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Omofaye99:
Oh! I see your point now. I wasn’t fully following the engagement from the beginning, but I felt compelled to reply what I saw. Thanks for keeping me on track

Absolutely.

See If you let them, they’ll derail you into arguing/defending a point you never even made because they can’t give a straight response to the conversation at hand. Republican gaslighting 🤣🤣🤣

What kind of rehab do you give a terrorist? Is that another way of saying prison?

raumdeuter:
Even in the so called red states there are millions who vote for Democrats. There are professional protesters and will always protest since their candidate lost

The funny thing is that in one post you’re saying Americans are happy with him and in the next post you’re saying millions of Kamala voters are not happy with him. So those millions are not Americans? You can’t have it both ways.

Sounds like your leaders are panicking too. One thing is certain, as ghoulish as they are, they’re not above pretending to care about the economy when it’s their pockets being hit

SENATE
7 GOP senators sign on to bill to check Trump’s trade authority

BY ALEXANDER BOLTON 04/07/25 12:59 PM ET

Seven Republican senators, including Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the Senate’s president pro tempore, and Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.), the former Senate Republican leader, have signed on to a bipartisan bill that would require Congress to approve President Trump’s steep tariffs on trading partners.

Grassley and McConnell have joined five other Republicans — Sens. Jerry Moran (Kan.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Thom Tillis (N.C.), Todd Young (Ind.) and Susan Collins (Maine) — in supporting the Trade Review Act of 2025.


The legislation would limit Trump’s ability to impose unilateral tariffs without the approval of Congress.

It would require the president to notify Congress of the imposition of new tariffs and increased tariffs within 48 hours and provide an explanation of the reasoning for the action.

It would also require the administration to provide an assessment of the potential impact of imposing or increasing the duty on U.S. businesses and consumers.



More critically, it would require that new tariffs sunset after 60 days unless Congress passes a joint resolution approving them.


And it provides a pathway for Congress to cancel tariffs before the 60-day period expires by passing a joint resolution of disapproval.

Trump has already threatened to veto the bill.

Omofaye99:
You made a good point. I also agree that zero tariffs on every product is unrealistic. While tariffs can play a role in addressing trade imbalances, relying on them as the sole solution is misguided. Like you stated many companies have moved manufacturing to countries like Vietnam and Canada, instead of bringing jobs back to the US. Why is that?

I think the focus should be on finding solutions that address the underlying issues prompting companies to manufacture abroad, Instead of resorting to blanket tariffs, which can harm American consumers and businesses.

The thing is why is he saying zero tariffs on every product as if that’s a legitimate stance that anyone has ever adopted? Let’s not lend credibility to outrageous POVs. Otherwise we’ll be stuck debating things that never happened. You’ll find yourself defending a position you never even adopted to begin with simply because they found a way to work it into the conversation when it wasn’t even part of it to begin with.

basilico:
You just can't have zero tariffs on every product.

No one asked for zero tariffs on every single product. You can’t manufacture an argument that no one is making and then start arguing against that. It makes the rest of the stuff you typed below meaningless. Because literally no one said there should be zero tariffs on every single product USA trades with the rest of world. That’s how you guys make up stories. Tariffs are not new. They are used meaningfully when it benefits the country.

If the tariffs were fair noone would be cursing Trump for enacting tariffs.
Whether China agrees to remove all taxes, America can't do the same because most of the manufacturing is outside of America and in China specifically . When Trump 1.0 introduced tariffs to China ,a lot of their companies moved to Vietnam. Others set up shop in Canada and Mexico where they could manufacture in China,then assemble in Mexico and send them tarif free to your doorstep.
I don't know why you people are bitter when Trump is basically saying. We are their biggest market ,we need to be able to sell to them too.
China ,and I've posted a long story about them. Won't allow you to operate without local partners . Difference.Once they know how your product is made they open a competitor across the street and compete with you .They will change the brand name so slightly ,a lot of buyers won't know . For instance, Samsung competitor becomes Sansung with exactly the same outward appearance. IOW they don't respect IP,they sort of encourage it

This is what Trump is battling. I want a bully who will stand up to China first.
China is the second largest economy yet WTO ranks it as a developing economy, under GATT they attract lower tariffs .

