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Chief you for mention me direct no be beefing issue

Jokes apart I'm happy you put up Fashola's quote which corroborates what I've insisted all along that the bridge itself is completed but the access roads still need to be finished.

Where me and izzou differ is that he insists because some of the access roads are not ready then the bridge itself hasn't been completed. At least cars are now passing the 'uncompleted' bridge which is enough for me.

BlueRayDick:
This one u no even bother drag that Ur friend about the completion of the bridge and it's access roads based On Fashola's own words below ; e be like say Ur tired is tired already

To answer the bold directly I would say it's a combination of football age phenomenon, poor foundation/training at the beginning of their careers and lack of ambition.

As an experienced football watcher you know that in most cases though with a few exceptions players usually improve and get better as they age so it's plausible that a lot of our footballers when they were playing well were probably at their peak age so down turn in form is most probably diminishing returns.

A lot of our footballers also didn't get proper football education to maximize their innate talent. Look at Ahmed Musa for instance blessed with terrifying pace and finishing ability but with abysmal technique in other areas of his game which I put down to poor foundation. Osimhen had a little of that same issue but he's has improved tremendously and is currently on the right trajectory.

Lack of Ambition is self explanatory. Someone like Jayjay for instance could have been one of the greatest African players ever if he had the mind set and focus of someone like E'too for example however Okocha was mostly content to be an entertainer for most of his career. By the time he got serious age wasn't on his side.

komekn:
There was little or no difference if anything Mikel Obi looked better.

However at age 30 Mikel was no longer able to perform at a high level. They are age mates and Messi still has a few years left at the highest level.

Coming to think of it I'm trying to think of any of our players above 30 that can still perform at the highest level only player who comes to mind is Ighalo.

Etebo is 27 not even 30 yet and he doesn't seem to be in the prime of his football but is rather diminishing.

I really cannot explain this loss of quality form so early in a number of our players.

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Some #EndSars activists are still in jail as we speak while pips like Rinu, Femco and the rest don cash out. Yes criticize and hold government to account but always do so with sense not allow 'activists' like Aisha Yesufu and co rile you up then leave you hanging when things go awry.

That's why I will always have respect for Gani Fawehinmi God bless his soul. Used his resources to bail people out apart from being a victim himself.

raumdeuter:
Nope. Only if its you and your young friends. If you tell your uncle or dad say you insult Gbajabiamila on Social Media and Gbaja wan treat your fuckup, Your uncle/dad will first scold you at home and now go to Gbaja to beg him as a Yorubaman. Even if Gbaja is younger he wont mind prostrating for him and slap you in Gbajas presence. Cos he knows Gbaja can off person or turn your life upside down in one minute and nothing will happen to him (Same thing you will do if your 16yr old brother reports the same to you)

Your life is more important to your family than some clout online.
There will be some guys in a Nigerian jail for over 5 to 10yrs for insulting a big man and that one just forgot him in jail after the initial shout online people will forget you and face BBNaija.

Agba Jalingo a fairly popular journalist spent time in jail for what? You know when they arrested Sowore there were some other guys arrested with him including a 21yr old Olawale Bakare. How many people dey talk of am after the initial shouts

Those in jail are actually fortunate, some people don die for criticizing powers that be.
NBA chairman Barnabas Igwe and his wife got killed by Mbadinuju for this and till date no one has been held responsible. Mbadinuju is still alive

Now imagine a mere teenager son of nobody?

Chai things dey happen sha pesin go ghost finish but the hailings no match on-field performance.

andrewbaba44:
Modric ballon d or is surely a fraud

Person wey mandzukic play ball pass for croatia Dey win ballon d or ,Ronaldo still play pass am for Madrid

What gives me joy is that Deschamp comot Griezmann for sunday match if not you for find way attach am to Mbappe glory the same way you're pursuing 2018 award agenda.

andrewbaba44:
His stats for club and country is there ,yet you think he doesn’t deserve or ,or French best player

Modric own na fraud normally ,people don finally see the light ,they gave him bronze ball ,someone that isn’t even croatia best player

Same reason Modric won balon d'Or that year despite owngoal having more goals than the Croatian in the UCL that year.

Populist voting by people wey no sabi ball.

andrewbaba44:
What stopped mbappe from outscoring ?

Why did he come 3rd at the ballon d or?

