Politics › Re: Hidden political-culture of succession in SW Obaship Exposed by chrisblack: 3:47pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
igbobuigbo: We need legislation to eradicate rituals, cannibalism - Erelu Lola Ayonrinde -Raises posers on Oba Funso Adeolu's corpse
Erelu Tunwase AyonrindeErelu Tunwase of Ode-Remo, Chief Lola Ayonrinde, who is the Otun Iyalode of Shomolu and Lagos District, and also the Yeye Akinrogun of Ikeji-Ile Ijesa was twice Mayor of the London Borough of Wandsworth. She talks to AYO-LAWAL GBENOBA on her campaign against human sacrifice and cannibalism in Nigeria. Excerpts:
WHAT is your campaign all about? The �Say No To Cannibalism In Nigeria' campaign is aimed towards eradicating the ancient and obnoxious practice of mutilating the bodies of traditional rulers after death. The rituals and sacrifices parts of the body of a dead king, especially in Western Nigeria, are used for are barbaric and a disgrace to the country in this 21st century. The movement is out to stop these evil practices which are not in consonant with the will of God and against the fundamental human rights of the affected traditional rulers. When a king dies, they say they have to give his heart to his successor on the throne to eat. They explained that it will make the new king strong and courageous but, is that not deceit? How can eating somebody's flesh give courage to another person? They mutilate the remains of these kings and engage in fetish and obnoxious activities which add no value to anybody or the society in general.
Why do you need to feed an incoming royal father with the heart of a dead one? This cannibalism started with Christopher Colombus who believed that when a king ate the heart, or some other parts of a dead ruler, some major attributes of the dead was transferred to the new king. This is sheer cannibalism and has no place with God. And, I want the chiefs, the traditional rulers themselves and other stakeholders to know that any tradition that does not recognise God is doomed. The government must put a stop to this cannibalism going on in some parts of Nigeria because, it is even against the constitution of Nigeria. Section 38 subsection 1 of the Nigerian constitution gives every citizen the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, while section 17 subsection 26 declares that the sanctity of the human person shall be recognised and human dignity shall be maintained and enhanced. Where is the sanctity of the human person in all these? Where is human dignity?
What motivated this campaign? I was very close to the late Alaye of Ode-Remo, Oba Funso Adeolu, the popular Chief Eleyinmi of the rested Village Headmaster soap opera. Few months after his death on August 21, 2008, he started appearing to me and I had months of traumatic haunting. In his lifetime, Oba Adeolu was a Christian and he made it known that he did not partake in anything fetish during his installation as king. He explicitly, several times, demanded that when death came calling, his corpse should be handed over to his family so that he could be given a proper Christian burial. However, his corpse was not released to the family. After his death, he appeared to me several times, and kept telling me about many things. He said his corpse was handed over to the �odis' (slaves) who treated it like that of a criminal. They took bits and pieces of his remains for their own use while some parts were distributed to the four corners of the town.
It was while going round that I discovered what happened and I met some chiefs who confessed what happened but asked me to forget it because there was nothing we could do about it.
All the �odus' of Ifa do not approve using human beings as sacrifice, the constitution does not approve and to crown it all, God Almighty frowns at this practice, they are doing it to appease whom? Some of the kings today are enlightened and those who are born again Christians, like Oba Adeolu, are renouncing these things. So, why hold on to an obnoxious and barbaric act? Oba Adeolu believed he would be given a decent burial and that is why his ghost has refused to rest. Even in Ijebuland, these things were abolished years ago and Ijebuland under the Awujale agreed they would bury kings according to their religion.
So, how do you hope to stop the practice? We are canvassing that our traditional rulers should be buried whole, without being mutilated and it should be in the open. There is secrecy because of the evils attached. It is untenable scientifically that the heart is eaten for so and so reasons. To start with, let us have the installation of kings in the open, no aspect of the installation should be shrouded in secrecy. It should be a celebration of our culture so, why should it be shrouded in secrecy? When everything becomes transparent, it will even help younger ones to know more about our culture and we will be able to restore some of our societal values. Why should obas be laid to rest in a paganic manner? If a governor gives staff of office to a king, giving him recognition and authority, that king is under the governor so, why should the government condone barbarism in this age? The ministry of local government and chieftaincy affairs should do something about this, if not, the government is endorsing cannibalism. True that some of the kings went through these rituals during installation but those who opted out should be given that grace of opting out of the rituals in death. They should be buried according to their faith. The practice is a disgrace to the whole of South West because it is common there.
