₦airaland Forum

Icon4s:


Ademola Lookman and Solanke with their 2017 forms would make that Villareal team. Samuel Chukwueze in his current form would not have made the starting 11 of Everton or Chelsea of 2017. Laye-laye. Maitland-Niles was already getting a couple league games for Arsenal and was playing in most Cup games. Same with Sheyi Ojo at Liverpool. Edjaria featured more in Cup games for Liverpool. Chukwueze couldn't have broken into the starting 11 of Arsenal and Liverpool of 2017.

Bottom Line is Chukwueze cannot be said to be above the U20 game level.

Please can u give me the stats of those players prior the world cup? Compare it with that of Chukwueze today.

I repeat, before that world cup, Ejaria, Solanke, Tomori, Ojo, Gray, Niles didn't do more for their respective clubs than Chuks has done this season and they were no match for Chukwueze. Ojo really? Bros u really wanna compare Ojo's form before the world cup to Chukwueze's today? Chuks of today would send the then Ojo of Liverpool to exile. With all due respect my big bro, u goofed here. The only player who was as good as this Chuks, was exempted as an exceptional talent, and his name is Rashford.

Icon4s:
First Bolded, Samuel Kalu, Iwobi and Musa can all play from the right. Chukwueze has not done anything worthy of note in the SE for us to say we will miss him at the AFCON. Wetin him don play? Which highlight of his game in the GWG do you have? That was how we were shouting "Onyekuru, Onyekuru" upan dan here last year. In the games he played for the SE how far?

All the wingers u mentioned have nothing on Chuks on the right wing. Only Kalu can try to give him a run for his money there, buh we all know Kalu does better playing from the left wing. Musa has never been useful as a winger let alone the right wing. Keshi had to bench his ass in 2013 bkus he cudnt do no jack playing from the right wing.

Icon4s:
Can Villarreal that is battling relegation be compared with any of the Top 8 English teams? Can Chukwueze make starting 11 in Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Man United, Liverpool, Mancity or even Everton? These were the clubs majority of those boys were in then. And they were already getting a couple of minutes in the EPL and in some cases full 90minutes in Cup games.

Big lie bro, big lie

Most of those players wouldn't start for this struggling Villarreal team and Chukwueze of today would be in and around the first team corridors of those clubs u mentioned.

Reel out the names of those players and place them side by side with Chuks, then tell me something. Ojo, Solanke, Ejaria, Tomori et al, were not as good as Chuks is today, before they embarked on that world cup journey

Icon4s:
The U20 has always been a spring board for young professionals. But if you have a young professional who is a starter already in his club it doesn't mean he should be excluded from the U20 level. As long as he falls within the age bracket he is still within the U20 level. Why didn't Argentina stop Messi and Aguero from playing in the U20 WCs back then?

See ehn Sir Pee, I understand the angle u coming from, buh do we have a better winger to handle that right wing for the super eagles at the AFCON? Yes Chukwueze aint above the U20 tourney, age wise, buh he is ripe for the super eagles already. The question now is, where is his services needed the most, and what stage would most benefit both the nation and the boy's career?

When ghana won it, a certain Andre Ayew was playing for both the senior national team of Ghana and the satellites. I wish Chuks could combine the two just like Ayew did sha

Icon4s:
Maybe because he saw me arguing in favor of the English U20 Team.

I will always stand by the truth. Truth be told that English team was loaded with quality exposed youngsters.

Yea they had that exposure but none had done anything meaningful professionally prior that world cup. Pro the world cup sef, most have gone into oblivion. Their exposures no pass wetin Chuks, Orji, Kingsley already have

Icon4s:
He was probably expecting me to name those English boys. So predictable. I do not count my chickens before my eggs are laid.
I can only speak about players that are available to play for us.

U cant be that stewpid nah.

komekn:
They need to be cutting it at thier parent clubs and showing quality or playing U20 will amount to nothing for both the SE and themselves.

You can't push your professional career on youth football. It's a stepping stone to announce your potential not much more.

Potential not nurtured developed and enhanced will sadly fade away and be forgotten.

When you look at most top countries some of thier players have had 2/3 seasons of first team football. That's progression.

Can u answer this question below?

tbaba1234:
How many of the players in the last England under 20 had played a full premier league season. How many were starters in the premier league? How many were making waves in the premier League and other top leagues?

Even Pogba's all conquering 2013 U20 set were made up of prospects with less professional experiences. I could remember laughing my ass out whenever Sabaly(now plays for Senegal) was on the ball trynna do a Marcelo from his full back position.

When Cedric Bakambu, Gael Kakuta, Alex Lacazette and co beat us blue black in 2011, they were nothing professionally and that tourney went a long way to give shape to their professional careers.

komekn:
They need to be cutting it at thier parent clubs and showing quality or playing U20 will amount to nothing for both the SE and themselves.

You can't push your professional career on youth football. It's a stepping stone to announce your potential not much more.