I feel like seasoned Nigerians should be able to see through all these shenanigans and not fall for it. Like what did we go through all that national hardship for if we can’t tell a con man from a mile away? 😭

GloriousGbola:
as a nigerian, it is very funny

people sign MOUs all the time. they do big ceremonies where they shake hands. none of this means anything until the facility is completed.

at every point people are doing feasibility studies to ensure that the facility will actually be profitable

i posted a link the other day about the only phone assembly factory ever built in the us. built by google/motorola. shuttered in one year

as a person who worked in corporate nigeria, i am very very familiar with all this fanfare.

in my old place, they were bragging about building a refinery as far back as 2007. to this day they have not done it - because the numbers dont add up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeu4p9rQx0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hxZX7v4xGk

you can get away with the above in china. even magats will not go for these working and living conditions

or is it bangladesh sweatshops with children?

basilico:
True you can't force nations to buy Teslas or other products, there are commodities that every nation produces and had to protect.

except we are actually forced to stick to Tesla as our first choice of EV because competition from other countries are not allowed in America. If Chinese EV were allowed here, Tesla would be out of business

America can literally produce anything , most @ higher cost but quality is guaranteed.
As long as there is demand, it will only take suppliers a short while to meet it.

can and does are not the same. Again putting the cart before the horse. Do you jump off the bridge without first making sure your landing pad is safely secure to catch your fall?

Isn’t it sensible to make sure you’ve position your landing pad first and then jump?

I fear that’s common sense.

I’m sure Obama would rest if the republicans can keep his name out of their mouths. Obsessed is putting it mildly. He used “fancy” mustard for burger and it made the news. He took his wife on a date and they lost their minds. Too bad you guys couldn’t identify the micro aggressions for what they were. Trump is the conservative answer for who they felt was a n*gger overstepping his boundaries. And that’s why no matter how foul he gets, they’ll never disavow him.

Also Trump doesn’t need anyone to humiliate him. He does it all by himself. If Obama took classified information to his home and stored them in his bathroom where anyone could access them, the world would’ve imploded. But Trump did it and the investigation that followed is what you guys are calling humiliation. I have no words at the level of hypocrisy in the Republican Party.

I’m surprised you can expect Obama to behave like an elder statesman but have no smoke for Trump who acts like a petulant high school kid. Why is the standard higher for Obama?

Trump the leaky mouth who tweets 200 times a day instead of working is who we are somehow going to equate to Obama? There’s no comparison not even in the slightest.

He’s right. If he did a fraction of what Trump has done, he wouldn’t even have smelled the seat let alone continue to have support. It’s a sad state of American society.

descarado:
Trump didn't shut up cos he still want to contest. Also, the last administration humiliated him so much. He has only his voice as that was the only thing they couldn't manipulate.
Obama has finished his tenure, let him go and rest.
Even Joe don rest.He should work hard to influence change of the constitution for presidency so he can contest again.

Remembered when Clinton left office. I heard about Clinton again when he lead the team that rescued an American in north Korea.
That is the work of an ex president. Once in a while, grant interview on national matters as an elderly statesman.
Lowest of the low is acting as a campaign spokesman of Kamala.

If not for Hillary, nobody remembers the Clintons again.

Why would this administration not first ensure that manufacturing is up and running before placing heavy tariffs if he truly means to bring manufacturing back to America? Isn’t that senselessly placing the cart before the horse?

If you're stupid enough to think that you can build automobile plants within 6-12 months there's no point in asking you what you'll do with them when you find out that most of the material you need to build cars still comes from countries that are being heavily tariffed.

descarado:
I read some one comment about Obama and it got me thinking.
No ex president of America has involved himself in present administrations like Obama. He can come and contest for 3rd term since he don't want to leave the stage if that is possible.

Trump was an ex president during all of Biden’s presidency and he never once shut up about the administration. He was also very involved in the Republican Party, deciding the course of the party and the decisions they made. Holding rallies from State to state. Selling merch and spreading hate + propaganda.

How many Obama rallies have we seen since he left office?

The biggest scandal in his time is a tan suit.
Trump has done what criminals in kirikiri can’t even dream of doing and you guys turn a blind eye.

And while we are on the topic of dwindling livelihoods, cratering markets and on the edge of an economic depression, it is now even more important to note that it is not DEI, feminism or trans people causing any of this. Pause for a moment and think about that. How has the agitation for equity across the board caused you to lose your future? It hasn’t. But voting for the people who told you they were the problem is what has landed you here.

This old playbook where they sell you a bogeyman who is supposedly what’s wrong with your society and you get hyper focus to the point of extreme hatefulness that you vote your wellbeing away hoping you can hurt these people is tired and stale. And it will always hurt you the voter same as the ones you think you’re voting against. It will never affect the people selling the bogeyman theory. Time and time again across several centuries this has always been the truth. Y’all just never learn.

