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LagosShia:
i believe perfect sense has being made to let you know why and how to accept the hadith and which.

based on the above comment,can you tell us which practice that muslims observe that is not found in the Quran?am curious!

To the above, With Pleasure:

PAINTERS GREATEST SINNERS?

Holy Qur'an

4 The Women, 48
God does not forgive who set up partners to God, but He forgives anything else to whom He pleases.


Hadith: The persons who will receive the severest punishment will be painters.
Bukhari-Tasawir

According to the Quran, the greatest sin is to set up partners to God. Every sin is pardonable except this. Therefore these will be the people who will be doomed to eternal punishment. If one is to give credence to Bukhari’s above stated hadith, the painters will be doomed to eternal punishment. (The hadith invented by sectarians and hadith transmitters to show their hostility to arts will be the subject of Chapter 18.)
This hadith contradicts the Quran. Moreover there are other conflicting hadiths. For instance, according to another hadith, chess players will receive the severest punishment (Capital Sins, Hafýz Zahabi).


WEARING GOLD ITEMS AND SILK GARMENTS?

Holy Qur'an

7 The Purgatory, 32
Say: “Who prohibited the nice things God has created for His servants and the good provisions?” Say: “They are believers in the world, and will be exclusively theirs on the day of resurrection.” That is how We explain Our signs in detail for those who understand.


Hadith: “Gold and silk are allowed to be worn by women but forbidden for men.”
Muslim

Gold and silk may be worn both by men and women indiscriminately. There is no hint in the Quran regarding their prohibition. God allows them to be made use of by both sexes. This hadith of Muslim who contends that every one of the hadiths he transmits is valid conflicts with the relevant verse of the Quran mentioned above.


SHOULD RENEGADES BE PUT TO DEATH?

Holy Qur'an

2 The Cow, 256[i]
"There shall be no compulsion in religion."[/i]


Hadith: “Kill the renegade!”
Nesei, Bukhari.

There has been no end to murders due to the work of the hadith fabricators who tried to overrule the injunctions of the Quran. Such hadiths were responsible for legitimizing the massacres committed by extremist organizations. If you were among the defenders of the Sunni sects, your raising objections to these murders would be in vain. Evidence to justify this are embodied in the Sunni books of hadiths and in the books of the sectarians.


WOMEN AS IMAMS, MUEZZINS AND HEADS OF STATE

Hadith: "A community headed by a woman is a doomed community."
Ibn Hanbal Musnad, Tirmizi-Fitan Nesai- Kudat, Bukhari Fiten

Hadith: "Don’t teach women how to read or write. Let them be trained in sewing and see that they recite the Sura The Light."
Ibnul Jawzi-Mawzuat

There is nothing in the Quran to suggest that certain offices are prohibited to women; consequently, they may rise to the position of president, caliph, judge, imam or muezzin (caller to prayer). Everything is permitted unless explicitly prohibited by the Quran. Freedom is the principle while prohibition is an exception; moreover if there are any exceptions, they are explicitly stated in the verses of the Quran. Thus, there are no obstacles for women who desire to attain the above positions. In verses 22 and 44 of Sura The Ant mention the community ruled by a woman. We observe her described as an intelligent and wise woman prudent in that she does not take risks in exposing her community to precarious situations. There is not a single suggestion in the Quran to the effect that a woman cannot be a ruler.


Also the Quran does not say we have to pray 5 times a day.However, the hadith does.The Quran is Allah's command.

There are many many more, especially when it comes to the treatment and clothing of women.The hadiths are filled with ritual.

uplawal:
so u dnt do the sunnah?

I do only what is permitted by Allah and Allah alone.If it is not in the Holy Qur'an then I don't take a part in it.

azharuddin:
Jazkumullahu khairan.
Exactly the reply i wanted to say, but i didnt have enough depth in knowledge to post such a good reply with proof in Quran. Indeed we have to obey Allah's words which is the Quran; and Allah says in the Quran to obey our Messenger(saw). The Messenger(saw) taught us what Allah has revealed to him and the Messenger's(saw) teachings have been compiled as Hadith.

