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Ibime:
These Govs need to stop speaking out both sides of their mouth.

You can't support GEJ and still be asking for Presidency in 2015

I'm hoping it's just a metaphor for "Don't help rig the northerners in for 2015,do it for us if you do decide to step down". The reason why i say this is because the north has been saying the same thing as them and it would be stupid for them to keep quiet and fade off into the scheme of things and allow northern influence on GEJ;however, i believe they are not going about it in so much of a good way. It is better they don't give him 'condition', as to suggest he is some sort of child or something.

T9ksy:
Posted by: chyz Today at 12:41:23 AM

Thanks for the above quote. Sometimes it seems my igbo brothers are selectively amnesic!  In the 2nd republic, Ekweme was shagari's VP. The deal then was that Ekweme would succeed Shagari. This was the "carrot" they dangled in their face. However, half-way thru their 2nd term, Buhari and his goons carried out a palace coup thereby truncating the chance of Ekweme and the igbos producing their first presido. Buhari himself admitted to that much! Whilst Shagari (the deposed president) was placed on "house arrest", Ekweme, his VP was locked up in a maximum security jail!

Now the igbos are poised again to fall for the same duplicity.

At any rate, if the north do actually honour this arrangement, am sure it will be an igbo stooge of the northern caliphate that will be moved into Aso rock. Just like they did to the yorubas, with ObJoke. .

I don't know why they don't get that.The funny also is that it happened to Ekwueme twice.lol

godfadda6:
Despite the fact the we cannot forget what Dora did in her time with NAFDAC, she just derailled inhe apporach to the re-brand Nigeria project, this was the woman defending late Yardua.

Though this is personal, but all her female childrem married whitemen and got dual citizenship and we are rebranding?? This is a woman her own brother-in-law fought over the burial of a relative, lets get serious, no bi say u don help us, u con dey kills us jare.

Madam Dora you have done well, go back to NAFDAC and be relavant, leave politics for the politicians, governance for the government and the governed, and legislator for those who know how to make noise and eat tax payers money.

Else that reputation is going to be rubbished, ask Daisy Danjuman

You're playing right?

Missy85:
I support her right to contest for a Nass seat.

But any suggestion that she has been a competent Minister must be a joke.

That said, she might be more useful as a senator.

Do you know what the duties of Minister of Information and Communications are?

Kobojunkie:
Here's the thing. When we come back to this topic in a couple of months, these same people will continue to argue BLINDLY and many more will PRETEND they have always known of the problem from the start. I mean I have seen it happen so many times over, that I know now it is a waste of time to indulge some of these tantrum throwing brats. ROFLMAO!

Binch just shut up please. Stop you nonsense about aunty dora.

ChinenyeN:
I get what you're saying Asha, and for me, all that you mentioned is exactly why I am not at all concerned with Egobiambu's post. The points you made in your post have all been established times over by other Igbo (both SE & Delta), and that is also why I posted the below comment.

So, with all you talked about having already been discussed and established times over, I saw no reason to be as concerned with Egobiambu's post as Andre or Chyz were, and I could not, for the life of me, understand why/how Andre or Chyz (although, Chyz explained his own, so that's okay), but Andre in particular would continue on like this. But now that Andre has explicitly explained himself (the oath he swore), I guess it all makes sense, in some strange, excessive way.

Long story short, I in particular do not see anything in Egobiambu's post that is actually cause for concern. Had he insulted SE Igbo though, just as Agbotaen had done, then I would understand what Oturugo meant by "turning a blind eye" and I would understand why Andre would desire me to also be 'up in arms' with him.

What you deemded fit to talk about is of no business to me. This is a forum and discussion are to go on.If everyone was to stop commenting on threads because YOU, chinenye, finds it of no use then it would simply die. I discuss issues that have to do with the topic;however, you, come on here to give rebuttals that have little or nothing to do with the topic.You find it fit to argue about accusations. In no way did I go on the offence(negatively),like you make it seem, towards Egobiambu's comment. In fact I appreciate his contribution as someone new to this forum and a fellow Anioma brother. He's fine with me.I would be best if you desist to make it look like some of us,here, are attacking him in some wort of way. Just thought I'd let you know.

