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Christianity Etc › Re: What Christians Did For Muslims In Kaduna State by clefstone(m): 4:04pm On Jan 23, 2016
bashsani:
I will simply direct u to check zakir naik lecture on reasons why jesus was not crucified.even in our modern society there is a way each evil is checked and that is how islam checks on adultery and u shud only those that re married and fornicating
Now, let me ask you a personal question, if u catch a woman in the act of adultery, would u wish she be stoned to death as prescribed by the quran or that she be forgiven and allowed to repent as prescribed by Jesus
Christianity Etc › Re: What Christians Did For Muslims In Kaduna State by clefstone(m): 9:57am On Jan 23, 2016
bashsani:
the authur of the Quran is God himself which he revealed to Muhammad through Angel Gabriel so the story of jesus was revealed to Him. The story with the biblical version is almost the same i.e the miraculous birth, heals the blind resurrect the death all with permission of God the only difference is that jesus in Quran was a prophet just like Muhammad and not God
but the quran says Jesus wasn't crucified. That someone was made to look like Jesus and was crucified in his place. Isn't that like a story from a kindergarten book. Also, in the bible, Jesus saved a woman caught in adultery who was about to be stoned to death, he said; let he that is without sin be the first one to cast a stone. However, Muhammed in the quran teaches the opposite, he says adulterers should be stoned to death. How are they now the same?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Christians Did For Muslims In Kaduna State by clefstone(m): 9:42am On Jan 23, 2016
Eronmosele:
Your comment is very mature. I like it. When some other muslims comment, you just know that if they were in the same room as you they would have beheaded you by now! However if you know how many Muslim converts to Christianity I know and the alarming rate these conversions are happening all over the world, you will not seal your fate the way you have just done. I don't blame you, that's the only way you have ever known. And unfortunately you are shielded from ever thinking deeply about some of these core issues. It's the same way you would have been passionate about Christianity had you been born in a Christian family. Don't seal your fate.
fvcking wise statement. You r good
Celebrities › Re: Florence Esu Dumps Bright Echefu After His Arrest By EFCC by clefstone(m): 10:56am On Jan 22, 2016
I always see beauty queens as empty brains with little to offer society. This one just proved me right
Christianity Etc › Re: One Statement Made In Church That I Dislike by clefstone(op): 5:32pm On Jan 18, 2016
Mjshexy:
Yea it may be a good thing but the permanent passing away of a soul is always a painful loss for family & loved ones & this is d reason why people weep & mourn, u don't xpect them to start dancing & laughing wen a soul passes on. I pray u don't loose a close family member & see hw painful it is. So sir it is an unfortunate demise which we all cannot question but must just accept as d will if the Creator, I hope u re clear now
I agree with u that it is very painful to lose a loved one. Infact, it's the most painful occurrence one can think of. However, when a loved one dies in righteousness, it's not the dead that suffers but those left behind that must suffer the separation. Why then would your Church tag the dead as 'unfortunate'. The truth is, anyone that believes in heaven will view the dead believers as 'very fortunate' indeed
Christianity Etc › Re: One Statement Made In Church That I Dislike by clefstone(op): 10:58am On Jan 18, 2016
Mjshexy:
Living faith church kubwa abuja.
What they say is let's thank God for giving us the privilege to see a new day, month or year because many who were more worthy & righteous than us are unfortunately no longer here with us. Maybe it's ur pastor making the wrong speech, it's not all prayers u say Amen to sha
''unfortunately no longer here with us''. Now, doesn't your bible tell u that it's a good thing when a righteous person dies? How is it now unfortunate. That very statement already expresses disbelief in the afterlife
Christianity Etc › Re: One Statement Made In Church That I Dislike by clefstone(op): 10:33am On Jan 18, 2016
folksync:
"Are we really better than the dead?"

I bet no one living can answer that question.

