omotech: l mean the energy saving bulbs, especially the 9 &14 watts thank you
I bought the LED bulbs on eBay and the CFL could have been purchased at Walmart. I am sure you can find them at Shoprite or any of the reputable sellers in Nigeria
A country that does not manufacture can't survive. We import the most basic items and expect to keep our citizens employed. For Nigeria to rise to preeminence she has to expand her manufacturing base.
LasgidyPort: Alright sir. Thank you so much. So what is the price range in Naija for those premium brand inverters (1.5KVA)?
You will be paying over N150k for them. Most of the high ends don't carry 1.5 kva in Nigeria. Visit the page of one of the contributors to this forum. Feel free to ask him questions about each Inverter. http://www.solardepotng.com/show_cat.php?catid=6
LasgidyPort: Thank you once again. The algorithm part is too technical for me oh. How do I identify the charge algorithm?
This are the specs I copied from Prag's site on their 2KVA:
Model 2KVA Rated Capacity 2000VA Rated Power 1400W Transformer C.R.G.O Interface LED graphic Display Status working & loading & battery Input Voltage 140~275 Vac Frequency 45~65 Hz
Charge Current Max. 10A/15A/20A optional Cooling System Yes
The part I highlighted, is that the charge algorithm?
No it is not. From what I read from your posting it has a very standard but small charger. Your 200 AH battery will require 13 hours @ 15A before it is fully charged.
What you want is an inverter that can take you through a 3 step charge process. Bulk Absorb and Float. Your batteries need to see about 29 V daily. This is done to help keep sulphation at a minimum and meet the daily usage parameters as set by the manufacturer.
The voltage range of 140-275 will panic me too. Would you want your flat screen or refrigerator seeing voltage that is that high? And you know the history of PHCN with bad transformers and fluctuating voltage.
Save the money and purchase the proper piece of equipment.
LasgidyPort: I also read diverse opinions on nairaland, and a lot of people believe Prag newest additions have been improved on. Abeg help
I have no personal experience with the inverters you mention. The Axpert by Voltronic is one that I have very good experiences with. Inverters should not really care who the manufacturer of the battery is. Look for an inverter with a good charge algorithm. Minimum you want is a three stage adjustable charger. Adjustment for battery type.
sarutobie: That is an African civet for Pete sake! This animal has been all but wiped out in this part of the world..when they are all gone what then do we do? Start hunting humans probably.
Pharyn: The Inverter and Disconnect Box (175A) are on the wall while the Central Stab (met on site, along with previous wiring) is sitting on the floor. The 8 Batteries ( US L16E XC2 6V) are on the other side of the wall outside, sitting on a metal rack, laid with plywood. A flexible weatherproof cover would be fabricated to shield the batteries from environment, yet allow hydrogen breathing.
The Client wants the remote to be with the Inverter and the Remote cable is so long to make the board look cluttered. I would still repack it well.
50mm cables were used all throughout (Inverter-Fuse-Battery connection) including battery interconnecting cables. Remains DC Grounding.
Special thanks to the House, especially the people that are always ready to answer Qs (richmon74, Abunafiu, solardepotng.com c0ogumo). Thanks for your support.
prince3009: OP, when did you get married to your wife?
I am single and yet i was able to decode the meaning of that dish served to you!
Your inlaws are smart! They just sent a message across to you via that plate!
Take a look at the way it was arranged.....
The Plate signifies your MARRIAGE.
See the beautiful patterns on the plate to show that your marriage is a beautiful thing on the outside but it is the experiences it comes with which is the content and edibles in it and HOW YOU REACT to those contents that matter.
Now here we go......
The Coconut that was arranged in the circle which is sweet to eat signifies the lovely times you will have at the earlier and initial times in the marriage.
Then after that, the Bitter-kola in the inner section signifies bitter and unpleasant experiences you will get to experience after the earlier times in the marriage due to quarrels, misunderstanding, pressure etc. You can see that they are in different varieties meaning that your marital problems will come in different forms but will have one thing in common (The will all be a BITTER EXPERIENCE FOR YOU)
But if you are able to persevere and endure by eating all the bitter Kola RIGHT ROUND without giving up, you will then come back to the Coconut which is in the middle of the plate which signifies sweetness! Eating that last piece in the middle will erase all the traces of the bitter taste of the Kolas and you will never remember you even ate anything bitter in the first place!
