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no. only choupo moting is the major new addition to their attack which is their main threat. for their defenders apart from teikeu, ngaleu and fai the rest are a bit inexperienced and light weight. midfield is decent but nothing spectacular aguissa is their main man. attack is where they have enough weapons to hurt us if we are not careful

Joebie:
Is Matip back?

from the list that the cameroonians have released it's still likely they will field their first eleven but from the chopping and changing in their list especially in defence and attack they are still looking for reliable backups for their first XI.

i have gone their squad list i think their goalkeepers are better no doubt ondoa stands out. defenders? nothing much stands out between them and us but they have the slight advantage because they have had more time to blend. midfield full of work men not much creative spark here we have an advantage which we should make the best use of. in attack the usual suspects plus the addition of potentially dangerous chuba moting. their attack is better in the sense that they have a better understanding of themselves. however if our attack can gel and build that chemistry we can wreck them

my early impression of their squad is that this is jam body in living colour. they are not coming to play so expect direct play long balls and crosses for their big physical forwards into our box. our defenders better get ready for a battle. that said this cameroon team is here for the taking with good coaching and cleverness on our part

DC comics did theirs some years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_DC_Comics_characters#Shango

hmmm wow very level headed and unbiased critique of nigeria by a foreigner. like i have always said nigeria, kenya and most african countries have too many problems to waste our time insulting each other. relatively for the resources available to kenya you guys have done fairly well and are on the right track. the negatives you guys need to work on are the slums issue and national cohesion question. yes you guys are more united than we are but there's still that under belly of ethnic tension which came to fore in the 2009 elections.

interesting take on the boko issue. have always suspected there is a big international conspiracy in that regard. yes the ipob issue is largely just a big political bargaining chip. the history of the biarra question you have a idea of though personally i think it's more complex than you painted it but i agree the greed of certain leaders was the genesis of it all

kikuyu1:
Ok,I'm on my laptop. Let me quote what a neutral source,one of NL's most perspicacious members,an Indian said on this thread previously.



In other words my opinion of Kenya vis a vis Naij hasn't changed;in fact its strengthened.

Earlier you asked:


Tbh,both of us are sailing in similar boats:we've both underperformed. I see you're turning away from the oil curse-finally! Imo,if you hadn't neglected everything else,your massive agriculture potential,large forest reserves and non oil mineral resources you'd now be a Malaysia or Indonesia at the very least with GDP PPP,respectively of 26k$ and 11k$. Yes! You could have and despite all that's been said on this thread I still hope you do-I don't want to see anyone especially fellow Africans suffer poverty.
However I do see 2 major obstacles on your horizon Boko Haram and IPOB bs.
BH French backers have too much invested to let go! Without their proxy war they've no claim to the Chad oil basin,(you do know Jean-Fraude's economy is based on aerospace tech,ie,Airbus and cheap oil from their African neocolonies;they go to war to protect the two economic pillars.) You've heard of French choppers carrying arms crash landing in Cameroon and a lone Frenchman either KIA or captured in Sambisa forest,servicing BH APCs. Fyi,911 was also an Airbus vs Boeing trade war but I digress. I don't see a conclusion to this war anytime soon. France knows without cheap African natural resources they're simply another Romania or Portugal. Until the NA can successfully confront their proxies like they did to Chadians in 83,the war will continue indefinitely.
IPOB noise about Biafra is a huge fcvking scam that shouldn't even be mentioned within whispering distance of moderately intelligent people! Igbos were behind a series of provocations that sparked off the civil war. Here's an Urhobo who was involved:


[url]Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup from Independence Day – David Ejoor[/url]

One of the Igbo coup leaders,Maj Nzeogwu calmly explains how he murdered the Sardauna of Sokoto and his wife in cold blood.

https://youtu.be/PJ2pcLO9HSc

Btw,he grew up in Kaduna and spoke fluent Hausa-what did you want the Northerners to think? Did any of the putschists ever think,"it might not be a good idea to kill unarmed civilian Northern leaders?"

Also,I discovered the Igbo aren't really indigenous to Biafra;the 5mn Ibibio are and want nothing to do with secession!



[url]Why Ibibio People Has Nothing In Common With Igbo Biafra – Ibibio Union[/url]

You can see their homeland has been subsumed by Biafra. What next? I'm not an expert but if you can fix economic issues those are your 2 major political issues.

Icon4s:
This turn around just because of the Benin game.

according to you.

goldfish80:
Players on stand-by will still be in their Base in Europe. However you look at it, it's going to be a rush job if we someone gets suspended or injured.