Sorry for the people in their 50s and 60s who thought they’d be able to retire in less than a decade. That’s not happening now.

The thing is they only care when it hits their pockets.

It is statically impossible that the millions of people who took to the streets in all states even red states were all democrats.

raumdeuter:
70m people voted against Trump, So how hard will it be to get 500k of them to protest especially when they can be mobilized?

If the election is done again today the margin will even be wider

Tea party people were protesting and drawing crowd every weekend to their protest yet didnt stop Obama from winning his 2nd term

The Republican leader has roiled Wall Street and the global economy with a radical plan announced last week to zero out trade deficits with every other nation by imposing sweeping, indiscriminate import tariffs.

Lawmakers beset by constituents worried about investments and pensions have begun adding their voices to a growing clamor for Congress to reassert its power over the nation's purse strings and rein in the White House.

The seeds of a rebellion sprouted in an unlikely corner as Senator Ted Cruz -- a staunch Trump loyalist -- warned of a jobs crunch and rising inflation that would threaten the Republican hold on Congress.

"If we go into a recession, particularly a bad recession, 2026, in all likelihood politically, would be a bloodbath," he said on his Verdict podcast.

Unlike previous economic convulsions, the current crisis is entirely self-inflicted.

Trump claims he is merely correcting decades of supposed international trade abuses that have harmed the US economy, and boasts of the vast revenues he sees his tariffs generating.

Barring any last-minute reversal, his so-called "reciprocal" tariffs -- broad levies on all imports rather than sector-specific measures -- kick in Wednesday, with retaliatory tariffs from China expected a day later.

'Economic nuclear winter'

The president shrugged off the markets carnage, spending the weekend fundraising and golfing.

IjeBos:
Just so you know I feel terrible laughing.

He actually said 100 million each. So 500 trillion not 5 trillion. It’s already unbelievable at 1 million each but this man legit said 100 million. More money than is available in the world. The insanity

benels:
Na Trump fit this current world.

Imagine for a moment Trump is your father under the same roof

If you’re a girl and he’s your father, you’d be worrying he wants to date you. Those were his own words

No more red hats for his clan then

Ibime:
You ain't no investor nigga. Its easy to commentate from the stands

This is why I love nairaland. Anyone can say anything. And have opinions on everything.

If I want to belong too, I can start googling ssd, RAM etc things I don’t understand and start contributing to a conversation above my comprehension just to hear my own opinions. If you argue with me na you sabi 😭.

This was Trump before the election

“If Harris wins this election, the result will be a Kamala economic crash,” Trump said from the stage at Wolfe Auditorium. “A 1929-style depression. When I win the election, we will immediately begin a brand new Trump economic boom. It will be a boom.”

Now he’s claiming he’s crashing the economy on purpose. If it was a great idea to crash the economy why was he telling people that Kamala was going to crash it?

You guys can keep lying to yourselves and adopting whatever new position they tell you is the right one each day. I think at this point anyone who matters can see the forest for the trees.

No one paid anyone to protest against him. Imagine the logistics of millions of people driving to their protest sites? If organized transportation to ensure safety and ease of movement is what you guys are equating to being paid hundreds of millions of dollars each, no wonder you’re known as the propagandists of our century. Your party guys tell so many lies they don’t even bother to make anything believable anymore because they know you won’t even try to verify.

The sheer number of people in the streets goes against the “Americans are happy” narrative you guys have been spreading here. The number of republican lawmakers being run out of their hometowns in the town hall meetings speaks for itself too.

He’s failing . Massively. And we warned you this would happen. You were wrong. We were right. It’s that simple.

So sad we have to suffer it together. Being right in this case doesn’t do anything for us. And you guys “winning” the election doesn’t do anything for you either.

Everyone loses. Hope the win was worth it for those who voted him and are not losing their livelihoods and retirements.

basilico:
Dems have a well oiled machinery. Thousands of non profits that mobilize.
Obama had his own . Organizing for Action.

Half the country didn't vote for him everyone knows that
The other half has no time for Street protests sponsored or organized by people whose goats are being eaten by Trump.

basilico:
Half of America is dumbed down. If Trump crashes the economy then republicans are the dumb ones
Else democrats shall need reeducation.

From your mouth 🙌🏽

I don’t know why you bother.I don’t take seriously anything you share from right wing propaganda hub.