Potential not nurtured developed and enhanced will sadly fade away and be forgotten.

When you look at most top countries some of thier players have had 2/3 seasons of first team football. That's progression.

Who would u rather he mentioned than those three? Of all those supposed countries with players already established club wise, who has a player better than Chukwueze? Thirdly, can u name one player from England who has played up to 3 professional seasons in the top leagues and still eligible for the U20 tourney?

Finally, this season, Kingsley Michael has won more MOTM awards professionally than all the players eligible to rep England in the next U20 tourney. Can u beat that?

Suretips1:
Maturity Is When You Ignore What's Non Of Your Business, This Is A Public Forum, So shut Up And Mind Your Business

Thats true buh stupidity is when u put square pegs into round holes.

Check again, what does the title of the thread read?

bobobooge:
Lost by 3 - 1

Chukwueze is way above that team. He was the best but they rarely gave him the ball and he had to spend the better part of the game defending.

When he scored he did not jubilate but ran to remind his team mate hugging the ball to hurry up.

It is clear the boy is a winner but his team is letting him down. They are full of schoolboy errors. Even the coach is suspect.

Last two games before this, dude didn't play up to his standard, and the shameless hungry hawks in here were already stretching out their dirty claws. Suddenly, they have all gone back to their smelly filthy caves(nests).

Chuks is class and will never be short of suitors, should Villarreal fail to beat the drop.

tbaba1234:
Atalanta have agreed a deal to sign Manchester City’s young midfielder Tom Dele-Bashiru.

One of Aigbogun's invitees from England. This is a great news. A CM by thread

Who else noticed we never saw this coming? No reported interests and links of any sort from the shitty Nigerian media. Thats how true deals happen, forget all these news of interests and links that never happen from year to year.

Ighalo to Barcelona and Tottenham

tbaba1234:
Fikayo Tomori has openly shown his interest in playing for Nigeria at senior level.

The boy should be grabbed NOW!!! He has improved so much..

Watchu got to back up the bolded bro?

elyte89:
Everything na interest according to sir chriskel,no concrete offer

All these yeye news dont move me no more. Until I see ur unveiling pics or clips on YouTube, I dont buy into these news of interests that never metamorphosed to real acquisitions.

Mickael2:
You and this your love for DRC and Ivory Coast

Lol u too dun join dem? OK oo

Icon4s:
Idowu is also good going forward. In fact his major weakness is defending/positioning in the defensive position.

Besides, henn.. Jamilu has not really come under heavy attacks for you to fully assess his defensive capabilities.

Heavy attack or no heavy attack, I have never been impressed by that Jamil Collins boy. Now thats not to support the idea of Idowu. To me, both are below average players. I wish we had someone like DRC's Arthur Masuaku, buh when the desirable aint available...

Icon4s:
You wan turn another Goldfish80 here.

No sir.

Danielnino00:
If ivory coast should bleep up at the AFCON, you will be at the receiving end of it on this thread

charlesemeka85:
Alavez get interest for igbekeme?

Too many clubs were credited with interest in Igbekeme against this winter window. Yet no move. Mikel Agu to Marseille nko? Abi make I begin reason Onuachu to Porto?

charlesemeka85:
Anderlecht interested in Simi nwankwo

Na only interests wey we dey hear of Naija players, shingbain move we no dey see mtcheew

Ighalo to Barca
Agbo to Getafe
Dennis to Gladbach
Igbekeme to Alavez
Onyekuru to PSG
Aribo to Hoffeinhem
Ebere Eze to Tottenham
Maja to Southampton
Mikel to many clubs
Moses to many clubs

Abeg we dun tire for dem links, make dem dey make the moves like others mbok.

Doumbia dun join Rennes already without haggles, Vakoun also dun join Celtic. Wetin our boys dey jonx us for sef?

Suretips1:
Kindly Speak For Yourself, Don't Generalize Or Mind Your Business, Or Shut Up And Move On

Ogbeni carry ur gambling tips go elsewhere abeg. Create urself a thread for that. No rational man gambles, it wrecks lives. It is never a reasonable means of livelihood.

tbaba1234:
Rennes sign Souleyman Doumbia from Grasshoppers.

Ivory Coast with another left back moving to a good league.

Someone has been infected

Cc mbjane-andrew444, Icon4s, junnyjake, Danielnino et al oya ooo

tbaba1234:
Borussia Monchengladbach and Bayer04 Leverkusen are interested in signing Dennis Bonaventure.

Besiktas from Turkey is also interested.

I hope he does not choose Turkey.

Such a delicious food without a sauce to enjoy it with?

tbaba1234:
Caleb Okoli of Atlanta listed as Nigerian on the club website. 17 years, already in the first team. No switch of nationality needed.

Aigbogun should be all over this guy.

