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Christianity EtcRe: To My Theists And Atheists Peepz, Y'all Need To See This! by cloudgoddess(f): 12:58pm On Jul 06, 2016
Also here is a continuation of the second search result. A more fleshed out description of what atheism means and where the confusion about the word comes from:
Christianity EtcRe: To My Theists And Atheists Peepz, Y'all Need To See This! by cloudgoddess(f): 12:52pm On Jul 06, 2016
timonski:
An Atheist is one believes that there is no god. Check any dictionary
The first two google searches that came up:

Christianity EtcRe: Limitations Of Science by cloudgoddess(f):
joyandfaith:
the fact is science has its limitation. acceptable scientific knowlege today becomes archaic tomorrow.

Bible is unchanging and can be relied upon.
The Bible is unchanging because it's a piece of dogma(*), which tells it's followers nonacceptance will send them to eternal torture in hell. That's the only reason it's lasted so long, through fear, ignorance and indoctrination (forcing children to believe from birth before they can even think for themselves - essentially brainwashing).

Science continues to change because we continue to learn more about how our universe works as time goes on and discoveries are made. The knowledge we have rests on the shoulders of prior discoveries. If science was not constantly refining itself we'd still be living in the f*cking dark ages with people dying at age 30 from common diseases that we can now easily cure, thinking a demon is cursing them with influenza.

This constantly progressing scientific method is the only reason we even have this computer and Internet to discuss on, talk less of automobiles, modern medicine, efficient agriculture, and basically everything that makes our lives so much more convenient enjoyable and LONGER than they were in 300 BC.

Science works. It's fruits are all around us. Belittling it to defend your unfounded & outdated faith is not only totally illogical, but very much biting the hand that feeds you.

*Dogma refers to any ideology that claims it is irrefutably true even despite evidence to the contrary. There are literally thousands of different religious dogmas, the bible is NOT alone nor is it the first (Hindu Vedas, Jewish Torah, Buddhist Dharma, Shinto scripts, to name a few), it just happens to be the one that YOU were raised with/exposed to. And before white colonists conquered Africa and brainwashed us with their sh*t, we had our own traditional beliefs as well.
Christianity EtcRe: To My Theists And Atheists Peepz, Y'all Need To See This! by cloudgoddess(f): 7:25am On Jul 06, 2016
felixomor:
Agnotists are still better than aethists.
They are sincere enough to be open minded.
Many who are even agnotists think they are aethists,
And they dont know they are agnotists.
Or rather, you don't know the correct meaning of atheist or agnostic.

Atheism is a lack of belief in gods. Agnosticism is position which says that whether a god exists or not, can not be known for certain by human beings. A person can be both, and most atheists actually are both. I too am an agnostic atheist.

Even Richard Dawkins, one of the most active atheist speakers, puts himself at a 6 on a scale of 7, 7 being absolutely sure there is no god, and a 1 being absolutely sure there is. Both 1 and 7 are positions of Gnosticism - which no truly openminded person could take, and yet most theists do ("The existence of God is known, and I believe it exists" = gnostic theism).

I hope that helps clarify. The terms confused me too before I learned what they really meant.
Christianity EtcRe: Don't be deceived. Nigeria is rich - Adeboye by cloudgoddess(f): 7:55pm On Jul 05, 2016
Opium of the masses.
Christianity EtcRe: Limitations Of Science by cloudgoddess(f): 4:30pm On Jul 04, 2016
So when assertions are made about the potential of science to provide an explanation of everything that exists, it is only reasonable to take such assertions with reservations.
No real scientist claims he has an explanation for everything that exists. What scientists do say is that without good evidence to support it, there is no valid reason to hold extraordinary claims as true. Like Gods who talk to human beings and made us out of clay.

There remains a vast store of knowledge that is beyond human perception and understanding.
Absolutely. But that doesn't mean you get to fill in the blank with anything that makes you feel good and then parade it as truth.

It does not logically follow that because science still has more to discover, we should dismiss it's findings in exchange for books written by extremely ignorant cave-dwellers from 2,000 years ago, who literally did not even know as much about the world around us as a modern 3rd grader.

