₦airaland Forum

excanny:
Bros, So you really think that only GEJ has the God-given special powers to do this.


What's the guaranty that all these are not for getting votes, and that they'll continue after he gets into power. See, there are deeper issues. Why are the northerners dying to always have power? Why are the likes of Clark solidly behind Jonathan, to the point of breaking all rules, if producing a President wasn't that important? Bayelsa is to have a federal university and a refinery courtesy of a six-months' taking charge at Aso villa. What has Jonathan done for the SE? Enugu airport? Were there not plans already for that? Dont let us sell our birthright for a meal of porridge.

Go and read properly why IBB is threatening to leave PDP if Jonathan wins. It's because of the likes of Jonathan who never respect laid down agreements. He wrote to Nwodo requesting him to implement the principle of zoning as agreed upon in the party.

Ekwueme will go down in history as the most important sage the Ndigbo nation has produced after Zik of Africa. When such a man calls me to advice me, i'll leave everything i'm doing to listen to him. The sagacity of this elder statesman is unparalleled and not found among commonplace men. If we allow folks like GJ who never respect agreements to bastardize the rotation principle that Ekwueme and other Igbo intelligentsia worked out under the late Abacha, we have given room to the conspiracy against us never to produce a President again in Nigeria.

So what exactly are you suggesting?

[size=18pt]Okonjo-Iweala, Maduekwe, others blast Abia gov[/size]
•Set economic agenda for the state

From CHUKS ONUOHA, Umuahia, with additional report

Wednesday, December 08, 2010




World Bank Managing Director and former Minister of Finance, Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, has bemoaned the growing debt profile of Abia State under Governor Theodore Orji, wondering why the state was back in debt after previous state and Federal Governments literally liquidated its debts.
Okonjo-Iweala who led a team of financial and development experts to set a new economic agenda for Abia said the time has come for the state to break out of poverty, urging the governor to provide the perquisite leadership.
The two-day summit, which ended yesterday also had notable Abians and non-Abians, including Chief Ojo Maduekwe, Onyema Ugochuckwu, Frank Nweke Jnr, Mazi Sam Ohuabunwa, among others in attendance.

While Okonjo-Iweala was particular on the new debt profile of the state, Nweke Jnr was worried that Abia State had continued to sink on every front, while Maduekwe noted that rather than talk about re-election, the wisest thing to do was for the current administration to give a good stewardship of the subsisting tenure and consequently ride on the back of that to re-election.
According to Daily Sun investigation, Okonjo Iweala’s concern stemmed from what appeared to be a borrowing spree embarked upon by the current administration soon after Orji assumed office. At one instance the state government was said to be owing virtually every bank in the state and servicing the loans soon made it impossible to meet several other obligations.

The economic summit, the first of its kind in the state, was aimed at placing the state on the right pedestal to maximise its full potential for sustainable economic growth.

The agenda, which emerged at the summit had all the stakeholders, including the state government, agreeing that time had really come for Abia to break out from the “locust years” and chart a new course for a sustainable economic growth.

Okonjo-Iweala, who set the tone of the agenda in her keynote address, was “brutally frank” in her assessment of the performance of past and present governments in Abia.
She said Abia is a state that “we all know is developing below its potential” and that “Abians do not feel the presence of their government.
“It is a state that could be driving the Nigerian economy, but instead is way behind where it should be because of poor management and poor infrastructure (hence) Abia’s development is behind the national average with poor showing on social indicators.”

The World Bank boss noted that with the strategic importance of Abia in the South-east zone and Nigeria, it must take its rightful place and become a strong contributor to Nigeria’s economy by building on past strategies like SEEDS and identifying new opportunities.

“Abia’s economic landscape looks dismal. Most formal industries in the state have either closed shops or are performing well below capacity. Only the informal sector of manufacturing SME’s in Aba is thriving along with trading. Most Abians depend on remittance sent by relatives outside the state . Yet Abia has a vision and strategy for its development laid out in as early as 2005 that is the state economic empowerment development strategy (ABSEEDS). ABSEEDS is a roadmap for Abia state to harness its resources and choose the appropriate route to industrialization and economic development. The document is progressive in recognising that private capital can play a vital role in stimulating industrial growth and alleviating poverty through privatization of state parastatals, public partnerships and other collective efforts .
After mapping out the priorities , the first thing people ask is always money. How do we finance the development agenda? This is a legitimate and important question. My answer is that we need to proactively and creatively find resources for our development. Abia was very constrained by debt burden until it was relieved.

At this juncture , she explained that the Paris Club wrote off all the debts being owed during the time she was in the office. “I do not know the current annual budget flows from the Federal Government to the state, but what ever we get must be efficiently used .

In the meantime, we can no longer fall into the delusion that we can rely solely on the financial resources from the federal government to support our development vision. We need to increase our own internally generated resources and revenue . We are starting from a very low base. It also means that the space for potential increase is big.
“Another idea is to issue a Diaspora bond to tap into the vast resources in the Abians overseas to supplement the state finance. That said , to me finance is not the bottleneck for Abia’s growth. The fundamental constraint is lack of good governance. Returning to where I started, for Abia to have any development prospect, and embark on a new development path we need to get our own house in order.

“We should confront the paramount challenges in security, governance and infrastructure. Only with a secure and business friendly environment we can make full use of our vast human capital to develop the economy by focusing on selected sectors of comparative advantage such as education and health services, manufacturing, construction and IT-related industries and agriculture.”

She, therefore, called on Abia to take advantage of its vast potentials in human and natural resources to expand its frontiers of development, adding that the new development agenda could be achieved without relying solely on money but by “proactively and creatively” locating and utilising resources needed for development.

Governor Theodore Orji spelt out his vision for the envisaged economic growth of Abia, saying that it would revolve around sustainable security, revival of Aba, the industrial and commercial of the state, as well as resuscitation of moribund industries and provision of conducive environment for the private investors to do business in the state.
In one of the sessions, a panel of discussants that included chairman of Nigeria Economic Summit Group, Mazi Sam Ohuabunwa, Executive secretary, Frank Nweke, Jnr; Kalu Idika Kalu, Diamond Bank Managing Director, Emeka Onwuka, Chief Ojo Maduekwe, Chief Onyema Ugochukwu, Senator Uche Chukwumerije, among others spelt out a number of things that needed to be done to drive Abia’s economy.