LagosShia:
i really did not bother to read any of the post.from the topic i can understand that the ignorance of the thread opener is hinting at a contradiction between the Quran and Hadith.

the Quran is sufficient for us as a complete divine guide.the hadith is meant to give details and make things more explanative.the Quran is not a story book and therefore i am saying not like the bible for example which narrates stories that sometimes talk of immorality as in the case of Noah,Lot and David.in the Quran you will not find a mention of genealogies like the bible does or the life stories of prophets in their entirety.the Quran presents its narrations about those great men in a concise form with deep meanings and great moral lesson behind each and based on that way we get to know the true identity of each man and what made him what he was.there is a hadith which states that the Quran explains itself.one part can interprete the other part.that is the perfection of the book.

as for the hadith,there are many great hadiths and acceptable and reliable ones.those give additional details and understanding.there are also fake hadiths and ridiculous ones.from the lesson of the 6th Imam among the 12 Imams from the progeny of the Prophet Muhammad,Imam Ja'far as-Sadeq gave the most important rule to hadith.he said that any hadith which contradicts the Quran on any issue or aspect should be thrown into the trash-bin.the Quran takes preference over any literature.the hadith should compliment the Quran and not contradict or oppose the Quran.

uplawal:
@CHYZ,ITS WHAT THE PROPHET EXPLAINED ABOUT THE QURAN and the way he lived his life,thats what is in the hadith,and Allah says we should obey him and follow his step,so whats the problem with that?the hadith is not the book Allah is opposing,if is the one,then ASTAGAFURULLAH,he cant contradict himself by telling us to folow his example.example of such book Allah warned about is Al-Furqan the one distributed in Kuwait,am sure the distributors and manufacturers had met their waterloo already insha Allah

Did The Prophet write any of the Hadiths? Did Allah not send him to teach the revelations and the revelations alone? Nowhere in the Quran do we come across a statement like: “Obey God and Muhammad.” “Obey God and his messenger” is the expression used. So, obedience to the Prophet results from his being the transmitter of the message. The emphasis of the Prophet’s mission as messenger has been made in all the verses except one in which the wording is: "Believe what is sent down to Muhammad."

Did the prophet not say in 7:203 “I follow only what my Lord reveals to me.”? By brothers and sisters that is the authentic example of a real muslim given by The Prophet. This his how you are suppose to be.

Please go back and read the examples I gave you earlier and find truth. Nothing in what i wrote is a lie or deceiving. The hadith is not ordained by Allah or permitted by his messenger.

Allah says in An'am 6:114: "Say: Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt. "

^^^With the above Allah makes it clear that their is no need for a hadith.The are no counterparts to the Quran. Please shine your eyes. Allah had made the Quran FULLY DETAILED. What else do you need to understand it? Is a man's word more clearer than Allah's? The Hadith has perverted the name of Islam and made it look like a intolerant and barbaric religion which it is not even close to being.If there was no hadith would Islam not be?

stranger26:
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah,

I just saw this thread and realised that the reply I posted in your other thread is, perhaps, better suited to this one. So I'm just gonna take the short-cut and just copy-paste =)

Though I do have a few questions to add (just out of plain curiosity):
---How long have you believed in following only the Qur'an?
---What lead you to this belief?
---Do you live in Nigeria? Does the majority of your social group/community believe likewise?

Thank u.

3 years now and it feels great. It really softens the heart, frees the mind, and leaves out the doubt of following another man's influence in the teachings of Allah.

Many things. I'm a really curious person so I like to know exactly about what I am following for myself and not because someone has told me "this is how it is". I noticed there were rituals and superstitious things in the hadith that were not in the Quran so i thought to myself, do i even have to follow any of this stuff since the Quran doesn't permit me to. The Quran is Allahs own words and recordings why would i need anything else.