We are appealing to the traditional rulers who were installed through cannibalism to renounce it publicly and declare they don't want their hearts to be eaten or other parts of their bodies to be used for any form of ritual. Abolition of slave trade took place years ago. So, why do we still have some people in Ode calling themselves slaves (�odis')? We need legislation to stop the barbaric act and we are appealing to our lawmakers to rise up to this task of eradicating cannibalism in Nigeria. There should be a law backing a king to opt out of fetish installation and burial and it should become an offence for anyone to tamper with the remains of a king, for whatever purpose, or to give the body to the �odi' for rituals. The penalty should be without an option of fine so that the perpetrators would know how grave the offence is. The �odi' in Ode can be given money to buy goat, ram, cow, or whatever they need for sacrifice, if they must, but there must be total abolition of human sacrifice in the country. Efforts are being made by some Ogun State traditional rulers to stop it but some feel the fetish practice must be protected. The government must detach itself from it.
Internationally, human sacrifice, cannibalism, witchcraft and sorcery are illegal so, why should it be done with impunity in Nigeria, a country that is known as the giant of Africa? Infact, politicians should begin to include the abolition of cannibalism in their campaign programmes, and party manifestos by 2010.
What efforts have you made so far to network and get people involved? We give glory to Almighty God. I have spoken to so many kings who secretly don't want it and we are telling them that they should make an open declaration against these evil practices. The campaign would be boosted if they do because people believe they all knew and agreed to these evil practices before being installed. We now call on the royal fathers again, in the name of Almighty God, to declare publicly that they don't want these fetish practices to continue. I have carried the campaign to the international level so that Nigerians of affluence who are in diaspora would lobby the lawmakers and get a legal backing for the campaign to eradicate human sacrifice and cannibalism in Nigeria. A number of international media like the BBC have aired my interview on the campaign and some Nigerian people abroad are involved in the lobbying for a legislation to stop the obnoxious practices.
We call on the �oluwos' and �odis' in Ode to review the entrenched ill that has no value to the society. We appeal to them to accept cows and goats and allow our royal fathers to be buried according to their beliefs. Then, it was about time that the royal fathers are constituted into the House of Royals, like the House of Lords, so that they would have more power, say and patnership in governance. This would help them to contribute meaningfully to issues affecting them and the society at large.
http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-38377.html you have not chosen to write about how the Obi of onitsha burial rites involve human sacrifice but choose to write about that of the Yoruba's. for one as a christian i don't believe the woman's statement that the spirit of Eleyimi was appearing to her.so this contradict the statement that he wanted a christian burial,or are suggesting the spirit took leave of absence from heaven or hell to come and tell her to get the body back?please lets be rational with all this false stories. all kings in southern Nigeria one way or the other have this barbaric practice.or are you saying human cannibalism is not synonymous with the south east? this is a link of the traditional procedure for the burial of the OBI of onitsha. mind you the part of human sacrifice nowadays is done in secret. http://amightytree.org/obi-okosi-ii-death-and-burial/ |
Politics › Re: Ooni Of Ife: Person Supposed To Be Buried With Ooni Runaway by chrisblack: 3:36pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
writer2000: I agree with you. I said it before, every yoruba man and woman has diaboolism in his or her blood, whether a christian or a muslim. Beware of these people, I repeat beware of them, remember an Oba's statement on recent crashed helicopter. u are free to agree with whatever he calls himself.(damosthhotest)he actually open a tread with the statement above,posting fake Pictures only for him to be busted immediately closed the tread.even obi of onitsha burial happens to do the same.this traditional part is always done in secret.i can say it even in igbo land this ritual is practice down to calabar. so your case is just a pot calling the kettle black.tell him eastern part of Nigeria where there are no traditional institutions whith secret activities only the initiated participate and that are not hidden to the public? |
Politics › Re: Ooni Of Ife: Person Supposed To Be Buried With Ooni Runaway by chrisblack: 3:30pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
