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Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 4:57pm On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
I am of the idea that the Bible is NOT a reliable source of historical information. The writers of the books of the Bible did not seem to have accuracy at the back of their minds when writing and that is putting it mildly.

Ancient Egyptian depictions are not any different from of our depictions of Hulk and Iron Man, they are most likely fictionalised depictions of real people and events.

It will be interesting to hear you if the pyramids are not around...

If they where fictionalizing, I suppose those who built incredible pyramids wouldn't be able to depict size and proportions in their "fantasies"?

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 3:41pm On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
Exactly. That something was written in the collection of books called the Bible doesn't make it a fact.

You are of the idea that the Bible is the source of that version of history.

There are books that give better information on same subject with real-life facts.

At least you have seen depiction of beings in old Egypt. They lend some truth to this.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 3:05pm On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
Again that's your interpretation and any person can interpret it anyway they like, it doesn't make it a fact.

This then negate the interpretation of the original translators. Any one can do so as they like and they did. This means that too is not a fact.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 1:49pm On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
That's your interpretation, it is not fact.

The Bible was interpreted and also translated. The challenge is Christians love to protect an interest.

For instance, it said "Let us make man in our image", for the reason above, the interpretation said "a single person was talking to his majesty and glory" hence the plurality, another said someone was taking to "the Holy Spirit and Christ".

For your information, books where the Bible a copied from are explicit on the matter.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 1:40pm On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
See attached screenshots

But even this is basic. I will find the PDF of 'Fireball' for you if interested.

Truth is: Stories about Aliens is hidden in plain sight in the Christian Bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 1:38pm On Apr 03, 2023

jaephoenix:
Do you Eckists pull data from nowhere and just believe it without verification?

If you think the internet has any "fantastic" information about aliens and science fiction, wait till you go to an Eck center and listen to first-hand experience of some Eckists or read some of the Eckankar materials. Eckankar originally is from Venus FYI.

I agree you may not take it for what it is, but then that is way to go. Eckists do not as much as use third-party information per-say even if it is that of the Spiritual Leader of the path. Every information out there is to whet your appetite to become a spiritual explorer or serve as a guide if it is discriptive.

Scientists are only starting up with their 'remote viewing' which is a very crude and elementary aspect of the 'extension of consciousness or awareness' beyonds one's local sensoria which Eckists call 'Soul Travel'.

Eckists and millions of non-Eckists have studied in diverse institutions of learning in other planets and dimensions. Not a single invention we have on planet earth is original in any sense of the word.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 1:24pm On Apr 03, 2023

jaephoenix:
[GRABS POPCORN]
I love this story, can you please continue it.
I would like to believe I'm an alien. Sometimes I do stuff I don't believe I'm capable of doing

Lol, you have heard this story before but in a different tone. Our cells produce millions of volts of electricity if all are channeled in a single direction. One cell produces around 1.2 volts.

Those who practice meditation are aiming to attain a 'Overunity'.

In truth we are pulled from different sources. Some know. Look at the girl Ayyra Star. She says she is a "Celestial Being".

To know who you are or see yourself for how and what you truly are, you start with trying to be conscious while dreaming.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 9:09am On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
Go ahead.

I edited my earlier response. In view of the updated information, check these:

1: The Israeli Space Chief's comments on Aliens

2: Research 'Remote Sensing' . Or 'Extension Neuro-sensing'.

The latter is known as Mind Travel in mysticism and the former is also known as Astral Projection. Remote Sensing is science's name and discovery on those.

3: If you read, trying getting the 'Fiction' novel by AR Bordon 'Fireball'
Second is "The Book that Will Forever Change Your Ideas About the Bible" by Mauro Biglino

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 8:44am On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
That question should be for you actually. You sound like someone who has only recently watched sci-fi movies and thinks they are real.

Hahahahaha, very funny "sci-fi" cheesy

In the grander scheme of things, no sci-fi is unreal.