I am living in the U.S as of now. And no everybody in the social/community group here do not believe that; however, a lot believe it and follow only the Quran.In fact i'd say the majority just follow the quran but during prayer do repect and listen to hadith teaching when the Imam gives the lecture. It all depends what mosque you go to though some do not teach the hadith at all.

uplawal:
Are u  muslim at all?Dnt you know Allah says we should obey the prophet too?and the ahadith explains some part of the Quran even if many parts can be easily understand by mere reading it

Yes i am a muslim. A real muslim that does not Quran needs to be strengthened by a hadith. My question to you is, if there was no hadith would islam be?

Every Muslim having faith in the Islam preached in the Quran knows that he is to obey Muhammad, God’s messenger. The only source that the Prophet has transmitted to us is the Quran. All other books, including the hadith books, are full of slanders. The authorities that claim that God, the Quran and the Prophet must be severed from each other are on the wrong path. Given the fact that we cannot possibly establish contact, the issuer of the message, and the transmitter of it, the only thing that remains for us is the Quran. To follow the messenger means obeying God whose orders the messenger transmitted. He is the herald of God who has brought His messages to humanity. Complying with these messages connotes conformity with God and His messenger as well as with the Quran, the message transmitted. The word resul means the carrier of a message. In other words, the message is not issued by the Prophet, but by God. It is preached thereby that man can attain God only through His messenger.


Muhammad 47:2

But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- He will remove from them their ills and improve their condition.



This is what the Quran says about the hadiths and any other books like it:

Luqman 31:6

But among men there is many a one that prefers a mere play with words [to divine guidance], so as to lead [those] without knowledge astray from the path of God, and to turn it to ridicule: for such there is shameful suffering in store.


An'am 6:114

Say: Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.

An'am 6:115

The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.




Now these are verses that I want you to pay attention to the most. This is where Allah again clearly without doubt speaks against hadiths:

Haqqah 69:43-47

(This is) a Message sent down from the Lord of the Worlds. And if the apostle were to invent any sayings in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, and We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart: Nor could any of you withhold him (from Our wrath).

Al-Imran 3:144

Muhammad is no more than an apostle: many Were the apostle that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah. but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.



Allah shows you clear signs but yet you reject truth. Muslims show denounce the hadiths and wholeheartedly embrace the Quran. Uplawal and others i hope you are paying attention and listening to the WORD. All though the hadith may have become dear to you, it is not Islam and any routines, rituals, or rites you are doing out of the hadith is done out of YOUR OWN will. Do not associate it with or call it Islam.

babs787:
@chyz

What is your definition of practising real Islam?


Read my post again, I never insulted you.

Practicing the real is Islam, is living by teachings in the Quran and Quran only. It is not "my definition" of practicing Islam, it is Allah's definition of Isalm and is our instructions. Am I wrong? If I am then provide the proof.

jason12345:
me? tribalist?? lol . i am just saying what happened and the rumours in the uni (igbo dudes were involved). it is a know fact in the ACS (african Caribbean society). although, they are mostly regarded as nigerians. but the nigerian dudes (mostly igbos, yoruba and rivers dudes, with one hausa guy ). infact, an igbo guy was the president for 2 yrs before last yr (a yoruba) and this yr (ghanaian). .

i have never and will never be a tribalist. i am just saying it as it is

No wahala.

jason12345:
i mean, she totally changed her name. it was not just a middle name stunt. she denies being nigerian. i have never seen such a thing before.

i can give you another example, there is rumour in my uni (among naija guys) that some nigerian girls (igbo origin) even claim that they are from SA etc. i think that happen after the Christmas day attempt by muttalab.

always the igbos huh? yeah just like i thought you tribalist

jason12345:
you sound so caught up with this . it happens based on where you grew up(usually). it is a fact. there is a nigerian girl i know in uni (igbo) she does not feel an affinity with being igbo. she even changed her name (i found out when her parent came to visit her in uni) and she only talks to white friends. it happens! that is life!!!_{sorry, that was the only example of a nigerian here that i know}

Goodluck Jonathan Changed his tribal name to an English name and he is IN nigeria so ur point is?