writer2000: I agree with you. I said it before, every yoruba man and woman has diaboolism in his or her blood, whether a christian or a muslim. Beware of these people, I repeat beware of them, remember an Oba's statement on recent crashed helicopter. igbo woman whey they shout jesus and just because of a fight between her child and that of a neighbor .children of jus 5 yrs old .took the neigbours child and dumped in a well.so you are telling me the like of chiwetalu agu orozuokwu are no longer in igbo land? or there are no more dibia's. stop deceiving your self every one knows your acclaimed Christianity is money or ritual based |
Politics › Re: Ooni Of Ife: Person Supposed To Be Buried With Ooni Runaway by chrisblack: 3:24pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
can you tell me about Nngwa People.Tell me which region is synonymous with cannibalism talk now.even ibos they doff their hats for them. even all this talk about abobaku is just stating what is common to all african traditions.even the early European civilization practise it.i tell even in the East it is practiced even down to calabar to me its a bad practice which i will never support.the facts remains it is practice in most sub Saharan state including the eastern Part of nigeria. presently due civilization and modernity. this aspect is no longer done in the presence of people but in secrecy. Please read about the burial procession for the Obi of onitsha here http://amightytree.org/obi-okosi-ii-death-and-burial/(Modify) (Quote) (Report) (Share) |
Politics › Re: Ooni Of Ife: Person Supposed To Be Buried With Ooni Runaway by chrisblack: 3:23pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
see ur self damosthottest. simple lie you cant even tell .even looking at the picture it not even Nigerian. even a junior secondary school student will tell you this look more of Southern African in nature.i know you are from the SE.this bitterness for Yoruba's is seriously eating you up.when your obi die do we bother how many heads go along with them.you guys just enjoy taking panadol for another person's headache.you may ask how i got to know the pic is south Africa? look at the pic .that is a land rover version which is no longer common in Nigeria but high used in the southern and eastern parts of Africa for safari,and remote locations research.all this men of God i pray them no get your time.you think they are like Rev King? |
Politics › Re: Ooni Of Ife: Person Supposed To Be Buried With Ooni Runaway by chrisblack: 3:22pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
disumusa: to killed and buried with king by Yoruba's which is common in Africa or to kill human being and eat daily basis by Igbo which one is more barbaric. to killed and buried with king by Yoruba's which is common in Africa or to kill human being and eat daily basis by Igbo which one is more barbaric. forget this damhottest or what so ever he calls himself. his hatred for yourubas hhis legendary.a similar tread of his was just busted where he posted fake pictures.immediately the thread was removed. (0) (Reply) (Un-Follow) (Go Down) Where Are Yoruba Pastors?: Photo Of The Man To Be Buried alive With Ooni Of Ife by damosthottest: 1:19pm BELOW IS THE PHOTO OF THE MAN TO BE BURIED WITH THE OONI OF IFE IN YORUBALAND. VERY SHAMEFUL INDEED. YORUBA MEGA PASTORS ARE BUSY EXPLOITING THEIR MEMBERS. EVIL IS GOING ON IN THEIR LAND, THEY KEPT QUIET. THEY HAVE THE AUDACITY TO GO TO OTHER NATIONS TO PREACH AND CONDEMN EVIL WHILE THEY LIVE WITH EVIL IN THEIR HOME AND THEIR PEOPLE ARE UNREPENTANT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS TYPE OF HYPOCRISY BEFORE. INSTEAD OF CONVERTING THE EVIL DOERS, THE EVIL DOERS ARE CONVERTING THEM. This is Yoruba in 2015 ,this is a man they will bury alive with the Oba Sijuwade . Where are the ADEBOYE OF RCCG ,WHERE ARE ADEKOYA OF MOUNTAIN OF FIRE ,WHERE ARE THE oyedepos ... Does it mean that Yoriba religion starts and end with TITHES AND OFFERING ? CAN THEY STAND BY AND THIS MAN IS OFFERED AS A LIVING SACRIFICE on the altar of barbaric tradition ? https://m./539554826108956?view=permalink&id=979943845403383(Quote) (Report) 4 Likes (Like) 1 Share (Share) Re: Where Are Yoruba Pastors?: Photo Of The Man To Be Buried alive With Ooni Of Ife by Sapphire06(f): 1:27pm what da f**k See stomach (Quote) (Report) (Like) (Share) Re: Where Are Yoruba Pastors?: Photo Of The Man To Be Buried alive With Ooni Of Ife by Txonyi(m): 1:35pm Where are the sophisticates? Let them come and disprove this news. Nigeria is dead, in Biafra we stand! Immagine wha these niqqas are still doing in 2015! Choi!!!!!!!!! Una education na for fancy i swear! Well we are more educated and enlightened than you sophisticates, this news is an evidence! (Quote) (Report) 3 Likes (Like) (Share) this is the link from were the picture was gotten from which he croped http://www.brimtime.com/2013/11/ethiopian-men-compete-to-be-fattest-in.html?view=sidebar&m=1damosthottest the liar |
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Politics › Re: Khadija Dare unvielled by chrisblack: 2:06pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
dokiOloye: Some ppl are really learning fast from their masters. Dem don learn to de do almajiri. Dem don learn how to behead,join ISIS,etc. I de laff oo na Yoruba u see. wait when ibos join for money. mind you some yrs a go i met an Ibo Muslim missionary on my way to yola i was shocked. on interaction he told he was a missioner for an islamic sect from Iran this baffled me till today.so any person from any tribe or country can be found in isis |