"I don't know" is a perfectly valid answer when there is something we don't yet know. It's the intellectually honest answer, at least. We can fill in those blanks later as we do more research. For now it makes sense to keep asking questions and learning as much as we can. Settling for answers that are far less substantiated than the ones we have now frankly doesn't make sense.

While science offers knowledge of the natural world, the Bible provides principles and guidance that lead to peaceful human relations and a happy, satisfying way of life.
This is a statement borne of ignorance. Psychology and neuroscience both explore these issues empirically, and have birthed some very enlightening answers. From my years of studying both, I have learned:
- What factors contribute most to long term happiness (relationships, making progress towards tangible goals, being present in life -- not vast amounts of money or possessions like many people think)
- How we are conditioned by our environment and the effects that conditioning has on our behavior, thoughts, and feelings
- How our inner thoughts shape our experience of reality and why perspective is important
- How to cultivate focus, mental clarity, and compassion towards the self and others via empirically proven meditation practices
- What biases human beings are prone to and how to avoid making poor decisions because of them (ironically many of these contribute to religious thinking: bias towards authority, emotional biases, confirmation bias, group-think)

And regardless of what science says about any of these topics, there are thousands of texts, both religious and secular, that include directions on better living. Buddhist scripts, dating older than 500 years prior to the founding of Christianity, include beautiful instructions on how to avoid needless suffering for oneself and others, detach from egoistic desires, and live with more gratitude. The bible is not unique when it comes to guiding principles, and in many areas it is lacking (with contradictions abound. "Do not murder" on one page, and "strike infants against rocks" on another).

Also, the bible's few bits of wisdom do not validate the other things in it that are not sensible. The Hindu Vedas say we should savor every moment of life and make the most of our days. This is a valuable and true life tip. But does that now mean that Krishna and Vishnu are real and created the earth from their bosoms?
Christianity EtcRe: A Nairalander's Message To Atheist Wannabes And Young Christains. by cloudgoddess(f): 9:19pm On Jul 03, 2016
If one claims that a book is God-inspired then the contents of it should be factually accurate. It doesn't just "explain things in a less sophisticated way", the bible is simply wrong in most of it's claims about nature. As in 2 + 2 = 7 wrong. There are things written in the bible that directly contradict the laws of physics and chemistry.

And if you can admit that the writers of the bible were ignorant in their understanding of nature, then what reason is there to assume they were not just as ignorant in their understanding of God(s), his existence or lack thereof, and the qualities he allegedly possesses?
Christianity EtcRe: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by cloudgoddess(f): 9:01pm On Jul 03, 2016
plaetton:
I beg to differ sir.

Biologically and psychologically, religion and faith emanate from the most primitive part of our brains,..the part where our basest and most primordial instincts reside.
This is where selfish, fearful beast resides.
It defines reality in extremely narrow, self-centered terms.

This is no wonder that religion , superstition, oppression, violence and war go hand in hand.

In my own life, far too many times I have seen decent people become narrow minded, hateful, fearful, superstitious and selfish , the deeper they go into religion and faith.
Wow. This post is so profound, I couldn't agree more.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Supposed "Christians" Hypocrites? by cloudgoddess(f): 4:23pm On Jul 03, 2016
Zoharariel:
It is simply because christianity was built on hypocrisy & mind-boggling lies.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Masturbation A Sin ? (prove It) by cloudgoddess(f): 4:09pm On Jul 03, 2016
UltimateDaniel:
To be sincere, how do you feel immediately you finish masturbating? Read Open Heavens Devotional @ www.openheavensdaily.org

Masturbation is a Sin brother!
Take it or leave it...
orunto27:
When you feel ill by its practice, God is judging you and Satan is punishing you.
Any feelings of shame after masturbation are caused by childhood brainwashing & conditioning to feel ashamed of the act. Period.