I see Ezenwa is getting a love in.... Lol
Shows how fickle Nigerian fans are. Just watch them deny they ever insulted Akpeyi if he produced a master class.

obviously you haven't been following the debate no one here is saying ezenwa is the reincarnation Buffon, Thomas Nkono, Peter scmiechel rolled into one. All we have been saying is that ezenwa is the better of the two bad options. To put it simply if hunger dey wire you and your only options are drinking garri or eating one packet of cabin biscuit. No one will tell you to drink the garri so in this case ezenwa is the garri we want to soak and manage

Icon4s:
Did you ever see Peter Rufai during his active days?

What was his major weakness if you saw him?

you are comparing akpeyi to Peter rufai?

the goal we conceded against senegal what led to it. against south africa the cross from the south african winger which he fumbled and almost led to a goal. against algeria he was supposed to come out and punch the ball he punched balogun instead and in the confusion we almost conceded. and that's the last three matches he has played

you have not answered the question why someone that couldn't be trusted for u23s in rio should be trusted in a crucial world cup qualifier against cameroon

Icon4s:
Abeg which simple cross?

egbon is it the nature of opposition that prevented akpeyi from knowing how to catch simple cross? ezenwa's own is even a little bit excusable he's homebased with lack of excellent facilities and coaching what is akpeyi's excuse? supposed experienced foreign based goalkeeper who is always jittery and playing like he's just making his debut. for goodness sake this is someone that couldn't command a starting jersey with u23s let me repeat U23! i'm not expecting magic from ezenwa but at least i expect him to get the basics right

Icon4s:
Because of the Benin game?

When I was painting it here that Ezenwa and Akpeyi are not as bad as you guys tag them to be you didn't understand.

Have you even considered the nature of opposition Akpeyi has faced for Nigeria?

Egypt, Algeria, Senegal, South Africa. Real serious attacking teams.

Ezenwa faced Benin home based players and you conclude he is lesser evil than Akpeyi.

Well..... your opinion.

egbon when you have two bad options you choose the lesser evil which in this case is ezenwa

Icon4s:
Bros where were you when Ezenwa was being laundered alongside Akpeyi on this thread?

ezenwa yes is not the best goalkeeper we have but i'm yet to see him commit the kind of gaffes akpeyi commits

Icon4s:
Ezenwa has been receiving some love.
Just because of that Benin game.

This was a goalie that was totally washed here and some didn't give him a chance to even make the CHAN Team.

Interesting.

same reply i gave icon

do4luv14:
lolzzz pastor!""""

so who should be there

i trust ezenwa. he has kept in a couple of our last matches admittedly chan games but he has grown in confidence and has been playing regularly. akpeyi on the other hand hasn't played much for his club of recent plus saying that his last matches for the national team have been jittery is an understatement

Icon4s:
So who mounts goal?

i think we have enough defenders. at worst ndidi and ogu can fill in

goldfish80:
Kayode not even on the standby list? That's quite chilling. A sucker punch to this list.
I have this feeling he will open his goal account this week in the La Liga, if and when this happens, Gernot Rohr and the Nff technical committee will look quite silly.

Why is nobody complaining about Victor Osimhen being excluded? I thought we wanted young light weight players to run the Camerounians to the ground.

It's high time people get to understand and live with the fact that Aluko is not on the radars of the national team handlers. Sad but true

Finally, I see we are one defender short. 7 defenders instead of 8 leaves the list one CB short. Since this game is a double header in quick succession, if we loose either of Ekong or Balogun in the first leg, we will be travelling to Yaounde with no extra CB on the bench.
I know Ndidi can fill in there but.... God help us

please we don't need uncertainty and high blood pressure. if he wants to ''redeem'' himself i know many redeem churches around

do4luv14:
I chooses AKPEYI , cos we need a match for him to redeem himself, plus I hope the new GK trainer, had work on his confidence,


cos those silly mistake were lack of confidence,

ask ENYEAMA

alternatively i could go like this

ezenwa/alampasu

aina ekong balogun elderson

etebo ndidi

v.moses mikel s.moses

iheanacho

my lineup based on the list available would be between 1. ezenwa/alampasu, 2. elderson, 3. balogun, 4. ekong, 5. aina, 6. ndidi, 7. mikel, 8. s.moses, 9. v.moses, 10. iheanacho, 11. etebo

i will play etebo in the false nine role

dude get out of my mind had a similar lineup going through my head only i hadn't quite settled on the goalkeeping and centre forward role.
i see you removed s. moses and put in musa in your reviewed post. i will still put in simon moses because the last game he played in against cameroon in that friendly he was a thorn in their flesh and also scored against them. still puzzled why kayode wasn't called up atleast he would have brought something different to the CF role plus convert to an emergency winger if need be. hope the coach has a change of heart and hands him a late call. apart from kayode's omission list is ok