Politics › Re: Pastor Chris Okafor Predicted The Lagoon Helicopter Crash by chrisblack: 2:04pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
ketekete: He said, “God revealed to me that if prayers are not offered, the air disaster may occur and would claim many lives.” forget all this stories. Why didn't he offered prayer or his church? i dont like Pastors that come to claim glory or popularity on the cries of others. Our God is loving and caring. our lord is not an opportunistic being.if God asked you to offer prayers why didn't you.only for it to happen so that people can start rushing to their churches |
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Politics › Re: Don’t Encourage Corruption, APC Cautions Sultan, Oritsejafor, Kukah, Others by chrisblack: 1:37pm On Aug 14, 2015 |
Mogidi: When is Tinubu returning his loots? show or tell us what he has looted.you keep complaining. this is a guy that has never held any post at the federal level. you people complain about his tax firm. it is a global practice for a tax consulting firm to take a percentage of what so ever tax they generate for any organization. mind you the PDP held sway for 16yrs. if they had any solid evidence they would have nailed him.so any one that is proven to have stolen should face the book. obasanjo pursued ,jonah pursued and they all failed.simply because it is a global practice by tax firms.so please stop all this wailling |
Politics › Re: Mele Kyari Appointed As NNPC Head Of Crude Oil Sales by chrisblack: 9:31pm On Aug 13, 2015 |
DTaj: You people (Wailing Wailers) are so daft! So, the following people recently appointed by the same Buhari are not from the South anymore?
1. Mrs. Esther Nnamdi Ogbue as the new Managing Director of Petroleum Products Marketing Company (PPMC)
2. Engr. Chinedu Ezeribe MD Warri Refinning & Petrochemicals Company (WRPC)
3. Mr. Ladipo Fagbola will now head the NNPC Retail
4. Mr. Rowland Ewubare, Managing Director, Integrated Data Services Ltd (IDSL)
5. Mr. Modupe Bammeke, Managing Director, NNPC Properties
6. Mr. Sejebor Dafe Stephen was redeployed from the Nigerian Gas Company, to serve as the Group General Manager, NAPIMS.
7. Chidi Momah is to serve as the new Group General Manager, Company Secretary & Legal Adviser of the NNPC.
Only God can purify the dirty souls of the Wailing Wailers! Dumb people!!! amen |
Politics › Re: Former Governor Of Akwa Ibom State Senator Godswill Akpabio Speaks On Biafra by chrisblack: 8:32pm On Aug 13, 2015 |
truefact: The Suffercated cowards are bigots, myopicals, and hypocrites....., incestuous, ritualistics, and jujustic ...betrayers, backstabbers, and gossipers,...chestbeater , talkatives, and propagandists,...Scratchfaceds, coneheads, and foulmouthers,....amalaeaters, ewadueaters and kolaeaters, ....wellwaterdrinkers, punyyjuicelickers, and bloodsucker....dirty, bad and evil,.... laziests, fearers and weaklings......ugliers, darkiers and winchs....agberos, touts, and bastards....owambes,fuuls and losers, thiefs, criminals and killers......liars,beggars and slaves of Hausa-Fulani one Nigeria
Yorubas are simply winchy winchiers, envious haters, cheaters and parasites , truefact: The Suffercated cowards are bigots, myopicals, and hypocrites....., incestuous, ritualistics, and jujustic ...betrayers, backstabbers, and gossipers,...chestbeater , talkatives, and propagandists,...Scratchfaceds, coneheads, and foulmouthers,....amalaeaters, ewadueaters and kolaeaters, ....wellwaterdrinkers, punyyjuicelickers, and bloodsucker....dirty, bad and evil,.... laziests, fearers and weaklings......ugliers, darkiers and winchs....agberos, touts, and bastards....owambes,fuuls and losers, thiefs, criminals and killers......liars,beggars and slaves of Hausa-Fulani one Nigeria
Yorubas are simply winchy winchiers, envious haters, cheaters and parasites , all these boils down to the fact u can not stomach the defeat handed to u by the same people youve called all manners of names. They defeated you with just common sense.that is why they are political more astute.ur anger is simply because yorubas did not play along with ur myopic and greedy political choice .even your support for jonah was not because of ur love for him but based on your manipulation of is govt to ur favour.ur anger is because u lost out.no matter ur rants yoruba people will never bend their political philosophy or beg indirectly to be given post.they fight for what they have.they will never support a politician blindly when its obvious he is not performing even if he is their own.you bitterness will only keep rowing as they keep progressing.u call them chestbeaters thats the most funiest of all.who is the greatest chest beaeter.i dare you to declar ur biafra tommorow and see how many of your brothers would follow back.serious easterners are busy people going about there business.i just got back from calabar.even the chaps there know jonah failed.u like till jesus come ,ur rants changes nothing.learn to play good politics.okorocha warned u.u didnt listen,ogbonaya onu warned u .when zik supported ahmadu bello against awolowo u hailed him.now when yorubas supported buhari against incompetence and economic failiures ur are angry all because the coruption favoured u |