As taboo as it is to mention (because of this widespread brainwashing), many young children actually masturbate, of course without using pornography or fantasizing sexually. It's just another natural, pleasant sensation to them. It's only when the zealous religious mother or father comes along, slaps their hand, and tells them they are going to hell if they do that again, that the shame begins to set in. And this shame is of course reinforced by years of continuous preaching against "lust" and "desires of the flesh". It's very damaging to one's psychological and sexual health actually.
Christianity EtcRe: The Bigotry Of Atheism by cloudgoddess(f): 3:44pm On Jul 03, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
and the most amazing part is that both Muslims and Christians would join hands to frustrate your life for being atheist
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for instance, most Muslims had no problem with me being a Christian (while I was a Christian) but suddenly started having issues with me being a "free agent"
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shouldn't they like me more as a "free agent" than as a Christian?
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logically speaking they should but they don't
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they don't care which god I choose, they just want me to chose one, anyone
I've noticed this too. But psychologically it makes sense when you consider things like herd mentality & confirmation bias.

In addition to their particular faiths, Muslims and Christians are also biased towards a specific mode of thinking: an unquestioning, religious mindset. This mindset is fond of supernatural explanations, and is inclined to accept things as true out of fear of authority (God, Imam, Pastor, whatever), emotional reasoning, etc.

It's this shared mindset that they're truly defending more than anything else, moreso even than the specific details of their religion. Think of two categorical circles, a small one within a larger one. The larger circle is "religious thought" and the inner circle is "thought specific to my particular religion". Both Muslims and Christians are protective of both.

To put it in other words, they're much more threatened by the mere act of free thought than they are of contrary religious thought. That's where all the anger & defensiveness comes from. Atheists are outside of both circles, so we're much more deviant and unfamiliar in their eyes. A common enemy.

They can't imagine turning a critical eye on religious thinking themselves (out of fear), so they villify anyone bold enough (or in their eyes, crazy/sinful/arrogant enough) to do it. It's similar to how many slaves showed scorn towards the few fellow slaves who tried to fight for freedom. They were going against the paradigm and thus worthy of scorn. It's all based in fear and primitive thinking patterns.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Christians Praise God For Misfortunes Of Others? by cloudgoddess(f): 3:04pm On Jul 03, 2016
Strawman:
OP it's a common human practice oh, I dunno what the fuss is about. I once told an atheist in school that a wicked lecturer deducted marks from some students, he said "Good thing I was not among!". The only difference is that some Christians would say "Thank God I was not among!"
I think the difference is that the atheist will openly acknowledge that his fortune was indeed a matter of pure luck. That it could've been him in the unfortunate situation, and it was merely chance that made it otherwise.

But when one introduces God into the picture, it very much implies that they were intentionally favored in a way that an atheist would probably never claim to be. Suggesting that somehow, the supposed creator of the universe chose to prioritize their lives or happiness over that of others.

I think the non-God perpective makes room for (but of course, does not necessarily guarantee) a more humble sense of gratitude, as well as compassion on the part of those who were not so fortunate. Whereas the "God did this for ME" perspective is more likely to breed self-centeredness and disconcern for the misfortune of others.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am On The Verge Of Giving Up by cloudgoddess(f): 9:25am On Jul 03, 2016
Scholar8200:
But were these or any other used against ANY living being before the fall? Why is it that the Bible talks of a time when Lions will eat grass and not flesh? Obviously, God designed that all animals will eat the producers - plants alone
Wow. Christian logic is truly baffling at times. Alarming even.

I don't know whether to give a lesson on basic ecology or just save my breath. F*ck it, this just has to be said. I'll try to make it quick.

Lions never ate grass. Their dentition is a dead giveaway - long, sharp canines are for tearing flesh. Anatomically they are simply not shaped to chew down plant matter (compare a cow or zebra's teeth & bite to a lion's and you will see the functional dissimilarity).

Also, not only are their digestive systems unfit to break down cellulose (it would literally cause vomiting and constipation), but their carnivorous role is critical for maintaining the population balance of their herbivorous prey. Without carnivores, prey would quickly reproduce to excess, leading to food shortage and ultimately destruction of the ecosystem.