McKren:
Unfortunately if there is any thing we have learnt from the last 11 months of Jonathan it is that he will be a monumental failure of a leader. He is catastrophe waiting to happen and I certainly will not be part of that failure.

Trust me the likes of Ekwueme and Ken Nnamani are not kids in politics.

Now remember how I told you about them decamping en-masse when "time" for an "Igbo" president?I guess you thought I was naive about nigeria politics when I explain scenarios earlier. Read this:


[size=15pt]28 govs threaten to quit PDP, over MPs’ NEC membership bill[/size]


Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:48 Habeeb I. Pindiga & Suleiman M. Bisalla

Governors of the Peoples Democratic Party yesterday met with President Goodluck Jonathan where they threatened to defect from the ruling party unless he worked with them to scuttle a bill seeking to make federal lawmakers members of national executive committees of political parties.


The meeting, held at the Presidential Villa in Abuja, was a follow up to an earlier one by the PDP Governors Forum on Sunday night, where they resolved to stop the National Assembly bill, which has already been passed by the House of Representatives. They had set up a six-man team, headed by their chairman, Governor Bukola Saraki of Kwara State, to register their protest with the president.



Daily Trust learnt that soon after the governors’ meeting ended early morning yesterday, the delegation proceeded to the villa to see the president, who, however, asked that the meeting be held at 4pm with all the 28 PDP governors and national chairman Okwesilieze Nwodo in attendance.

By 4pm, the meeting kicked off, and inside sources told Daily Trust that some of the governors accused Jonathan and the party’s leadership of instigating the lawmakers to pass that bill with the aim of eroding the governors’ influence in the party.

Nwodo, however, denied the accusations, insisting that both the party and the president were opposed to the bill.

According to our sources, at this point the governors said they were satisfied with the explanation by the president and Nwodo, but they asked both of them to impress it on the National Assembly to drop the bill.

The governors told the president to withhold assent if the bill is eventually presented to him or else they would defect en masse to another party. They said they had already started discussions with an unmanned opposition party for all the 28 of them to move together as a block out of the PDP.

Also yesterday in Abuja, the Northern Governors’ Forum rose from a meeting vowing to use any means necessary to frustrate the lawmakers’ bid.

Niger State Governor Mu’azu Babangida Aliyu, who is chairman of the forum, said the governors would use all means at their disposal to stop the National Assembly members from ramping themselves into the excos of their various political parties through the controversial bill.

Speaking to journalists after a meeting of the forum in Abuja yesterday, Aliyu said stopping the lawmakers was necessary and that if the governors cannot achieve it in the end, “there are many ways of killing a bird.”

The controversial bill, which seeks to amend the Electoral Act 2010, is being sponsored by some senators and members of the House of Representatives, and the Senate is likely to pass it today.

Apart from making the lawmakers members of the parties’ excos, the bill also seeks to hand over to the legislators all the processes of National Assembly primaries within the parties. The bill elicited widespread condemnation from political parties and other interest groups across the country, but the lawmakers have so far moved on unperturbed.

The Northern Governors Forum yesterday also denied reports that it chose to meet in Abuja, instead of its traditional headquarters Kaduna, because of security concerns. It said in a communiqué that the meeting was held in Abuja out of convenience only.

It added that this was in line with the forum’s decision to “rotate the meeting among member states in alphabetical order, starting from Adamawa State, while Kaduna remains the headquarters and the secretariat as coordinating centre.”

The forum also agreed that in view of the prevailing circumstances in the country, it would increase the frequency of its meetings in order to “rejuvenate economic prosperity to foster the desired political development, peace, unity and progress of the north and the country in general.”


http://www.dailytrust.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8303:28-govs-threaten-to-quit-pdpover-mps-nec-membership-bill&catid=2:lead-stories&Itemid=8

MetalGong4:
^^^^^^^^
You are wasting your time with that NigerDelta boy named Chyz . . . . . He doesnt get it all.