That is what it SIGNIFIES!
Oya....you must surrender your wife to me as punishment for not decoding this! (Only if she is beautiful o) #JustKidding
Since this is an experiment, we are prepared to make real-world measurements and realign as needed. Will keep you posted.
I am from the show me state. I will like to see your results. A very small sample that is statistically insignificant as per the article would not suddenly wipe away decades of research. Grid ties systems are a relatively new development in solar. The original installations were off grid.
Know how to apply an equalize charge and not damage the battery.
Stationary batteries are almost exclusively lead acid and some maintenance is required, one of which is equalizing charge. Applying a periodic equalizing charge brings all cells to similar levels by increasing the voltage to 2.50V/cell, or 10 percent higher than the recommended charge voltage.
An equalizing charge is nothing more than a deliberate overcharge to remove sulfate crystals that built up on the plates over time. Left unchecked, resulting sulfation can reduce the overall capacity of the battery and render the battery unserviceable in extreme cases. Equalizing charge also reverses stratification, a condition where acid concentration is greater at the bottom of the battery than at the top.
Experts recommend equalizing services once a month to once or twice per year. A better method is to apply a fully saturated charge and then compare the specific gravity readings (SG) on the individual cells of a flooded lead acid battery with a hydrometer. Only apply equalization if the SG difference between the cells is 0.030.
During equalizing charge, check the changes in the SG reading every hour and disconnect the charge when the gravity no longer rises. This is the time when no further improvement is possible, and a continued charge would have a negative effect on the battery.
The battery must be kept cool and under close observation for unusual heat rise and excessive venting. Some venting is normal and the hydrogen emitted is highly flammable. The battery room must have good ventilation.
Equalizing VRLA and other sealed batteries involves guesswork. Good judgment plays a pivotal role when estimating the frequency and duration of the service. Some manufacturers recommend monthly equalizations for 2 to 16 hours. Most VRLAs vent at 34kPa (5psi), and repeated venting leads to the depletion of the electrolyte that can lead to a dry-out condition.
Not all chargers feature equalizing charge. If not available, the service will need to be done with a device that is designed for this service.
jamp: hello people. we want to install solar lights in our farm. presently we use generator to power the bulbs. we have a total of 27-30 bulbs(energy bulbs) in the farm. please we need honest people to give us price for the cost of getting solar panels,charge contoller,inverter,batteries etc.
please send text to 08175286459 with the details. text only.
thank you
Get LED bulbs. How many watts are your bulbs and how many hours a day will you have them on.
samnaija: thnks for response the battery bank comprises of (6 batteries) each 2v 500ah connected in series to give 12v 500ah.60amps cc and about (6 panels 250 watts ) thnks alot.
Your controller at 12 V is limited to about 720 watts in panels. You might want to add a second controller. On a good day you are not getting the maximum from your set up. 500 / 60 = 8.33 hours is how long it will take to charge your fully depleted batteries. You can theoretically shorten that to 5 hours with the second controller.
KOLAPO3: I am also having some challenges with my mercury 2.4 inverter and 2 genus batteries 200ah. I purchased the system 3months ago Since phcn has been better over the last 3 months in my area I have enjoyed the set up. But now things are back to a bad state.i have a lot of questions. It takes almost 24hrs to get the batteries charge to full. Eg 7 hours of charge (5hrs generator 2 Nepa) Only lasted for 3hrs with just 2 ceiling of fans I am really confused Please help
A ceiling fan is not really that much stress. Go online and look at calculators and it will show you that your ceiling fan is anywhere from 60 to 75 watts. What is the size of the charger in your inverter? 200 / charger capacity = hrs required to fully charge 200 AH battery bank. This assumes that there are no other loads on the system. You should never fully discharge your batteries. I am going to attach a chart for you to use. Bringing back to 24 volts does not mean you have charged it. http://atlanticwastepower.com/faq-2/battery-voltage-charts/
adrusa: As to solar support, it will depend on how much NEPA do you get per day. What SOC/Voltage do you get to in a typical morning after overnight use. It is presumed that solar will charge your battery for about 4-5hrs on good sunny days. You can calculate how much solar you will need based on SOC/Voltage of your battery in the morning and what current (in ampere) will you need to put your battery back to full charge in about 5 hours.