The bible is a book of myths and falsehoods written by extremely ignorant, primitive men. Whatever claims it makes regarding nature are very likely to be false. Value yourself and learn about the real world. You're wasting mental energy defending made up junk that makes absolutely no sense.
Christianity EtcRe: Who are the real Fools, Christianity Is Just One Of MANY Beautiful Ladies by cloudgoddess(f): 12:52am On Jul 03, 2016
donnffd:
When you see a certain atheist bash a certain religion constantly, its not because that religion is the so-called right one or special one, its just because that was the religion he was deluded with and obviously knows much if not all about it.

Most atheist here break out from Christianity, its only logical they wud attack christianity(fyi, not christians). If you found an atheist in iraq, i bet you he would attack islam 98% of the time.

Please, stop deluding yourself that your faith is any special
Absolutely.

I follow a few ex-Muslim atheists on YouTube and guess what religion they criticize 99% of the time? ISLAM. It doesn't take a genius to understand this. It's obvious that Image is just grasping for straws.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Masturbation A Sin ? (prove It) by cloudgoddess(f): 11:47pm On Jul 02, 2016
ifenes:
According to Christian belief sin consists in loving something that God hates, or in hating something that God loves.

We can therefore say the Christian god is pure love, yet is hateful at times? The same god impregnated Mary without her consent,i wonder how many nights he did it for before eventually impregnating her? And that is what I call RAPE. Better to masturbate than rape.

I think it's silly when religion tries to pervert something that is totally natural. Basically what they're saying is being a human is a sin.
I mean, what better way to control people than to make them feel ashamed about their own biology (creating a "problem" ), and then offer the "solution" -- mental slavery to all-seeing dictator?

It's the perfect scheme, any primitive man would've fallen for it.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Are Taking Advantage Of Ignorance In Christianity To Be Athiests by cloudgoddess(f): 1:58pm On Jul 02, 2016
paxonel:
But since the Bible says he exist, then the Bible should come with evidence and that evidence are the miracles of the Bible we read.
Now, this miracles continues today in our present life and we have seen and experience them that's why we believe
That doesn't count as evidence... None of the supernatural claims in the bible have ever been independently & objectively verified. It's why Noah's ark and the resurrection aren't in history books.

Evidence requires unbiased, often systematic verification from multiple sources. The bible was written by secondhand accounts of people who weren't even alive at the time of said events. That is probably the weakest type of "evidence" possible.

And what are these modern day miracles you speak of? Improbable healing & recovery, going from poverty to a stable career, finally having children after multiple attempts -- these kinds of events are often labeled miracles by Christians but they can happen to anyone, even atheists, with just as much frequency. There is no reason to believe that it's the Christian God causing them to happen. It's more reasonable to think that unlikely good things just happen in life sometimes. Just like unlikely bad things happen to everyone as well.

A TRUE modern day miracle would be something like God arranging the stars in the Big Dipper to say "I am God!" or like onetrack suggested, a person's limb growing back spontaneously.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pastors Push Somebody While Praying For The Person by cloudgoddess(f): 1:43pm On Jul 02, 2016
noblemails:
what do they stand to benefit when the person falls down?
They want to create the illusion of supernatural interference.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Create The Tree Of Good and evil If He Didn't Want Man To Sin by cloudgoddess(f): 1:40pm On Jul 02, 2016
Chinexbagar:
That is why some things are mystery,but when you live your life and die and see god you should ask him the question
This is assuming that a God that talks to people exists (which still hasn't been proven), and that we will be conscious after death (which also hasn't been proven).

It would seem, then, that waiting till death to ask these questions could very well be waiting for nothing.

Perhaps it would be more wise to use this life to ask as many important questions as we can, since an afterlife of tea parties with Jesus appears highly unlikely.
Christianity EtcRe: Dear Christians,do Not Be Scared Of Atheism by cloudgoddess(f): 4:23am On Jul 02, 2016
Love this. 100 likes.
Christianity EtcRe: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by cloudgoddess(f): 3:37am On Jul 02, 2016
For whatever reason I expected this to be a smart thread but nope, just more fallacious claims sad
Christianity EtcRe: All Atheists, Why Did You Become An Atheist? by cloudgoddess(f): 5:46am On Jul 01, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Your posts are always 'sweet' to read.
Thank you so much! I am flattered smiley
Christianity EtcRe: All Atheists, Why Did You Become An Atheist? by cloudgoddess(f):
It was difficult for me to make this post because so many things have happened along my "journey to atheism" that I could write a book on it. I'll try to focus on the most important points to keep this from being too long.