I think, If u are not Italian, u are not Italian. Until they find any use for u, they will never consider u worthy of Italian citizenship. They dont care if u were born there or not, or how many years u have spent in the country. Angelo Ogbonna never got his until he was due for a national team assignment

tbaba1234:
Caleb Okoli of Atlanta listed as Nigerian on the club website. 17 years, already in the first team. No switch of nationality needed.

Aigbogun should be all over this guy.

Icon4s can u help forward this to NFF official Twitter handle? Also remind them of the dearth of quality CBs in our ranks

andrew444:
I agree with you ,but I don't think Moses will sit on the bench ,maybe Roy want to do change of information ,maybe Moses will play as a wing back .moses can never bench that kid aaron wan bissaka,that boy is good

Mikel will play as he don't need much running ,mikel is similar to that their penalty specialist captain ,Milvojevic

Moses can only do well as a wing back. Roy reverting to 352 formation to accommodate Moses automatically knocks out CP's three best players Zaha, Townsend and Bissaka. I doubt Roy would risk them for Moses. Like I said earlier, Moses would be a squad member at best. None of these three (Zaha, Townsend and Bissaka) will sit for him. To me, Moses moving to CP is irrational

Alfryd:
Crystal Palace want to sign Nigeria wing-back
Victor Moses, 28, on loan from Chelsea and are
also keen on former Stamford Bridge midfielder Jon
Obi Mikel, 31. The Nigeria midfielder is a free
agent after leaving China's Tianjin Teda. (Teamtalk)

Check this out;

And Moses will be out of favor at Crystal Palace too. Andy Townsend has the right side on the lock down, that young chap with jaw breaking name(Aaron Wan Bissaka) has the right back sealed up. If Moses goes there, he is coming as a squad member. Unless maybe the left side. Mikel if true, is also dicey, Kouyate seems to have found his rhythm, but I am seeing Mikel in a more advanced role, otherwise another squad acquisition. Roy na typical English coach who will demand 90mins running from his players. I am sure they both know this. Does Mikel still have those lunges?


Cc Oloye

Really crazy how some African countries handle their youth teams especially when it concerns players of dual nationalities.

Presnel Kimpembe, the best CB U20 in the whole of Europe, was a one time Congolese youth International, how they let that jewel slip through their fingers is heart breaking.

Aaron Wan Bissaka, one of the best RB U20, in the world today, was also a one time Congolese youth International, and he almost is lost to England just like Kimpembe was lost to France. Abeg wetin DRC FA dey smoke?

Icon4s:
Na those ones wan replace Ekong and Omeruo? Those ones wey go soon hang boots.

Nna ehn, we dey talk of young CBs that guy dey busy dey reel out names of oldies. I just weak

forgiveness:
Waste of talent in division 2. Injury brought him down.

Division 3(league 2) actually

Icon4s:
Petrobros don introduce one new one today "Opposition Party".

But I feel it is the other way round. It is those that have been criticising Rohr's lists and invitation of certain players while pushing for other certain players' inclusions that are the opposition party.

I still dey laugh here.

ChrisKels which party you dey?

Lol, na Petrobros know where I and everyone else fall in oo

Icon4s:
I have raised this issue before.

Not only Centre backs but even Full backs. The last LFB that rose through our youth system were Echiejile and Kingsley Madu. Stanley Amuzie was from U23. But where are Madu and Amuzie today?

At RFB, Musa Mohammed was given that position on a platter of Gold but he was found inadequate. Now asides Musa Mohammed who was the last Right Back from our Youths system? My mind can go as far back as Adefemi of the 2005 U20. It was lack of quality RB options that made Keshi convert Ambrose to a RB.

Dele Adeleye, Onyekachi Apam and Efe Ambrose were fine CBs that Siasia's 2005 U20 produced. Kenneth Omeruo (U17 & U20), Kingsley Madu and Wilfred Ndidi were defenders under John Obu's U20. And of course Ndidi was also a CB under Manu. But he now plays as a DM.

Largely Manu and Amuneke's defenders have not progressed well. Some of them u don't even hear of them again. Not even in the NPFL or NNL.

The onions now lie on Paul Aigbogun and the U23 coach to raise capable defenders (especially CBs) to immediately push for places in the Super Eagles. While we wait and see how Manu's U17 team will turn out. Else we are in for hard times in the defense.

Honestly it is alarming. That was why I was all out for the German guys back then. I can still remember ur words, "guy no worry, even if they don't come, it is no biggie, nature has a way of taking care of things" that made me pretend I wasnt worried all this while. Av bn waiting for that nature, ever since oo.

How I so envisaged a partnership of Akanji and Awaziem in the heart of Eagles defense, with the German guys(Toru and Uduokhai) looking in from the bench.

Kingsley Madu is one guy I had high hopes on after watching him under Obuh, beats me how he turned out a total fiasco

raindodger13:
Ive thought about it many times, which is why im waiting for Ebuehi to come back.

Ebuehi is no CB