@OP
2015 Igbo presidency is not negotiable . . . Atiku/Soludo or Atiku/Nnamani already have the votes of the Ndigbo.

Has nothing to do with Niger Delta but everything to do with the Igbo.I will never accept second fiddle for the Igbo because of some greedy Igbo politicians like Soludo and Nnamani want to reach their dream of being an Igbo president. If they do want to reach it then this definitely ain't the way.

oturugo:
You make me wonder if it was an aboki man impregnanted your mother.

, and so what?, dirty hawk.

LoL

Ileke-IdI:
^^^ You're a loser.

But I loff that song tho. Rock is the ish

Hey at least i'm honest

Hell No! Tufia!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wiYdUe36_Q[/flash]

@Topic, the north reveals that they now have oil but by that time oil will have become useless.

Kobojunkie:
[size=13pt]ROFLMAO!![/size]

Is this early april fool or what? lol

^^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it1v00jLPj4

Spot on bro Andre don't mind the hates and sell outs.

McKren:
Chyz

What some of you need to realise is that if Ndigbo ever get to produce the President anyday, another ethnic group will have to produce the VP at that time. At the rate you guys keep demonising the idea of VP position; trust me there will be nobody ready to play second fiddle for you. And you know what happens at a time like that? You will be isolated like the arrogant fool you are.

We are a country of 300 ethnic groups. Some are not even mentioned in the scheme of things. Jason is a Yoruba man who has already benefitted from zoning and will rather destroy it so that he can eat his cake and have it and you are accepting his bait.

There is nothing wrong if Ndigbo play as you put it second fiddle on this occassion. When OBJ was President, the North played second fiddle, when Yar'adua was President the South South played second fiddle. So there is nothin wrong if we play second fiddle in 2011.
It is the arrogance of people like you that has meant Ndigbo are simply outsiders in Nigerian politics.

I have no interest taking political lectures from Jason because I recognise that no ethnic group alone can elect any President in Nigeria. So people need to form coalitions and reach concensus with others. Jason is simply not happy that two major ethnic groups Hausas and Igbos can ever reach a concensus.

They used to abuse us for being unable to agree with others, now we are doing our best to aggree with others they want to turn arround and tell us we are playing second fiddle. It seems to me this group of people will criticise everything Ndigbo do.

I will certainly not take political lectures from my adversaries, I don't know about you.

Bro you got to understand, it is not about yoruba. Its about your own people.The yoruba are going to do what they do regardless. The yoruba did not benefit from zoning.They didn't even vote OBJ. He was installed by his military buddies IBB,and the rest of his Elites military and non-military northern brothers. Your main focus should lie on the development of Igbo land not an "Igbo president". What we are trying to do here is correct the wrong thats being done against us federally. If jonathan delivers what we need, then why should he step down? Even if he doesn't step down who are we to say that he can run passed 2015? As long as he does it fair and right then so be it,let the competition begin. Second fiddle brought us nothing in the past and will bring us nothing now.Why cant you reason with thorough logic? If jonathan fail to live up to egualizing the Igbo in to the federal world which includes infrastructure et-all then the Igbos must FIGHT away the presidency from him.This should be done by voting,population, litigation, and diplomacy.

Don't take 'political lectures' from your adversaries but take it from me as a fellow Igbo and a brother, they will use and dump us! VP's are not voted on yet Yaradua could not choose Odili as VP, why? Please don't throw away your vote on a promise by a worldly evil being.

McKren:
You people need to stop being arrogant for nothing and learn to play politics in Nigeria.

What Ekwueme is doing for Ndigbo is the best, I hope you guys don't realise this too late!!!!