Ileke-IdI:
hehehe, then you really do not know your brothers. . . . I guess we just keep [i]Yorubanilizing [/i]y'all
alj harem, imma have to steal your word.

Lie Lie.

jason12345:
she is not lying. i have witness these things myself. i have also seen a yoruba that believes he has more affinity with the hausa.

does he say he is yoruba? is he mixed with yoruba?

Ileke-IdI:
I dont need to lie about that
You have to understand that it depends on where one is brought up

Doesn't matter. A calabar person will never claim they are yoruba especially not if arent mixed with it. lie lie tufia.you think i do not know my brothers.

Ileke-IdI:
No problem. My Calabar friend feels the same
Infact, even non-nigerians understand Yoruba well

Na lie lie. a calabar person will never say they are yoruba. Tufiakwa ssswwwahh!

alj harem:


cow

Now you're talking about your mommy.Not good.

alj harem:
i tiya oooo, this ppl are very swallow minded in discussion

jason, why do u even post with them

they are goats

I aint ur daddy boy,dont call me a goat.

jason12345:
i have not bothered to ask my parents that question i will do when i see them. right now, i am in uni.

You are not Itsekiri or delta state, you would have known that if you were.smh.

jason12345:
that is why i always say i feel affinity to the sw (yoruba) than the ss. i am like ibb or bukola . i cannot prove my itsekiri origins more than this

where in delta are you from?

jason12345:
first of all, it would not be called betrayal since the ""sw"" was the first benefactor of zoning. infact, it would be hypocritical of the south west not to support zoning. that is why they remain neutral and ould vote for ACN since that has guaranteed their development._{i think but i don't also know the politics in the sw. i simply have an idea of the overall regional politics} .

secondly,[b] i would not be happy if the SW supports the north. the reason is that, the south is closer to us than the north[/b]. i would not like the jihad to be imposed on the sw. with that said, i would like the ss to be the bridge between the igbos and yorubas and every one should know their levels

By the bolded I hope you know that you have just admitted another time that you are not itsekiri that you are really Yoruba .smh. But by your comment i think the igbos would get a distaste response from you.

igbobuigbo:
Thanks; I wanted to be sure you know this. So why would an Edo person not claim ND?

The same reason an Imo and Abia man don't.

igbobuigbo:
What states make up ND?

Bayelsa
Delta
Edo
Rivers
Ondo
Imo
Abia
Akwa Ibom
Cross Rivers

alj harem:
sorry MR JONATHAN when did edo become ss, i think u are dreaming big time

edo is known to be mid-west or even sw, not ss

ask any edo person u met and ask if they are ss, and hear there answer

it is just like saying abuja is not north because they are close to kogi.

Every edo that that i know and speak politics know and say lound that they are from the ss; however, they don't claim ND.

jason12345:
I HOPE SO!

Hypothetically speaking, if the ss and se all vote GEJ and the sw vote for ACN which causes the north to win. Will u be pissed of at the sw for betraying the south and spoiling our chance, etc.?

jason12345:
i think they know that the sw (including ondo and edo) would only vote for their own (ACN) and the SS would vote for GJ so they need atleast ONE geopolitical zone in the south to win the election those are my thought 

All of the SW aint ACN so why not them? Edo citizens would vote GEJ.They do not play politics like the SW.The SE citizens mind is already set on GEJ. We are all uniting because of this guy alone.It would be foolish to think offering us a 2nd ranked position would appeal to the masses and on top of that, they would to bring people like Uzo Orji Kalu and Ken Nnamani.Lol

jason12345:
i think you were right! what is the north scared of anyway? why don't they want unity between the ss and se? are they scared of the south? the reason i am ask is that i am also starting to see a trend . just wanted to let you know my thoughts.

