to offend you, how "going deeper" is done is that you need to come with something...as in knowing something of the subject, else, we risk "casting gold on the wrong neck"...This is only the law of economy...
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 2:26pm On Jan 22, 2023
elated177:
This is not about me. Don't try to make it so. Besides, you have no idea of what I know.
You're an open book.


Everyone has his/her reason for holding tenaciously to his or her beliefs and religion. It is an individual walk, chieveboy.
Hold on tight. The wind of change blows however...

Coming from someone who is posting and promoting the narratives of another person, should I be offended or what?



Hilarious!
Asides from the narratives of someone being posted here, if you haven't seen anything else posted, then we need to give it more time perhaps smiley
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 2:22pm On Jan 22, 2023
Maynman:
Can you prove all these assertions.
This thread if you focus on its basics is for you to be aware that you can personally verify these things rather than engage in arguments on whether you're being deceived or not.

Any one regardless of belief in God or Lack of it has access to visit the so-called heavens to see things for themselves and be first-knowers.

You can know the deeper laws of physics in the inner planes, after all no founder of industry and genius on earth today had not been there consciously or unconsciously.

Just be patient and hear the "Tales by moonlight" I am posting please. May be something might tick for you.
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op):
22. “The world does not need religion; the world needs Love; Love that will open your heart for the Holy Spirit to step in and become a permanent resident.


23. “The world does not need dogmas and moral codes; the world needs God coming alive in the mind, heart, body and Soul of all men.

24. “The world is tired of the idle and empty words of the clergy, the philosophers and the politicians.

25. “The world needs the Holy Word, which is the key, to open the door to Heaven, just like our brother John did, and he met with me in the Heavenly World, so that he could write for you the Book of Revelation.


26. “He wrote Revelation, which was his experience in the Heavens that took a few minutes; and the world has spent two thousand years debating and quarrelling over the content.

27. “Rather, each one should reach out to me and the other Saints, and we shall take you to the Second Heaven, where you can see the future for yourself.

28. “The world has gone beyond spiritual speculation; the world needs each and everyone having these holy experiences by themselves; only then will they mean anything beyond speculative logic.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 2:13pm On Jan 22, 2023
Maynman:
So what’s the use of this love?
This love is what makes existence possible. Without it, we Souls cannot exist.

This love also is the fabric which everything comes from. It is the building block of Matter beyond the quantum state which out scientists know currently.
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 2:06pm On Jan 22, 2023
elated177:
Don't kid yourself, chieveboy. I know the God whose servant I am and whom I worship.
Like I said earlier, this is all you know for now. I am not disputing what you believe.



Deut 6: 4 Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God, YHVH is one. 5 Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength

Deut 6: 18 Do what is right and good in YHVH’s sight, so that it may go well with you and you may go in and take over the good land YHVH promised on oath to your ancestors, 19 thrusting out all your enemies before you, as YHVH said.



Fallacious fantasy.[/quote]Ah, books and scriptures smiley

What's if we open the Holy book of Buddhists today and see something contradictory to this? Or we check out that of Islam and or any of the other religions? Books...


So we have to only read about the deity right? Read?


This thread though is about experiencing God first hand. So be humble and watch. Maybe you will learn beyond books about...
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 1:45pm On Jan 22, 2023
elated177:
Chieveboy, here is another.

John 15: 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

Can you see the condition unambiguously pointed out there?

The only way that one can remain in Yahushua's love is by keeping the Father's Commandments.
We're talking of the Supreme Deity though who is all-powerful for them to have it's creation trying to overthrow it.

IT does not have enemies, favorites , likes and dislikes and conditions for it's Love. IT does not seek recognition or worship. These are base desires that trap the beat of men and angels into the abyss of the lower worlds.

The issue here is as a Christian, you of course would know nothing other than what you've read.
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 1:42pm On Jan 22, 2023
elated177:
That is not what I meant. Even the love that YHVH Almighty offers has some conditions attached to it . Let no one deceive you in that regard.
You will one day know who YHVH is. There are more on the ladder along which YHVH is part of.


John 14: 15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Can you see the condition explicitly stated out in verse 16? The only that a seeker or saint of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, will ever receive his Set-apart Spirit is by obedience to his Commandments.

How does one show that he or she truly loves Yahushua the Messiah? No be by mouth o. It is by obeying his Commandments.
At least from the human perspective, you can see that this does not sound like like someone with a perfect Love.

If you study the Bible carefully and do a little crossing of the 'T(s)' and dotting your 'I(s)' without being afraid you will vex some deity in the skies, you will see that those who from the heaven (skies) came and who made men in their image are in indeed "God(s)" by appearance and capabilities, but at the same time suffer the imperfections mere mortals suffer

They trip for human girls, they are jealous, partial as to having favorites and such.