Playing second fiddle because of a promised from a northerner in an unstabled political party is not playing GOOD politics. PDP will soon be dead in the SW.Look at how many PDP members decamped to the ACN because of the new governors. They left in droves, check the articles.There is no way akala is going to win oyo state the same may apply to ogun, this if if the election isn't rigged. That weakens the name of the "ruling" party of nigeria. The APGA is putting forward great candidates in the SE, at least in Ebonyi and Imo.They are more than likely to win is again, PDP doesn't rig the elections. Also, with the riff-raff thats going on in Enugu PDP, chime is likely to leave if it goes against his way. Then after that happens PDP will no longer be the "ruling" party of nigeria. Now where does that leave your Igbo VP? Have you not seen the articles in which IBB planned to leave the PDP with other northerners if zoning is not honored? What makes you thing that before 2015, time for an "Igbo president" that they wont leave en-masse and not just the northerners? Please think my brother.

alj harem:
this is good development now u southerners can not steal money anyhow

anyway people better start getting use to it

and if they still money then what will happen?

jason12345:
so you prefer the vp slot . how do you people think? can't you go for the presidency? gj was the vp mainly because of mend and the fact that he was from a "minority" group! YOU are from a majority group for GOODNESS SAKE!!! why bend for anyone why are you satisfied with vp position? do you think if we have an igbo vp that would guarantee ndigbo presidency after atiku? . do you not think the political terrain would have changed by then? MAKE YOURSELVES POLITICALLY RELEVANT!!! MO!

Don't mind that southern subordinate to the north.I guess it still hasn't dawned on them even though Ekwueme himself tried it twice and got the same result.Even though he's trying it again indirectly, i guess 3 is a charm . MC kren, i suggest you stick to turn-tables.

Like I said before, the CBN is given too much independence and that independence needs to be regulated immediately.

mikeansy:
I wish these Governors will be respectful enough to tell us that they found Jonathan to be the best candidate Nigeria can ever produce and go ahead to justify their argument with Jonathan's records or his policies.

But this talk of power rotating from SS to SE insults my intelligence because it is not possible under any zoning arrangement in this country.

The only way power goes to SE from SS in 2015 is if an Obama emerges in SE in 2015 and takes the country by storm through his convincing charisma not through any kind of zoning.

@ the bolded, Thank you.

Is it me or does it seem like sanusi is trying to make up excuses or a case for why sharia courts are going to need to be established across the country, and also, why the workers within the industry have to made to learn islamic law in order to "get this banking thingy goin"? Sounds like islamization of nigeria through the backdoor.

[size=18pt]CBN Identfies Hindrances To Islamic Bank’s Take-Off[/size]

Monday, 13 December 2010 06:11 David Agba, Abuja




The Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), has identified the dearth of knowledge, skills and technical capacity to regulate, supervise and operate Islamic bank (the non interest banking model), as major hindrances to the successful take off of the model.

The non interest banking model is a banking regime that offers services, products and financial instruments based on compliance to Islamic laws.

Special Adviser to the CBN Governor, Dr. Bashir Umar, made this known at a workshop organized by the Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation (NDIC), at the weekend where he also noted that higher quality personnel who had experience in project management and Islamic jurisprudence would also be required for the smooth implementation of the banking regime.

In his paper titled, "Islamic finance in Nigeria: Issues and Challenges", Umar also said lack of adequate legal, regulatory and supervisory framework, which had restrained potential foreign investors, absence of accountants and auditors knowledgeable in accounting and auditing standards pertinent to non interest banking as well as dearth of Islamic scholars knowledgeable in conventional financial markets are other challenges facing the model.

According to him, "The key challenges facing the model include the dearth of knowledge, skills and technical capacity to regulate, supervise, or operate non interest banks. Higher quality personnel with experience in project management and Islamic jurisprudence are required for financing and marketing activities.

"Lack of adequate legal, regulatory, and supervisory framework, which is restraining potential foreign investors, and the absence of accountants and auditors knowledgeable in accounting and auditing standards pertinent to non interest banks."

"It is evident that from the resilient nature of Islamic finance that enormous opportunities abound and positive and far-reaching impact is highly expected, for the Nigerian economy.”