I have my eyes and I saw millions of Americans in the streets protesting against him. It doesn’t matter whether they were bussed or flown or ferried to the locations, the fact is that they wanted to be there and they made it happen. That’s a testament to the feeling in their hearts about him. What’s difficult to understand about that?

The people you guys get your “facts” from said George soros paid 5 million people $100 million dollars each to protest against Trump and Trump shared it on his social media. That’s more money than what’s available in the whole world. A Simple Google search puts the estimate to be around 80-123 trillion dollars available in the whole world. Maybe he didn’t realize how much money that actually is. Maybe he’ll delete it when someone points it out to him (if he hasn’t already). But it’s sad that is how he gets his “reliable” information and you guys parrot what he says.

If George soros has 500 trillion to pay 5 million people, then he must be God or something to magically make such amount of money appear out of thin air. Even Elon who is currently the richest doesn’t have a trillion dollars. Is this making sense?

If I were you, I’d sit with that information and wonder if those are the kinds of people who I’d want to be listening to. The devil is in the details.

Please I don’t enjoy being harsh to you. Sometimes after I’ve been harsh, I kinda regret it because I don’t know what kind of reality you’re operating from where you easily believe such things and it makes me think you’re extremely impressionable hence I regret the harshness.

But I’d like it if you evaluate the information you absorb a bit more critically. You guys tend to believe the most ludicrous things and it’s hard to respond to that in a way that doesn’t leave you feeling slighted.

basilico:
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1908559749253390421

Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
🚨 HAPPENING TODAY 🚨

An Anti-Trump protest in Washington, D.C., organized by the 50501 Movement, is busing protesters into the city on what they call “high end busses”. According to the protest’s website, alcohol is permitted on board the buses.

The protest is called “The People’s Veto: Hands Off!”

The purpose is to protest
@elonmusk
and
@realDonaldTrump
, and the invite openly calls for the protesters, who organizers are trying to GET DRUNK on the busses, to TAKE TO THE STREETS.

Organizers are using the ride share all RALLY to get these protesters to the Washington Monument today.

Proof the radical left is BUSSING IN PROTESTERS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO CAUSE CHAOS IN WASHINGTON DC.

As I exclusively reported back in February, the 50501 movement traces back to the Democrat’s fundraising platform ACT BLUE, as well as a group called the “political revolution”, which was born out of the
@BernieSanders
campaign.

@LoomerUnleashed
is on the ground in Washington DC today to cover these Bussed in protesters.

Go through the extensive link . Else you will continue wallowing in ignorance and misguided notions.

They’ve always thought we were dumb Americans.

Now we opened our mouths and confirmed it.

IjeBos:
I wonder what foreign leaders think when they read this stuff.
Or even when they saw the formula for "tariff" he used to crash the global economy.
We are very weaker for it.
If Americans can't be trusted to vote intelligently, I'm sure other countries won't rely on us much longer.

Right. And they all got 100 million dollars each. 🤡🤡.

basilico:
Sponsored by George Soros and others.
50501 movement
Indivisible
Many didn't even know what they was protesting about
These are the ones funding leftists to smash up Tesla cars and shops
Buses preloaded with signs.
Lots of Muslims and masked Antifa bused. Masks are camouflage not for stopping the spread.
They were allowed to take alcohol in the buses.

There were some flyers paying $40 an hour to protesters. I'll post it later

These are paid protests. Someone on X has the geo-locations of phone numbers registered via his apps .A lot of these protesters also showed up at most Kamala Harris rallies.

😡The protesters Loomer Unleashed caught on video getting dropped off in BUSSES today were given signs as soon as they got off the busses. The bright red signs say “SOCIALISM BEATS FASCISM”.

Notice there is a heavy ISLAMIC😡 presence at these protests.

RED-GREEN ALLIANCE: Funded by the Democrats.😡


More here. I keep telling you the media is playing a number on you.

https://americafirstreport.com/payroll-driven-theater-anti-trump-and-anti-musk-protesters-are-staged-and-paid-bussed-in-scripted-clocked-out/

The clincher. The protesters left all at once like at the end of a shift.

ItooWorWor:
Real Americans are taking to the streets in protest, not the online delusionists.

Yep. It was really like this in over thousands of cities/towns in America.That’s multiple major cities per state (red and blue) alike.

I wish I could be like his followers . Just be delulu and live in my own reality where truth and facts don’t matter.

On Saturday millions of people across the United States protested against the fascistic policies of the Trump administration and the rule of the oligarchy.

