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nduchucks:
Thanks for the clarification which also indicates that the OP believes in the existence of the said Abrahamic God. If the OP does not believe in the existence of the said God, then the question posed is senseless.

nduchucks:
In my humble opinion, attempting to answer this question to the satisfaction of most people is an exercise in futility.

To do justice to this question we must first agree to the answer to this question:

1)Who/what is God

To some people god is a graven image, to others it is money and power, for others god does not exist, for others, God is the Almighty and most merciful Father who created heaven and earth.

If anyone is truly interested in the answer to this question, please provide your definition of god, and I will provide a quick answer to the OP's question based on that.

For those who do not believe in the existence of God, the answer is trivial, since the question becomes invalid.

I dey wait for una definition.

3rdlegxxx:
how did this comment even get 7 likes?? shows how intelligent most average Nigerians are, someone asked a reasonable question, a normal human should be curious about things he doesn't understand and you are replying his question with a even more silly question, like seriously what do u guys get taught in polytechnics and universities? i wonder because most people can't even ask intelligent questions where as a 14 year European, British, Canadian or American would normally just ask, here u ask, they putyou down for asking, it's so easy to brain wash Africans, now i believe that saying.

God2man:
You called yourself atheist because you don't have the problem that will make you to cry to God for help.

A day is coming and that day is here when the only thing that you will need to do is to pray to God for help.

Mark my words.

Hoseaovo:
Is God a man? How can you compare the all-knowing for the abilities and capabilities of a man? Besides, can I die for my own son? Even if I can (and I dont ever see it happening), will I be happy if I look down from the great beyond and see him still shamelessly continuing in the same crime that I used my life to pay for? Will I be happy if I know that I gave him the best moral advice, examplified it with my life and paid for all his crime with my blood? No mortal can accept that here or in the hereafter (if the consciousness is there).

Lets put it straight: God's love is higher that all men's love put together. In like manner, God's anger, fury and indignation is higher than that of all men put together. Brother you had better run for cover, now, while you can

ireneony:
The black death:Plague is an infectious disease caused by bacteria called Yersinia pestis. These bacteria are found mainly in rodents, particularly rats, and in the fleas that feed on them. Other animals and humans usually contract the bacteria from rodent or flea bites.

Prior to then; there were no pesticide/insectide to contain rodents then.
Do you like the sound/sight of rodent in your environment? The answer is simply no. It's left for you, to always keep your surroundings clean.
Then, human were not concious of their environment.
Thank God we've passed that.

Get it!

naijadeyhia:
He is a firebrand born again believer today and his cancer also miraculously disappeared. I know about all this because I was there live as I was always the one driving him to and fro for chemotherapy.

lilyqueen:
These diseases affecting man are signs of End time

Fynestboi:
Lol.

Contradiction.

How can one believe God created bacteria and still go ahead to affirm the non-existent of such God. Like seriously.

I believe one can only disagree on the supposed God's attributes on this, and not the existence.

Hence if that's where the argument is pointing at, then I have to .

ireneony:
you need to understand the world is evolving.
The more earth becomes modernized the higher the problem. It is left for us to put more effort in finding solutions to all these threat to mankind.

This was the reason why i stated earlier that man given the power and dominion over thing on earth is to contain whatever problems that have arise or will arise.

There are good bacteria and deadly ones, just like there are good and bad people.

List of some good bacteria that helps man's body
Lactobacillus
Bifidobacterium
Streptococcus
Bacillus Coagulans
Escherichia Coli
E.t.c

Bad bacteria
Clostridia
Streptococci
Staphylococci
Legionella
E.tc.

Get it!

Childhood leukemia, the most common type of cancer in children and teens, is a cancer of the white blood cells. Abnormal white blood cells form in the bone marrow. They quickly travel through the bloodstream and crowd out healthy cells. This increases the body's chances of infection and other problems.

ireneony:
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]hiv,herpes,cancer,e.tc
All caused by the activities of man and destruction of its environment.

Why is there global warning?
All these are caused by man.
Look here mr man i'm a chemist and i know how man contributed to the unpleasant activities of the environment(enviromental chemistry)

Lung cancer is brought about by smoking.
Did God put ciggaret in man's mouth.
Or the did God say we should do drugs? But there are alot of deranged people in rehab.

When you talk abt skin cancer...you cannot exclude bleaching/tanning there go together. This is also cause by the practice of man.

For everything that has been created there is good and evil, it is now left for you to take the right path.

Quote me again...i will be here to show you links

ireneony:
why do you have hatred toward God.
You can hate on any religion. .
Pls do not hate on God almighty.