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Before my teenage years, I never questioned Christianity. I was very convinced that it was all real and true (as any indoctrinated & blissfully ignorant child would be), despite not having read much of the bible or knowing anything about other religions, history, or science. I had nightmares about hell or demons on a few occassions, which made me terrified of eternal damnation. I don't think I ever desired heaven nearly as much as I feared hell -- and I think that might be the case for many Christians/religious people. Subconscious fear is a stronger motivator than most of us imagine.

A memorable catalyst for deeper investigation of my religion was around age 13 when, in the car on the way home from church one day, I opened my bible to a random page and started reading. Prior to that moment, as I mentioned above, I hadn't read very much of the bible outside of the verses chosen by pastor during service. I landed on the story of Lot's daughters.

To recap, the story basically describes in excrutiating detail, two young women getting their father drunk, and then impregnating themselves by sleeping with him. While reading it (remember, I'm 13 years old, and my father is in the front seat lipsrsealed) I felt such an overwhelming sense of disgust and horror. I wondered why this story was never mentioned in church, why children would be directed to read a book that contains this kind of weird sh*t, and what other questionable things might be in the bible.

I started reading more bible stories. I read about the genocides God carrys out in the bible, the slavery he permits and even poses regulations for ("It's all good if you whip them as long as they don't die wink" ), the rape he allows, the unequal treatment of women he dictates. After some amount of sincere reading, my skepticism became too uncomfortable to ignore. I took to the internet for answers, and inevitably stumbled upon websites that eloquently, boldly, and coherently stated the same criticisms I was secretly thinking while reading the bible, but too afraid to share with anyone ("Why was god so cruel even though he claims to be loving? How can a God that's supposedly all-knowing, punish people with such fierceness and anger as if he didn't see it coming?" )

Of course, I became obsessed. As the months went on I started to spend more and more time on websites that pointed out the flaws in Christianity. I stumbled upon youtube videos by atheists, science videos explaining evolution, and videos questioning the validity of biblical ressurection/Noah's ark/etc. Soon I realized that I could not honestly call myself a Christian anymore. I hadn't yet ruled out the idea of a God completely, but the bible's flaws were too glaring at this point for me to still hold Yahweh in my mind as true. Of course, I kept this all to myself and continued to go to church with my family. A teenager in a highly religious Nigerian household doesn't have much of a choice.

Equipped with this new knowledge however, I started to notice more flaws, contradictions, and moral issues with what we were being taught in my youth group & during sermons. When I asked questions, the answers I recieved were very insufficient and unconvincing. Many times they just seemed like bad excuses that only a small child would fall for.

It also became more obvious to me that prayer was ineffective. The "God's time" explanation that I had accepted so readily before, now appeared to be a clear cop-out -- If God is going to do everything on his time anyway, what's the point of praying? I also noticed that a lot of effort was put into making it "feel real". During prayer time everyone would be made to hold hands, and the most emotionally moving tracks would be played very loudly. I started to ask myself, if something was truly happening when we prayed, why did we need all of this emotional manipulation? Why couldn't God just talk to people casually and directly, without a need for all the extra noise?

As I continued to be an avid internet user, and my interests in science grew (biology and psychology in particular), I couldn't help but stumble upon more and more reasons to reject Christianity, and Abrahamic religions as a whole. Due to fear and denial, I didn't admit to myself that I was indeed an atheist until perhaps two years ago. I am now in my 20's.

I can honestly say that my life without religion is much better. I don't have to lie to myself, keeping contradictory ideas in my head out of fear (cognitive dissonance is REAL). I don't have to adhere to ridiculous and outdated views. I can think for myself, and freely explore science without defending myself against everything I discover ("But but but, the bible says...!" ). I mean there's just so much inner freedom now.