In his own contribution Frank Nweke (jnr) said for any economy to move forward, the leadership of the state “ must have a clear vision, put the right team in place and hold them accountable. When we had two spark leadership in government, we achieved a lot. Followership is as important as leadership,” he said.

Senator Chukwumerije said that the state was yet to get to the root of the crime of kidnapping, adding that “we have only driven away the kingpins”, adding that if the federal government can invest 10 percent of what they have invested in other states, in Abia, the state can sustain the success already achieved. Ugochukwu said that Abia state has been living on what he described as the years of the locust. “What needs to be done is to have the focus, political will to implement the good plans. People shy away from investing here because of lack of infrastructure and security situation” Kalu Idika Kalu said that sense of mobilization is what the state have to seek. The leadership in the state should go out to ensure that every community has a sense of belonging to the government in power. There should be a sense of belonging and a team that will do that should be set up.”

Sam Ohuabunwa said that the critical thing in dealing with poverty is investment. The existing advantage we have is that anything can be made in Aba. He said that things must be done according to rules for any state to move forward.
Reacting after the discussion, Dr Okonjo Iweala said that one of the worst situation that is driving people away from Aba is it nature of uncleanliness. “Why don’t you clean up Aba so that Investors who come can feel safe.”
She explained that she once came to Aba with some one who should have invested in the city but that the dirty nature of the city drove him away and since then it is difficult for her to invite any body. Aba should be the China of Africa, but people live inside rubbish and children play inside rubbish in Aba,” Iweala lamented.


http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/dec/08/national-08-12-2010-28.htm

Information I found about today's politician who played a major role in the divide and conquer tactic on the Igbo during the 'abandon property' era[b]:[/b]

Igbo personalities like the Ihekwabas and Nzimiros dominated city government, local politics and commerce. The Igbo influence was so pervasive that the sprawling city was better known by its acronym of Pitakwa. Its real name? Port Harcourt! At the end of the civil war the indigenes (so the new town founded by the English on virgin land, given an English name and developed by settlers did belong to some indigenous families after all!) decided that the best way to resolve the indigene/settler dichotomy was to dispossess the Igbo of their property and rename most of the constituent quarters (by adding a 'R' prefix) in order to emphasize the point that "the city belongs to the Ikwerre (linguistically an Igbo sub-dialect) not the Igbo." A committee headed by one Maj. David Mark (current Senate President) was immediately set-up to execute the plan and the morally offensive phrase of 'abandoned property' was added to the nation's political lexicon.

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Chief SAMUEL ONUNAKA MBAKWE, champion of the Igbo cause in the scandal of ‘abandoned property’ when following the civil war in 1971, federal authorities oversaw the wholesale expropriation of Igbo properties, industries and other investment in the oil city of Port Harcourt whose growth had been an Igbo and Eastern regional achievement over the past 70 years; he later distinguished himself as a remarkably achievement-oriented state governor of the old Imo State (now comprising Ebonyi, Abia and Imo) in the 1979-83 period, building over 15 major industries, rehabilitating the otherwise war-scarred cities and roads – and yet paid salaries and was never accused of stealing public funds. Sounds unbelievable today.

[size=18pt]2011: North’s leaders in new plot to stop Jonathan[/size]

Yusuf Alli 08/12/2010 01:50:00



Still committed to their bid for the retention of power in the North next year, about 12 leaders of the North have held a secret meeting in Abuja on the legal options to stop President Goodluck Jonathan.

Besides, the elders have floated a “Plan B”, should former Vice-President Atiku Abubakar is technically disqualified by the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

Three other presidential aspirants on consensus platform have been placed on standby, should Atiku is disqualified.

They are ex-President Ibrahim Babangida; Governor Bukola Saraki; and a former National Security Adviser, Gen. Aliyu Gusau.

Investigation by The Nation revealed that the Northern power brokers met under the aegis of the Northern Elders Assembly in Maitama District in Abuja.

On the agenda were how Atiku was chosen; the forthcoming presidential primaries of the PDP; and the need for a conclusive legal action to stop Jonathan from contesting the 2011 poll.

It was learnt that they had already engaged some retired jurists from the North on the implications of last Wednesday’s judgment by the Chief Judge of the FCT, Justice Lawal Gumi and how to manage the appeal arising from it.

Mr Justice Gumi said although zoning exists and it is binding on PDP, the court would not stop President Goodluck Jonathan from contesting the 2011 poll.

But since the verdict was given, some Northern leaders have been meeting on how to stop Jonathan through the court.

At the Maitama meeting, one of the leaders admitted that he had contacted a source who said “the case can be won against Mr. President”, if it is pursued up to higher courts.

Buoyed by the assurance, it was gathered that the leaders asked a former Minister to “along with his legal team revisit the case and come out with plausible prayers to present to the Court of Appeal”.

Those at the meeting were not immediately known last night, but a source said Dalhatu Bashir Dalhatu, Fatima Balla and Bello Kurfi, one of the “nine wise men” Ciroma Committee that picked Atiku as the consensus candidate.

Another source claimed that Isa Salami and Aminu Aliyu Datsima were there. They could not be reached for confirmation last night.

A source at the meeting said: “The North is ready for a fresh legal battle against Jonathan. It is going to be a fight to the finish up to the Supreme Court on this zoning matter.

“These elders have briefed their counsel to appeal against the judgment as there was no clear sanction against the PDP.

“Some influential Northerners have also advised the leaders to consult with retired Justices from the zone for ‘informed assessment and advice’ on any area deserving amendment to make the appeal stronger.

“We may actually be heading for a political stalemate, if either the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court makes any landmark pronouncement on this zoning issue.”

Security agencies have got wind of plans to use the court to scuttle the presidential primaries in the PDP, The Nation learnt.

“I think the Presidency is aware of the latest plot and it is on top of the situation. We cannot afford to go back to June 12, 1993 era,” a government official said.

It was learnt that the leaders plan to discuss with Atiku “on the legal option and the possibility of going to court for the interpretation of the PDP constitution on zoning as the elders were earlier advised.

“This will be different from the litigation over the same issue being handled by Sani Dutsinma, a chieftain of the PDP in Katsina State.

On Plan B, one of the leaders said: “The recent decision by the committee after the announcement of Atiku as the consensus presidential choice was for them to work on other alternative but viable options.

“The leaders wanted other presidential aspirants to be on stand-by, should Atiku, by whatever reasons, be disqualified from contesting in the PDP primaries/National Convention and should there not be enough time for litigation over it; one or two of the other aspirants would continue the contest.”