Due to your disposition, we can't really talk much. I can point you in the direction of Science though about this matter. Perhaps you can pick a thing or two.

There are too much information on the internet on this that I am surprised you think science fiction has anything to do with it.

A second-class information for instance comes from the Israeli Space chief expressly said Aliens Exists and are avoiding humans.

Science fiction isn't so "science fiction". You recall the movie and book about around the COVID matter and how it played out exactly like 'fiction' they were written as?

Most times, these books and movies are raw fact. Like claiming to cure cancer can get you into trouble, most of these facts would have to be written as 'fiction' to bypass censorship.

This is why it makes it very very funny. Even in the bible as I have stated here earlier on this thread, account of Aliens who fancied Israel is replete.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 7:49am On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
LMFAO! How do you people come up with these fantasies in such an enlightened age?

Lol, where have you been living?

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 7:36am On Apr 03, 2023

LordReed:
Ahh, I forgot extraterrestrials...that we have never seen.

Yea. They been here severally and didn't really leave as it where. When some of them decide to come here "conventionally", they are given birth to as human babies. Jesus, Krishna, are a few example.

The truth is no human is really "human" as it where. We all come from diverse sources even some from the ocean world.

When people of earth die and their 'love guage' or 'Karmic Guage' reveals their resting place is another planet, they take up bodies that resembles that of Souls there too.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 7:30am On Apr 03, 2023

jaephoenix:
How did you come about this?

I am an Eckist

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 9:33pm On Apr 02, 2023

LordReed:
Explain why human population is increasing if it is just people being recycled.

The number of Souls from other planets on the physical domain alone could fill up all available space on earth. I am not sure if you realize how tiny earth really is.

This is even without moving to other dimensions where most Souls who die on earth go to rest and be reborn.

Christianity Etc › Re: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by chieveboy(m): 12:37pm On Apr 02, 2023

Omniknowest:
The funny story is the Satan versus God story!

God banished Satan from heaven as an evil angel. Then sent him to earth to torment and test his children.... Those who fail will be sent to hell to rot with the evil angel and those who passed will be taken to heaven to rejoice with God.

I'm not atheist because I believe in God because he's pure! But some stories ain't clear!

Copied!

1a: That story of Satan being banished to earth is a fact. The problem though is that the character who was banished for a fact was not Satan, and the banisher was not God as it where.

1b: An event occured in the past. You can trace it's origin even in the Christian Bible. The guys who made men to what they seem today had a beef...

This story is right in the Bible. The problem however is that when you read it, your mind thinks "God" and "Satan", where as it is: "Extraterrestrial 1 vs Extraterrestrial 2". Recall there are others hinted at in the Bible, those who fancied human chicks called "sons of God"..

This is because back in the day and even now, if those beings present themselves, you mind goes "angel", "God", "Lord".

Zeus, Baal, etc are real-life characters who descended from "heaven" (skies) in "chariots of fire" (Space ships). They for real look majestic or Godly for the human mind of those days...

3: The idea of "Sin" is an invention of Rome. There is only Karma to deal with. Karma makes everyone deserve what they get, and it makes the Supreme Deity a just 'God' indeed.

You will ask what of good people who suffer? This is where the crazy idea that people die and are born again comes to play.

They come back to reap what they've sown. Life (indeed) get balance, and is ALWAYS fair to a perfect mathematical degree to a fault.

There is so much to know about what we think we knew. Your questions are all legit if you dare to question.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 10:13am On Apr 02, 2023

Dtruthspeaker:
And you do not see that you are also voicelessly saying you like all those things enkacks is saying.

And what is that think Eckankar is saying?

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 9:46am On Apr 02, 2023*

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=122234116]It is sufficient that you have plainly admitted that you seek power

Yes, being in two places at the same time was my interest."

If enkank was truly from God, it would not tell you that you can be in 2 places at the same time.

It is witchcraft to desire to be in 2 places at the same time. and God has expressly declared His hatred for witches and witchcraft.