TheGoodJoe:
..................................................Nwakeme(CF)
.S. Moses(LMF).................Iheanacho(AMF).................V. Moses(RMF)
................................................................Mikel(CMF)
............................................Ndidi(DMF)
......Echiejile(LB).....................................................................Aina(RB)
.........................Balogun(CB)....................Ekong(CB)
...................................................Alampasu(GK)

My preliminary starting eleven. There will be fluctuations in my list as camping reports filter in. Nwakeme got the nod ahead of Ighalo because of his skills and pace which I feel is a critical factor to break down the Camerounians.

S. Moses also breaks in over Iwobi based on the same criteria. He just needs to focus on working with his team mates. Iwobi needs to do lots of stamina training if he is to make it with the team. Based on stamina, speed and skills, Simon gets the nod.

Aina comes in based on his training with Chelsea and getting the nod to play under Conte. That is a big plus.

Alampasu gets my nod due to previous reports of his performance in camp. But, Ezenwa is a huge challenge.

Onazi dropped because of the gaps he left in the last game.

thank you. hope it works out the way you suggested would really add a necessary adrenaline boost to our economy

ultron12345:
1- the refinery has a capacity of 650k barrels per day. Nigerian daily consumption can be gotten from 450k barrels. So at full capacity, 70% of output will meet nigerias demand while the rest will be for export. But we can be sure that the refinery will not start at full capacity, it might start at between 65-80% capacity to reach full capacity maybe in not more than 2 months, so we can be sure that at no matter the capacity it starts, petroleum product imports will reduce to almost zero or even zero itself. But maximum, 2 months after that, dangote will be an exporter of petroleum products.

2-considering the low price of crude, reduction in logistics costs and economies of scale the refinery will enjoy, the production costs will definitely be less which should translate to a reduced price of petroleum products. If they decide to keep margins low, petrol should in the the region of N80-N95. However, since he is the only one in the market, he can choose to sell at any price he likes, 90, 120, 145, 300, 500 or even N1000 per liter. It will then be up to investors to build their own refineries to compete with him. The exact price cannot be determined now as it will depend on wether imports are banned, government regulation and other factors. We just have to wait till then.

3-There are massive storage facilities there in the refinery which would load into tankers. The entire place has already been planned to receive the heavy traffic of tankers coming to load products. I watched an interview on tv where a lagos state govt official said that only tankers supplying to lagos would enter the main Lagos town, the rest would pass from the refinery directly into Ogun state. I am not familiar with the road network around the area so I can't particularly say where tankers would pass, but I am sure all tankers will load at the refinery storage facility and provisions are on ground to accept the traffic.

4-crude will be sourced from the Niger delta, but if they start behaving funny, facilities are already under construction for the import of crude from other countries.

thanks for the enlightening answers. my take away from your post is one of cautious (extreme i might add) optimism. yes dangote is a business man who will want to make his money back but like you suggested fg might put pressure on him to ease up on the capitalism abit. one good thing also about this refinery is that the govt will no longer have an excuse to hang on those 4 money black holes we call refineries

jpphilips:
The Nigerian oil minister said its kicking off in 2018, in sync with Dangote's test run plans, while every maiden project comes with its unique challenges, its quite ambitious to say its a rubber stamp date of resumption, we can only hope for the best.



Dangote while he is bound by some level of domestic supply obligations his target market is the continental and global markets so don't raise your hopes yet.
On the flip side, his entry will influence some dynamics in the supply chain, Nigeria will conserve forex otherwise used to import products, Naira will strengthen and the flood gates of importation will start again.
The government may decide to ban such imports outrightly or make it difficult to access forex for that purpose, either ways, the whole monopoly arguement will start again, bla bla bla, Dangote will resist the pms 145 naira band, the marketers will strike for inclusion those are serious grey areas one can't just predict at this point. As expected, the prices are supposed to go down no doubt but in a capitalist economy, you cant be too sure.