But despite the Plan B, the leader said the meeting agreed that Northern leaders would go ahead to promote Atiku’s candidacy.

The source added: “As a matter of fact, a mass rally is being planned for the North’s Consensus Candidate in Bauchi to underscore Northern leaders’ commitment to retain power in 2011.

On the choice of the consensus candidate, a member of the Search Committee was said to have briefed the Maitama session on why Atiku was chosen by the NPLF leaders.

The source quoted the member as saying: “Contrary to the feeling that ex-President Ibrahim Babangida would have been a better northern consensus presidential choice, the members had looked at the controversies that would have followed had IBB been picked.

“The committee looked at the challenges which Babangida’s candidacy would have posed to the North in the Southwest, Southsouth and some parts of the North.”


http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/21084.html

If I had my way i'd call for a Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala/Lamido Sanusi presidential ticket.

^^^ Your point?

alj harem:
chyz u are back

my brother how u day na

i dey mehn! .how u dey?let the politicking begin.

They say that when your surroundings are unsuccessful in what they are doing, in order for you to be successful you do the opposite. If government control of electricity has been unable to provide us with light since the beginning of the countries existence, I see no reason why trying something new would hurt. What could go wrong, the privatization of electricity causing us to have to steady power or power period? But them what would be the difference of that and now? hmmm.

[size=18pt]We Will Resist Privatisation Of Electricity[/size]

Wednesday, 08 December 2010 01:41 Moses John, Abuja



Vice President of Public Service International Africa, (PSI) Comrade Peters Adeyemi has said that privatization of Electricity in Nigeria would not guarantee steady power to households but would rather lead to a regime of tariff increase for the consumers.

He said rather than the planned privatization, government should provide investments needed to stimulate the economy for rapid growth,saying this would impact directly on all households in the country .

Adeyemi who doubles as the deputy president of NLC and the general secretary of Non Academic Staff of Nigerians Universities (NASU) made this known at the PSI Africa and Arab Countries strategic think-tank meeting in Abuja yesterday.

According to the union leader, a recent World Bank study of investment in electricity and other infrastructure in Africa shows that private companies provide only 10 percent of total investment in the sector and that all of that is in Independent Power project (IPP).


http://www.leadershipeditors.com/ns/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20870:we-will-resist-privatisation-of-electricity-&catid=16:headline-news&Itemid=102

igbobuigbo:
Assuming PDP is unremovable, as they appear to be:

Question: If Jonathan agrees to hand over power to the North in 2015, where does that leave Igbos?

Answer: It leaves them in the lurch until 2023

Question: If Atiku wins where does it leave Igbos

Answer: It leaves them till 2015, or at the latest, 2019. Yet they will enjoy VP-ship during the entire period.


Therefore, Igbos be wise.

Bros, a mind is truly a terrible thing to waste. First of all that we Igbos need is a fair amount of Federal allocations(not just money). This wish has already been initiated by GEJ. This should be the first thing on your mind. If GEJ provides for us what we've been fighting for and makes things equally, then you would have to ask yourself why he shouldn't run again in 2015.why would there be need for an Igbo president in 2015 if GEJ is getting things done? Now if he's not then thats a whole nother story.

Also let me give you something to thing about, IBB has threatened to leave the PDP along with many other northerners if the zoning agreement isnt met.What makes you think that they(northerners) cannot do the same think en-masse when the time approaches for an igbo presidency? It would be planned and manipulated by Atiku(the president,which has the highest manipulation power in the land of Nigeria) way before 2015. If that happens PDP will be powerless.The SW is pretty much out and there are PDP problems in Enugu, Ebonyi, Abia which leaves a great chance of the APGA to pull these states out of PDP hold so where would that leave PDP? Please think hard bro.

Blazay:
Oh dear.
Not again.


Why don't the Igbos just concentrate on building their communities instead of eyeing the presidential seat come 2015?

Why is it so important?

Is it a matter of life and death?

Thank u.

[size=18pt]Okonjo-Iweala canvasses Diaspora strategy to curb kidnapping, others[/size]

Wednesday, 08 December 2010 00:00 From Gordi Udeajah, Umuahia News - National



A FORMER Finance Minister and current Managing Director of the World Bank, Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, has advocated strategic involvement of the Diaspora as part of a multi-pronged strategy for dealing with the grave economic and social challenges facing Abia State.

Chief of Army Staff, Lt.-Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika, had during a visit to Governor Theodore Orji reiterated the military’s determination to stamp out kidnapping and other crimes in the state.

In a speech titled: “A new agenda for sustainable development of Abia State”, delivered at the First Abia State Economic Summit, she placed the blame for the state’s backwardness squarely on longstanding poor governance and woeful infrastructure. She described the current situation in the state as not only serious but also indefensible considering its human and material wealth.

Her words: “It is a state that could be driving the Nigerian economy, but instead is way behind where it should be because of poor management and poor infrastructure. As a result, Abia’s development is behind the national average with poor showings on social indicators. According to the Federal Office of Statistics, more than 50 per cent of the population lives in poverty and the life expectancy is below 54 for men and 55 for women. Child mortality rate is 191 per 1,000 live births compared to 86 per 1,000 live births for the whole nation”.

Okonjo-Iweala disclosed that she was advised by the World Bank not to travel to Abia because it is considered the most dangerous state in Nigeria today.

“Abia today has become the kidnap capital of Nigeria. Most Abians are afraid to come home especially for celebrations. Most foreigners are advised by their embassies not to travel to Abia. This travel alert system was activated when I said I was traveling to Abia State. The alert advised me to avoiding travel to the state”.

She identified three key areas - security, infrastructure and governance - as critical but pointed to human resources as the state’s greatest strength.