"However, the challenges of operating this system are not to be overlooked. The positive indicators are that regulators are bracing up to address."

To facilitate the smooth take off of the model, Umar called for "an extensive capacity building through collaboration among various stakeholders to develop cognate expertise in non-interest banking, development of an adequate regulatory and supervisory framework for the effective operation of non-interest banking in Nigeria."

He said that considering the tremendous importance of the regime to infrastructure financing, there is an urgent need for these bottlenecks to be removed.


http://www.leadershipeditors.com/ns/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21143:-david-agba-abuja&catid=16:headline-news&Itemid=102

[size=18pt]S’ East govs, others dismiss Ekwueme’s search for Atiku’s running mate[/size]

Monday, 13 December 2010 00:00 From Lawrence Njoku, Enugu News - National

Supporters extol ex-VP’s virtues


https://www.guardiannewsngr.com/images/resized/images/stories/2010/sep2010/peter-obi_appts_09-09-10_200_160.jpg

SOUTH-EAST political leaders rose from a meeting in Enugu yesterday and unanimously endorsed the presidential aspiration of Dr. Goodluck Jonathan in 2011. But they dismissed as “irrelevant” the search by former Vice President, Dr. Alex Ekwueme, for a vice presidential candidate for Atiku Abubakar.

The support for Jonathan, however, came with a caveat as the leaders insisted that he (Jonathan) must support the aspiration of the Igbo to produce a president for the country in 2015 in line with the zoning arrangement that recognised the country as a federating entity.

Although the political leaders approved the action of the governors which had earlier endorsed the aspiration of Jonathan, they, however, said they should have consulted the leaders before taking the decision to avoid the discordant voices that had greeted their decision.

At the meeting chaired by Governor Martin Elechi of Ebonyi State were Governors Peter Obi (Anambra) and Theodore Orji (Abia). Deputy Governors Sunday Onyebuchi (Enugu) and Ada Okwuonu (Imo) represented their governors.

Former President-General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Dozie Ikedife, Onyema Ugochukwu and Tim Menakaya were also there.

Also at the meeting were members of the National Assembly from the zone, Chairmen and secretaries of Ohanaeze Ndigbo from the five states, chairmen of traditional rulers’ council in the zone, market association leaders in the zone and youth and women organisations.

But Ekwueme, former Senate President Ken Nnamani, Ben Obi, among others in the campaign train of Atiku Abubakar, were absent from the meeting.

Speaking on the absence of these leaders said to be engrossed in the search for a running mate for Atiku, Elechi said: “This is democracy and they have their right to belong to any camp they want to. But let me assure you that they are not a threat and Ndigbo is not interested in producing a vice president this time around. We don’t want to discuss or stop them because what they are doing is not for the overall interest of Ndigbo and they know it. But we are happy that our people despite their political and religious leaning are today speaking with one voice for the overall interest of the people of the South-East.”

Reading a four-point statement reached at the over five hours meeting, Governor Elechi stated that the decision to endorse Jonathan and work for his victory at the primaries of the PDP till he wins the Presidency was of the concern he has exhibited in the affairs concerning the zone.

The statement reads: “That President Jonathan has demonstrated sensitivity and commitment to redressing the plight and deprivation of the South-East zone as evident in the commencement of execution of the 2nd Niger Bridge project, dealing with erosion and other ecological problems in the zone, upgrading of the Akanu Ibiam Airport to international status with the runway expansion already completed, among others.

“To endorse the presidential bid of Dr. Jonathan for the 2011 elections and urge all peoples of the zone to support the Goodluck-Sambo presidential ticket by voting en-masse during the forthcoming presidential election.

“Accordingly, to urge all delegates of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) from all zones to vote en-bloc for President Jonathan-Sambo ticket at the presidential primaries.

“That all Igbo in Nigeria and in the Diaspora should take up the Jonathan/Sambo presidential bid as a project deserving collective support irrespective of political affiliations.”