Nairaland has helped me be much more comfortable, and even proud of, my atheism. It feels great to know that there are other brilliant & brave Nigerian thinkers out there, even if most of us are in hiding (for now). I have no doubts that in the near future more and more people will be leaving religion behind, in part, if not mostly, due to enlightenment via the internet.
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cc BeastAmbition
urahara
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Christianity EtcRe: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by cloudgoddess(f): 6:00am On Jun 29, 2016
oweniwe:
That is why religion "is there ". smiley

If there were no religion, believe me, everybody would be dwad by now.

Religion is meant to curb and check the excess of man... When employed d right way, it creates orderly societies .... And it can wipe out societies too if misused.

So religion itself is not bad. Its how people apply it.

Kudos sir
It bothers me that people still buy into this completely false idea that religion is the maintainer of human ethics & morality. Perhaps in the 2nd century when it was the best civilization had in terms of law. But not in the 21st century.

There is actually a trend between religiosity and HIGHER crime and poverty rates. Countries that have higher proportions of religious people (like most African and Middle Eastern countries) have more crime and corruption, while countries with higher secular majorities (like Australia, Japan and Netherlands) are safer, more educated, and more peaceful.

Ask yourself, how do the 80% of China's population who identify as atheist or non-religious, keep from robbing and assaulting eachother in the absence of dogma? How do they live so harmoniously without churches on every street corner?
Christianity EtcRe: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by cloudgoddess(f): 1:22pm On Jun 28, 2016
HardMirror:
THE ARK!
HOW BIG WAS IT?
Could it take 20 million animals of which only about 2 million where insects?

The dimensions of the ark can be found in Genesis 6: 14-15

It wAs 300cubits long = 450ft

50 cubits wide = 75 ft

And 30 cubits high = 45 ft

Floor space is gotten by multiplying LENGTH X Width
= 450 X 75 = 33,750 sq foot of space

Wait a minute!

There was even more space than that! The ark was divided into 3 levels. This will increase floor space
So that is 33,750sq ft X 3 = 101,250 sq foot of space. For animals to stand.

Please how will 20Million animals stand within this small space?

That is 0.005sq ft to each animal!

Ok ok let me help God a little, the insects can hang on the walls all through the trip
So what is the area of the walls?

Side walls will be length X height =450 x 45
= 20,250 sq ft
There will be 2 sides so that is 20,250 X 2

= 40,500 sq ft


Then we have the front and back walls
Which is Width X Height = 75 X 45
3,375 sq ft

Times 2 (for front and back)

3,375 X 2 = 6,750sq foot

So let use see the surface area we can make use of in total
That is

101,250 + 40,500 + 6,750 = 148,500 sq foot of surface area including the walls for the insects to hang on

Ohhhhhhh no!

Noah must have used the roofs too!
Ok the area of each roof was 33,750 and there were 3 roofs
So that is another 101,250 sq ft extra!


HURRAY!!! We are getting more space!


So total area we can use including the 3 floors, 4 walls, and 3 roofs (ignoring the thickness of the timber Noah used and how much space the timber used for bracing the ark must have taken)
We have TOTAL SPACE of 249,750 sq ft

This space divided by 20 million occupants

Each animal gets 0.013 sq ft of space



HOW SMALL IS THIS?

This is a mere 3.9 mm by 3.9 mm! For each animal even after using all the space in the ark including the walls and roof!

That space is even too small for a common house fly.

So the ark was more packed than a can of sardines!
I laughed, HARD grin

This is a great thread, keep it up!
Christianity EtcRe: Youths, Nigerians, Please Stop Spending Your Lifetime In Church/mosque by cloudgoddess(f): 1:22pm On Jun 28, 2016
Very important message. Thanks OP.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Create Dangerous Animals And Pest by cloudgoddess(f): 11:55am On Jun 28, 2016
seafarers:
What are we becoming next?.. ...a giant I guess
That isn't how evolution works. The cartoonish depictions of it that creationists are taught is an embarassing display of ignorance on the subject (and/or desperation to defend religious texts, even if it means intellectual dishonesty).