She declared that if the right structures are put in place, the state can enhance and channel its healthy share of the country’s $10 billion annual receipts in remittances into boosting industry, job creation, education, health, environmental sustainability and other key areas, which can help ameliorate the serious challenges facing the state.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31709:okonjo-iweala-canvasses-diaspora-strategy-to-curb-kidnapping-others&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

agbotaen:
i  am very proud of my ancestory as a proper owa man from the lineage of obi igbegidi no gidigan the second king of owa , i am from the omigie and agbontaen lineage who were children of obi igbegidi that  makes me a royal son of the royal idumuezomor village in owa kingdom, so buzz off , i  have told you that if a product is good people will identify with ,but why do  you want ikas to identify with a bad product ? you keep saying owa is from nri , please give me the nri culture that owa practices  and i will give you  40 benin practices in owa for one from nri .
         the thing you igbos dont want to hear is that ikas are no  apendage for any body ,not even  the igbos or binis , my ancestors waged  war against the british and bini people to establish their independence ,and as for some ikas in the extreme areas that are near aniocha like in igbodo and may be  in mbiri areas who  say they are igbos , then that is ok  with me as i  have always said that ikas are from different places.but let me tell you an igbo  person cannot fantom the kingship and royalty in ika land because they dont know what it is.
     the obi  of owa ,like all ika obis belong to ogua ika, they do not belong to ohaneze ndigbo. the obi  of owa knows he is ika .it is only the obis of asaba, ogwashi  and other communities along asaba area that attends, ika kings and noble men do not belong.
       pls. visit owa kigdoms website to  know more -www.ndiowa.com . and  owa existed before odogun came from ute-okpu,with his borthers ezomor,igbegidi,ogbeje.even ute-okpu history has two version like that of owa which says odogun came from nri and another said he came from benin.
      but before that time owa was already established by adagba and ugasogun about 400 years before odogun.
             no body is saying igbos did not contribute to owa via migration,so  also did the benin who  founded the place, but the reality is that we are now ika people ,we are neither binis or igbos period. if you go to  owa till today in the villages they will make comparison between an  ika person and an igbo  person,so just know that.
         i  am  ika for  live and i  love being , ika and i am proud of my culture .any  one that wants to be igbo should be  igbo and any one that wants to be ika should be  ika.as for abuses any one who  abuses me or ika people will hence forth be paid back  with abuses, i  dont know why igbo people want to kill themselves with ika people, when they themselves have not delved much in to  their history as some igbo people will say they are from isreal , others say they are from nri , others from igbo-uku and others form another place , my family has our hisotry records from the 13th century up till now .

I decided to search for the website you posted it was incorrect but i found the site that i believe you ment to post: http://ndi-owa.com/index.php/. By the way that guy on the for from looks like a pure igbo man lol. but that is besides the point. I'm glad you are proud to be an ika son.You should stay like that;however, the disrespect of other clans in order to distance yourself for the Igbo is uncalled for. Now i have to call you to order when facts are being altered;but let me make this clear, noone has the right to force you to be anything.Keep in mind also, write it down if you like, "You can not NOT WANT TO BE something, you just dont have the power to choose.You were already made before you thought you had a choice to choose". No matter how white michael jackson painted himself, or how much he pinkened his lips, he was still a black man. He had no picks or chooses over that. Creation can't create itself.

Now back to the website, the person you have listed as "Odogun",i'm guessing you spelled it that way to make it sound and look bini, is infact named "Odogwu" in the website and he was there,according to the site, before the Benin Empire imposed itself on your people. Now the site makes it clear the kings imposed on your people by the Binis.

Now according to the site you posted, now this isn't by me so don't insult me, it is inferred that there were no igbo migration. The people were already there first and the society set up like Igbo societies across both sides of the rivers and also called the same thing, "Idumu". Now don't insult me or anybody else.I'm just pointing out things from YOUR reference.You brought it on yourself. I advise everybody to take a look at the Pre Colonial Era  of the history page.Please read that who section especially the good stuff towards the bottom : http://ndi-owa.com/index.php/history

Sweetnecta:
@Uplawal: The Rashad Khalifa Cult Exposed.
Hadith #1: Rashad Khalifa - 20th century Hadithist? This article exposes the lies and false Sayings of Dr. Khalifa that he claimed were inspired by Allah ,
www.answering-christianity.com/rk_cult_exposed.htm - Cached - Similar


This man is a cult leader and hope Chyz is not suckering in anybody or himself, if he is truly a believer in Allah?

Would a book like this need a hadith to help you understand it? Look at the Superiority of this book alone.:

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Sweetnecta:
@Chyz: I live in the United States and I know about Rashid Khalifah. If he is or was a muslim, Allah is the Knower of it. I will never take his writing seriously. This is a new age deviant, calculating numbers and discrediting the messenger.


@Uplawal: The quickest way to lose Islam is to listen to deviants.

May Allah help us from their tricks. Amin. Many will say they are muslims, but instead they come to seduce muslims away from Islam. I'm not accusing any one. I do not suspect anyone.

Many do pose as muslims, but they are not. By Allah, I'm a muslim, following Muhammad (AS) in the way of our Lord.


Khalifah, ignorantly said that Ibrahim [AS], is the first Muslim. What was Adam, or Idris or Nuh (AS). They were listed among the Prophets and muslims and Muminu.


I will not respond in this thread because I can see a deceiption in the works,similar to the british in precolonial India; they dressed up like muslims, and from afar, they will seize an animal, a cow and slaughter it in front of the hindus. The Hindus will run, chasing after them, who have disappeared before the Hindus get close, to actually know these were white Europeans and not their neighbors, the Indian Muslims.The hindus will go on rampage, against the muslims, fighting, hurting and killing them.

Are real muslims going to bring into the community of muslims, fitna of this type on the thread? No.

Brother there is no book mightier than the Holy Quran. Everything is in it. No Torah, no Bible, nothing can come against it, and that is a fact. It DOES NOT contradict itself. Look at the Power of the Holy Quran. NO BOOK CAN COME AGAINST IT!

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Abuzola !:
So Prophet muhammad copied the jahiliyah tradition ? SubhanAllah, the way he buried are all of jahiliyah tradition, anything outside the Quran that you do is jahiliyah tradition ? Inalilahi wa ina ilayi raji un, they don finish my sister o.

Concerning the inheritance you said Allah never said one share of a male equal two portion of the female go to Quran 4:11 'ALLAH commands you as regards your children's inheritance to the male, a portion equal that of  two female,' so who is now lying aunty mi ?.


So the salat we pray which is not in the Quran was as well borrowed from the jahiliyah ? Oh then what about fatiha and tahiyyah ? Also from them ? Lol, i don laff tire today, too bad.

She is write these things were practiced way before The Prophet was known to be. It is not jahiliyah tradition she is talking about but practice that were in place even during the life of Prophet Ibraham.

The Book(Bible)

Deuteronomy 21:23

"the body must not remain hanging from the tree overnight. You must bury the body that same day, for anyone who is hung is cursed in the sight of God. In this way, you will prevent the defilement of the land the LORD your God is giving you as your special possession."


Mark 16: 1-3

When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body. Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb and they asked each other, “Who will roll the stone away from the entrance of the tomb?”