You have to look at it this way, they've never one a presidency without a coup, with more southerners in the FG they are not able to rig in one of their candidates like they did yaradua by "70% vote". They know that they do not have the population, if they did they wouldn't be scrabbling for SE votes. But why SE though?

[size=18pt]Igbo leaders reaffirm support for Jonathan[/size]

Monday, 22 November 2010 00:00 From Niyi Bello (Akure) and Lawrence Njoku (Enugu) News - National



IGBO political and religious leaders from the five South-East states rose from a meeting in Enugu yesterday with a resolve to work for the realisation of President Goodluck Jonathan’s presidential ambition in the 2011.

They also restated the commitment to rotation of power among the geo-political zones of the country.
Meanwhile, the success of Nigeria’s development efforts in the coming years has been hinged on the country’s capacity to explore its rural communities to achieve optimal benefits from the vast natural and human endowments for socio-economic and political growth.

This was brought to the fore as the Jonathan/Sambo Presidential Campaign Organisation flagged off its activities in the South-West geo-political zone at the weekend with a symbolic unveiling of a giant billboard in the rural community of Ikaram-Akoko in Akoko North-West Council of Ondo State by the Minister of Defence, Adetokunbo Kayode.

The brief ceremony, which was witnessed by members of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) drawn from the zone, as well as traditional and community leaders, in the words of the minister, “signifies the start of the publicity blitz for the campaign to restore the hope for the future of Nigeria”.

At the town hall meeting held at Nike Lake Resort Hotel, Enugu, under the chairmanship of former Chief Judge of Enugu State, Justice Eze Ozobu (rtd), the Igbo leaders also demanded that power be rotated to the South-East in 2015 in line with equity and fairness.

Ndigbo also asked for the immediate designation of power to accommodate zones that have not tested Presidency before now and for such power to be returned to zones that have tested it in the past thereafter.

At the meeting that last over four hours were Chief Mbazulike Amaechi, Chief Ojo Maduekwe, Prof. Anya O. Anya, Senator Ebenezer Ikeyina, Chief Nnia Nwodo, Chief Onyema Ugochukwu, Chief Tony Ukasanya, Chief Anayo Onwuegbu, Mrs. Sally Egbogu and Chief Frank Oramulu.
Others were Senator Emma Anosike, Chief Ugochukwu Agballa, Dr. Joe Nwaorgu, Prof. Donatus Onu, Prof. Sam Ukpabi, Chief Chuka Odom, Greg Mbadiwe and Dr. Perry Iloegbunam, among others.

In a statement issued at the end of the meeting and signed by Ikeyina and Maduekwe, the participants further endorsed the process of consultation by the apex Igbo socio-cultural organisation, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, on the unfolding contest for power in the 2011 polls.
In declaring their unflinching support for President Jonathan’s presidential bid, they however, demanded that power should rotate to the South-East in 2015 on the basis of the existing geo-political zones and not on the pre-1914 North-South divide.

“We believe that rotation of power should be conducted on the basis of existing geo-political zones and not on the pre-1914 North-South divide. Furthermore, the principle of rotation of power should be binding on all political parties as a reflection of the unique history, needs and imperatives of the Nigerian federation.

“Henceforth, rotation of power should be designed to immediately accommodate the zone that has not exercised the power of the Presidency and then, it should next continue to those that have exercised such powers for the least period of time in the past”, the statement said.
“It is instructive that besides the imperatives of justice and our desire to foster a more cordial relationship with our brothers in the South-South and other zones of the country, a principal reason for the support pledged to President Goodluck Jonathan is the public testimony of the governors of the South-East that they have enjoyed unparalleled collaborative goodwill in search for solutions to the many concerns of the zone from the president, in the short period that he has been in office”, they added.

The minister, in his address, said the choice of the sleepy Ikaram-Akoko community for the unveiling of the 61st billboard, most of which have already been erected across strategic positions in the South-West, showed that “in the Jonathan/Sambo presidency, rural Nigeria will play a very important role in the development of this country”.

