NNTR: Contrary to what the bible says, yes, the church, doing the bidding of Rome, assumed the the earth as center of the universe and persecuted Galileo for his discovery,
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Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Please construe that instance (of church acting in ignorance) as a metaphor. People still think God hates or detest certain people and behaviors because they do. They also act out of ignorance of the laws of creation which unfortunately is not covered in their Bibles.
[quote author=NNTR post=119794320]Yeah, no one, simply on basis of their sexuality, nobody deserves to die, even worse to an undignified death, the manner this guy was definitely assaulted, tortured, arms behind back tied up, killed, stuffed into a box and left to rot inside it, before days left later abandoned on a lay by along a dirt road
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[quote]The Greeks understood the concept of love, that they had at least 7-9 different words to represent the 7-9 different kinds of love, so here's, begging the question. Which love really, what type of love really, is being talked here? (i.e. ... love dearly)
Love is love. Detached love is love which expects no rewards and is without conditions. The creator has this love for it's creation. Futility is when you think you can do anything to deserve this love of God.
With all due respect, rebirth in another or separate body (i.e. reincarnation) is a myth
Ignorance is no excuse. Back in the day, people thought the rain is made when an angel opens the gates of the heavens (sky) and rain falls. This isn't about believe or lack of it. Religion is yet to discover many other laws of creation. It shot itself in the foot where it closed it doors to further upgrade of it's Bible of knowledge. That's a dead end.
Smh
A pedophile is a person who is sexually attracted to children and so directs sexual feelings towards children, while a homosexual/lesbian is a person who is sexually attracted to adults of same sex or gender and so directs sexual, love and/or affectionate feelings towards a consenting adult
Now the response to your question, is affirmative, people are born as pedophiles, just as people are born as autistic, just as people are born left handed, just as people are born as homosexual, lesbian, intersex, bisexual et cetera
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Yes, I told someone here earlier that they will be amazed at what nature has and the extent man went and can go to manifest nature's ambit.
Problem always arise from half knowledge and outright ignorance. Man saw the moon and felt it was created to give light in the dark, as though the moon had a light of its own.
Janosky: No one is born into it. Every behaviour about sexuality is learnt and Influenced by society.
Your statement is borne out of church ignorance typical of when back in the day, the church assumed the the earth as center of the universe and persecuted Galileo for his discovery.
It is scientifically proven that hormone levels determine sexuality and sexual orientation.
Around you are females with high testosterone levels that results in them having manly features like beards, strength and physical appearance. Some have penn.ises and some do not feel female at all. Variation of which are the gays and whatnots.
(Your) God can let people born with these hormonal or hereditary anomalies and diseases which even see some being born with two heads, one leg, no eyes, no legs, conjoined etc, but it is 'wrong' sexuality that would be impossible for him to allow eh?
My experience with a friend back in childhood tells me a boy born with high estrogen will act like a girl, kill yourself, he would always act and walk like that. This had always been around before your greatest ever grand father was born!
You guys just like to pin others down with your ignorances, disdain and phobias while ignoring facts and figures of truth just so you will fan your immature egos and disabilities.
By the time you exhaust the gamut of desires man can develop in their growth and development process, I think you won't be surprised at anything.
It's very easy to be born a pedophile than it is to be born with both male and female Instruments all at once.
Man is allowed to go all the way by the creator. If your quest is to eat fellow humans, you're given all the chance to. You think you get away with it till it's your turn to be eaten alike. Often times, it's in another life time.
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When we were young, we were taught never to mock or scorn people with disabilities. It used to sound like one of those tales the elders tell us to keep us from 'engaging'.
Today I, like million others understand why a person can be born so crippled that they are moved like wheel barrows, or they will develop a cronic illness that defies treatment even from birth and people would think that's not fair of God.
Statements like "you create your destiny" and "everything is in its rightful place" is actually fact.
Some call it "Karma". It is what keeps everything functional. Without it, the sun won't rise and set, our eyes would not be able to focus, our breath would be impossible, we cant take a sh*t or swallow...
Trust me on this: If there is anything like getting forgiveness for Sins, you would jump so high and gravity won't pull you back. Would you even be able to jump?
You would slit someone's throat and not be made to be born again, grow, and have your throat slit by them back or another in same manner and setting as happened 'before' in a forgotten 'archive' of the program of life, and they will seemingly get away with it while onlookers would say "life no balance".
Fun fact: You will wind up giving birth to one that you would love dearly and can't help or...
you might reincarnate as one to balance the hate or torture you did directly or indirectly to any of such persons (gay, deaf, albinos, crippled, poor, short, etc). People reincarnate to balance stinginess or to balance the taking of life to saving it (as doctors).