^^^Practice of cleasing the dead body for burial.


And as far as the inheritance in Quran 4:11, it does not say that 2 women equal 1 man. That verse is based on portion of inheritance alone.

Abuzola !:
Uplawal- do not be a blind follower, hadith showed us that Aisha  was a leader, people go to her to learn, even her father. .
I challenge u to show me the hadith that says women shouldn't go to school , shouldn't be educated, they should be discriminated, if you can't show me the hadith and its number  for verification then is a shame. Am coming to show u raw verses in the Quran, i bet u will be dumbfound

Ironically, even their Hadiths forbid Hadith.

    The Prophet said, "DO NOT write down anything from me EXCEPT THE QURAN." [Ahmed, Vol. 1, Page 171, and Sahih Muslim]

    This Hadith states that the Prophet maintained his ANTI-HADITH STAND UNTIL DEATH. [Ahmed, Vol. 1, Page 192]

In fact, on the Day of Judgment, The Prophet will say…

Quran

25 Furqan 30

"AND on that Day the Apostle will say: “O my Sustainer! Behold, some of my people have come to regard this Qur’an as something that ought to be discarded!"

Sweetnecta:
@Chyz:  #32 on: Today at 05:01:29 AM »So how do you carry out this "Quranic Verse" above, especially when there is no light of Hadith and Sunnah in your Islam? Allah says make Salatul Subh, in the Quran. From the Quran give the process of the Salatul Subh? But in the hadith on Salah we read that Muhammad (AS0 and his Sahaba (RA) made 2 fard Rakah, and made sunnah prayers before it. If you obey the Quran without obedience to the Hadith and Sunnah of Muhammad that has a Quranic Thread/Tie to it, have you obeyed Allah, by following His verse above, in full obedience to His Messenger (AS)?

Is opposition not the negative of obedience? Chyz, may Allah guide your heart. Amin. Many Imams will provide anything to fit their own intention. Some oppose Muhammad (AS), even today and they have opposed Allah by it. There is a new religion in Nigeria called CHRISLAM. It has a good following. Are they muslims? The answer is no; what is different from what Muhammad preaches, actualized and said of what is revealed to him in Quran and what he was made to say and do in Hadith and sunnah are what true Islam is. If it was by Allah's Mercy to show us how to correct our Salah, the messenger would not have shortened his Salatuh Asr that many said is not a salah. It is that very Salah that Allah used to tell us how to make the two sajada of forgetfulness and correct our salah. If it was not in Hadith, we would not have known that an Imam could be corrected in recitation of Quran in Salah, when Ibn Mas'ud (RA) who is not from the Ahlul Bayt (RA) corrected the Messenger (AS). Allah used the Prophet to explain the ayah of Quran, giving us in full what we need for Islam, and not the new "ISLAM" of the individual sheikh.


@Abuzola ! (m)Amin for all Muslims. males and females.

One should ask if the sheikh is greater than Muhammad (AS) himself, who follows his own hadith? Or they think the prophet said these things explaining the Quran and didnt obey them himself? How about the Companions (RA), who obeyed them along with him, in his presence (AS)?

The Worst Nightmare on earth of the Kufar is firm believer.


@uplawal (f): « #34 on: Today at 09:27:46 AM »I pray it is the laughter of joy, preventing you away from innovation in this deen; refusal to acknowledge Hadith and Sunnah that are from Muhammad (AS), seeing that they agree with Quran.

Is there a difference between the two? Did Muhammad (AS) have a horrible personality and was given a great religion, and yet his personality didnt change by it? Please explain, because I am confused by your statement here. Muhammad measured up to par of what he was given. He was a great youth. Excellent young man and family man, trust worthy and the best of all before his Prophetic office. He did not get worse, but excellence in Character that his Lord praised him in His Quran, and praised him in the company of the Angels (Surah Azhab).

Allahu Akbar. May Allah guide us and not bring human shayatin to our lives. Amin. We are aware of the Shaytan and his jinnu followers. But there are humans who are tools in his fighting believers, too. They are disbelievers and also hypocrites among Muslims. There will never be Muminu among them. My sister, stay away from these hypocrites. They are worse than Kufar, who you can identify, plainly. How do you attain Taqwa, except copying Muhammad (AS) and his followers (RA)? How do you do things that are women except you copy the wives of the Prophet (AS), or are you going to copy the wives of the big sheikh, whose wife is wearing Iro ati Buba, fayasile, with gele onile gogoro? The Oko, big sheikh will never leave is beard to grow, except that he shaves it, or make it that a he goat, as if he cant decide between shaven and a few hairs.

Is this all that hadith is? This is why that hadith that disagrees with Quran is not authentic. SInce you can see that Quran says everyone must seek knowledge. The prophet (AS) said the same thing as well. and the women 9RA) around him (AS) were scholars, as well, you will know that the hadith that says women should be prevented from getting education, or even going to Masjid are wrong.

You know that there are many more hadith that spoke about education of the whole community. Culture is different, and Islam is something that stands on its own.

Amin to the dua. Now the answer to the bold is not in my knowledge. But I can assure you as a man, a married man, since most sexual transgressions are carried out by men, and for the most part the instigator, egging women on, should have his excitement with his wife. You see something you like out there, go home to your wife and excite her and yourself. There is a ready made partner for body wife and husband. That is similar to a wealthy man like Bill Gate who goes on a credit card fraud, compared to a poor man who does the same thing. The whole world will be outraged about Bill Gates' financial mistakes like that, if it happens, while a poor man may be sentenced to a prison term of some length, almost all will want Bill Gates to take much more, even lifer or worse.

The bold answers your question. And he didnt, since there s no place that Allah declared him a loser, hence we have to safely state that Allah permitted the harsher punishment for person who committed adultery while a mere whipping is allowed the fornicator. I must say this though that burying the adultery person half way without no ability to escape, striking hm or her in the upper body only, including the face and  gagging him or her in a way that he or she cant cry out and take back the confession is not in the Sunnah of the messenger (AS). I have not read where a person was buried to his or her chest and muffled that he or she cant run, cry or say "I didnt do it". When a dead person was reported to have ran and cried out that he didnt do it, the prophet was angry and said to the community, you should have left him alone to Allah to decide his case. To me that is the best of Morality, and Kindness among mankind on a person who has been declared guilty as charged. This is in a present day similar to a man who was found guilty and has had his last meal, strapped in the electric chair, with the first jolt of current in his body, he cried out, I am innocent. The whole killing thing was commanded to stop. And this should be the president set for the society.