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Politics › Re: Mele Kyari Appointed As NNPC Head Of Crude Oil Sales by chrisblack: 3:26pm On Aug 13, 2015 |
jaykaylegend: Baba even if you like appoint zahra as NNPC DG I dey your back
#BabaGoSteady #SaiBaba no mind them this people seems to forget alot. U have some one from the south that have held that position for some time and is now replace by another that is balance.this barcanista is a bigot.when jonah had most of the positions to the south who complained they never new when u concentrate all major positions to a part when next that part will loose out cause the next time it will be zoned to the other part.so when we had most positions in the last dispensation going to se and afew to ss.tell me are they still to retain that.those post would naturaly go to the other parts.so al this shout i will say 95% in not justified.anyway they are free to call themselves 5%.me am 100%. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Charges Nigeria’s Military Chiefs To Defeat Boko Haram In 3 Months by chrisblack: 3:14pm On Aug 13, 2015 |
worthytalk: baboon bugarri charges the zoo soldiers to protect baboons and monkeys in the zoo. your orangutan ancestors & decendants have never and will never get to an elevated position as small as even CDAChairman in any locality in this world and within d so called zoo, even if they ave tried they would be pulled and disgraced .rubish.just because he appointed services chiefs u feel he should be insulted.why are you so bitter.you have never suggested what can move this country foward only to say things that is sad anyway u like wailer i know the orangutan caste you belong to. |
Politics › Re: IT Firm Denies Receiving N78million For Fashola’s Website by chrisblack: 9:07pm On Aug 08, 2015 |
Arrester171: 10 million is extremely much for a Wordpress website. Criminals everywhere. my guy get your facts right. There are many WordPress site that are expensive. Have seen sites that cost millions to setup.am presently working on a site now.we spent millions and it based on WordPress.there are in house plugins we are building for it.so for you to say that he shows you know nothing about webdev.may be you are just among this cut and paste Dev or template Dev.mind you I don't write the codes but I over see the admin and financial aspect of the business.we even have remote Dev from India,pak and some Asian countries. Quality website cost money.ask jumia ,theirs was in millions.serious millions |
Politics › Re: Niger Delta: Buhari Made Me Cry Today, Essien Attah by chrisblack: 8:15pm On Aug 08, 2015 |
omenka: You know their MO too well bro. They've already arrived. These guys would call Asari Dokubo and Tompolo Ab¤kis pretending to be Niger Deltans if they criticised Jonathan tomorrow and praised Buhari.
It is just how they roll, and we've come to accept them for who and what they are.  dont mind them they want to start saying that ss are not called attah.pls come to akwa ibom attah is a normal name. Yeye people that only see their own colour of truth tru the anus.6yrs ogoni land beging a fellow ijaw/ss.nothing was done.they even plan stealing the money set aside for the project.under 3months a serious leader directs the full implementation of what the whole world agreed was needed to be done.the beauty was even in the composition of the panel.i pray they see the implementation to the end. Over to the waillers |
Politics › Re: Rivers PDP Hails Buhari On Implementation Of UNEP Report On Ogoniland-thisday by chrisblack: 7:58pm On Aug 08, 2015 |
hinwazaka: I think you posted the wrong reply on the wrong thread. i agree,but he is very correct.can you pls open a new post with this and let people really understand this fact.many ss voted out of the feeling that jonah was our own .no matter how bad your son is you will never give out to the lion to eat.the ss never benefited in anyway from jonah govt even in terms of appoitments.only the militants got some few goodies.many of the project were basicaly on paper unlike the se that got alot from jonah.in terms of corrupt enrichment they got more than any other region.the fact is jonah favoured the se more given out 117bn for a brigde and many other projects.even when the east west rd was totally abandoned.the yorubas voted marjorly against his percived incompetence and marginilization.the question i asked a friend some time ago was if ameachi was to run against a person like say atiku who would the ss and se vote for.the ss will vote for him while the se will .pls conclude . |
Politics › Re: Dasuki Weapons Claims And Nairalanders Ignorance by chrisblack: 10:53am On Aug 07, 2015 |
Omololu007: u are not ok guy.T72 is mostly used by 3rd world countries....and u r very fool!sh for sayin alot of bomb cant destroy d T72.....d MBT of d russian ilitary is d T-90 dont mind him saying rubbish. Many countries making use the t72 are having serious problems maintaining it.they keep breaking down even russia is moving from t90 to t14 amatar series.the question is why are we not progressing with tech.there are othe solid and mordern tanks that best siut our immediate needs for now |
Politics › Re: Arms Bought By Jonathan Govt Haven’t Arrived Nigeria – Dasuki by chrisblack: 10:38am On Aug 07, 2015 |