Refer to the following youtube video by my favorite German science educators at Kurzgesagt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOfRN0KihOU

My thread here:
https://www.nairaland.com/2914888/much-needed-explanation-evolution

and Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Please, for the betterment of mankind educate yourself.

edit: After posting this I noticed the humor in me criticizing cartoonish depictions of evolution, and then posting a literal cartoon depiction of evolution grin
Christianity EtcRe: The 6 Raunchiest, Most Depraved Sex Acts (from The Bible) by cloudgoddess(f): 11:39am On Jun 28, 2016
Reading the story of Lot's daughters as a young teen literally sparked my atheism. Lmao. I was too disgusted.

(Btw I've been intermittently working on my story in Joshuabase's thread for the past few days and was deciding whether or not to include that. Seeing this I think I will cheesy )
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are We So Wicked And Sinful In Nigeria In Spite Of Our Deep Religiosity? by cloudgoddess(f): 10:05am On Jun 28, 2016
Because contrary to what religious people like to argue, religion does not make people better, not long-term at least. Religion tries to regulate behavior via external motivators - like the promise of heaven, or various "blessings".

But social psychology shows that true good will comes from an intrinsic desire to be good. To relate to other human beings in a caring way for no reason other than wanting to live in harmony & show kindness. If a person does not have this (many Nigerians do not), then religion, if it has any effect at all, will only temporarily motivate good deeds & behavior.
Christianity EtcRe: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by cloudgoddess(f): 9:48am On Jun 28, 2016
I can't decide whether to laugh or just be sad, has Nigerias education really become this poor undecided

Compass directions are arbitrary human labels determined by earth's magnetic field to help us navigate our planet. There is no north, south, east, and west in outer space.
Christianity EtcRe: Why You Should Ignore Atheists by cloudgoddess(f): 3:20pm On Jun 26, 2016
Hiswordxray:
Atheism is darkness, Jesus is the light. You can not win darkness by wrestling against it, you only win darkness by bringing in the light. 2 Corinthians 3:18 reveals that we bring in the light by focusing on Jesus until we are transform into Christ the light and then this light would drive away the darkness. The way to abolish atheism is focusing on Christ.
You do realize that religious people become atheist after investigating their faith & realizing it's invalid, right? It doesn't take that much effort to become an atheist if you care about what's actually true, not just what you hope to be true. We atheists are simply people who stopped letting comforting religious delusions blind us to reality & facts.

Regardless of how deeply you personally choose to remain steeped in your religious brainwashing, there will still be Christians (and Muslims, and even Jews, like Mark Zuckerburg creator of Facebook & humanitarian) learning about the world outside of their indoctrination & waking up to the foolishness of religion. The only thing anyone could possibly do to stop it is block off access to educational resources like the Internet. Unless you can do that, don't count on atheism being "abolished" any time soon. In fact, like onetrack said, you can probably count on seeing more and more of us.
Christianity EtcRe: Am I Destined To Sin As God Already Knows What I Will Do Next? by cloudgoddess(f): 3:04pm On Jun 26, 2016
Kennedyiheme:
top countries use skill and knowledge they've aquire over the years.....mm they produce fighter jets, drones, cars, choppers... they learnt these things.......all these things addso up and build their economy, all Africans know how to do is pray and pray, argue senseless about religion....... religion is a waste of time and brweds laziness, makes young people dull...... African countries are top 7 most religious countries in the world of which nigeria is among...... we are worse and we don't have electricity.... if you don't see an irony in this then you and 90percent of people in this forum need serious help..... since 1909 prayers and religion hasn't done anything for africa.....breeders alone had over 1000 parishes in Nigeria, funny, no single research institute, nigeria police don't even have a forensic science department.... Africa is trouble, nigeria is in bigger trouble
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did The Curse Of Adam And Eve Affect Most Of The Other Animals? by cloudgoddess(f): 11:43am On Jun 26, 2016
I just realized the person I quoted might have been making a joke? Lol forgive me if that was the case.

Still, any Christian is free to answer the points I brought up.

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