Most Christians however assume they are better than the dead. And instead of simply thanking God for their lives, they must mock the dead while thanking God.
it's insensitive and annoying to me. Imagine how someone who lost a love one recently will feel in the audience
Christianity Etc › Re: One Statement Made In Church That I Dislike by clefstone(op): 7:13pm On Jan 17, 2016
AwesomeDuru:
90% of Christians don't understand what they pray about..Their prayers are merely repetitive, often consisting of things they have crammed over the years..
I agree with u. But our pastors/reverends should pray in tune with the teachings of Christ
Christianity Etc › Re: One Statement Made In Church That I Dislike by clefstone(op): 7:11pm On Jan 17, 2016
Mjshexy:
Sorry they don't make such statement in my church shocked
and what church is that?
Politics › Re: EFCC Seals Mega Building At Wuse 2, Abuja (pictures) by clefstone(m): 2:24pm On Jan 17, 2016
Vivalavida99:
undecided
are u a coldplay fan?
Christianity Etc › One Statement Made In Church That I Dislike by clefstone(op): 2:17pm On Jan 17, 2016
There is this common statement made in Church or during prayer meetings I feel uncomfortable with. It usually goes like this; ''let us thank God because some people that were here last year are not alive today''. My problem with this statement is that it assumes that we are more fortunate than all those that are dead. But as christians are we not supposed to see the faithfuls departed as the more fortunate ones since they have reunited with God. Are we really better than the dead?
Romance › Re: She Slept With My Best Buddy And Expects Me To End Friendship With Him. by clefstone(m): 4:09pm On Jan 13, 2016
Ok
Islam › Re: Why Muhammad Could Not Do Miracles by clefstone(m): 5:47pm On Jan 11, 2016
manmacho:
"you make the word of God of no effect because of your tradition" - ask the saduccess and pharisee

Gal. 1:8
My friend, what is the 'word of God'? Was there no word of God before the bible. Read your bible very well and you will find out that Jesus never commissioned the bible, rather, he commissioned the apostles and gave them authority. The authority of the bible arises from apostolic authority. Therefore, as much as the bible has authority, it doesn't have sole authority as the 'word of God'. The traditions of the Church is apostolic since it has been followed by the Apostles and/or their successors. For example, the so called 'white wedding' isn't biblical, it's the Church's tradition.
Islam › Re: Why Muhammad Could Not Do Miracles by clefstone(m): 9:18am On Jan 11, 2016
parisbookaddict:
Only a brainwashed muslim will believe a man(mohammed) who raped war captives, killed Jews and non muslims, had sex with A minor of 9 yearS , sold slaves and captured slaves and who claimed in the quran that he can't perform miracles; is a prophet.

I guess that standards for prophethood in Islam is pretty LOW.
as much as I admire ur grasp of issues you contribute to, islam in particular, I would luv to know what motivates you. Are u a victim of islamic extremism?
Islam › Re: Why Muhammad Could Not Do Miracles by clefstone(m): 8:47am On Jan 11, 2016
parisbookaddict:
Before we continue the discussion I want to let u know that I regularly criticize some catholic doctrine. I have my bible as my go to authority and I try to get the churches standpoint on key social issues, theology etc

I do know the church has a very high regard for Mary which protestants object to. Early Christians also had a very high regard for Mary. Many Christians don't know this, even some scriptures (not included in the bible) says she was born without original sin.

I don't know much about Our lady of Fatma. What does it have to do with the conversation.

When u say pray islamically, what exactly do u mean.

Islamic pray involves several up and down movements including grasping the ears and thighs and reciting pagan verses.

I haven't seen the pope do that.

By the way how is Christian pray, is it by putting ur hands together, or raised up apart or dancing in joy, or quite in meditation.. Because catholics do all that depending on circumstance.
which one did u see the pope do ?
as a Catholic, the Bible alone should not be your only 'go to authority' but also the Church's tradition and teachings of the magisterium
Crime › Re: Angry Youths Attack SHOPRITE WARRI (Pictures) by clefstone(m): 4:15pm On Jan 08, 2016
Opukelala:
I am surprise that people in Nigeria don't know the differences in name of cities, pls guys shoprite is not in Warri but Uvwie local govt of Delta state even journalist do same mistake. It is time people know the difference.
the name of Warri had been highly destroyed by the adjoining local govt. areas and cities, this is a case of such.
Most notorious issues about Warri you heard are not commit in Warri but adjoining local govt areas, pls let us be specific.
well, Warri and Effurun are two different LGAs but one city because there is no clear demarcation. A visitor to either places will not be able to differentiate between them even if they have lived there for a year. The popular Enerhen junction which was made popular by comedians in d 90s is not even in Warri LGA but in uvwie.
Celebrities › Re: Ebube Nwagbo Hangsout With John Dumelo by clefstone(m): 3:44pm On Jan 08, 2016
Who is she?
Christianity Etc › Re: Disagree If U Want But ISIS Does Not Represent Muslims. by clefstone(m): 8:29am On Jan 03, 2016
parisbookaddict:
Jeremiah 4:22