Allah says if you love Him, you should obey Muhammad (AS). Thats from Allah. I bet that a woman who finds her husband in bed with a woman who is not the co wife, will want the husbands head on a platter. She could tolerate the co wife and her husband, but a woman he is not married to, he and that woman must die, that would be her wish. If she has the power to carry t out, she would do it on the spot. Why are we saying that the punishment of a man who has a wife, but he strays should be as light as that of the man who is unmarried receiving only 100 lashes, which he can die through the lashes as the son of Umar bin Khatab did? And Allah does not expose a person when a particular type of sin is committed the very first time. He exposes the person when it becomes a routine in the eye of the sinner, not caring and becomes unashamed about it. May Allah protect us and conceal our shame and forgive us our sins.

Allah says that one should obey one's parent until they ask you to disobey Allah. Allah says obey Muhammad (AS) if you love Allah. There is no place that Allah ever said one can disobey Muhammad. And there is verse that Allah says that you must obey your parent at all cost, even if it means disbelief. We already know that there is no disbelief in Muhammad (AS) who Allah guided; Quran, Islam, being His Messenger and Prophet, singly to the whole world, praising him as the best example to follow. No need to exaggerate the quality of Muhammad (AS). Obeying him is obedience to Allah. What Allah permits is obedience to Allah. When Allah says obey Muhammad, it is that which is by its very nature of Commandment from Allah that is Obedience to Allah. Did Iblis disobey Allah or was it Adam that was disobeyed because he didnt receive prostration from Iblis? Of course it was Allah that Iblis disobey. You wanna obey Allah, Uplawal, you follow what Allah says in the Quran, and ignore some new age Sheikh and his hypocritical thoughts. Allah says obey Muhammad in many places. There is no single verse Allah says Muhammad should be disobeyed for whatever reason, since He is the One Who guided him (AS). The only reason we know that some hadith are not from Muhammad (AS) are that they are always in complete disagreement with Quran and the known quality of the prophet (AS).

No one ever raised him more than how Allah raised him. No one ever praised him more than Allah praised him. It wil be impossible, anyhow. However, just because we wanna be clear that he was no more than a human, we should not disregard him, because we will be by extension disregarding what Allah says about him and what he said very clearly about himself (AS).

Amin to your dua. Whats your thought about your messenger (AS)? Where do you fault his personality. Is the Tucson Oklahoma sheikh a better morality? Let us all fear Allah Who is our Creator and dont let shaytan in form of our ego (desire) comes between our heart and our connection cord to Allah. That cord is what Allah gave Muhammad in essence; Islam and the way he practiced it.

I will answer all of these verses in a few words and verses. It seems as though the Quran is not enough for you so i will give you a verse from the Quran and a verse from the The Book( Allah explains that it is corrupted but still contains some of his words in it).

The Bible

Deuteronomy 4:1 "Israel, listen to the RULES AND LAWS I'M GOING TO TEACH YOU. FOLLOW THEM"

Deuteronomy 4:2[i] "DO NOT ADD to what I'm commanding you. DO NOT SUBTRACT FROM IT EITHER. Instead, OBEY THE COMMANDS OF THE LORD your GOD" that" I am giving you.
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[b]The Qur'an

18 Kahf 27

"You shall recite what is revealed to you of YOUR LORD's SCRIPTURE. NOTHING SHALL ABROGATE HIS WORDS, and you SHALL NOT FIND ANY OTHER SOURCE BESIDE IT."



I understand the traditions of the hadith have become dear to you but do not associate it with Islam. If you want to do it on your own then that is by your own will but surely Allah did not give the hadiths and neither did The Prophet.

Holy Qur'an

9 Tauba 31

"They have set up their religious leaders and scholars as lords,* instead of GOD. Others deified the Messiah, son of Mary. They were all commanded to worship only one god. There is no god except He. Be He glorified, high above having any partners."

When The Prophet was given the Quran, the Jews and Christians rejected him and the Quran because they did not want to abandon their traditions. It gave them too much power in the worldly life.

azharuddin:
@chyz
Both mean the same. Only thing is the different translators use different synonyms in English. Please read both the translations properly.
I have been never accused of such a big thing before. Made me really sad. My heart is feeling heavy.

May Allah guide us in the right path. You are the most Merciful, forgive us all from all our sins. Ya Raheem Ya Rahmaan have mercy on us.
Ameeen.

Sorry bro, did not mean to make you feel down. Please accept my apologies.

uplawal:
@Chyz,Alhamdullilah and thank you too,if not for Allah who can guide? no one,i need not be too surprised because Allah says,he will guide us to righteousness as long as we obey him,the bottom line there is to obey him,He guided me to Islam,and he will not forsake me but to guide me more

Essalamu alaikum sister.

Remain on the path of Allah for he has supplied in great detail all that needs to be done to please him in the Quran. Let none misguide you away from viewing the Quran as powerful enough to hold its own. It does not need to be strengthened by any other book. Salam and may Allah's guidance be with you and all.

azharuddin:
Surah Al-Nisa (4:115):
[size=14pt]"He that disobeys the Apostle (Muhammad) after guidance has been made clear to him and follows a way other than that of the believers, We appoint for him that unto which he himself hath turned, and expose him unto Hell - a hapless journey's end!" [/size]

Please don't pervert the Holy Quran to suit your point.Here is what the verse actually says:

Al-Nisa(4:115)

"And whoso opposeth the messenger after the guidance (of Allah) hath been manifested unto him, and followeth other than the believer's way, We appoint for him that unto which he himself hath turned, and expose him unto hell a hapless journey's end!"

Sweetnecta:
You can a "shekh" that give you what you want in his version of Islam, different and separate from what Allah gave His Messenger Muhammad (AS).

The Nation of Islam spoke about Allah being a man in the name of a guy called Farid from Michigan.
The Ahmadiyyan says about the death of Jesus in Kashmir when Quran says otherwise and being lifted up, and they say their was a Prophet even.
The 5 percenters say they are part of Allah, just like the jews.
The Wahabi can tell you that you can beat your wife, as long as you dont touch her face.
Others make their own brand of Islam. Sufism is a good example.

If Muhammad (AS) was to explain, how did he explain, except by Sunnah and Hadith. If "Hadith" or "Sunnah" is contrary to Quran, then it is something you leave alone. But to say because there is no commandment to stone a married person who committed adultery, is completely wrong, because it is part of the explanation of whipping the unmarried, except that the case of the married is harder. If Muhammad (AS) ordered it, why deny or avoid it?