operiot: You are right! u are right. He said the equipment were been hindered by some elements.mind you this is the nsa of nigeria who had the hears of mr president.and also all power that comes with it.so it is eitherthe group were pdp guys certainly they can not be apc cause they would have u them for political campaing or arrested.they are either part of the group of scammers use in stealing money meant for weapons purchase.his role was to just give a slight complaint to show he was doing his work while at the long run he overlook the activites of this guys while collecting his share.u know now standard nigerian format.if u as the nsa can not get the equipment u claimed was paid for shipped into nigeria as at when due it shows u never cared for the people dying. Can any one of you tell me one equipment that was bougth that change the tide in the six weeks war.none. All equiment use were already in operation.the chadians change the tide with 2500 men and $1m we paid out per day.they have a better airforce than ours,while cameroun as better atillery than ours.simple.wit what the have spent and what we have on ground the differeance is just to much.check out indonesia and malayia spending within the same time frame with ours. See what they have turned there armedforces into.we out spent them.but what do we have to show for it. Buying t2 tanks to fight in a desert/unconventional war is funny. How many tanks does bh have.if not what was stolen from us.with simple anti tank missile it tuaa.u what boko taken towns and celebrating inside. Not airforce attack choppers or precision missiles to take them out.igirigiri apx is built in nigeria.proforce can build good apcs needed for this war.they are here in nigeria. |
Politics › Re: Arms Bought By Jonathan Govt Haven’t Arrived Nigeria – Dasuki by chrisblack: 9:39am On Aug 07, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Lol.
So, the relics haven't arrived yet, no?
I hope the country has a massive military museum to keep these sophisticated junk and relics, for viewing.
You can't even procure all the hardware listed here directly from the manufacturers cos they have been discontinued - I believe they ordered them from the black market, or from countries trying to dispose them. 
And F7 and supersonic should never be in the same sentence - that's the Chinese version of the obsolete MiG-21. please tell them. I saw a mig I'm markudi way back1987.the Chinese F7 is an adaptation of the main Mig21 which we have abandoned. It has I t of issues.it is not really effective they are just managing it.and this they claim is the latest in our fleet. |
Politics › Re: Arms Bought By Jonathan Govt Haven’t Arrived Nigeria – Dasuki by chrisblack: 9:33am On Aug 07, 2015 |
xaggar: And you think he has to spill the entire content of the purchase just to satisfy doubters like you? Where is his orientation as a NSA to keep secret things requiring confidentiality especially from the public? Is he in court so as to reveal everything to the world? How was the the turn around defeat of 14 local govt area possible? Why the drop in frequency of deserting soldiers? Why the sudden turn in troop morale from low to high? Some weapons were bought and used! I don't understand why u guys just feel everyone in the past administration should be lynched. Try to be reasonable in your arguments my guy let's be reasonable. He said they bought alfa jets .this is not true.ever since I was growing up alfa jets have been part of the AIRFORCE. He mentioned trucks.this is the cheapest they can get even within Nigeria. He talked about T2tanks what T2 in this present in time. All this things are not secrets.there is really no secrets in terms of weapons purchase any more globally. All you Are saying is just trying to personify failures. What has changed in terms of equipment in the war.the soldiers are still using the same ak47 or rifles. You guys fail to understand the actual dynamics of the six weeks Battle. Bulk of the fighting was by the Chadians 2500 men and the south African rented private commandos. Then why were we paying chad over $1m per day which we never gave our own soldiers. The ddefence,air and army immediate past Chief have all said the same thing.are u saying they are lying or no truth in them or only dasuki is saying the truth.nothing is hidden in global military purchases. Jane which is an authority will track it.even equipment's u never new when it was bought. Will be listed with dates ,countries etc.no need explaining all this you.you all like supporting failures and corrupt officials |
Politics › Re: See What An Igbo Boy Invented! by chrisblack: 9:07am On Aug 07, 2015 |
Melahou: ground breaking...  in what way if I may ask.this is just a toy that can never fly. It is only meant to be pulled by rope.I will still give it to the boy that he still thought of doing something creative with his time.this is just and artistic work not scientific or engineering. If you want to take me up u are welcome. |
Politics › Re: Arms Bought By Jonathan Govt Haven’t Arrived Nigeria – Dasuki by chrisblack: 9:02am On Aug 07, 2015 |
koboko69: The immediate past National Security Adviser, Col. Sambo Dasuki, (retd), has given a hint that some arms and ammunition procured by the Jonathan administration had not arrived the country.