Reflecting the mass anger felt among millions of workers, students and professionals, it appears the turnout was more widespread and larger than predicted by organizers, with over 1,400 demonstrations occurring in the US, including up to 100,000 people descending on Washington D.C. alone.

On Saturday millions of people across the United States protested against the fascistic policies of the Trump administration and the rule of the oligarchy.

Reflecting the mass anger felt among millions of workers, students and professionals, it appears the turnout was more widespread and larger than predicted by organizers, with over 1,400 demonstrations occurring in the US, including up to 100,000 people descending on Washington D.C. alone.

On Saturday millions of people across the United States protested against the fascistic policies of the Trump administration and the rule of the oligarchy.

Reflecting the mass anger felt among millions of workers, students and professionals, it appears the turnout was more widespread and larger than predicted by organizers, with over 1,400 demonstrations occurring in the US, including up to 100,000 people descending on Washington D.C. alone.

Major protests drawing at least 10,000 people took place in New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis, Boston, Denver and Atlanta. Many metropolitan areas saw a half dozen or more protests, each numbering thousands, as in Houston, the Bay Area, St. Louis and south Florida. In cities across Michigan, including Detroit suburbs Ferndale and Dearborn and the state capital, Lansing, several thousand people participated in demonstrations. The main focus was on the largest cities and on state capitals, but hundreds protested in smaller cities, such as Davenport, Iowa—the most since the anti-police violence uprisings following the police murder of George Floyd in the summer of 2020.

International protests denouncing Trump and his accomplice, the fascist billionaire Elon Musk, were also held in Lisbon, Portugal; London, United Kingdom; Berlin and Frankfurt, Germany; and Paris, France.

The protests are part of a growing international movement in the working class against daily assaults on their democratic rights, social conditions and living standards. Millions of people are outraged over attacks on immigrants, federal workers, due process and science, as well as the ongoing genocide in Gaza, Trump’s ushering in of a global trade war and the rule of the oligarchy in general. There is a growing sense among millions that mass action is needed to stop the drive towards dictatorship and global war.

GloriousGbola:
these oligarchs are really messing america up

there is almost a conspiracy of silence on their part

if this was happening anywhere else it would be all over the news cycle

Yep. The media have cowered and kissed the ring. They can’t report on the truth anymore or face Donald’s wrath. He’s doing it to the law firms as well. Anyone who feels unjustly targeted for exercising their freedom of speech will find a hard time getting competent legal representation because the law firms are cowering in fear of retaliation from him. That’s the textbook definition of fascism. That’s the greatness we were told to anticipate.

This isn’t the first all state protest against him btw. All 50 states protested against him last month (not to this degree) but there was statistically significant representation in all states. Major news outlets didn’t carry the story either.

This is his definition of unbiased media. Media that only speak what he wants them to. Like a 16th century king of some sort.

These are the Americans that are supposedly thriving and happy with Trump’s govt according to his supporters in this thread. Like we always said, you guys exist apart from reality.

This is how the red states came out in protest of this administration. The red states !

He’s too egotistical to admit that millions of Americans gathered in thousands of cities to protest his epic failure.

5 million people got 100 million dollars each according to Trump.

This is who’s making financial decisions for you guys. Someone who clearly doesn’t understand the concept of money. Judging by his 6 bankruptcies and stupid comments such as above.

This is your president 😭🥲

Don’t you know most people rather have their devices set to the weather in another country rather than the place they’re currently living in. It’s perfectly sensible to want random weather surprises like unexpected rain storms so they can get soaked instead of being prepared. 🤣🤣

IjeBos:
Yes, you can and we can take a poll of how many people have ever changed it. I'm sure that's near 0 if not 0.
And then for those that have changed it, who has changed it to a place they do not live. That would be near 0 as well.

The levels of mind blowing stupidity you expect people to buy.

🫢🫢

IjeBos:
Yes, because setting your location to a place you nor your family have lived in years makes sense. /sarcasm
Or maybe, your computer, like most computers without gps, got its location from its IP address which is from somewhere where it is 26 Celsius at night in Feb.
Like Port Harcourt.

The levels of lying just to pretend you are in the US.

Hohaiiiode:
in what country? You guys will stay in your shitholes and spewing trash! Someone with very high approval rating, plus both the senate and the house majority controlled by the republicans!
Trump is doing what every sane leader will do! Putting his people and country’s interest above any other

Stop guzzling Republican propaganda