Polling booth awards you mean.

andrewbaba44:
Agenda and nothing much

Griezman was the best player at the 2018 world cups and not mbappe

Thank you

If you're looking at overall achievement eg WC, UCL, Copa and Olympics painful as it is you have to give it to Messi but no doubt eibarman worked with a lot of great talents unlike Maradona who had to extract water out of stone with most of the average talent he worked with.

forgiveness:


Messi na 3rd behind Maradona.

cc andrewbaba44

Ibime:
Agendas checklist -

You can see how penalties change narrative - Mbappe went from also-ran to debatable contender for golden ball thanks to two penalties after Griezmann left the pitch

Griezmann 2018 performance was nothing without two penalties, which were won by Mbappe

Mbappe was actually the star of 2018 WC, not Griezmann

Messi made Fraudiola, confirmed

Martinez gave Messi life in Copa and WC. No other GOAT depended repeatedly on penalty shootout goalkeeper

Giroud is useless unless his team is dominant, confirmed

Hakimi vs James argument back in play

Trying to remember when last a goalkeeper came clutch for his national team at the world cup the way Martinez did for Argentina. Funny enough I think it was another Argentinian keeper Goycochea who performed heroics for them to reach the finals of the 1990 world cup. Nigeria has learned the lesson the hard way the importance of a good goalkeeper.

mank1234:
By one man(Higuan), Messi failed in 2014.
By one man(Martinez), Messi succeeded in 2022.

Argentina won this World Cup not because of Messi but Martinez.

Congrats to Messi undoubtedly one of the Greatest in the beautiful game. Big up to Mbappe Epic performance but one man can't do it all accolades.

Thanks Qatar for giving us a world cup that will go down in living memory as one of the best ever.

Best final of all time from one of the best world cup tournaments ever

Mujtahida:
Na final be this

You sabi ball

TheSuperNerd:
I think you left there just in time. Messi scored but your final prayer point ensured another Mbappe Masterclass.

This guy is 23. Will be 24 in 2 days and he already has 12 World Cup Goals!!! 12!!!!

The record is 16 goals by Klose from 4 WC tournaments.

Mbappe has 12 in 2 WC tournaments at 23 and you tell me he is not in the GOAT club convo Naaah... let us be honest. He is!!!

Messi and Mbappe are worthy winners. Which ever country wins couldn't have done it without these 2 incredible gentlemen.

GGOOOOAAAAATTTTT HATTTTRRRRRRICCCCCCKKKKK

was about to before the yeye hegoat scored.

TheSuperNerd:
This Ronaldo Fanboy sef! Proud of Ronaldo’s Son, Mbappe, you must be.

Pretty sure you are just coming out of your prayer house.

Your head dey there.

fabyom:
Give us this day oh Lord! Team France! The way I shouted you would think it was Nigeria that scored!!

MBBBBBAAAAAAAPPPPPPEEEEEEEE! GOAT! CANCEL YOUR BLOODY DRAFTS! C'MON LES BLUESSSSS!

Most wins as well 6 each (for now)

charlesemeka85:
Nigeria & Morocco are the two African nations with the most clean sheets in FIFA World Cup history (7) �� ��

I have nothing against Griezmann I was just countering the other poster's argument using Barcelona to hype him up.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never said Mbappe single handedly won the world cup that obviously sounds ridiculous. Even greats like Pele and Maradona can't be said to have won world cups single handedly for their respective teams, however that said it their impacts were so significant you could argue that it would have been almost impossible for their countries to have won without their presence. This is the point I've been trying to make for Kylian.

mostob:
You're the one hyping here. We all agreed Mbappe has contributed a lot to the French team but you want to force your 'Mbappe singlehandedly won the world cup for france' agenda down our throat.

From your first paragraph, I can deduct you have something ulterior against Griezman. If not, what has his club form had to do with his performance in the national team?

I'm sure if Pogba and Kante were in this year's world cup you would have used them to downplay Mbappe's performances.

Players contribute to a team's success but some individual player's contributions are more impactful than others that has been the crux of my argument.

mostob:
You fall my hand because I was not expecting something like this from you.
How can you forget the defensive solidity of that team? Pogba was holding that Midfield for France, What of the insane workrate of Kante? Griezman was conducting the Midfield, Playmaking and striking at the same time and you're here saying Mbappe won the World cup for France. chai... I'm out.

If Griezmann was so good why did they let him go at a loss?

I've never said Griezmann is not a good player but hyping his contributions ahead of Mbappe is an agenda that will not fly.

AndSunGorilla:
Exactly if Griezmann was that bad, why did Barcelona spend so much money to buy him from Athletico, for a long time he was the poster boy of Athletico Madrid's success. Now that he returned, Simeone and Athletico were intentionally giving him less minutes to reduce the money they would pay to Barcelona. I support you sir. Griezmann has always been class whether with the french team or anywhere, his only disappointing period was in Barcelona.