The former NSA said that some elements whose identities he did not disclose were frustrating the nation’s efforts to get the critically needed equipment to fight the Boko Haram insurgency.
According to Dasuki, the government had to issue queries to some arms suppliers for the delay in the supply of the items paid for by the government.
Dasuki was quoted as having made the comment in an interview with PR Nigeria, an Abuja based Media Consultancy outfit for the Nigerian military and security agencies.
He was also quoted as having said that some of the equipment procured by the Jonathan administration would arrive in the country very soon.
“It was unfortunate that some elements are frustrating the efforts. We even had to query some suppliers for the delay in the delivery of arms and ammunitions,” Dasuki was quoted as saying.
Dasuki said that the previous administration acquired a lot of highly sophisticated equipment to fight and reclaim 22 local government areas from the insurgents after years of frustration by Western countries.
It was stated that the items procured included “Alpha jets, Armoured Personnel Carriers, MRAP vehicles, advanced artillery pieces, assorted arms and ammunition, highly sophisticated surveillance drones, T72 and carried out modification of F7 supersonic jet fighters.”
The items also include armoured tanks with comprehensive NBC protection system, Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles with capacity to withstand explosions, Improvised Explosive Devices and assorted armoured personnel carriers with effective protective system against small arms fire and shrapnel.
He said that the equipment were effectively utilised to recover 22 local government areas then under Boko Haram control and prevent the Boko Haram from disrupting the 2015 general election.
Dasuki was also quoted as having said that the security forces were able to use the equipment to prevent the leader of the sect, Abubakar Shekau, from releasing videos of threats against the country.
“We are glad that we also provided assorted Armoured Personnel Carriers to transport troops to the battlefield. They were armed for self defence and to provide protection from attacks from shrapnel and small arms fire.
“All these were acquired in the last one year after years of frustration by Western powers who denied us of the equipment and sabotaged our efforts to acquire same from other sources which are reasons for some delay in delivery,” he added.
http://www.punchng.com/news/arms-bought-by-jonathan-govt-havent-arrived-nigeria-dasuki/ this is serious .how can dasuki still have the joy of lying. This news is rubbish. Alfa jets are very old jets that even the AIRFORCE is tired of .this are jets that have been in the air for over 30yrs.so how come they are been mentioned as part of new procurement.the trucks are styer rucks. we have a styer truck manufacturing/assembly factory in bauchi.the F7 jets purchased from China were failures. One problem after the other.confirm this from the force.even the chines drones have been falling of the sky.the image resolution is very poor.in terms of the tanks they are not really needed for this type of war we are engaging.so placing emphasis on tanks is a total waste of time.in guerrilla warfare how effective have the tanks been.ask the Americans.we need more of air/satellite surveillance technology,powerful drones lethal and precision strike capabilities. Rapid air deployment capabilities for soldiers and firepower.let dasuki go and sit down.they never purchased any weaponry worth celebrating |
Politics › Re: US State Department Denies Oshiomhole’s $6B Story, by chrisblack: 6:40am On Jul 30, 2015 |
nnamdibig: Minister/$6Billion: US State Department denies Oshiomhole’s $6B story, asked him to name the US-Official–Reports New York[RR]Washington-DC–Edo State governor who accompanied Buhari in 4-days State visit to United States has alleged that A minister who served under the former Goodluck Jonathan administration, stole $6billion (more than N1.2 trillion), he told Reporters on Monday. But quick contact with United States Department in Washington-DC, on the matter said it is false allegation. US State Department denied the story, asked Oshiomhole, to name the official and not drag United States into Nigeria domestic politics, Republic Reporters gathered. Oshiomhole who failed to disclose the name of the minister said the details were provided last week by United States officials during President Muhammadu Buhari’s visit there. Mr. Oshiomhole, who was part of the delegation, did not give the name of the minister. “We have moved away from a president that doesn’t seem to know his powers to one that understands that he is a president of the country in the continent,” Mr. Oshiomhole said in response to criticisms of the trip by the opposition Peoples Democratic Party. He spoke on Monday at the state house where he and the Kebbi State governor, Atiku Bagudu, as members of the APC governors’ forum, briefed President Buhari on the outcome of a discussion held with