Most diseases are man made.

For God has given man the power and dominion.
Talking about power; which knowledge and wisdom (how man apply knowledge)

When man misuse his power circumstances are bound to occur.

This is the reason why we have scientists (knowledge God has given us) to tackle these problems.

You don't expect God to come down from heaven to get things fixed.
He has given man the dominion to rule over everything, it's now left for man to make use of it (brain)

Have you ever heard of the phrase "we treat but God heal"

I believe in God and i rely on science.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

I find this sort of question irritating- were you never taught basic Biology?

There are millions of species of Bacteria, whereas only a minute proportion of them can cause disease.

Bacteria process Organic Chemicals for use by other organisms. It is possible that Bacteria have functions we have not discovered yet. Without Bacteria to create Humus, soil would be useless as sand.

There are important Bacteria that protect our soft and moist tissues from intrusive organisms.

ALL DISEASE IS CAUSED BY SIN.

RIGHTEOUSNESS creates a shield against invasion by organisms that can cause problems. HOLINESS intensifies this protection to the point where organisms are driven out of other persons as well as oneself.

. EXODUS 15:22-26.

22. So Moses brought Israel from the Red sea,
and they went out into the wilderness of Shur;
and they went three days in the wilderness,
and found no water.
23. And when they came to Marah, they could
not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were
bitter: therefore the name of it was called
Marah.
24. And the people murmured against Moses, saying,
"What shall we drink?"
And he cried unto The LORD; and the LORD shewed him a tree, which when he had cast
into the waters, the waters were made sweet: there He made for them a Statute and an Ordinance, and there He proved them,
25. And Said,
"If thou wilt diligently
hearken to
The Voice of
The LORD thy God,
and wilt do that
which is Right in His Sight,
and wilt give ear
to His Commandments,
and keep all His Statutes,
I will put none of these Diseases upon thee,
which I have brought
upon the Egyptians:
for I am the LORD
that Healeth thee."

DISEASE from Bacteria is only a problem to Sinners. Questioning God's Wisdom in creating Bacteria betrays ignorance.

Fynestboi:
God created every living thing. Why did he create bacteria?


Really?

So it is God that created airplane? It is God that created atomic bomb?

God created all things never implies, all what we have on earth today, we're created by him.

Most of what we have today are the handwork of things he created.

More like A gave birth to B and B gave birth to C
Will it be Logically wrong to suppose A created C?

felixomor:
All information filled with "suggests" and "possibly" "maybe".
That says it all.
You dont use such information and base facts on it.
Coz they are unverified, even from the writer, he makes it clear that they are theories.
Bcoz NDEs vary in types and durations.
Please go and check the duration of time it takes for brain death to occur in brain cells after loss of blood supply and oxygen.
That alone will debunk all these.

Seun:
Changed title to "Why Did God Create Disease-Causing Bacteria?"

We hear series of bad news everyday: Manslaugther, kidnaps (leading to death), mob actions (jungle justice), bombing and shooting all over the world, accidents of varying degrees..

Lucario007:
The Bible is naturally sexist. It always has. It always will be. Yet, women don't see this and will choose to desperately follow and cling to a book which makes them nothing more than second hand characters and baby makers.

malvisguy212:
we are talking about peace, we are talking about TRUTH AND LIFE. Satan can give you peace so that you wouldn't run to God for help.

naijadeyhia:
And I told you that all of science has declared the evolution theory as INCONCLUSIVE yet you claim to have broken the code so I asked and still ask you to show us how you arrived at a CONCLUSIVE theory when those far more knowledgeable than you have said it is yet INCONCLUSIVE? Spit it out and stop dodging.

hopefulLandlord:
Umm... I'd say only atheists can have meaningful moral opinions. "Because god said it is a sin" is not a meaningful opinion. Religion takes the meaning out of morality. When religious people are thoughtfully moral, it is usually in spite of their religious belief, not because of it.
Arguing that something is wrong because it is a "sin," as David Foster Wallace once wrote in a different context, is like arguing that murder is wrong because it is against the law. It's a circular, deeply superficial and content-free argument. You merely substitute one word for another ("sin" for "wrong".