You need to revisit your advice. The state of charge in the morning does not determine his calculation for solar.
He needs to look at appliances, lighting and load he intends to power, calculate the number of hours he intends to run each. The final number is his Watt hours.
He divides that number by sun hours to get the size of the array. That same number divided by his inverter voltage also gives him the AH he uses. At a 50 % SOC he needs to double that number to get his battery bank.
Saipro: You're quite right the likelihood of a battery exploding from overchaging AND internal shorts are quite small (about 10 - 20%) of all battery explosions. Most are due to ignition from an external spark. That data is from countries which keep statistics. I have no clue of local statistics. Indeed, asides from one and only one incident, all battery explosions I have witnessed are from external sparks. I periodically overcharged dying car batteries to revive them WHILE MONITORING BOTH SG AND TEMPERATURE. I still tried reviving one two weeks ago over a period of two days. I had about 30% success but it came to life sufficiently to be of short-term use. One should be safe doing that. However ......
In as much as it might seem a funny comment, those who've experienced explosions (I have a friend with a scarred lower face and upper torso) will tell you it's a life altering experience not to be taken lightly. Remember, most of the things posted here are not for the sake of the pros but for the amateurs.
Sapiro. Point well taken. In the NABCEP approved classes that we have to take to install solar power, they over stress precaution. Gloves, eye wear, plastic coated tools and so much more. The comment being funny does not make it any less serious. Thank you for the rejoinder and reminder.
kiekie1: Thanks... Images can be shared since its basically for sales reason ...mind you I never copied it from you, what point are you actually tryna make here tho, I can send you enough stock pictures from various warehouses if you need cos there is no patent right governing product pics and sharing for resales sake.! Weekend regards!
There are laws that govern image (creative laws) use without you giving credit to whom the image belongs. What you lose is not worth the short term gains that you get.
Saipro: Indeed. You're quite correct. However, above all outcomes you might seek, bear your own health and safety in mind. The batteries have one foot in the grave, not you.
Funny comment. Safety is important. I am not convinced that an over charge lasting an hour would result in an explosion. Many people here have deliberately shorted batteries and they did not explode. At the end of the day we all do what we find comfortable.
Saipro: There are lots of reasons postulated for the positive/negative terminal batteries failing earlier but the truth is, many at times, for no discernably obvious reason, they simply fail. Just like that.
I have great faith in desulphators as I have used a few with testimonies (Abunafiu is aware of this) but the issue of equalizing sealed lead acid batteries/AGM batteries ...... .... at best, one would be killing the batteries faster (shortened lifespan/cycle life). Note that the risk of explosions become real when equalizing AGM batteries. A suitable alternative might be holding the absorb (or bulk voltage for those which have different+higher bulk voltage) for many hours. Both safe and effective.
Oops, I've said more than intended
Thank you for your feedback. Like I said an instructor that teaches the class suggested it. I will try it. Granted for less than 1 hour. Another suggestion that I saw was to increase the float voltage by a few volts for a few days. It is all experimentation. If it works we look like geniuses, if it does not we look like goats.
The batteries have one foot in the grave so why not?
abunafiu: Thank sir@ chris81964. The inverters in question are the popular indian brands we all know. The battery used are 200ah of the same indian brand name. Yes most of these clients deplete their bank up to 100% dod. The issue now is most of the inverters have battery low voltage alarm usually at 11.0V and wt this level of discharge a significant number cycle life is lost. How come its only one battery that suffers this ill fate?
most installers are faced with same problem. let's discuss
I don't do the Indian brands. So I am not familiar with them and can't give a qualified opinion. The reason why they list cycle uses on batteries is so that you know the maximum and minimum voltage you can charge the batteries to. When they are not charged properly sulfation occurs and there is no particular manner in which it occurs. Differences in tightness of your lug, distance of battery to the charge source, imperfections in the battery can be the reason why one fails before the other.
I attended a class over the weekend and the instructor told us that you can equalize your sealed batteries. Give that a try and see if it will bring it back. At 12 Volts your battery is flat. It is beyond flat at 11 volts. You might want to set the alarm for 11.5 Volts.
Run the equalization and get a desulfator. The instructor swore by them. If the batteries are not too far gone you might be able to rescue them with the suggestion that I made.