₦airaland Forum

jason12345:
i personally think if there is any violence, the igalas (south), okun and the kwarans would join the yorubas thus the agitation for the creation of oya state.

jason12345:
. what do you think about 2011 for Ndigbo?

jason12345:
why start with insults  . you have to understand that ACN is viewed as a sw party as pdp is viewed as a northern party(think it was formed by alex though). anyway, lets see 2011.

amingafar:
what makes ibb any different then saraki?

had obasanjo not become president  before theres no doubt in my mind saraki would have support for atleast half of the north.

jason12345:
have you not noticed that the bond between the south west and the edo and delta (itsekiri) is growing? do you know that the present governor of edo is from the ACN party and he is not doing badly (so he would probably be re-elected)?. this are just my thoughts.

jason12345:
. chyz, see what you caused!

jason12345:
it is just edo state that i know of. . . . and may be delta

jason12345:
mid west

jason12345:
yes, that is how it should be! but the SW AND MW would go for the presidency as they are doing now. i think we have to be careful so as not to feel marginalised in nigeria. it takes the determination of a people to achieve what is know as the "Best interest of the people".

i like that. it is just a shame the SW and MW would not unite with Gj instead they would go for the presidency

alj harem:
can i ask how he is pretending to be northern

so igalas think they are northern, something they are yorubas while other are igbos

it all depends on the region u want to be with

jonathan has screwed his people

[b]ohaneze have sold the se vote to the highest bider  [/b]

jason12345:
i do not know much about SE politics but i am very sure that, the people that KNOW their politics in that region would not support GJ

amingafar:
ohaneze needs not to support anyone

and advise ibo to pick the candidate of  their own choices

the middle belt has always been split which is they way its suppose to be I dont expect every igala to be with north or south

amingafar:
when will these people change?

jason12345:
you should consider voting for a credible candidate not a muslim or a northerner but someone that transcends all that. that is my opinion though.

amingafar:
and no bini man will call the oba of lagos a biniman

no matter where is 17th grandfather came from

jason12345:
i think the british wanted to :

1) create a non-symmetrical nigeria (3 regional power) where no one can secede without the other two bring her back
2) they wanted a balance of power because the south was more educated and industrious, thus, they did not want discrimination of the north by the south
3) you are right, they wanted conflict to benefit from the cheap oil used to buy weapons against biafra.

jason12345:
you may be right. but i think it was a slow build up of resentment for the igbos. anyway, what do you think thereason was for attacking 6 months later?

amingafar:
chyz and his big  mouth

what is ibo about this?

The Origin and Development
The actual origin of the Igala people is not quite known. Different people present many versions of legends of immigration There are claims, for instance, that the Igala people came from the Jukun (Kwarara/a), some says Benin, others Yoruba. Yet, others feel they migrated from Mecca (Southern Yemen) or Mali.
In the past, the reigning Atta, His Royal Majesty. Agabaidu (Dr.) Aliyu O. Obaje, had. for instance, explained: "the !gala came from Southern Yemen, passed through Ethiopia (where there is an ethnic group called the Gala) and through the (medieval times} Empire of Mali, to Jukun land; then finally, to our present location."  In another instance, the Atta said that the Igala "came from the Arab country of Yemen and were in the present Nigeria at the same time as the founding fathers of the Yorubas, the Jukuns and the Beriberis or Kanuris Bornu.  He also maintains that the earlier migration into Igalaland was at "about the 12th century A.D, led by Amina, a Zaria princess and warrior. who fought her way to Idah , with Hausa and Nupe followers.
           Certain traditions even hold that the Igala are of Fulani origin, simply because of the similarities in their physical features.  It IS clear that Fulanis do not speak a Kwa language. And owing to the linguistic affinity, others affirm the Yoruba connections. For Byng Halt notes that, "It is not surprising that within a short period of arrival in Igala land, a Yoruba is well acquainted with the language.”  He attributes the ease in learning the language to the closeness of the two languages. Armstrong sticks to this same view when he said: "the most definite historical statement that can be made about Igala is that . they had a common origin with the Yoruba and that the separation took place long enough ago to allow for their fairly considerable linguistic differences. There is a whole corpus of oral traditions on the origin of the Igala people.

amingafar:
religion plays apart in identity. igalas have different origins as I said.

jason12345:
you have to know that igbos in the north would have been viewed as "outsiders coming to take their jobs". also, majority of the igbos are christians so it may be viewed as a crusade (hence the northern military involvement). the northerner might have thought that acting immediately would have been suicidal since the current president was igbo. you also have to take into account that this was the First coup in nigerias history by a christian igbo man.

i am not sure why it failed but i sense betrayal.

amingafar:
If you do not count me as a real northerner what do you say of a kanuri man? or Balewa who wasnt even hausa or fulan but had a fulani mother,

whether you like it or not in this case when it comes to religous leaders and islam the North is united against anything. If anyone thinks only hausa-fulani only partake in religous jihadsyou are mistaken. When it comes to religion hausa and fulani simply dont have the number individual to do anything. But when you talk of people who are mixed and have fulani mother or hausa father the number increases and when you talk of islam which unifies the north there is no stopping the north


because we have our own ethnic problems sure but a kanuri man will not let a fulani imam die at the hands of xtian ibos.

jason12345:
. he has a right to represent the north so as bukola saraki

jason12345:
thats why i said, "couple with the gloating" which reached a climax. it takes some time for people to react especially in this case where an igbo man was still in power.

i am sure when they lost their leader, they were first of all dumb founded and confused. therefore, the pogrom was a planned, over exaggeration act. but never the less, it would still happen in any part of the world.

i have given two examples (usa and saddam) and you would expect them to react the same way.

amingafar:
I am agala and with fulani and nupe background like abubakar  audu
 like most northerners Ive said it on different occasions.

when I speak im not only saying my opnion but the general opinion of northerners I WILL NOT KILL ANYONE. but as I stated

which mayn in the north feel

jason12345:
i would not justify evil, never.

ahmedu bello was killed january and the pogrom started, i think july. am i right?

amingafar:
im tired of this

the average mindset of most people and wars or ethnic clashes is

you kill my father I kill your family

this is why we dont discuss things like this wit ibos  because they will forget how everything started.

i have repsect for alaafin more than Awo.

jason12345:
@ onlytruth and chyz

i can categorically tell you that the same thing would have happened in the west if awo was killed (unfortunately). it would be viewed as a domination act. with that said, imagine what would have been in the minds of the northerns then as their spiritual leader was killed in cold blood coupled with the gloating, the sheepism of the northern population and the lack of education back then?