Their "chariots of fire" were indeed nice vehicles though....
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 1:33pm On Jan 22, 2023
elated177:
Within the context and premise of your thread, though still being compiled, I suspect, how is love expressed?
It flows from the heart dear. It's in the heart.

The basic is loving a human, animal, place or thing. A girl or a boy, etc .

The actual 'owner' of the universe doesn't care who or what you love, just love, neither does it care how Love expresses itself. Block it here and it will pop up there.

LOVE is actually not the "I love you" persay that we feel, that's just one way it expresses itself. Our beloved electricity is a huge step down of LOVE literally speaking. LOVE is actually real power and has a voltage in this lower world.

Everything is an expression of Love including crying and laughter. All things 'stubbornly' revolves around LOVE.

Out wars, friendships, jobs and all endeavors are all expressions of LOVE brought about by devolving of this compact energy into lesser derivatives. It's Physics.
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 1:25pm On Jan 22, 2023
Maynman:
so no matter what you do, Murder and rape, your god will always love you, or are there conditions attached?
Yes. Nothing and no one can earn or unearn that. It's unconditional.

You however reap exactly what you did to another. Should you die without having to reap or pay up what you sow, you will be born again as a new born baby.

What you did in the past will now become your so-called destiny. This can be having to be born as a leper for chopping uff people's limbs in the past or being born a dwarf frog abusing physical strength.

Every one and everything is in its rightful place. The purpose is learning and being this LOVE after being dealt with by one's own actions which come home to roost after several lifetimes.
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op):
16. The Light at the gathering was overwhelming, because, here were gathered people of all races, nations, and religions, who served God in all humility and in love.

17. The tall, slim Lord, whose hair and beard were as white as snow, spoke to the gathering: “The world does not need more religions; there are enough to serve the more than seven billion people on Earth.

18. “What the world needs is the Holy Word, which will take you into the First Heaven and higher; and here you can attend the true church, the Living Temple, where the Saints await you, to teach you the Truth, in an untainted manner.

19. “Do you love Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed, Patanjali, and Saint Francis?

20. “Then, come here, and you will meet them and hear the untainted Truth from their mouth; not as men have written, or misinterpreted it; but Truth that comes in form of Light and the Voice of God.

21. “In the holy places in this world, which you call Heaven, Truth is imperishable; It becomes what you can become one with; so that when you wake in the body on Earth, you will not doubt the reality of your own Eternal and Divine nature.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 1:16pm On Jan 22, 2023
elated177:
Chieveboy, there is a time when "love" is not love.
There is "love" that is not love.
There's is LOVE and there is love. The difference is the former is un-conditional. The later is conditional.

The man of religion tells you you must recite some lines and accept some terms and conditions for you to partake in God's love.

That's not true at all
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 1:14pm On Jan 22, 2023
Maynman:
And you serve a LOVING god right?
More like co-workership rather than "serve".

I am a fraction of God. It is God doing the 'do'.

This God is indeed LOVE. Not human love (conditional love), but perfect love.
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op): 11:01am On Jan 22, 2023
Stay tuned...
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op):
11. “This is the Age of the Holy Spirit, my brother Bruno; do not limit yourself; do not reject the offer of the Hand of God, stretched from above, ready and willing to lift you out of the misery of this world.

12. “Long has it been prophesied; now we are living in the times of fulfillment of prophesies; now we can live in the City of God while still in the flesh.”

13. And so it came to pass that a big convention of the true children of God, who are led by the Holy Spirit, was held on the First Heaven.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)
Christianity EtcRe: You Need Love Not Religion by chieveboy(op):
5. Bruno was taken aback that ordinary-looking people, who occupied the same flesh like him, could claim to experience what the Saints experienced in the days of old.

6. “The testimony of Paul in 2nd Corinthians is not meant for all; God said all our righteousness is like filthy rag; except with the righteousness of Christ, we cannot see God or present our prayer request before him; you walk with God by faith, not experience.”

7. I knew what troubled Bruno; his church leaders had set limitations on the Spirit; and so they lead the congregations in the realm of limitations.

8. “The Holy Spirit is for everyone; when you are ready, you will be taken into the Presence of God.

9. “To those who have faith, there is no limitation; even greater things will they do, as prophesied by Lord Jesus.”

10. Bruno had no arguments, but he was challenged, knowing that the times had changed; the Spirit of God had quickened all dead things, and man would never be the same again.

-Love, intimacy., Angels and Miracles (Apocalypse Bible Singles Book 4)

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