According to Kayode, who hails from the community, “Ikaram bears one striking similarity to President Jonathan’s homestead in Bayelsa State. Both communities are part of rural Nigeria, which constitutes 70 per cent of where most of us, Nigerians come from.

“Goodluck Jonathan grew up in a rural community where daily survival was tough and eking out a living in the fishing community for his parents and siblings was due to a combination of luck, hard work, persistence and God’s providence”.


http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29997:igbo-leaders-reaffirm-support-for-jonathan&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

[size=18pt]Suspected Boko Haram gunmen kill three in Borno mosque[/size]

Monday, 22 November 2010 00:00 From Njadvara Musa, Maiduguri News - National



TWO suspected Boko Haram gunmen shot and killed three people at the Maiduguri Gomari Mosque during Juma’at prayers last Friday.
Stray bullets from the assailants also injured with a 12-year-old who was waiting for his father to pray at the mosque.

The gunmen, who operated on two motorcycles, opened fire on the worshippers with a rifle barely 10 minutes into the prayers.
The startled faithful, including the mosque’s imam, took to their heels in the melee created by the shooting.

Confirming the incident, Borno State Police Spokesman, Lawan Abdullahi, said: “Yes, the suspected Boko Haram armed men have attacked and killed two Muslims at the Gomari Jumat Mosque today (Friday) about 10 minutes into the Friday prayers.
He said the injured child has been rushed to the University Maiduguri Teaching Hospital (UMTH) for treatment.

The two dead Muslims, Abdullahi explained, were shot on the chest and necks.
However, the police chief said: “Our manhunt has yielded results, barely three hours after the killings. Two prime suspects were arrested along with 11 other suspects related to today’s attacks and killings in the area. Immediately we received the distress calls from the mosque on the attacks and killings, the deputy Commissioner of Police, Operations and a team of policemen were drafted to Gomari to cordon off the area to arrest the gunmen who fled on a motorcycle”.

Abdullahi added: “These attacks and killings are taking a different dimension, as the suspects operate in broad daylight, targeting and killing policemen, soldiers and innocent citizens”.
He pledged that the police would clampdown on the Boko Haram sect members who are terrorising the state.


http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29979:suspected-boko-haram-gunmen-kill-three-in-borno-mosque&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

ndu_chucks:
Don't be surprised if candidates like IBB or Buhari wins your very ward, with the help of Ojukwu.

Sorry, it's GEJ all the way.hmmm, that kinda rhymes, i think it will be my new slogan. "It's G-E-J all the way"

So out of all people, Ciroma has the guts to come to the Ikemba, a warlord, after all of his threats? Lol. The northerners are really desperate You've got to be kidding me.

ndu_chucks:
If you believe my initial post can divide an already divided south, then I have overestimated the soundness of your judgement.  There is division between ethnic groups, all over the south, from the south west to the south south, so your point is not sensible, with due respect.  Truth be told, it is the presence of Northerners in Nigeria that has prevented southerners from annihilating themselves because of senseless regional conflicts.


One cannot accuse you of being a nationalist. Rakumin Dajij

Lool we in the SS and SE are voting GEJ and that's that.

[size=18pt]NPLF set to woo Ojukwu, Ekwueme, settles for S’East VP[/size]

By PETER ANOSIKE

Monday, November 22, 2010



In order to win Igbo PDP delegates votes at the presidential primaries, the Mallam Adamu Ciroma-led Northern Political Leaders Forum (NPLF), is set to woo the Ikemba of Nnewi, Dim Emeka Ojukwu and former Vice president, Dr Alex Ekwueme into its fold.

The group believes the duo would help them by using their influence to mobilise delegates from the zone and also whittle down the influence of the governors from the region, who had already thrown their weight behind President Goodluck Jonathan.

The forum has also decided to pick a vice president from one of the Igbo-speaking states to run with the consensus candidate if they win the primaries. Daily Sun reliably gathered that the choice of vice president from Igbo-speaking states was crucial to the NPLF strategy for securing the support of delegates from South-east at the PDP primaries.