I will aways follow Muhammad (AS) and those who follow him, until the stopfollowing him, then I will cease to follow them.

The Nation of Islam and 5 percenters take Islam as more of a mental aspect the believe that Allah is the inner person. "Allah" to them is someone who comes to deliver the people, which is a human being. They do not believe that Allah is a spirit or a supernatural being. They believe once you are dead then you are dead, there is no physical place as heaven or hell. They are mere expressions of living good or living in a bad situation/suffering. These two sects are more of an mental empowerment for Black people in the diaspora.

Ahmadiyyan believe that a guy name Ghulam Ahmad was Prophet Isa who who came back to fufill the prophecies. This religion wouldn't have sprung up if not for the Hadith.

Wahabi, is a very strict and relentless sect that was caused by the Hadith. The hadiths help fuel the attitude of a people who were already domineering in nature. It turned them into barbarians. With the hadith it gave them power(evil) and gave them more of a "right" to treat women as subjects,murder people, and enslave people any how.

Sufi is juju.

Sweetnecta:
@Uplawal: A spouse has a way to have his or her sexual tension released, hence his or her punishment for illegal sexual activity should be harsher than the person who is single, having no spouse that is legal for him or her.

100 lashes not less is ordained for such single person. Do you think it shoud be the same for the one who is married, as well?

I can tell you that you can find a shekh that can say that no salah if you push him hard. The Halawi Shia dont make salah for example. How did they arrive at it?

Sweetnecta you should be guiding her with verses from the Holy Qur'an that deal with that matter. All is within the Qur'an. If it states in the Qur'an that 100 lashes she must receive then that is what she should receive;however, it does not state it in the Holy Qur'an then no one has the right to lay a single lash on any of the persons. Please, you should state the verses in the Qur'an that deals with that issue.

Sweetnecta:
@Chyz: Thanks for your response. However who is the Authority on Islam among humans; Muhammad (AS) or others? If a sheikh or Ulama/Malaam is opposing Muhammad (AS), guess who is the loser? The Sheikh, Ulama/Malaam. Allah allowed Muhammad to have more than 4 wives, while the rest of us are restricted to max of 4, while before salah was commanded, it was compulsory on the prophet, while tahajjud prayer was a choice to muslims, Muhammad (AS) must performed it.

Allah says in many parts of the Quran, even from the beginning of Surah Baqarah that salah must be performed.
Surah Nur verse 58 speaks about the times that one can be in private, corresponding in two to after the salah (Isha and Dhur) before it and one the salah before the salah (Fajr/Suhr) after it.  Surah Baqarah verse 187, in relationship to starting ending time of sawn, Allah gave the dawn and sunset as the landmark time, whereas in Surah Nur, we have noted that there is Salah (Subh for dawn), hence to end sawm, there must be such an event, a salah, in this case Magrib. And in verse 238 of Surah Baqarah, salawat is mentioned to indicate a multiple daily salah (5 daily salah) whereas the middle on is to be strictly guarded. In all our effort, we must not forget that Muhammad (AS) used to make salah and others in his community used to follow him in this, even before salah was ordained, as we have seen, and even before he received the legislation (process) for it in his Isra wa Miraj journey as recorded in Surah Isra and Surah Najm, as it occurred while still in Makka. Allah says that Muhammad should be followed and obeyed, if one is a believer and a lover of Allah. Allah says what Muhammad gives you, oh believer take, and what he forbids you, avoid it. Allah says that one should hurry up to Muhammad (AS) when he calls for what one will receive is what gives life (guidance).
The Noble Qur'an Al-Baqarah 2:238

Guard strictly (five obligatory) As­Salawât (the prayers) especially the middle Salât (i.e. the best prayer ­ 'Asr).[] And stand before Allâh with obedience [and do not speak to others during the Salât (prayers)].

I will now go to the website for knowledge. May Allah guide our hearts on the right path. Amin.

Sister you are idolizing Prophet Muhammad.It is not good.You are to honor him for being a messenger of Allah. The Qur'an repeatedly states this. None had/has the authority amongst humans but Allah. To your question, " If a sheikh or Ulama/Malaam is opposing Muhammad (AS), guess who is the loser?", im guessing your answer is the sheikh or Ulama/Malaam. Your way of thinking is tainted. Your question should have been, " If a sheikh or Ulama/Malaam is opposing Allah, guess who is the loser?", and your answer should be the sheikh or Ulama/Malaam. Anything that comes against Allah shall perish. Now, if they oppose the message(Qur'an)which The Prophet received from Allah then the sheikh or Ulama/Malaam is wrong.

Abuzola !:
Clap for yourself mr chyz for winning a follower.

So uplawal it was mr chyz that made u reject all this ? By Allah today i was just traumatize after our chat, hearing you say all hadith is of the devil, i was just like a sick fella today, c'mon why are u so cheap, i read this thread from the beginning to end, i saw you vigorously outrage at him and challenging him to give up his misguided doctrine eventually it turn upside down,

Have u started praying 3 times a day ?
How about how to bath janaba ?
Oh i remember, the 12th mahdi , is he in the Quran ?
Oops, lest i forget the Quran warn us of having unbeliever as friend, as a Quraniyun i expect you to adhere to the Quran alone by neglecting your christian relative and friend ?
The Quran was laud on jihad, how about getting a gun and go to palestine or even start right there in britain

it is hilarious you know, how are u going to pray salat since Quran didn't explain, stand like a statue ? Lol, where do u get to recite fatiha during salat, tahiyyah, etc, Quran or hadith. La'ailaha ilalah, it means somebody will slide away from being a muslim, is funny but a serious.matter

I hope you are having fun making a mockery of the Qur'an, you will surely pay for it. If you don't believe any of the things I said earlier, believe me now. The Prophet did not authorize the use of any hadith neither was it but together by he or Allah. The Prophet was a messager, his duty was to deliver the message from allah which is the Holy Qur'an,which he did, not the hadith. Uplawal's eyes have been opened be proud of her. If she follows the Qur'an and only the Qur'an is she going against allah? Will she be punished?

babs787:
@chyz

How could you conclude that one is not practising Islam the way it ought to be practised. Are you saying that we should ignore hadiths please and how many times do you pray if I may start from there?