So you see, you are not pursuing God but pursuing Satan and trying to acquire his witchy power.

Is it me or your attention to detail is deficit? Let me post it again:

Yes, being in two places at the same time

1:was my interest.

2: Eckankar thought teaches that it is an unnecessary distraction for someone in search of the Holy Spirit or God.

3: Eckankar advocates to seek first the true kingdom like Jesus said and all those 'side attractions' would be yours.

Having stepped the English down earlier but to no avail, let me retry:

1 Means: I had interest in stuffs like being in two places at the same time. Was is known as 'past tense'.

2 means: Eckankar says this interest (in being in two places at the same time) was unnecessary for someone who is in search for truth and the Holy Spirit.

3 means: Eckankar says seek first the kingdom of heaven, and all of these can be yours.

...hope this works

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 7:52am On Apr 02, 2023

Dtruthspeaker:
At least you have accepted that you are do not want to be normal and therefore you sought for abnormality.

Secondly, the church folk are praying for an abnormality, and not praying to be abnormal.

Basic semantics: 'abnormal' is an abnormality. The difference is that the later is a noun and the former an adjective. I may have confused you the more...

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 7:47am On Apr 02, 2023

Dtruthspeaker:
And that is why, you are lost, for you think that God/Christ is about acquiring power and that is what you are trying to mine.

You are no different from those who think that pursuing God and Christ will make them rich and very rich.

You seem lost. Let me step down the post. Kindly take not of the boldened:

Yes, being in two places at the same time was my interest. Eckankar thought teaches that it is an unnecessary distraction for someone in search of the Holy Spirit or God.

Eckankar advocates to seek first the true kingdom like Jesus said and all those 'side attractions' would be yours.

This does not how ever negate that the developed should not be able to function like the Holy Spirit like being in two places at once. Isn't it what drives some folks in church when "gifts of the spirit" is mentioned? I won't demonize being in two places at once.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 7:00am On Apr 02, 2023

Dtruthspeaker:
If you were normal you would know that you are not supposed to be in 2 places.

Who said one is not supposed to be in two or more places at once?

'Normal' is a very relative word. Most people (like me) prefer not being "normal".

Interestingly, the whole of Church prays for abnormal things like "miracle money", Moving mountains from one place to another, turning water to wine, rising from the dead and rising dead people, walking on water and disappearing. And Jesus even said his followers should do more than him...what is "more"?

I am not sure where you are coming from or where you are headed, but based on the above, I am sure that 'normally', na Bible you dey argue.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 6:58am On Apr 02, 2023

Dtruthspeaker

Some of the things of God may appear shocking and unbelievable to even those who think are the focal point of anything 'God'.

The spiritual destiny of each Soul whether animal, plant, mineral or human is to grow in spirit to the level of the beings like Jesus and this very being we're discussing.

It is a fact that Soul is everywhere at the same time. IT has the seed of omnipotence, presence and science.

This is where the kind of teachings and experience Soul is subjected to determines its unfoldment.

Unfolding to what? Unfolding to IT's divine nature. This is one of the job of this Saint who John describes here. He takes ready Soul into the heavens like John to see things about God, themselves and how to help themselves reach the heights of enlightenment and their fellow men.

Christianity Etc › Re: ECK Sunday Service 2nd April 2023 by chieveboy(op): 6:47am On Apr 02, 2023*

If you're not attending, singing HU while you walk on the street, before and after bed and any other moment is a new flex you just learned.

It can be sung silently or aloud. Focus should be on the heart. Allow it to reverberate in your heart region. You will now know that Love indeed is the golden key to the riches of God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: ECK Sunday Service 2nd April 2023 by chieveboy(op): 6:30am On Apr 02, 2023

It is a Reality that singing HU not only heals broken hearts, restores hope and uplifts the singer in all ramifications.

It is a sound that protects. It is the most powerful word a person can be given for personal protection.