While it is expected that a refinery of that magnitude will maintain a network of pipelines linking its surface storages nationwide, I think such projects wont commence immediately, perhaps 2-3yrs, from the little layout I ve seen of the refinery, my best guess is that he will rely more on Vessels for depot shipment through the water ways, he wouldn't want much of NUPENG wahala so I equally expect him to employ the Sino truck strategy for his tankers.



I think in the interim he may rely on Niger delta oil, however, he has stakes in several offshore oil blocks esp OML 315 and our Jdz. Crude price is low, he can afford to buy oil anywhere in the world including our production partners running out of supply contracts, feedstock isn't a problem.



I am not sure what equity we contributed to earn us the so called forex, I know he was given loads of concessions to facilitate that project, however, if those concessions were monetized, I have no clue, perhaps in the future he may be forced to accept a form of domestic supply obligation.
Like you said, government intend to conserve forex not earn at this point, we may decide to utilize the refinery derivatives to grow other sectors to earn forex.
Its a chain reaction from direct to indirect jobs, servicing contractors, supply chain effect, its gonna be the next boom.

hello everyone ever since Aliko Dangote Africa's richest man announced his plans to build a refinery in lekki i have been keenly following his actions. his recent interview with bloomberg and the pictures posted here on nairaland showing movement of equipment for the refinery to the site have made me happy and excited about the culmination of this ambitious project.

however i have a few questions about the project and how it would impact on the nigerian economy. would highly appreciate the contributions of knowledgeable nairalanders and experts who have inside knowledge of the nigerian oil and gas industry with all it's complexities.

1. When the refinery gets up and running (by God's grace!) how soon will that lead to a complete end to fuel importation a month, two?

2. will the price of fuel products eg petrol, diesel, kerosene etc reduce? if so what realistic price range can nigerians expect.

3. the refinery is located in lekki how then will the refined products be transported? i'm asking this question from a transport point of view because of the usual gridlock that occurs around that lekki area. or will a pipeline be constructed from the lekki axis to the apapa tank farms.

4. also related how will the refinery be able to access it's raw crude considering the threats of sabotage, militancy and volatility of the niger-delta area?

5. apart from earning us foreign exchange and also stopping us wasting scarce dollars on importation of petroleum products what other multiplier benefits will come out from the set up of this refinery?

these are the few questions i have for now. please feel free to contribute your own insights or questions if i missed any out

cc 989900, tonyebarcanista, omenka, sarrki, theGoodjoe, obailala, jpphilips and any other moniker i erroneously omitted your contributions to this topic would be highly appreciated and welcome thanks

TayserMahiri:
Kenya has been participating in Winter Olympics since the 90s.

Has the scam Giant achieved this fete yet

In 2018 the Kenya Ice Hockey Team might make a debut in Pyeongchang, South Korea Winter Olympics.

hmm so attending winter Olympics is now a major achievement dude Nigeria, Kenya and Africa as a whole has too many problems and challenges to conquer for us to focus on silly dick measuring contests

fayose is not the most popular per say but loudest? you betcha. he's usually in the news because he criticises the federal government and he sees himself as the unofficial mouth piece of the opposition pdp party. outside his state no one really reckons with him. even in his state where he's most popular it's not so much because he has achieved any developmental milestones but because he dishes out inducements eg food, drink etc to our poor uneducated folk who don't know better

TayserMahiri:
How do I know so much about him? I know his name because I have seen topics about him in this section. Apparently hes the most popular governor if Im not wrong.
Kenyan forums are political in shape and form. Unless you want to be bogged down with intricacies of kenyan politics.

so it's countdown to the cameroon match. still questions about who man's the super eagles goal post and who plays the top nine position. for the goalkeeper spot hope the coaching crew allow the best emerge from the training drills when the time comes as for who will play the number 9 role it seems based on merit ighalo and the belgian-nigerian who plays for uctrecth in the eredevise forgotten his name are the inform options. osimhen for now should probably take a back seat unless he starts banging in goals right from the beginning of bundesliga. bonaventure should also be called up. he has earned his spot on merit. we need to make sure we call up all our inform players no room for smeeh smeeh.

i actually like kayode's move to spain via man city. it will enable him showcase his technical ability la liga is a league that values good technical play which i think kayode will thrive in and not the jam body of the epl that will take him time to adjust to.

i am confident the leicester city move will bring out the best in iheanacho but he will need to work his socks off and adjust his game to leicester city requirements because like okazaki showed against arsenal he's not ready to relinquish his starting berth.

won't comment much on our potential line up against cameroon until the list of invitees is released but below are the few guys who in my opinion should start. for those with question marks i will let those with form going into the game to determine starting places. unfortunately for now kelechi has lost his undroppable status in my XI but i'm trusting him to put in stellar performances for leicester city in the coming weeks to change my mind

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shehu abdullahi, ekong, balogun, ola aina

ndidi, mikel

victor moses, ? etebo

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forgiveness your boy is making you proud o

Joebie:
Last weekend, Onuoha played at the heart of QPR's defense as they beat visiting Reading 2-0. Reading's Thiago Ilori got red-carded.