To the extent that the religious go beyond "god said it is a sin" they are actually appealing to fundamentally atheist moral arguments. For example, "because it causes pain to others" is actually an atheist argument, not a religious one. When religious people use it in some form ("god said it is a sin, because it causes pain" they are bolstering the weakness

The only way religious people can make their arguments deeper without using atheist reasoning is to appeal to the afterlife and some sort of calculus of beyond life reward and punishment. In my opinion this is actually a lousy way to deepen the argument (even ignoring the fact that there is no reason to believe it to be true) because it places notions of wrong and morality into an extrinsic motivation framework. You should not kill or rape because even if you get away, you'll be punished with eternal hellfire? Really? That's the best you can come up with? You should be kind to the unfortunate because you'll get booze and women in heaven? Really? That's "meaningful" morality? It's the reverse. It empties behavior of even its natural moral meaning. Even without reading deep ethics tomes, a small child will be kind to a crying friend. Putting religion in that child's head is equivalent to taking that natural unreasoning empathy out.

How do you actually make the argument deeper (for instance by asking, "why is causing pain wrong?"? You have to go where no truly religious people will go. To subjects like evolution.

For instance, we can understand "pain" through evolutionary notions of empathy, cooperation and reciprocal trust and get to a point in the analysis where we don't even need the word "wrong." Only within a Darwinian framework can we even talk about what the existence of rape among dolphins implies for the corresponding human behavior, because we understand at some level that our model has to cover both cases (since there is no artificial distinction elevating man above animals for atheists).

This allows atheists to analyze and apply the "don't cause pain" in much deeper ways than religious people. For example the religious usually make humans out to be special and don't usually care much for animal pain. In fact, one religious guy I know argued, "but God put the animals on the earth for us to eat!" What do you get as a result? Factory farming. A military-industrial complex of horrendous pain-creation justified by some notion of humans having dominion over animals by divine sanction. Yes, I assign a significant proportion of the blame for things like factory farming to religious notions of morality.

The religious are also less likely to understand and apply practical notions of deterrent pain and more likely to cause more pain than necessary. The religious might believe in some notion of divine symbolism and symmetry (an eye for an eye, or cutting off the hand of a thief, or stoning an adulterer or pretending that killing in war and capital punishment are somehow different from murder) in their pain calculus.

Edelweiss44:
When I say it that anybody who has said he is an atheist is CERTAINLY NOT A SMART PERSON, some people will think I'm trying to be derogatory, but I'm not! I'm only stating the obvious fact! If a human being kills another human being, it CANNOT in any way be treated in like manner to God killing a human being. Human beings were not created by human beings. Human beings were created by God. A human being killing a human being is wrong because we humans did not and cannot create life, therefore we have no right to destroy it. God created AND OWNS LIFE, SO IF HE SO DECIDES TO DESTROY WHAT HE CREATED, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! LIFE BELONGS TO GOD, SO HE CAN CHOOSE TO GIVE OR WITHDRAW IT FROM ANYBODY AS HE PLEASES! If you want to contest the above stated fact, then maybe you should first go and create your own planet and create life in them, then you can come back to query God for killing what He created.

God chose to create man and give life to man as a resource for man to use in serving God on this planet, but when God saw that some people He created had deliberately chosen to misuse the resource of life freely given to them, and instead of using it to serve God the creator, they decided to use the same God-given life to serve and worship idols and inanimate objects as their god, at that time, God Himself decided to destroy those lives because they had abused the purpose for which life was given and turned their back on God their creator. It is not wickedness as you and other atheists have falsely insinuated for somebody to destroy what he solely created if he feels what he has created is not living up to its purpose! That is why you can buy a toothbrush and use it for a couple of months only to throw it away someday after you notice it's no longer effective for brushing your teeth. You threw the brush away because it solely belonged to you! God chose to destroy any life He destroyed because ALL LIFE ALSO BELONG TO HIM ALONE AND HE CAN DO AS HE PLEASES WITH THEM!

The only reason why God has not destroyed you and other atheists who have been insulting Him just like he asked Israel to destroy some idol-worshipping nations in the bible is just because He is trying to be merciful and give you more and more time to repent and be saved. It is only God's love and mercy that has kept you from being destroyed despite all insults you give to God, but the sad part of the matter is that God's patience is very long but not infinite, and one day you may run out of His patience and face Him in judgement. That one day certainly comes when you die and you have to go back to the same God to give an account of what you did with your life on earth.

jayriginal:
Ok stop here.

This thread is sickening. We've had a biologist with a self professed PhD deny evolution. He offered some pretty inane arguments but at least he seemed to know a bit more than you guys.

I've never seen such a thread were ignorance has been so celebrated. You say you want to believe but you've been informed on this thread that evolution is not a belief.

As someone posited earlier, it is intellectually downgrading for anyone to reply your queries.

You and the OP are the ones who don't know, and don't know that they don't know.

Nobody who can spell the word evolution asks why there aren't ants with human heads or why there are still apes today. Before you critique something understand it first.