It doesn't matter if you did it for a 'just' cause or if its purportedly sanctioned by a "God". Perhaps we need more lecture to assimilate the "Must" in the statement: "Whatever you sow, you Must reap". Death absolves no man.
If by 2023, you still feels Russia is in Ukraine for War. Then something is wrong with you.
Russia is in Ukraine for world peace. It signifies the beginning of the liberation of the world from the shackles of Evil powers, spearheaded by Nato, Eu and the west.
Evil people who go about spending billions of dollars on Medical healthcare and research but still encourages mental disorderliness in the form of homosexuality.
You do not understand how people of the heart function
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Today's religion says man should pray God into doing this and that for him. This action ranges from gentle to fervent and fierce supplication.
The science ECKANKAR, Modern Advanced Physics and a host of few other schools of thought and religions say man should rather create his own solutions or let and be the will of God as in the case of ECKANKAR.
ECKANKAR prescribed the intoning or singing of the HU sound. It says it is the Sound which all sounds are made from.
This sound " HU" sounds like what you get when you say the word "Hue". ECKANKAR say right now, there is a HUuuu sound playing in the background non-stop, that is what makes everything we see or cannot see possible to exist. In other words, it is what makes creation and existence possible.
The idea of singing it in total surrender to the primordial will of God is that problems arise when we are out of tone with this Primal sound. The sound brings us back in tune with the ultimate reality if we sing it or even think about it.
This then gives us two ways of solving problems:
1: Talking to a deity in the skies or heavens which one believes to exist and who listens to one's requests or prayer as in Orthodox Religion.
2: Using sound as a scientific technology to solve problems, or Intoning (singing) this primordial sound of HU and surrendering to the will of the creator (which this sound represent) as suggested by ECKANKAR and co.
The question is: Why sound instead of simply requesting things from God?
The technology of the future (as obtains in other planets) will be powered by Sound.
The attached screenshots from the book 'Awakening Vibrations' by Neil Primack deals with this subject better if you're ready.
Search "Cymatics" on YouTube. It has a hint on how our reality works. You should be able to take it from there. Blessings!
If you are interested, you could say this prayer for yourself:
"May those whose wish it is/was to use a faceless forum, such as this one, to strip me of all that my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, has bestowed upon me and endowed me with be struck down and destroyed by the thunder and lightning of YHVH Almighty. May the thunder and lightning of YHVH Almighty, my Father in heaven, strike them down, strike them down till they rise no more. May unparalleled calamities and unprecedented woes fall upon them all"
Many will not understand the reason for this. Many will understand the reason for this. There are too many evil-minded individuals here.
El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!
This prayer is inspired by the dark one.
Jesus said to bless those who curse you. Who curse you are those who do not wish you well.
peterincredible: Pls I will advice you don't even bother to argue with this max something and the rest Christian folks they are not ready to research and study pls save ure self the stress
Thank you. I know him too well. I am merely exploring the extents...
MaxInDHouse: The light is getting brighter my friend {Proverbs 4:18} this is the latest understanding in true FAITH. So if you choose to follow the old understand that's your cup of coffee. You can gather your own congregation perhaps what you know today has always being your understanding!
Latest understanding that is outside of the bible which is undemonic while the understanding of others outside the bible is demonic?
Who sanctified this "understanding" as the word of God? The Bible?
You guys always fail to see simple specs in your eyes which many have called out on this forum.
MaxInDHouse: The Bible made us understand that there is just one personality called the WORD {John 1:1} this is the one and only person through whom God's people are informed. Revelations 1:1
Peter and Paul, Thomas and John, are distinct personalities my friend. I am not sure you know what you're saying.
In the Bible book of Revelation he said:
“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll" Revelations 22:18-19 [\quote]
I guess people who founded paths like JW, Deeper Life, Living Faith etc are in for it no one instructed anyone to form a religion (Christianity) much more organizations like JW and so on WHILE OBEYING SCRIPTURE to spread the message. The message was clear, nothing like found and name a religion, and organization.
[quote]This is a farewell message that until he returns to start ruling the earth there is NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION from the messages found in the Bible!
So if humans here any voice from the spirit word apart from what were written in the Bible it's the voices of demons! Galatians 1:8; Revelations 16:14
May you have PEACE!
Too late! We have a religion called Christianity against the bolded. That's a clear addition. We further have JW. Not just JW, doctrines that were clear additions and subtractions. The founder of JW was noted to have said the world was ending 1914...where was the pyramid of Giza mentioned in the bible as having a link to the end of the world?