APC Senators Sunday. “PDP destroyed the country- I mean from the lips of American officials; senior officials of the state department. They said one minister under PDP cornered as much as $6billion, and the man said even by Washington standard that is earth-quaking,” he said. He said the country was being very patient with the PDP; otherwise Nigerians would have been “stoning” anyone carrying the badge of the party. Mr. Oshiomhole said the PDP government plundered Nigeria, destroyed its institutions, damaged the military, converted the NTA to a party megaphone, destroyed the SSS, went after opposition, and compromised even student unions. Mr. Oshiomole said under the PDP, there was no law as they were law to themselves. “We are a very patient people. If we were not a patient people, anybody wearing the tag of PDP ought to feel very unsafe because you are all victims- all of us here,” he said. He quoted American officials as saying that Mr. Jonathan was seen as a confused president who did not know what they issues were, leaving others outside the country “frustrated”. Recalling a chat with the US Assistant Secretary of State, Johnnie Carson, on the difference between the two administrations, Mr. Oshiomhole said Mr. Carson told him that each time they thought that there was light at the end of the tunnel for Nigeria and it is time to encourage them to build on it, “you we would wake up the following day under president Jonathan to find out that even the tunnel had been removed”. “Now last week, this same Carson cheered the president’s address at the Institute of Peace. And he said ‘we now have a man of enormous integrity; one that has shown so much faith in the democratic process; one that refused to be frustrated even in the face of massively rigged elections,” he said. Update later….
http://republicreporters.com/minister6billion-us-state-department-denies-oshiomholes-6b-story-asked-him-to-name-the-us-official-reports when you they lie pls lie with sense. First where your lie became too obvious is america do not make use of Ministers rather they make use secretary e.g secretary of state or defence never minister. |
Politics › Re: Unmanned Bomb Detector Designed By The Nigerian Air Force To Battle Insurgency by chrisblack: 9:24am On Jul 29, 2015 |
johnnyblakes: . as well as this is good. My take on it is that it is not really the function for the AIRFORCE but rather the army or police.even if the AIRFORCE was going to develop something of such it should have a role to play in its core function of providing air superiority in any giving engagement. This function as so far not been properly meet.if the AIRFORCE designs and build air drones ,training aircrafts they would go a long way in performing their constitutional role.so let the defence industries army or police build this and you purchase it from them if the need arises.while the AIRFORCE concentrate on air superiority and recon solutions that will improve it capabilities. Thanks |
Politics › Re: PHOTO: Pres. Buhari Appoints Head of Amnesty Programme For Ex militants by chrisblack: 9:10am On Jul 29, 2015 |
chukwudi44: The fear of Tompolo my guy which fear .you no get the message?.he appoints a general as against Kingsley kuku a bloody civilian that was being pushed around by all this small boys.now come tell me how tompolo or asari would react.They understand Baba's body language more than you guys.they know this is different. The guy as full military support and backing.he can request for backup forces without stress. He can control the the situation at any point in time.this is the game.increase fire or reduce the fire where and when needed. Buhari is teaching this guys what it means to Bea general.simply I send one of my boys down there increase the fire hen I want.this is going to be different from when kuku was at the beak and call of the militants. If I was tompolo I would have kept my cool.and may be a civilian would have been appointed. This military guy is going to be bad market. The military is going to introduce divided and rule into the groups. It is a known fact that some benefited more than others while some did not even have the opportunity. So tell me what I'll you do.simply I will empower those that did not benefit under jonah.they will be the bulwark against tompolo and co .mind you they are more in numbers couple with overt and covert security agencies support. The rest they say its history.so guy they fear of bihari is the foundation for common sense. |
Politics › Re: We Never Denied Patience Jonathan Access To Vip’s Lounge At Airport – FAAN Says by chrisblack: 8:47am On Jul 29, 2015 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: See How Ethiopians Welcomed Obama, That “red Carpet” (PHOTO) by chrisblack: 3:43am On Jul 28, 2015 |
walexGodson: Na Ethiopia president rug he use welcome Obama that rug u guys are seeing is a product of Ethiopia.Ethiopians are very simple but proud people. they are proud of their heritage. The rugs Avery expensive cause the are hand made just like that of the turks |