Line-up below:

i can't abandon my arsenal o but as long as wenger is still there i don comot my mind for trophy especially league unless by some unexpected miracle we win something i'm patiently waiting till wenger leaves the club

o pari (copyright icon79)

bigblangston:
Though I'm an Arsenal fan but due to the fact that Icon4s told wenger not to sign any players apart from Lacasera, I am turning my attention to Leceister City. I will be happy the three Nigerians get enough playtime together and get deeper understanding of themselves in which will help the Super eagles to cross of the hurdles team blending. With these three players involvement week in week out for Leceister, it will be a great advantage for the super eagles team

truth be told i was surprised when leicester bought the guy. not that i'm downgrading him as musa has his unique qualities but the EPL can be unforgiving particularly if one is a one trick pony

Joebie:
Musa from CSKA to Leicester nko? Make our boys study EPL tape well well before they even consider it.. While some players can adapt, many can't oh. It's not about how good you are, EPL league just has one kind intensity and gra gra. I was always skeptical about the Musa move.

Modified.
Let's not forget Ndidi. He has done excellently well in the EPL.

really happy for kelechi now this is his chance to show his true potential. funny comments about the gardiolanese bible but truth is every coach from youth level to pep have contributed to KC's development as a player.

happy to see joel obi getting his groove back i have no doubt if he can stay injury free he will be recalled sooner rather than later to the super eagles.

not a fan also of our players moving to turkish league unless they moving to galatasry, fenebarche and besiktas. outside those 3 everything else na wash.

omeruo, omeruo! omeruo!! guy if they need to wash your head let them do it oooo because a full international playing u18 is not funny ooo

bros e tire me. akpeyi that was even second choice at the rio olympics what sense does it make that he is the super eagles number 1 when he couldn't even displace an u23 goalkeeper. i find it even funnier that to defend akpeyi some people are bringing out old mistakes and unrelated performances of ikeme to justify akpeyi's poor form

TheGoodJoe:
Thank you very much. The bolded is the point. We are looking for the best Nigerian keeper. Whether he is on the bench in one team or in the local League or regular in Europe is not what we need. We need the best hand in goal. If the keeper is the best, with series of games in the Super Eagles, clubs will come for him or make him a regular in Europe.

It is time we kick out sentiments in our analysis and keep searching for the best in each role.

Joebie:
The problem is players of the U23 category will have issues getting release from their club for ANOTHER AFCON. If you are speaking of the home based ones, it's fair that they must compete with the older players in the domestic league for a shot at SE.

actually I mean only u23 locally based players will play CHAN

apart from being an olympic qualifier an U23 tournament would help better bridge the gap between the U21s and the senior national team. plus it would help in generating a pool of young players for the national team who we have a fair opinion of being ready. we don't have much resources to go round so if i'm forced to choose between one tournament that brings young players through the ranks to one that doesn't necessarily improve the main national team in terms of addition of players then i choose youth everyday of the week

Joebie:
What will an U23 AFCON "in the real sense" help to achieve? Please throw some light on this.

If you didn't read that part of my earlier comment, let me repeat, I think stretching CHAN to accommodate players based in Africa maybe as well as uncapped players especially those in lower leagues will add more value and purpose to it.

hmmm i don't know N80 billion when we have such a huge infrastructure deficit in the country? but anyways as long as govt won't be paying the lion share it would be a cool venture. i'm not a fan of govt using public money for hosting sport competitions should purely be private sector driven. even advanced western nations especially the ones bidding for olympic games find it hard to cough out that kind of money before we mention most african countries (including us) who haven't gotten the basics of health care, education and physical infrastructure right.

PDPGuy:
I'm okay with June/July if CAF, multinational companies that operate in the host nation(s) and the host nation(s) pony up the cash for the retrofit of the stadia.
Retrofitting 6-8 stadiums with retractable roofs would cost no less than N80 billion. That's s lot of money, but it will create 1000s of temporary jobs.