In each Light and Sound service, HU is sung for 30minutes (8:00AM-8:30AM). This then becomes a golden moment where Soul sings it's heart out to it's creator.

Life becomes golden once more because an opened heart is an opened door to the riches of heaven.

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Christianity Etc › Re: ECK Sunday Service 2nd April 2023 by chieveboy(op): 6:24am On Apr 02, 2023

*INVITATION TO ECK LIGHT AND SOUND SERVICE*

Dear Blessed One,

ECKANKAR Nigeria, Abuja Centre cordially invites you to an *In-Person* and *Online HU Song* and *ECK Light and Sound Service* scheduled as follows:

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Christianity Etc › ECK Sunday Service 2nd April 2023 by chieveboy(op): 6:23am On Apr 02, 2023

Hello guys, it's another opportunity to edge closer to source of divine guidance via the avenue of the Holy Spirit.

Kindly join an ECK Light and Sound service and experience the Sound of God. This brings healing, answers to questions, and many miracles and blessing that awakes you to the blessings of God which surrounds us all.

Link below:

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 7:44pm On Mar 31, 2023

elated177:
Don't be shy. Expatiate the bolded. Hold nothing back.

The italicized portion has shown your error.

Okay

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 7:44pm On Mar 31, 2023

elated177:
What kind of prophecy? You mean you prophesied?

What languages did you did speak in?

Traveling in dreams? How do you mean?[/quote]I am not sure why this is important to you, I believe you mentioned I made an error, perhaps you have the correct information about what happened to me?

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 7:22pm On Mar 31, 2023

elated177:
Chieveboy, you are in error.

Where please?

Music/Radio › Re: No Competition - Davido Ft. Asake (Official Audio) by chieveboy(m): 6:55pm On Mar 31, 2023

Cool

Music/Radio › Re: No Competition - Davido Ft. Asake (Official Audio) by chieveboy(m): 6:54pm On Mar 31, 2023

Killbillz:
I regret downloading it this morning. It's just about yansh and how his babe is the best and finest blah blah blah... fuckn empty song. I prefer the track 8: Away

All of those are positive, negativity depends on who is looking.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 6:49pm On Mar 31, 2023

It is also noteworthy that this being was who appeared to Jesus during the transfiguration where it was reported that it was Moses.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 11:41am On Mar 31, 2023

thorpido:
Okay.I wish you the best.
I had a colleague like you.Started out seeking knowledge like you and delved into many things.
You spoke about 'trying to be in two places at the same time'.These were the kinds of knowledge he also sought.He's late now.

Yes, being in two places at the same time was my interest. Eckankar thought teaches that it is an unnecessary distraction for someone in search of the Holy Spirit or God.

Eckankar advocates to seek first the true kingdom like Jesus said and all those 'side attractions' would be yours.

This does not how ever negate that the developed should not be able to function like the Holy Spirit like being in two places at once. Isn't it what drives some folks in church when "gifts of the spirit" is mentioned? I won't demonize being in two places at once.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is That "One Like The Son Of Man" In The Christian Bible by chieveboy(op): 11:14am On Mar 31, 2023

thorpido:
Solomon knew something and that was why he wrote that in Ecclesiastes.

My brother, there is something about the mentality of church/religion. It's very subtle and you need to catch it. This is the tendency to suspend using your intellect to catch truth especially if what's written is not necessarily true...there is this fear zo challenge Bible grin

Regardless of your religion, know that you must be ready to question all things if your interest is the Holy Spirit. Only IT is the true living word. Books are books.

Sometimes seeking this knowledge can take you places........

It is a law of life (creation) that if you want something in life, you must pay dearly for it by way of giving it time, effort, sweat and even blood. Jesus wanted to save some folks, look what happened to him. Dangote must of endured hunger, rejection and suffering to be where he is today.

Solomon (equally) said "in all they getting, get wisdom". In your line of reasoning, we have successfully caught ourselves in the throat here right?

Please study the parable of the sower once again and contemplate it. That parable is actually on today's church.

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