They added: “The Igbo should be supported to produce the president of the country in 2015.”

But Atiku has been described as the Nelson Mandela of the struggle to entrench democracy in Nigeria.
A Jigawa group, the Atiku Forum 2011, made the declaration in Abuja at the weekend while endorsing his candidacy for next year’s presidential polls.

Leader of the Forum, Malam Abdullahi Abdulhamid (Mutawallin Hadejia), said that the contributions of the Turaki to democratic struggle are unassailable.

According to him, Atiku’s feat in the nation’s democratic struggles stands him out in the same “way Jomo Kenyata of Kenya liberated Kenyans from the wicked arms of the colonialist and the way Mandela freed South Africa from apartheid domination.

“That is how you liberated Nigerians from the dark clouds of the Obasanjo’s third term agenda, thereby ensuring the continuity of democratic rule in Nigeria.”

Abdulhamid paid tributes to former President Ibrahim Babangida, Lt.-Gen. Aliyu Gusau and Governor Bukola Saraki of Kwara State for their “patriotism” in accepting the choice of Atiku as the consensus aspirant of the “North.”

Responding, Director-General of the amalgamated Atiku Abubakar Campaign Organisation, Senator Ben Obi, assured the group that its members would be adequately represented in the Jigawa State chapter.

Speaking at the town hall meeting, Chief Whip of the House of Representatives, Emeka Ihedioha, said there was no better candidate to fly the flag of the party than Jonathan, stressing that the zone should now go and sleep as they had achieved what other zones could not achieve.

He said: “We understand need and necessity to pitch our tent in one camp. What is critical is not just to support. What we demand is to be taken seriously. We are not part of government now. There is an effort to get us to play a pivotal role. In 2011, we will not stay behind. How do we realize 2015? We stand from 2011.
We are today the most beautiful bride in Nigerian politics. Yorubas have taken their share. The North has taken and is still taking. The South-south has taken. In 2015 it should be our turn. If we don’t make our case serious, we will be taken for granted. It is better at the primaries; we hold them by the balls. Jonathan and Sambo must tell us, this is where we stand on 2015.”

Senator Anthony Agbo from Ebonyi State said that the zone would now meet with the president to extract a commitment from him on the 2015 project.


http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32202:s-east-govs-others-dismiss-ekwuemes-search-for-atikus-running-mate&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

alj harem:
gbamm

that my man ChinenyeN

my respect

Your 'respect' is worth 3 strips of dried cassava peel.

^^^ Now I could be wrong but I saw that same picture being used in a newspaper that was assiociated with Aso Rock. Where is the source? Also,what has Mugabe have to do with nigeria?

DapoBear:
What is your basis for saying this? The falsified population figures, which we all know are incorrect? If so, I won't disagree what that. But then the issue seems to be getting correct population figures, not "unfair revenue allocation." Under the officially accepted numbers, the revenue is fair, is it not?

The irony

You still have not documented any SE states by the sea applying to open up a seaport and being denied. When did this happen? Under which administration? Which state? What was the proposed site?

Dapo, you are funny with the "document" thing. try any search engine be it google or yahoo,even msn.your choice.you cannot tell me you can find it.Pretty lame. Let's see you show the documents saying why they(FG) have not build the sea ports or done see it deemed fit.All of the detail will be really appreciated.

Even earlier in this thread, people were complaining about the federal government somehow suppressing your existing (riverside) ports. I think I've demonstrated pretty clearly why this is not the case (though if someone can show goods are taxed higher in the East than in the West, I'll agree that that is discrimination.)

But let us assume for the sake of argument that you are correct, that the Nigerian government discriminates against the SE and favors the Yoruba and the SW. If so, then you have nothing to lose by removing your support of the PDP or any centralist governments. After all, it appears that your support has bought you nothing, right? While our staunch opposition to Abuja and the federal government somehow has led to us being favored! 

Im still trying to figure out where i said the Yoruba were being favored.

I guess the Sufis got to him.