The Lord says, “My people are stupid; they don't know me. They are like foolish children; they have no understanding. They are experts at doing what is evil, but failures at doing what is good.”

A revelation to Jeremiah when the jews disobeyed God... what does that have to do with ur discussion with
gimakon


By the way gimakon u dont have to trade words with rilwanye001. . He is very rude and its okay for muslims to insult , lie to and fight non muslims according to islamic teachings.. if u are a christian then u should know better than reply his insult.. cheers

Cheers..
you know a lot about islam and I admire u But how did u learn thiese things Did u live in d north?
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by clefstone(m): 7:28am On Jan 03, 2016
Lagos na overcrowded pond
Politics › Re: Emir Sanusi With Daughter Shaheeda On Her Wedding Today by clefstone(m): 7:26am On Jan 02, 2016
Sirnokiopee:
Lovely dress by sanusi.... Upholding the African culture...

We all can't be white man Slave
that attire is middle eastern, not African
Business › Re: Crowd At First Bank Ikorodu Branch This Morning (photos) by clefstone(m): 2:54pm On Dec 30, 2015
This happens in the north all the time
Northerners can sit on the floor sha
Politics › Re: "7 Nigerians Stole N3.3Trillion" - Aisha Buhari by clefstone(m): 7:18pm On Dec 23, 2015
OZAOEKPE:
THIS AISHAT Buhari WOULD BLAME JONATHAN FOR HER HUSBAND'S INABILITY TO PENETRATE HER WELLhuhhuhhuhhuh??
MY BRO, WE DONT NEED TO KILL OURSELVES OVER THIS PEOPLE(PDP AND APC), THE MONEY SHE USED TO FEED ALL THIS E-CRIMINALS WOULD FEED THOUSANDS IN THE IDP CAMP.
'epic-est' comment ever
TV/Movies › Re: Channels TV Wins Best TV Station For The 10th Time, Nigerians React On Twitter by clefstone(m): 3:38pm On Dec 23, 2015
Again? Boring
Politics › Re: Olakunle Taiwo: 'How ‘sagay’ Interview Ruined My Honeymoon' by clefstone(m): 3:29pm On Dec 23, 2015
The story seems true if u consider that he can't be so stupid to carry out an act he knew would surely backfire
Celebrities › Re: D'banj Finally Speaks On Olamide Stealing His Musical Ideas by clefstone(m): 9:08am On Dec 17, 2015
The line go sweet pass from Olamide mouth anyway
Nairaland General › Re: See This Hilarious Signboard Seen In Warri by clefstone(m): 6:22pm On Dec 15, 2015
The money used to make that sign board will clear off any refuse dumped there
Nairaland General › Re: See This Hilarious Signboard Seen In Warri by clefstone(m): 6:19pm On Dec 15, 2015
Ha
Sports › Re: Victor Osimhen Off To England To Seal Deal by clefstone(m): 1:06pm On Dec 15, 2015
Another family liberated from poverty
Romance › Re: You Are To Blame: Ladies! by clefstone(m): 8:13am On Dec 15, 2015
We have been hearing all this preaching for so long







Some things will never change
-tupac
Politics › Re: Popular Female Blogger Recieved N240 Million From ‪#‎Dasukigate‬ ? SEE by clefstone(m): 7:47am On Dec 15, 2015
charix:
The same type you put in for your paymasters, only she sees 500x more profit.
classic
Politics › Re: Toyin Saraki At 'Fifty' Film Premiere (Photo) by clefstone(m): 10:01am On Dec 14, 2015
Vivianblog na seun babe?

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