The Qur'an prescribes three prayers a day and these are the only three by name: Salat Al-Fajr (Dawn Prayer)24 Nour 58, Salat Al-Esha (Night Prayer)24 Nour 58, and Al-Salat Al-Wusta (The Middle Prayer) 2 Baqara 238.

PhysicsQED:
Also, Afemai = Etsako. (Well not really, Afemailand includes more than just the Etsakos, such as Uneme and Ivbiosakon, but it's primarily used interchangeably for Etsako.)

So which languages are mutually intelligible, if any?

PhysicsQED:
Somebody said Binis are Yorubas. Someone earlier said they were related to Igbos. If they are, no big deal, nothing wrong with that. Those are actually two of the more interesting groups in Africa, from my perspective. However saying they are really part of this or that larger group or a mix of this or that larger group has to examined in the context of facts and with critical thinking. Binis are located in between Yorubas and Igbos. However Binis are also actually right in the middle of the “Edoid” language groups. There are multiple other different Edoid groups around the Binis who people have neglected to ascribe Yoruba or Igbo origin to, no doubt on the basis of these peoples' very unique languages and cultures and the implausibility of all of these these unique groups also happening to just “be” one of the larger groups or a mix of them. Also, saying they are Yorubas seems a bit like saying that Ibibios are Igbos. In the same way Ibibios are actually closer to Annang, Efik, and Ekoi than Igbo (from my understanding, and I'm not talking politics here), I would point out that Bini are actually closer to Esan, Etsako, Emai,Uneme, Urhobo, Isoko, etc. than Yoruba.

Just out of curiousity, are the Edo languages such as Bini, Esan, Etsako, Afemai mutually intelligible?

azharuddin:
"Obey Allah and obey the Messenger, " (surah Nur: 54)

"And obey Allah and the Messenger that you may obtain mercy" (Surah Aal-Imran: 132)

"O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger, " (Surah An-Nisa: 59)

"And when it is said to them: "Come to what Allah has sent down and to the Messenger," you see the hypocrites turn away from you with aversion" (Surah An-Nisa: 61)

"We sent no Messenger, but to be obeyed by Allah's Leave, " (Surah An-Nisa: 64)

"But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad sallalahu alayhi wasallam) judge in all disputes between then, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission" (Surah An-Nisa: 65)

"And whoever[b] obeys[/b] Allah[b] and His Messenger[/b], fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, such are the successful" (Surah Nur: 52)

"O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger and render not vain your deeds" (Surah Muhammad: 33)

"Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, " (Surah At-Taghabun: 12)


"Certainly, there is an excellent example for you in the Messenger of Allah, for him who looks forward to Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah much." (Surah Al-Ahzab: 21)



You Just contradicted the Quran. Brother i dont want to argue but remember be VERY careful, i repeat VERY careful while declaring things about Islam. You just CONTRADICTED the Quran which is Allah's words!!!
It is VERY clear in the Quran that we should Obey Allah and his Messenger. Iblees will try to mislead us brother. We should not deviate from our Prophet(saw) teachings which is Allah's teachings.

^^^It is quite clear that you are writing based on sentiment and want to prove a point. Nothing that i said contradicted that Qur'an. As you and others on this thread can see, what you have just posted only supports what I am saying. Do not take what I am saying the wrong way, I am only hear trying to let you know the truth, and the truth is all is in the Qur'an which allah has made fully detailed. The Hadith has nothing to do with Islam.

chyz:
Did The Prophet write any of the Hadiths? Did Allah not send him to teach the revelations and the revelations alone? Nowhere in the Quran do we come across a statement like: “Obey God and Muhammad.” “Obey God and his messenger” is the expression used. So, obedience to the Prophet results from his being the transmitter of the message. The emphasis of the Prophet’s mission as messenger has been made in all the verses except one in which the wording is: "Believe what is sent down to Muhammad."

Sweetnecta:
@Chyz: If everything in the Quran you obey, then you cant avoid the Sunnah and Hadith of the Messenger (AS), since Allah says answer the Messenger (AS) when he calls you to waht gives you life. Allah says in many parts of the Quran that if you Love Him, then obey Muhammad (AS), and He Allah Will Love you back. . . Forgiving you your sins, making your affairs easy. Allah has Sunnah, which is Purity. Part of the Sunnah on man is the Commandment to follow what He gave to Muhammad (AS).
If you reject Sunnah and Hadith, tell me how many Rakah in each salah, and why Salatul Magrib remains 3 rakah even if you are a traveler? You will not find these in the Quran, but in Hadith, Sunnah of the Prophet (AS).


While there is no ritual or superstition in what comes from Muhammad (AS), authentic hadith can not disagree with the Quran. Hence to ignore authentic hadith, because you wanna ignore what is fake hadith is completely ignoring the Messenger (AS). After all, it is him his Lord gave the message which he passed on to you, in completeness and in honesty. So are his authentic hadith, sunnah (AS). You cant have Quran and ignore authentic hadith and sunnah and say you are in full submission to Allah. Could you give me an example of Ritual and through in an example of what is superstition?


If I know how to get in touch, I will like to speak with you, and find out which community is it in the US; east coast, southern, where exactly? Islam is universal, but unfortunately, many regions of the world put their own spin on it. When you hear about a sunnah and or hadith, go to Quran. If it agrees with the Quran, if it disagrees with Quran, do not accept it, until you find a thorough explanation. If it agrees with the Quran, adopt it until you find a thorough explanation against it.

You must not have read any of what I typed. Please read with an unbias mind. The Qur'an stands alone. Like I said, if it is not in the Qur'an then I don't do it period. Allah has given me instruction and command through the Qur'an and the Qur'an alone. Its not about how dear the hadith is to you, it is about following the teachings of Islam which are found only in the Holy Qur'an.

Please Go through this link and learn an Islamic scholar "Mallam":

http://www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/qhi/qhi.html

LagosShia:
i believe perfect sense has being made to let you know why and how to accept the hadith and which.

based on the above comment,can you tell us which practice that muslims observe that is not found in the Quran?am curious!

uplawal:
@Chyz,like what sunnah do u do?and how do u go by the example of the prophet if u dnt go into the hadith,lets here o,funny.

or is his footsteps in the Quran?

and what are d things the muslims are doing that u think they are going away from the Quran but following ahadith,remember,the prophet's way of life was not recorded in the Quran?so again,how do u follow his example and where do  u get the example Allah says you should emulate if not in the Hadith

Here is a link that I found after doing research. This should help you understand more:

http://www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/qhi/qhi.html


The Prophet himself was against what you know now as the Hadith!