Abi o the way Maradona pass ball give himself score all the goals or the way Pele used to keep clean sheets for Brazil back then abi

AndSunGorilla:
U no see how Mbappe dey dive for goal post making save after save. He play corner, he go head am inside like one of our players dey do. Didn't you watch that world cup?

Fall hand how? Football we all know is a team sport but some individuals were so essential to their teams winning that it is almost universally agreed that if those players weren't their it's most likely their team won't have won.

Now will all fairness look at Mbappe's performance at the last world cup and in this one are you saying France would have gone all the way without him considering how the French national team had performed in recent world cups before he came on the scene?

mostob:
Bro..you fall my hand sha. But it's okay

Mbappe has already delivered winning the highest international trophy on earth the world cup. Griezmann played Euro and World Cup he won nothing. The entry of Kylian has changed the trajectory of the French national team they are now back to back finalists with Mbappe being the starboy.

Mujtahida:
Let me use your own logic against you but in relation to the Euros. Mbappe was in the Euros 2021, if he was so great why didn't he help France win it? Not my logic but yours.

Yes the same way Pele and Maradona single handedly carried Brazil and Argentina to win the world cup during their time abi?

mostob:
So going by your logic, Mbappe singlehandedly won the 2018 WC and singlehandedly carry them to this year's final. Great...just great

Agenda? na you dey talk sey pesin wey no win shingbain for France is more impactful than someone whose arrival has led to his country playing back to back world cup finals with receipt of performances to boot.

andrewbaba44:
I can easily say mbappe won nothing without griezman also ,but I ain’t here for agenda like you

You can drag benzema with national team ,but you see griezman ? No near there

What can be bigger than the final of the 2016 Euros in front of your home fans against a Ronaldo less Portugal but baba still choke

COOL10:
Lol.

Like I said earlier, na media hype dey cause all these things.

You say Kante and Pogba can easily do Griezmann's job but can you please lay out their stats here? They've not even done half of what Griezmann has done. How many assists have they had? How many big chances have they created? How many goals have they scored?

Griezmann has the highest number of assists in the history of French National Team football (28 assists). He's higher than both Thierry Henry and Zidane.

Griezmann is the 3rd highest goal scorer for France (42 goals) only behind Giroud and Henry.

This is the guy you say is not a proven big game player?

Let's not forget that club football performance is different from national football performance.

Once Griezmann puts on blue, he turns into a beast. Griezmann is a different animal entirely when playing for France. Don't get it twisted.

Remove Griezmann from France and watch it fall.

Griezzmann without Mbappe no win jack but he's the best. I'm sure if Pogba and Kante were in this squad you would have said Kylian is benefiting from their hard work.

andrewbaba44:
I can easily ask you where is mbappe international trophy without griezman ,so no go that kind beer parlour arguement

Griezman winning his first international trophy with mbappe doesn’t mean mbappe carried him there

For the last time ,why was griezman the French best player at the 2018 World Cup ? Stop running away from this question

Chief you're the one who is capping unnecessarily.

Ok Griezzman is the best show us international trophy pre-Mbappe you begin dey shalaye.

And I'm not just judging based on goals for instance we all know Henry outscored Zidane at international tournaments but nobody will say Zidane wasn't at the heart of their success because the record of France with Henry without Zidane in international tournaments is apalling.

andrewbaba44:
The giroud talk was surely a joke

So because griezman was at the 2014 cup and they didn’t win it means mbappe was the one carrying the team ,please make this make sense oga ,can you even listen to yourself ?

Wetin consign person performance for 2014 World Cup and Wetin e play for 2018 World Cup ?

Why was griezman the French best player at 2018 ahead of mbappe ,please explain that

Me sef weak same Griezzmann that didn't win spoon for France before the arrival of Mbappe is now indispensable?

typicalgamer:
Why are you capping na

Remove griezeman France still wins 2018 World Cup

Remove mbappe and 2018 World Cup is non existent

I see you cleverly ignored the fact that Antoine was in the 2014 World Cup if he was so great why didn't he at least help France reach the semis?

So if you knew Giroud was trash in 2014 and 2018 why do you insist on using him to counter Kylian's potential GOAT status?

So far the common denominator for France's success at recent world cups is Mbappe. The year Giroud and Griezzman featured for Les Blues together we know what happened.

andrewbaba44:
Why going to the 2014 World Cup they didn’t win ?

The giroud was even a joke

But griezman was French best player at the 2018 World Cup and not mbappe .why did you ignore that and speak of mbappe only ?

Griezman didn’t came 3rd at the ballon d or behind modric and Ronaldo for just being an excort ,if na even goals self mbappe no score pass am for 2018

At least pele dey carry team ,do you wanna say mbappe carried France to the 2018 World Cup ?