How the vice president would emerge is not yet clear but Daily Sun gathered that some of the people being touted for the plum job include: former Senate President and a Babangida supporter, Senator Ken Nnamani; former Abia State Governor, Dr. Orji Uzor Kalu, and Senator Ben Obi, a strong Aliyu Gusau loyalist, who was political adviser to the former National Security Adviser and presently the Director-General of the Gusau Campaign Organisation.
Senator Obi was also Atiku Abubakar’s running mate in the 2007 presidential election on the platform of the Action Congress (AC), now known as Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN).

The choice is expected to run with former Vice President, Atiku Abubakar, who is said to be set to emerge as the consensus candidate. Daily Sun had, last week Thursday, reported that Alhaji Atiku Abubakar was ahead of the other three candidates but that the choice of Atiku had caused disagreements among the other contestants and since then efforts were being made to pacify the other candidates and also, take another look at the choice of Atiku before a name is finally announced. This, according to Daily Sun’s findings, is what has been delaying the announcement of the consensus candidate.

Daily Sun gathered that following the disagreements, which had continued to delay the announcement of the NPLF choice as its consensus candidate, the Ciroma group and the other candidates had been holding series of consultations on how to share political offices amongst all the interests in order to placate various political interests, including those of Babangida, Gusau and Saraki, to ensure that the arrangement did not die.
Though the power sharing talks were still ongoing, a source privy to the high-level horse-trading who opted to remain anonymous told Daily Sun that Dr. Bukola Saraki had been sorted and has accepted to become Atiku’s Chief of Staff (COS).

The source also said the Kwara State governor had also been allotted some slots in the Federal Executive Council.
However, Saraki had denied ever accepting to be the Chief of Staff to any of the candidates.

According to him, he could not be chief of staff to anybody.
However, he said he would accept the decision of the NPLF when it formally makes its choice public hopefully sometime this week after one last meeting with the contenders, scheduled to be held yesterday. Daily Sun also gathered from the source that Generals Ibrahim and General Aliyu Gusau have been jointly allotted the privilege of selecting the vice presidential nominee for an Atiku ticket. Since the former military president and the former NSA are jointly second in the NLPF choice.

Talks between the NPLF, Babangida and Gusau, the source said, had continued, given that the duo were said to be very unhappy with the manner in which the consensus arrangement was being handled. Gusau, Daily Sun gathered, is still of the opinion that he is the most qualified for the office amongst all the contestants.

Babangida and Gusau, the source said, had yet agree to agree on who to nominate for the slot but Daily Sun gathered that efforts were being made to ensure that Gusau is comfortable with the consensus deal before any further moves. It is for this reason that Babangida might be pressured to favour Gusau’s choice for Vice President, a candidate whom Atiku would have no objections working with and someone who would definitely be from the South-east zone.

Some of those in the committee include former PDP National Chairman Audi Ogbeh, former Senate President, Iyorchia Ayu, and former Inspector-General of Police, Alhaji M.D Yusuf.


http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/nov/22/national-22-11-2010-009.htm

jason12345:
na wa oo!

i have always tried to speak as a neutral. i apologise if it sounded anti-igbo. but do you know that to succeed in something, you have to look at the pro and cons?. anyway, i apologise if i sounded that way.

I am a strong supporter od pros and cons but a lot of you comments tend to sound anti-igbo. I'm neutral i don't go anti- any tribe but i do go anti- unfairness and anti-unjust.

jason12345:
is it  . have i not said i would support an igbo man 2015. how am i anti-igbo

You actions speak louder that words. You always try to talk about everything that "will" or "most likely" happen to stop Igbo from becoming presidency and then when and Igbo speaks of different ways those negatives will be handled than you say some more nonsense leaving one to believe you don't want it to happen.Because you don't. Any discussion that deals with Igbo you have to be anti and later try to cover it up by pushing some nonsense like "they are our brothers' or "we love the igbo ". Cut it out and be real.